DeLorean Mailing List - 4/4/97
dmcnews-digest Friday, 4 April 1997 Volume 02 : Number 229
In this issue:
Re: Rotor & CAP?
LA Times
Re:Marv's statement
dmc purchasing guide?
key lights, volvo dealer
Trimtech?
ATTENTION thomas mccoy
Re: Common A/C problems
Re: ERM license frame
Jameel
Electric Antenna?
Door Struts
Alternator
HOOD FLAP?
Do you want DeLorean pictures?
Re: SS Cleaner, Volvo dealer
Re: Marv's statement - & kind of an explanation
DMCs in THE NEED FOR SPEED 2
Re: Factory Pictures
Door Struts / Torsion Bar
Re: Trimtech? (and seat covers)
Re: a/c - reply
Re: HOOD FLAP?
Re: ERM license frame
Re: Key blanks
Re: Stainless Cleaner
Re: SS Cleaner, Volvo dealer
Re: Door Struts / Torsion Bar
Re. Door struts
Re: HOOD FLAP?
Another (old) DeLorean article
82 DeLorean for sale
Re: Electric Antenna?
Sagging doors
Re: Sagging doors
Where's DeLorean Motor Company (Houston)?
Re: Sagging Doors
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From: RPET123(AT)aol.com
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 12:02:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Rotor & CAP?
after shopping a lot of sources,the best deal I found on ign.wires was Pep Boys
I think I paid aprox $29.00.
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From: "John W. Herron" Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 11:12:47 -0700
Subject: LA Times
There is a DeLorean for sale in Los Angeles for $7k. I found it in yesterdays
Times. Condition is described as "scruffy." However, it does run.
John
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From: thomas mccoy Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 12:58:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re:Marv's statement
The asking price of a DMC does not necessarily predict reliability. Mine has been
"for sale" for some time at a low price. It is quite reliable, in good condition,
and was my daily driver (can't afford insurance).
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From: incubus(AT)netcom.com (Chrisman)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:06:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: dmc purchasing guide?
On one of the DMC FAQ pages I saw, there was a mention of a 'buyers things to
know/look at' type FAQ being created from the list... I was wondering if anybody
could point me to it..
I currently own a '92 NSX, and think that a Delorean would do a great job of
sharing my daily commute mileage with it...
Okay... okay.. okay.. I admit, one of the main attractions to a DeLorean for me
is the gull-wing-doors which to me are the coolest things I've ever seen! :-)
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From: thomas mccoy Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:26:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: key lights, volvo dealer
Jameel,
In California, there is a store called Brookstone, they have a key-light. I bought
one for my DMC door key. It cost about $5 and is well worth it to avoid scratching
the stainless around the key hole!
Also, good advice from one member here...don't do too much at once. I went wild
restoring my DMC and poured all my savings into it. Its
best to keep some investments "liquid" in case of illness or accident. A DMC is not
easy to sell, say tomorrow, and get 100% gold standard if you need emergency money.
(If you're rich then never mind this advice!)
Friends,
I went through two or three different Volvo key blanks with no luck. Perhaps
someone could post their blank #'s. (not even my local pro
locksmith could match them!)
My local Volvo dealer told me they won't see my DMC under any condition.
WIMPS!!!
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From: thomas mccoy Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 13:33:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Trimtech?
I just remembered!!! A couple months back I drove by a warehouse, and did a
double-take. The sign on the wall said TRIMTECH, which is the company that made
the seats for DMC (if I'm not mistaken). Unfortunately, the people inside had
never heard of the company, and didn't even know the sign was on the wall (???).
P.S. - Is there someone who lives near Ventura that would like to get together in
a couple weeks and cruise DMC-style?
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From: "Brandon S. Moody" Date: Wed, 02 Apr 97 07:49:42 PST
Subject: ATTENTION thomas mccoy
>The asking price of a DMC does not necessarily predict reliability. Mine has
been "for sale" for some time at a low price. It is quite reliable, in good
condition, and was my daily driver (can't afford insurance).
So, what is your asking price. I'm going this weekend with a good friend to pick
up a car for him. If your car is priced right, We might purchase your car. So,
send me some mail FAST ! bsmoody(AT)kih.net
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From: GullWinged(AT)aol.com
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 18:35:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Common A/C problems
>I was just wondering if something particular on the Delorean had a tendecy to
cause a problem in the A/C system. =
Doug:
Most of the main parts of the DeLorean's air conditioner system actually are from
the A/C for a Corvette. You might check Corvette specialty shops, web sites and
mailing lists to see if there are any reports of similar problems in a comparable
age Corvette.
Chase
I'm a Mac-Wizard. --- Sorry, I don't do WinDos ---
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From: Kevin MacDougall Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 21:16:45 -0500
Subject: Re: ERM license frame
What exactly is the ERM process that JZD developed.... Thanks,
Kevin
James Espey Wrote:
>It is my understanding that the ERM license plate frames were added to the cars
as they entered the US at the Quality Assurance Centers (QACS) I bought a new
license plate frame while at KAPAC last October and they had BOXES of them, all
with "Composite Technologies Corporation" mailing label on them. CTC was the
company formed by JZD/DMC to develop the ERM process.
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From: magriese(AT)VNET.IBM.COM
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 97 13:56:28 CST
Subject: Jameel
Jameel - If you haven't already, I would invest in a set of DeLorean manuals -
the shop manual and parts manual are the two most valuable. Keep these books with
the car at all times, I've found that it makes looking for service much easier
when you can show the mechanic some real documentation on the car.
I second James' advice about planning your restoration. Do some triage and figure
out the most important items to tackle first, make a list of the things you need
to do and stick with it.
Most import auto parts stores carry DeLorean parts, they just don't know it. For
things like engine parts, use the Volvo B28F engine as your reference point if
the catalogs you are searching don't explicitly list DeLorean.
Mike Griese
magriese(AT)vnet.ibm.com
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From: Jameel Ahed
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 17:12:13 -0600
Subject: Electric Antenna?
Dear DML,
How are you guys? I hope everybody is in good health. I just ordered some stuff
from PJ Grady...
Spacing Skirt,
Heat Shield
That electrical kit that costs $45
Lower Speedo Cable,
Support Bracket
RT angle Drive
Boot & Plate... (SHIFT)
$422.72 WOW... that is crazy isn't it!!!
Do you guys know of an electric power antena you can add in the back of the car? I
have heard people talking about it, but I don't know what it is and how much it
costs. Can't I just put an antenna amp on the (glass antenna). I hope I didn't
spend way too much on the above items. I want to get more replacement relays. Do
you guys know of any cross refferences for todays relays... Thank you once again!
Have a nice day,
Sincerely,
Jameel
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Jameel Ahed owner of CyberTECH Industries
Consultant for VOITECH Computer Solutions
HOMEPAGE: http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~ahed/
VOITECH: http://www.voitech.com
EMAIL: mailto:ahed(AT)uiuc.edu
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From: "Michael Babb" Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 01:44:09 +0100
Subject: Door Struts
Just wondering how painful a process it is to replace the gas struts on the
doors. (my drivers side door seems to be going a little limp)
thanks in advance
Michael Babb, MCSE
ProSoft I-Net Solutions
Phone 919.460.7604 Nationwide pager 888.753.5315 Alpha Pager (Raleigh, NC) 919.389.2695
Mikebabb(AT)vnet.net michaelba(AT)prosoft.org
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From: Jameel Ahed
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 21:35:07 -0600
Subject: Alternator
Dear DML,
I have the ducilier 80, but I know there is Motorola 90, what about GM... If you
guys have any OEM numbers that would kinda help... I am sorry for all these wierd
questions. But I think we will definitely benefit! Thanx again.
Sincerely,
Jameel Ahed
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Jameel Ahed owner of CyberTECH Industries Consultant
for VOITECH Computer Solutions HOMEPAGE:
http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~ahed/ VOITECH:
http://www.voitech.com
EMAIL: mailto:ahed(AT)uiuc.edu
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From: Jameel Ahed
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 22:10:08 -0600
Subject: HOOD FLAP?
Dear DML,
I have vin#2273. It has a locking gas cap, but there is no flap in my hood. Do you
think somebody wrecked my car way back when and replaced the hood with a flapless
hood? I don't understand. Is it possible somebody just added the optional locking
gas cap? I am sure you guys know the history better than I. I just want to know
what you guys think...
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Jameel
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Jameel Ahed owner of CyberTECH Industries
Consultant for VOITECH Computer Solutions
HOMEPAGE: http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~ahed/
VOITECH: http://www.voitech.com
EMAIL: mailto:ahed(AT)uiuc.edu
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From: "Michael Babb" Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 01:43:05 +0100
Subject: Do you want DeLorean pictures?
Since Uncle Sam was so good to me this year, I am going to go out and buy a
digital camera to celebrate my refund. With this in mind, if anyone wants any
pictures of a DMC (or pictures of partifular parts) please let me know and I would
be glad to e-mail them to you (as soon as the check gets here......whenever that
is). I have no way of nowing if everything on my D is standard, but al least if you
thing that there is something screwey on
yours I can take a pic of mine for you to compare.
Michael Babb, MCSE
ProSoft I-Net Solutions
Phone 919.460.7604 Nationwide pager 888.753.5315 Alpha Pager (Raleigh, NC) 919.389.2695
Mikebabb(AT)vnet.net michaelba(AT)prosoft.org
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From: "Marvin S. Sterling" Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 02:27:47 -0800
Subject: Re: SS Cleaner, Volvo dealer
ausmith(AT)pdx.oneworld.com wrote:
>I found a good cleaner thanks to a friend that owns a restaurant. It's called
"Reflection", made by Paulson and Roles Labs. and is available through restaurant
and janitorial suppliers. Good stuff and two 18oz. cans cost about $8.00.
>I said a Volvo dealer should be able to help with engine related problems in an
emergency. I didn't say anything about "service".
>Chris
- ----------------------------------------- Chris,
Perhaps I shouldn't have used the word service. The Volvo dealer service department
manager basically said " don't bring it here " and I was talking about simple things
like oil changes, filters etc. Maybe things are different outside the NY metro area.
Regards,
Marv
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From: "Marvin S. Sterling" Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 02:36:06 -0800
Subject: Re: Marv's statement - & kind of an explanation
thomas mccoy wrote:
>The asking price of a DMC does not necessarily predict reliability. Mine has been
"for sale" for some time at a low price. It is quite reliable, in good condition,
and was my daily driver (can't afford insurance).
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Tom, I understand that sometimes it is necessary to sell something ( anything) for
compelling reasons .... the purchaser then lucks out and gets a good deal. In
general though the adage is that you get what you pay for. If a person wants a
good looking, good running D they are going to pay for it one way or another.
Those of us in the life insurance field always had a line for a reluctant
purchaser " someone is going to pay for your insurance, you, now by paying
premiums or your family later through deprivation "
No offense meant in my comment,
Regards,
Marv
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From: "Richard T. Haslewood" Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 17:41:14 +1000
Subject: DMCs in THE NEED FOR SPEED 2
G'day folks,
A couple of months ago, my friends and I were discussing how great it would be if
a DeLorean was included in an upcoming sequel to the popular racing game "THE NEED
FOR SPEED". Well I just got an Email from one of my friends and he said that he had
found a site in which you could vote for one of the cars on the list that you'd like
to see included in NFS 2 and on
that list was, you guessed it, A DELOREAN!!! The bad thing is that DeLorean
only had 4 votes next to it out of 200, what's worse is no more votes are being
accepted (what a bummer, huh?).
If we had known about this website sooner, I'm sure we could've boostedthe DeLorean
vote by at least 300 or so? Well, If we don't find the DeLorean in the next NFS I
guess we'll just have to send its maker hate-mail or something, what do you think?
Troy R. Haslewood,
Richmond, NSW
Australia. (that's right, I'm Aussie)
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From: "Michael Babb" Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 01:46:57 +0100
Subject: Re: Factory Pictures
any chance of getting these pictures scanned and posted somewhere so that those of
us who can't make it to Europe can take a look at them?
Michael Babb, MCSE
ProSoft I-Net Solutions
Phone 919.460.7604 Nationwide pager 888.753.5315 Alpha Pager (Raleigh, NC) 919.389.2695
Mikebabb(AT)vnet.net michaelba(AT)prosoft.org
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>From: michael richard pack To: dmcnews-digest(AT)europe.std.com
>Subject: Factory Pictures
>Date: Wednesday, April 02, 1997 1:42 AM
>Hello
>I was approached by a man who was John & Christina DeLoreans Architect. He was
hired to finish their home in Bedminister New Jersey. He told me about some of
his business dealings with John DeLorean, etc, etc, and his privilege to drive a
Delorean as a company car. He wanted
to
>sell me some 8x10 pictures of the factory, car under engineering development at
Lotus, with the designer, and the car in various stages of production. He wanted
$750.00 for the 40 photographs. I almost purchased them
>but when I asked him for the negatives he said that they were confiscated at the
DeLorean Estate in 1982.
>I will be displaying the pictures in Belfast during the Euro Expo.
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From: Jameel Ahed
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 08:06:32 -0600
Subject: Door Struts / Torsion Bar
I don't think these are hard to change. You might just need somebody to hold the
door open for ya. I think adjusting the torsion bars are the hard part. Can one
of you guys walk me through this? Jason B. Scott said that a person named Mr.
Truscott could do it. Well if you are out there Mr. Truscott... I need your help.
:-) Can you walk me through the adjustment of the torsion bars? Thank you so much
Sincerely,
Jameel Ahed
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Jameel Ahed owner of CyberTECH Industries
Consultant for VOITECH Computer Solutions
HOMEPAGE: http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~ahed/
VOITECH: http://www.voitech.com
EMAIL: mailto:ahed(AT)uiuc.edu
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From: James Espey
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 97 07:41:38 -0000
Subject: Re: Trimtech? (and seat covers)
>I just remembered!!! A couple months back I drove by a warehouse, and did a
double-take. The sign on the wall said TRIMTECH, which is the company that made
the seats for DMC (if I'm not mistaken). Unfortunately, the people inside had never
heard of the company, and didn't even know the sign was on the wall (???).
I believe the TrimTech that made the seats for the DeLorean is in the UK.
Speaking of seats, seat covers actually, I recently purchased a set of leather
seat covers from the company that supplies them to some of the DeLorean parts/service
facilities. I was very impressed with their OEM look and feel. The price was quite
reasonable, too. If anyone is interested in knowing more, email me directly.
James "Mikasa" Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com Coming in April - http://www.dmcnews.com/
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From: James Nichols Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 08:45:34 +0000
Subject: Re: a/c - reply
Doug Venner ='83 #15880 wrote:
>"Like I said it blows ice cold for about 5 min. before short cycling and blowing
warm, like maybe the evaporator is freezing up or someing."
Doug, I think you answered you own question, you have ice someplace. If you are
getting good air flow even if it is warm, the evap is not turning into a block of
ice, the problem is internal. If you didn't replace your accum/dryer, you are
probably getting ice in your expansion tube (it is a fixed orifice GM type). Since
it runs cold for five minutes, trash in the screens is not the problem. The
accum/dryer is a standard GM part though not as common as some, it took three days
to get one here in Dallas.
If your evap is turning into a block of ice due to high himidity, you can add
freon and bring your low side pressure up to about 30 to 32 psi which will give
an evap temp of 33 to 36, (above freezing) the temp/press reference is on the guages.
Jim #6884
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From: James Espey
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 97 07:47:04 -0000
Subject: Re: HOOD FLAP?
>I have vin#2273. It has a locking gas cap, but there is no flap in my hood. Do
you think somebody wrecked my car way back when and replaced the hood with a
flapless hood? I don't understand. Is it possible somebody just added the optional
locking gas cap? I am sure you guys know the history better than I. I just want to
know what you guys think...
Without my parts book in front of me, I couldn't tell you the exact build number
that the flaps went away on, but I'm SURE it was after #2273, I'm thinking more
along the lines of #5XXX. I would bet that the hood on your car is not original.
James "Mikasa" Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com Coming in April - http://www.dmcnews.com/
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From: James Espey
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 97 07:47:10 -0000
Subject: Re: ERM license frame
>What exactly is the ERM process that JZD developed.... Thanks,
>Kevin
>James Espey Wrote:
>>It is my understanding that the ERM license plate frames were added to the cars
as they entered the US at the Quality Assurance Centers (QACS) I bought a new
license plate frame while at KAPAC last October and they had BOXES of them, all
with "Composite Technologies Corporation" mailing label on them. CTC was the company
formed by JZD/DMC to develop the ERM process.
JZD did not actually "develop" ERM. JZD bought the rights to develop it and then
formed CTC.
ERM stands for elastic reservoir molding. It was originally intended that the
DeLorean be constructed from ERM and then be clad in stainless WITH NO FRAME
whatsoever. ERM was touted as stronger than steel and lighter than aluminum.
When Lotus took over development of the DeLorean, ERM was shelved as the
development time was too long to fit the production timetable. More info can be
found in the excellent book "Stainless Steel Illusion".
I understand that JZD/DMC sold/was forced to sell CTC when DMC closed.
James "Mikasa" Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com Coming in April - http://www.dmcnews.com/
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From: James Nichols Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 09:17:32 +0000
Subject: Re: Key blanks
My car has a single key system and uses a Volvo blank made by Taylor, USA, blank
X29 available at the local hardware store here in Dallas.
Jim # 6884
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From: James Nichols Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 09:17:47 +0000
Subject: Re: Stainless Cleaner
Normally I use a detergent called Simple Green, about half a cup in a bucket of
water to wash the car and a chamois to take off the water spots. Road grime and
tough spots look good after using that green stainless sink cleaner from the
grocery store with a soft rag.
Jim #6884
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From: raddad(AT)cmn.net
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 08:36:55 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: SS Cleaner, Volvo dealer
>was talking about simple things like oil changes, filters etc. Maybe things are
different outside the NY metro area. Regards,
>Marv
Marv
Trust me, things - everything - is different outside the NY metro area. You should
get out and experience just how nice the rest of the world is!!
>From Colorado
Dick Ryan
The Rad Dad
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From: James Nichols Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 09:41:24 +0000
Subject: Re: Door Struts / Torsion Bar
Jameel:
Get a factory Manual and a Parts list, Delorean Houston had them but they're not
cheap, but absolutely necessary if you are going to work on the car yourself. In
the long run, they are really the cheapest part that you will buy.
Struts are simple to replace, just find the correct replacement. If your door is
just drooping, a new strut will fix it.
Torsion Bar: If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Jim #6884
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From: ausmith(AT)pdx.oneworld.com
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 08:03:02 +0000
Subject: Re. Door struts
Get a 2X4, cut it to the right length to prop the door open. No sweat!
Chris
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From: RPET123(AT)aol.com
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 10:55:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: HOOD FLAP?
I HAVE AN AUG 82 AND IT HAS A LOCKING GAS CAP AN NO FLAP ON HOOD I ALWAYS THOUGHT
IT WAS ODD .PERHAPS THEY JUST HAD A LEFTOVER CAP AND USED IT DURING
PRODUCTION
RAY PETRAGALLO
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From: James Espey
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 97 08:48:50 -0000
Subject: Another (old) DeLorean article
Interestingly enough, the February 1983 issue of "High Times" has a four page
article entitled "DeLorean: Was He Framed?". Interesting read and considering
it's time, quite accurate. An added bonus is the centerfold of the magazine is
a really nice looking photo of the DeLorean.
You can still get this back issue new from the publisher for $10 plus shipping.
James "Mikasa" Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com Coming in April - http://www.dmcnews.com/
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From: James Espey
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 97 09:50:44 -0000
Subject: 82 DeLorean for sale
Delorean: 1982, excellent condition, numerous upgrades, original owner, gray
leather, 5 speed, reliable, 23k miles, VIN 11152 $16800 (413) 442-9864 MA or
email Trinity.M.Barbuto(AT)lmco.com
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From: "Michael Babb" Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 12:58:48 +0100
Subject: Re: Electric Antenna?
>Do you guys know of an electric power antena you can add in the back of the car?
I have heard people talking about it, but I don't know what it is and how much it
costs. Can't I just put an antenna amp on the (glass antenna). I hope I didn't
spend way too much on the above items. I want to get more replacement relays. Do
you guys know of any cross refferences for todays relays... Thank you once again!
Have a nice day,
>Sincerely,
>Jameel
There is one....the DeLorean that I got from DMC origionally had the window
antena, but the previous owner had Stephen Wynne install one in the back. You might
want to give him a call and ask him about the antenas.
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 13:07:03 -0500
Subject: Sagging doors
Jim told Jameel:
>Torsion Bar: If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Jameel, Jim gave you some very important advice! Those torsion bars are terriffic
and very seldom need an adjustmant. Chances are all you need are new struts, which
are super-easy to install. I have not found a local source for these, so I always
order mine from Stephen Wynn.
- -Mike Substelny
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From: Jameel Ahed
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 13:03:50 -0600
Subject: Re: Sagging doors
Dear DML,
Thanx for the advice... The only problem is... The guy I bought the car from
replaced them before he gave me the car. I think it could be from cold weather
or something that the doors sagged a bit... But when he opened his Delorean's
doors they flew up with force. I think my bars need to be adjusted... But I
DON'T WANT THEM TO CRACK OR ANYTHING!!! I guess just a little turn won't hurt!
Sincerely,
Jameel
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Jameel Ahed owner of CyberTECH Industries
Consultant for VOITECH Computer Solutions
HOMEPAGE: http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~ahed/
VOITECH: http://www.voitech.com
EMAIL: mailto:ahed(AT)uiuc.edu
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From: gsantoni(AT)mob.com
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 97 13:16:55 -0000
Subject: Where's DeLorean Motor Company (Houston)?
I was just flipping though the past couple issues of DeLorean World and noticed
that Stephen Wynne's operation is no longer advertising. Anyone know why?
G.S.
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From: James Espey
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 97 14:12:06 -0000
Subject: Re: Sagging Doors
>Jameel:
>If the previous owner replaced the struts, did he use the right replacement?
Struts come in at least two pressures of each physical size. If you don't have
the right strut, adjusting the torsion bars will just cause you another problem.
Also, he may have gotten a "deal" on some original 15 year old struts. These still
turn up from time to time and they're worthless by virtue of their age at this
point. Are there any markings/labels on the struts?
James "Mikasa" Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com Coming in April - http://www.dmcnews.com/
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