dmcnews-digest Monday, 7 April 1997 Volume 02 : Number 230 In this issue: Re: Door Struts / Torsion Bar Re: Where's DeLorean Motor Company (Houston)? Re: a/c - reply and door seal adhesive Looking for "scruffy" Delorean Electrical Wiring Diagram Re: Alternator Re: Sagging doors Re: HOOD FLAP? Re: Door Struts Re: Where's DeLorean Motor Company (Houston)? DOA Event April 19 Re: Looking for "scruffy" Delorean Door Struts DeLorean commercial for Windows Update on VIN chronology Re: DeLorean commercial for Windows Re: DeLorean commercial for Windows Taking the D on a Trip Shop List Re: DeLorean commercial for Windows Re: door seal adhesive Maintainence items ! Taking apart doors Brake Master Cylinders Original Tinted Windows Clock radio display Years, Number of cars produced, and Vin numbers (It just doesn't Trans Bearings Re: Years, # of cars produced, and Vin #'s Your Trip to NY BRAKES, Clutch, HOSES? failing TEMP. GUAGE radio for sale Re: Failing Temp Gauge ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRUCE BENSONDate: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 22:41:34 +0000 Subject: Re: Door Struts / Torsion Bar >Can you walk me through the >adjustment of the torsion bars? Thank you so much Sincerely, >Jameel Ahed >-- >-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------- Adjusting the torsion bars is DEFIANTLY a two person job!!! There's more involved than there is room for here. It involves a wooden cradle to rest the long handle of a very large allen wrench, a lead pencil to mark the teeth position on the torsion bar bracket ( don't scratch the bars as that could lead to a fracture of the bar due to it's extreme hardness ), and some very careful hands. If the bracket gets away from you it will spin into the rear window and shatter it. I speak from experience. The new door struts seem slightly stronger than the originals and with the coming of warm weather, the gas in them will expand and produce even more lift. Don't mess with the torsion bars until you've tried the new struts. My doors droop in early spring because Minnesota is pretty cool then. I live with that because I'd be adjusting torsion bars every two weeks until summer arrives and the struts work better. Bruce Benson ------------------------------ From: steve brodsky Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 17:45:40 -0800 Subject: Re: Where's DeLorean Motor Company (Houston)? gsantoni(AT)mob.com wrote: >I was just flipping though the past couple issues of DeLorean World and noticed that Stephen Wynne's operation is no longer advertising. Anyone know why? >G.S. probably doesn't need to. his number is 800-872-3621 ------------------------------ From: DMC12 Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 18:42:34 -0500 Subject: Re: a/c - reply and door seal adhesive Doug Venner =3D'83 #15880 wrote: >= >>"Like I said it blows ice cold for about 5 min. before short cycling and blowing warm, like maybe the evaporator is freezing up or someing." >= >Doug, I think you answered you own question, you have ice someplace. If you are getting good air flow even if it is warm, the evap is not turning into a block of ice, the problem is internal. If you didn't replace your accum/dryer, you are probably getting ice in your expansion tube (it is a fixed orifice GM type). Since it runs cold for five minutes, trash in the screens is not the problem. The accum/dryer is a standard GM part though not as common as some, it took three days to get one here in Dallas. = >If your evap is turning into a block of ice due to high himidity, you can add freon and bring your low side pressure up to about 30 to 32 psi which will give an evap temp of 33 to 36, (above freezing) the temp/press reference is on the guages. >= >Jim #6884 I fixed the A/C today. The low pessure cut off switch was cutting the compressor off at 25psi. I turned the adjustment screw on the pressure switch one half turn counterclockwise and now everything is ok. It won't kill the compressor until a little under 20 psi and my A/C now blows ice cold all the time. = BTW- Does anyone know of a good glue to use on the rubber door seals. Some people told me to use 3M emblem adhesive, but that doesn't seem to hold very good? Doug Venner '83 #15880 ------------------------------ From: DMC12 Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 22:43:03 -0500 Subject: Looking for "scruffy" Delorean I am looking for a DeLorean in rough shape It can be wrecked, rusted, doesn't have to run and can be any color I have a mint Delorean and really want another one to tinker with Please E-mail me it you have one you would like to get rid of I live in New Jersey Doug Venner "83 DeLorean #15880 ------------------------------ From: Richard Strecker Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 22:05:59 -0500 Subject: Electrical Wiring Diagram I realize that this has been asked many times before but I'll ask it ONE more time... Does anyone have a complete wiring diagram of our baby? not the one circuit per page, but a complete end to end diagram? If so, how may I obtain a copy? Is there any chance that someone has it in AutoCAD format? I would appreciate any help. TKS Richard ------------------------------ From: sundiver(AT)hellfire.dusers.drexel.edu (J) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 21:57:00 -0500 Subject: Re: Alternator >Dear DML, >I have the ducilier 80, but I know there is Motorola 90, what about GM... If you guys have any OEM numbers that would kinda help... I am sorry for all these wierd questions. But I think we will definitely benefit! Thanx again. >Sincerely, >Jameel Ahed There is a 90 amp Lucas alternator that fits on the DeLorean. If you're interested (and not scared by the fact that it's a Lucas part :) ) let me know and I can look up the part number. - - J ------------------------------ From: raddad(AT)cmn.net Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 17:14:16 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Sagging doors >Dear DML, >Thanx for the advice... The only problem is... The guy I bought the car >from replaced them before he gave me the car. I think it could be from cold weather or something that the doors sagged a bit... But when he opened his Delorean's doors they flew up with force. I think my bars need to be adjusted... But I DON'T WANT THEM TO CRACK OR ANYTHING!!! I guess just a little turn won't hurt! >Sincerely, >Jameel >-- >-------------------------------------------------- Jameel Ahed owner of CyberTECH Industries Consultant for VOITECH Computer Solutions HOMEPAGE: http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~ahed/ VOITECH: http://www.voitech.com >EMAIL: mailto:ahed(AT)uiuc.edu >-------------------------------------------------- Jameel Yes, the temperature has a definite effect upon the way the doors open. They "fly" up on a hot day and are like molasses on a very cold day. Your torsion bar adjustment should be for the happy medium in your area. Dick Ryan ------------------------------ From: "Michael Babb" Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 02:11:46 +0100 Subject: Re: HOOD FLAP? Mine is also an Aug 81 (4372) with the locking cap and no flap....any others have the same before this month, and any others WITH the flap after Aug? - ---------- >From: RPET123(AT)aol.com >To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com >Subject: Re: HOOD FLAP? >Date: Thursday, April 03, 1997 4:55 PM >I HAVE AN AUG 82 AND IT HAS A LOCKING GAS CAP AN NO FLAP ON HOOD I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS ODD .PERHAPS THEY JUST HAD A LEFTOVER CAP AND USED IT DURING >PRODUCTION >RAY PETRAGALLO ------------------------------ From: "Marvin S. Sterling" Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 00:06:46 -0800 Subject: Re: Door Struts Michael Babb wrote: >Just wondering how painful a process it is to replace the gas struts on the >doors. (my drivers side door seems to be going a little limp) >thanks in advance >Michael Babb, MCSE >ProSoft I-Net Solutions >Phone 919.460.7604 Nationwide pager 888.753.5315 Alpha Pager (Raleigh, NC) 919.389.2695 >Mikebabb(AT)vnet.net michaelba(AT)prosoft.org - ------------------------------------------- Michael - Replacing the door struts is about the easiest thing to do; however, do not fool with the torsion bar, you could literaly lose your head. Regards, Marv Sterling ------------------------------ From: "Michael Babb" Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 02:14:46 +0100 Subject: Re: Where's DeLorean Motor Company (Houston)? Don't know why there haven't been any ads in the last few issues, DMC is still going strong (I was down there ~2 weeks ago) I maybe shouldn't say this, but there is even a web page in the works.....it looks pretty good so far - ---------- >From: gsantoni(AT)mob.com >To: DMCNews >Subject: Where's DeLorean Motor Company (Houston)? Date: Thursday, April 03, 1997 2:16 PM >I was just flipping though the past couple issues of DeLorean World and noticed that Stephen Wynne's operation is no longer advertising. Anyone know why? >G.S. ------------------------------ From: Raymond_Haug(AT)lamg.com (Raymond Haug) Date: 03 Apr 1997 19:42:37 GMT Subject: DOA Event April 19 GETTY AND 'GHETTI ReRUN SATURDAY, APRIL 19, 1997 Join us for a casual morning of art and stainless, followed by lunch. Reservations are a must, as parking is strictly controlled at the Getty Museum. Because the Getty docents are meeting in the afternoon, we can only get entry in the morning. So... 9:00 Gather in Santa Monica, location revealed when you reserve your spot. 9:15 Caravan to the Getty Museum 11:00 Meet at the Getty cafe for a process check: Are we done? What more is there to see? Are you all bored to tears yet? 12:00 to 1:00 p.m. or when ready: DMC picture taking ! Caravan to Bruno's on Centinela in Culver City for good Italian fare. No host lunch No host bar RSVP your interest ASAP to: CINDY SPARKS at: l.sparks(AT)worldnet.att.net or you can leave a (gasp) telephone message at (310) 416-3180. ___ I will attend the Run to the Getty at 9:00 AM ___ I will attend the 'Ghetti Lunch at Bruno's Please leave your name, e-mail address, or phone number and names of those who will join us. Ray Haug Chapter 12 Coordinator Los Angeles Area Delorean Owners Association Raymond_Haug(AT)lamg.com ------------------------------ From: "John W. Herron" Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 06:13:34 -0700 Subject: Re: Looking for "scruffy" Delorean Doug: I placed that posting regarding the "scruffy" DMC in Los Angeles. I found it in the LA Times. The price was $7k. I threw out the paper a few days ago, however, you may be able to catch the ad on-line. Go to: http://www.latimes.com Check out the on-line classifieds...can't promise you its still there though...they have an archives section...may be there now. Regards, John DOA So. Cal ------------------------------ From: magriese(AT)VNET.IBM.COM Date: Fri, 4 Apr 97 08:43:14 CST Subject: Door Struts Jameel DON'T TOUCH THOSE TORSION BARS!!! Well, not yet, anyway. If the doors sag a little, it is because of the struts, not the torsion springs. The door action is a two step overlapping process. The torsion spring starts the motion of the door and applies a decreasing force as the door swings up. After the door gets about 30% open, the gas struts begin to take over, applying more of the force as the door rises. At the top, it's all (or should be all) gas strut. Temperature does effect the struts. If you notice a very big difference with temperature, you need new struts, not a spring adjustment. Why don't you want to mess with the springs until you know it's not your struts? Several reasons. The torsion spring is loaded at all times. If you aren't VERY careful, the spring could get away from you and damage the top of the door, the fibreglass structure on the top of the car, and the stainless T section on the roof - very expensive to fix. If you adjust the spring to hold the doors up with weak cylinders, you probably won't be able to get the doors closed easily. Over time, the additional stress of the overcompressed spring will eventually damage the support structure for the spring in the roof. Again, $$$ to fix. Overadjusted doors have a tendency to rise too fast, again putting stresses on the mount points in the top of the car. Try new struts first. If they don't improve the door action, you can always return them. Mike Griese magriese(AT)vnet.ibm.com ------------------------------ From: James Espey Date: Fri, 4 Apr 97 07:44:08 -0000 Subject: DeLorean commercial for Windows Has anyone gotten the new format provided by Dan Baisley to work on their machine. I'm preparing transfer files to the new server and want to know if it works or not... James "Mikasa" Espey Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List http://www.dmcnews.com Coming in April - http://www.dmcnews.com/ ------------------------------ From: James Espey Date: Fri, 4 Apr 97 09:14:57 -0000 Subject: Update on VIN chronology Well, now that I've started with the 82 and 83 models, owners of 81's are asking me to track their numbers, too. I'm putting all of this in a spreadsheet now, and if you want to participate, this is the info i would like to have... Your Name (this will be withheld from public posting if you specify) City/State (the city will also be withheld if you specify) Last five digits of the VIN Build month/year Interior color 5-speed or automatic Participants will get a copy emailed to them periodically. James "Mikasa" Espey Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List http://www.dmcnews.com Coming in April - http://www.dmcnews.com/ ------------------------------ From: Jameel Ahed Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 11:38:28 -0600Subject: Re: DeLorean commercial for Windows THE COMMERCIAL WORKS GREAT! I used Apple Quicktime on my Pentium Computer... It worked great! Jameel - -- - -------------------------------------------------- Jameel Ahed owner of CyberTECH Industries Consultant for VOITECH Computer Solutions HOMEPAGE: http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~ahed/ VOITECH: http://www.voitech.com EMAIL: mailto:ahed(AT)uiuc.edu - -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Nikki Schumann Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 21:10:52 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Re: DeLorean commercial for Windows James, I have downloaded and tested Dan's converted commercial. I have it functioning on my setup which works on Win 3.11 ! However, I can't say anything about sound as I don't have a sound card on my machine. The picture comes up OK, the duration of the movie being about 9 seconds. However, it seems to be a little fuzzy with pixels seeming like they're fighting for specific positions on the screen. I think that maybe this is due to the conversion or the fact that I'm not using Win 95. Regards, Nikki Schumann. At 07:44 04/04/1997 -0000, you wrote: >Has anyone gotten the new format provided by Dan Baisley to work on their machine. I'm preparing transfer files to the new server and want to know if it works or not... >James "Mikasa" Espey >Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List >http://www.dmcnews.com Coming in April - http://www.dmcnews.com/ ------------------------------ From: Bryan Pearce Date: Fri, 4 Apr 97 16:59:20 -0600 Subject: Taking the D on a Trip Hello all: I am going to be taking a trip from Chicago to Lake Placid, N.Y. leaving on the 14th or 15th of April and returning the 21st or 22nd. I would be interested in meeting any list members along the way and talking DMC. If anyone is interest, send some E-Mail and we can discuss my travel course. Thanks! Bryan Pearce Bryan(AT)denebcorp.com ------------------------------ From: ABatt10347(AT)aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 18:31:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Shop List I have recieved many replies to my starting a list of repair shops that we as DMC owners have used and trust. However, there are a few states that I still need shops from. They are WA, OR, ID, MT, WY, UT, NV, ND, SD, NE, KS, OK, NM, TX, LA, IA, MN, WI, IL, IN, KY, MO, AR, OH, WV, VA, NC, SC, FL, NY, MD, DE, VT, NH, RI, CT, MI,AK, and HI. If you live in one of the listed states please take time to email me (ABatt10347(AT)aol.com) with a repair shop that you have used and found to be good. This list is intended to be a resouce to all who own our gullwinged wonders. If you have any questions please feel free to contact me at the above email. I will continue to compile the repair shop list and will send to the newletter in late April. Bruce Battles Vin.#6569 ------------------------------ From: Scott Tester Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 21:26:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: DeLorean commercial for Windows The Windows Commercial works great on my Win 3.11 Machine. The soundtrack of the commercial says ( The DeLorean.... One of the most awaited automobiles in History. Live the dream, Drive the DeLorean today!) Scott Tester testersd(AT)appstate.campus.mci.net Scott Tester testersd(AT)appstate.campus.mci.net Homepage http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/8240/DeLorean.html ------------------------------ From: BRUCE BENSON Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 23:40:19 +0000 Subject: Re: door seal adhesive >Some people told me to use 3M emblem adhesive, but that doesn't seem to hold very good? >Doug Venner '83 #15880 3M also makes a weather stripping cement. It works great. Bruce Benson ------------------------------ From: "Brandon S. Moody" Date: Sat, 05 Apr 97 22:27:12 PST Subject: Maintainence items ! Hey guys, I'm the new guy on this mailing list. I almost sure this has been covered before but will you do it one more time for the new fellow ? Oil filter = Air filter = brake pads = tran filter (auto) = Rotors = And one more thing, My auto tran doesn't want to do a 3 - 1 shift when passing. It just seems to go to neutral and the engine revs ? Any suggestions ? Thanks ------------------------------ From: Mpeak(AT)aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 16:49:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Taking apart doors I am taking apart my doors to replace my window regulators but am stuck on how to unscrew the interior pull-down handle support attachment in order to remove the lower door trim. The service manual says to use a long philips head screwdriver, but I can't seem to get an angle to make the screws accessable. Even if I did, how would you screw it back in when the time comes to put the door back together? Anybody who can offer anything to help walk me through this, I would appreciate it very much. Thanks, Matt Peak ------------------------------ From: Mpeak(AT)aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 16:08:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Brake Master Cylinders Maybe somebody can help me figure something out. My car needs a new brake master cylinder. When I started looking for one to buy, I first took the casting number from the original master cylinder as a reference. I traced the part and was quoted $293 from three different local Girling dealers. Since I have heard that Girling doesn't make the original brake master cylinder, I got a part number from Girling themselves. Again the price quote was $293. I don't know if both of the cylinders ended up being the same part, that depends on whether Girling gives out part numbers for parts they don't produce any more. Looking through P.J. Grady advertisements, I noticed they sold brake master cylinders for $175. After talking with Rob, I learned that the brake master cylinders they sell aren't the originals (which they don't produce anymore). This one has slightly different valving but he has found it to work better. So, I ordered one. When I received it, I took the casting number off the side and traced the part number through the same three local shops, all quoting $293 and saying I'm wasting my time trying to beat a $175 price on a Girling master cylinder, that all new Girling master cylinders run from the middle $200's on up. My question is, how is Rob Grady selling this part for so low and why is he selling it for so low? Matt Peak ------------------------------ From: Phillip124(AT)aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 23:41:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Original Tinted Windows The windows on my car don't look tinted. Were they tinted with a film that could have been peeled off in the past? I don't see any film on the windows. ------------------------------ From: Phillip124(AT)aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 23:39:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Clock radio display My radio's clock display is displaying distorted and sometimes missing numbers. This problem started about a month ago. It happend after playing a taped for a long time. I don't know how to fix it back. ------------------------------ From: Phillip124(AT)aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 23:58:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Years, Number of cars produced, and Vin numbers (It just doesn't add up) Sender: dmcnews-approval(AT)world.std.com Precedence: list Reply-To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com I was reading a previous posting from Delorean World Magazine Vol I Book 2 Winter 1983. It said that 6539 '81s were produced, 1126 '82s, and 918 '83s. How can my car have been made in Nov '81 and have vin 7134? How come there are '82 models with vins in the 1100 range? I'm so confused. Can someone please clarify this for me? ------------------------------ From: DMC12 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 22:52:07 -0400 Subject: Trans Bearings I have a '83 manual DeLorean and am having trouble with the axle bearings in the trans. There is play between the shafts and the bearings so the axle seals leak really bad. Since they are tapered roller bearings I figure that they might be adj. Is there a way to get rid of this play?? Also, I get these small spots on the body(mostly around the wheelwells) that I can never get to go away. Whats the best way to get rid of these spots? Thanks Doug '83 #15880 ------------------------------ From: James Espey Date: Mon, 7 Apr 97 06:35:27 -0000 Subject: Re: Years, # of cars produced, and Vin #'s Phillip124(AT)aolcom wrote: >It said that >6539 '81s were produced, >1126 '82s, and >918 '83s. >How can my car have been made in Nov '81 and have vin 7134? How come there are '82 models with vins in the 1100 range? I'm so confused. Can someone please clarify this for me? The best answer that I have heard to this question is that each production shift at the factory was assigned a particular range of VINs to produce. If, for any reason, all the VIN's were not used, the numbers were skipped. Maybe this May in Belfast someone will have a definitive answer for us. James ------------------------------ From: Mike Substelny Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 09:54:56 -0400 Subject: Your Trip to NY Bryan, It sounds as though you will pass right through Cleveland. If you would be interested in seeing the first production DeLorean (VIN #0500) and the stainless steel car collection we have here just let me know. My office is just a few minutes from the Crawford Auto Museum and I would love to take a little time to show you around. If you want to see DeLorean Cadillac (currently operated by JZD's nephew) I can arrange that, too. I would love to show off my new house, unfortunately you will be about four weeks too early for that. If it fits with your schedule I may be able to schedule an evening of DeLorean cruising in the Flats. Will you be travelling alone? - -Mike Substelny ------------------------------ From: Jameel Ahed Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 08:45:38 -0500 Subject: BRAKES, Clutch, HOSES? Dear DML, I did so much work on my car last weekend... Well.. All the brakes are done except for rear parking brake pads, and rear brake pads. PLEASE! Does anyone have cross refferenced numbers for these pads!!!! I have the numbers for the fronts, but the rears are giving me trouble. I need: Emergency brake pad numbers. Rear brake pad numbers. I bleed the brakes with the old pads in... Just because I gave up.. I AM TAKING IT BACK! I WILL NOT GIVE UP! I NEED THE NEW CROSS NUMBERS!!!! I also wanted to bleed my clutch and put new fluid in. But I just could not find the clutch bleeder screw. I was under the engine. On top of the engine... I just couldn't do it. I followe the braided clutch line to the metal line that connects to the slave but I just couldn't find the screw!!! PLEASE HELP! HOSES... I have ordered the goodyear hose that connects from the water pump to the aluminum pipe under the water bottle. It still hasn't arrived... Please... if anybody has a number for this... I would appreciate it greatly. The other hoses are wierd. The hoses that are like 3/8 or something I just can't find... People are telling me to use fuel line... but I just don't think it could take that type of heat... A perfect example of this hose is on the passenger side... the hose that connects from the top radiator to the aluminum line.... the aluminum line kinda splits... so the little hose connects and the big hose connects to the bottom of the radiator... I need the little skinny hose... Does anybody have a number on this????? Oh and the bearings for the front wheels... I want to replace the front bearings... the bearing closes to the spacer skirt are kinda falling apart... I want new ones... Does anybody have numbers for this????? All these are very important to my car... I need them bad... If you can help I will be most appreciative... Thanx Sincerely, Jameel Ahed - -- - -------------------------------------------------- Jameel Ahed owner of CyberTECH Industries Consultant for VOITECH Computer Solutions HOMEPAGE: http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~ahed/ VOITECH: http://www.voitech.com EMAIL: mailto:ahed(AT)uiuc.edu - -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: thomas mccoy Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 12:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: failing TEMP. GUAGE Has anyone experienced problems with their temperature guage? I thought I had poor connections at the sensor, but wiggled them and nothing happens. Besides, the cooling fans come on as usual. Sometimes the needle will rise, but is nowhere near the actual temp. Thanks to all... ------------------------------ From: pool Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 15:41:35 -0500 Subject: radio for sale I have an original delorean radio for sale. Everything works except the display. I am looking to get about $90.00 or give me an offer! My name is Eric and my e-mail address is pool(AT)millcomm.com ------------------------------ From: Mike Substelny Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 16:43:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Failing Temp Gauge Thomas McCoy said (Re: incorrect temp gauge readings): >I thought I had poor connections at the sensor, but wiggled them and nothing happens. Besides, the cooling fans come on as usual. I think the DeLorean has a separate temp sensor for the gauge. As I understand it, the cooling fan sensor (located in engine compartment on bottom of driver's side coolant line) is a simple thermocouple. It just goes "on" and "off" as the engine temperature changes. The gauge sensor needs to change resistance to give a gauge reading. I don't know the location of the gauge sensor off the top of my head, but it is a likely source for your trouble. If I were you I would check the factory parts manual for a picture and location of the sensor. - -Mike Substelny ------------------------------ End of dmcnews-digest V2 #230 ***************************** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to majordomo(AT)world.std.com with the message UNSUBSCRIBE DMCNEWS-DIGEST Back issues are available at http://www.dmcnews.com Contact mikasa(AT)goodnet.com if you have problems.
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