DeLorean Mailing List - 4/29/97
dmcnews-digest Tuesday, 29 April 1997 Volume 02 : Number 236
In this issue:
Removing doors !
Delorean for sale
looking for owner
Air filter
Re: Delorean A/T problems
Bleeding the cooling system?
Stainless Steel Rust
Interesting DeLorean Article
Re: DMCs in THE NEED FOR SPEED 2
Re: stainless steel rust
Facia Painting
Parts for sale/wanted
Re: Parts for sale/wanted
Cooling system-we can help
Concerns for a first time DeLorean Buyer Looking for a car
Re: Bleeding the cooling system?
Re: Concerns for a first time DeLorean Buyer
Re: Enough space for a tall person?
Water Pump
How-to compilation? (was: Bleeding the cooling system? )
Re: How-to compilation?
Mechanic in Radnor
First weeks stats for DMCNEWS.COM
Photos, please?
Re: Obligations of owners (was Photo's, Please?) Re: Photos, please?
Re: Mechanic in Radnor
Obligations of owners
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From: "Brandon S. Moody" Date: Fri, 25 Apr 97 07:41:17
PDT
Subject: Removing doors !
Has anyone had any expierence removing a door ? It looks real easy but as
always, there is usually some trick. Any help will be appreciated ! :-)
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From: HOTALASKAN@aol.com
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 14:02:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Delorean for sale
Late production 81 Delorean for sale 26000 miles, gray interior, 5 sp This car
slid under a semi trailer in Seattle Wash, and I purchased the car
hoping to fix it. All the damage is to the front end. The front suspention has
been redone and it has new shocks, upper and lower ball joints and the
suspention parts have been powered coated black. I have a front fiberglass
subframe that will go with the car also.The car runs and is drivable short
distance. I also have a Delorean frame that I want to sell. I need to sell both
due to my son's medical needs. Make offer on both.
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From: DMC12
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 22:18:15 -0400
Subject: looking for owner
I saw a DeLorean driving around East Brunswick NJ today Just wondering if
your on the list
If you are, Please E-mail me
Doug
'83 #15880 NJ
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From: Bora450@aol.com
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 21:53:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Air filter
Rob Hook wrote:
>Does anyone have a cross-reference number for the air filter?
Air filters that work:
Volvo #B28F
Crossland #0421115
Renault #24002697545-1180 (Jeep/Eagle dealer)
Air filters that do not work:
Purolator #AF-4275
Claus Groth
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From: Bora450@aol.com
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 22:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Delorean A/T problems
In a message dated 97-04-21 10:37:58 EDT, you write:
<< How can I tell if my A/T slipping (hardly engages at all) is due to
mechanicals in the A/T or the computer control? >>
You have probably read by now what I know about transmission slipping in
DML. My transmission failed with a week of starting to slip but I have no way
to gauge whether the problem that I had is the same as what you are
encountering.
When both of my computers failed, the transmission would still respond
correctly to the shift lever commands. If you downshift, the transmission
should respond accordingly. If it does not, I suspect that the trans is
malfunctioning. It could be as simple as the solenoids in the valve assembly
not working correctly, but I am just guessing.
I just had a thought. Try disconnecting the two cables that plug into the trans
connector on the firewall. Do this after the car has been started since one of
the cables controls the lockout so that the engine will not start unless the
trans is in neutral or park. If the engine continues to run, you should be able
to drive and shift using the console lever. If all gears function properly, the
computer has malfunctioned. If it does not shift on command, the problem
may be the shift cable adjustment or the trans. I don't know if it will work but
it is worth a try.
Claus Groth
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From: Jameel Ahed
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 18:31:39 -0500
Subject: Bleeding the cooling system?
Dear DML,
I was wondering if somebody could tell me step by step how to bleed the
cooling system. The reason why I am asking the group is because I have asked
about 3 different people and I got 3 different answers. Thank you.
Jameel
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From: Bryan Pearce Date: Sun, 27 Apr 97 17:06:58
-0500
Subject: Stainless Steel Rust
In Digest #235 Guy V. Boutet Wrote:
>I've been shocked today when I discovered several tiny spots of rust on my
hood. My car had been stored during this winter, with a cover on it, in a safe
and dry place. I wonder what does that mean.
>I don't understand: rust on stainless steel???
>Any comments anyone?
Believe it or not, Stainless can rust given just the right conditions. If your car
had some moisture on the hood when you stored it, or encountered high
humidity, this may have been enough to cause some surface rust. Also, if the
cover material did not breath you were asking for trouble.
Bryan Pearce
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From: grifftex@ix.netcom.com (Linda and Cliff Griffith) Date: Sun, 27 Apr
1997 18:41:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Interesting DeLorean Article
I've been a lurker for over a year, and just found an interesting article to write
about.
I attended the Pate Museum swap meet outside of Fort Worth this past
weekend (in the rain, cold, mud, etc.) and stopped by the Hemmings tent to
dry out for a while. They had several back issues of Special Interest Autos for
sale, and I flipped through the old issues that were available. I bought a copy
of the June 1995 issue that had a picture of a DeLorean on the cover. It said
"DeLorean: Stained by Scandle" next to the picture. Get it? Stained, as in
stainless steel!
When I got home, I read the article, and then found out it's already included
in the Gold Portfolio. Oh well. At least I only paid $4 for the magazine. Some
of you might be interested in buying the magazine anyway for the color
picture on the cover and the one inside (which is, of course, in black and
white in the Gold Portfolio).
One interesting part of the article is a the description of a test drive that the
author, who used to be in charge of public relations when the company was
in business, took while he was writing the article. He states that the car he
drove was an '82 with a VIN of 3570. At the time of the test drive, the car was
owned by Mike Sullivan, who was a service specialist for Toshiba and lived
in Parsippany, New Jersey. What is interesting is that the VIN of 3570 sounds
more like an '81 than an '82. I looked back at James' latest VIN listing and
didn't see either the VIN or name listed.
I've had my '81 for about 10 years, and drove it daily for the first 4 or 5 years. I
have no idea how many miles it has on it, because the speedo stopped
working after the first few months (sound familiar?), and I had already
memorized the tack readings for various speeds, so I never fixed it. My son
then drove it to college for a couple of years.
Unfortunately, it's been sitting in the garage since then. I plan to drain the
fuel tank, replace the fuel pump, related hoses. etc. shortly, but I'm kinda
concerned about the junk that may be in the injection system. After I get it
back together, it seems like I should run some injection cleaner through it the
first time I start it. Does anybody have any suggestions (brand of cleaner, ratio
of cleaner to gas, etc.)?
My '81 has grey interior and a 5-speed. It's still stainless, and looks good
(except that the leather and dash need to be replaced - I have sheepskins and a
dash cover on it for now). It has a Craig radio, and I would be very interested
in buying a new ribbon cable for the tape door if anyone on the list puts
together a bulk purchase of these.
It's VIN number is 4634 and was built in 10/81. By the way, it has the one-
piece hood, non-locking gas cap, and no emblem on the hood. It also has a
power radio antenna. It's been a while since I used him, but Pat Wiley used to
have a repair shop in Dallas called Motervation. He does excellent work, but
is somewhat pricey.
Are there any other owners in the Dallas/Fort Worth area? I live in a suburb
of Fort Worth, and would like to find a good, reliable, cheap? repair facility
here without having to drive to Dallas.
I have printed out most of the previous issues of the digest, and would be
interested in getting some kind of index, if anyone has an interest in putting
one together. This has been somewhat lenghthy, but I hope somewhat
interesting.
Thanks for all of your efforts, James. And thanks to all of you posters. Your
information has been invaluable.
Cliff Griffith
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From: ian@inow.com (Ian)
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 18:49:50 +0000
Subject: Re: DMCs in THE NEED FOR SPEED 2
>The words DeLorean DMC12 are included in the actual game! Under the
"history
>of Italdesign" it show the some of the cars Giuar Giurgetto designed, you
guessed it, The DeLorean.
And I have been told that there are quite a few 'hidden' cars in the game.
Maybe, if the moon is in the right phase and you are sitting the right way...
and you press... ...
Oh well, DeLorean never gave up the rights to the car right? So if he did
allow them to use the car someone would know about it already.
and, sigh... TNFS 1 was better in my opinion.
Later,
Ian
ian@inow.com
The DeLorean Mailing List Back Issue Guy. Remember:
http://www.dmcnews.com/
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From: gt-roadracer@juno.com (GUY T AVELLON) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997
23:11:45 EDT
Subject: Re: stainless steel rust
Regarding the rust on stainless steel, couldn't help answering but stainless is
a steel alloy
and steel is still composed mainly of iron. Type 304 is also in the 18-8 family
which means
it has 18% chromium and 8% nickel as its main constituents. Under the
proper conditions, it
will rust...when exposed to some acidic atmospheres and...don't drop your
mayonnaise
sandwich on the body, that's a killer for 304 but not 316. The body needs to
breathe, so make
sure your cover is cotton, not the waterproof variety which will trap dew and
moisture
underneath. Any acid rain in your area? It may be a good idea to wash your
car after it
has been in the rain before you cover it. Also, please don't forget that stainless
steel...the austenitic 300 series..is not very strong, so
don't replace steel alloy bolts with the ss variety because you will greatly
compromise the
strength of the joint.
Guy Avellon
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From: Rob Hook
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 23:17:02 -0400
Subject: Facia Painting
I don't think I had asked about this or not but I was searching the back-issues
for the proper paint to use on the fascias. I didn't find it in the list so I thought
I'd post it here: Ditzler #STO4282. I don't know
whether you need additives to let it flex or not. I imagnie so and I'll post that
when I find out.
- --Rob Hook
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From: michael richard pack Date: Sun, 27 Apr
1997 20:12:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Parts for sale/wanted
Hello everyone
Parts for sale
1. Set of rear Goodyear NCT tires. These were the original tires on the car
from the factory. I would NOT drive on these tires but the tread depth is good,
and the side walls are in good shape. They have 12,000 miles on them. Good
for Concours d' Elegance.
2. Right front fender. Straight and in excellent condition. It has the radio
antenna mast fitting.
I would like to trade for a fender without the hole.
Parts needed
1. glove box, Not the door, but the box itself. 2. power antenna for the rear.
3. door pull straps for early car (with buckel) Black. 4. DMC floor mats Black or
Gray
Sincerely
Michael Pack
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From: "Marvin S. Sterling" Date: Mon, 28 Apr
1997 01:12:36 -0700
Subject: Re: Parts for sale/wanted
michael richard pack wrote:
>Hello everyone
>SNIP
>Parts needed
>SNIP
>2. power antenna for the rear.
Snip
>Sincerely
>Michael Pack
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Michael,
The rear, power antenna is a standard Harada. Check with your auto-radio
shop for either the black mast or silver mast or, if you want they have a
combo am/fm/cb antenna with the required splitter included; Im using the
latter.
Regards,
Marv Sterling
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From: Don Gowler-CFPO01, Don_Gowler-CFPO01@email.mot.com Date:
Mon, 28 Apr 1997 09:20:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Cooling system-we can help
Message authorized by:
: ahed@uiuc.edu@INTERNET at #EMAIL
If you join the club Jameel and can hold off till the 17th of May we will do it
with you.
Regards, The Silver Fox
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>Subject: Bleeding the cooling system?
>From: dmcnews-approval@world.std.com@INTERNET at #EMAIL Date:
4/27/97 6:43 PM
>Dear DML,
>I was wondering if somebody could tell me step by step how to bleed the
cooling system. The reason why I am asking the group is because I have asked
about 3 different people and I got 3 different answers. Thank you.
>Jameel
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From: "Knight Industries 2000" Date:
Mon, 28 Apr 1997 07:16:52 EST
Subject: Concerns for a first time DeLorean Buyer
I am interested in going out and getting myself a delorean. However, one of
the pressing items holding me back is the issue concerning the headroom I
would have as well as the kneeroom available. Standing 6'2", I find it difficult
to just sit in a small vehicle and find it progressively worse to drive them.
Are there any DeLorean owners over 6'0" who could give me some tips on if
I should still consider the delorean an option?
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From: Nick Storr Date: Thu, 01 Jan
1970 11:00:00 +1000
Subject: Looking for a car
Hi all,
I don't know if this is off topic or not, so I'll keep it brief.
Basically, I'm after a "fixer-upper" DeLorean that I can import here to
Australia and convert for Right hand Drive. As long as it is straight, and has
no major (unrepairable) body damage, I'm interested. Obviously, I'm not
wanting to pay huge amounts of money! So if you know of any cars fitting
this description, I'd be very happy if you could let me know.
Thanks in advance...
Nick Storr
nick_storr@onaustralia.com.au
PS: If you know of a car, but you're not sure it would fit the bill... let me know
anyway! Thanks
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From: Henry Breer Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 23:41:37
-0700
Subject: Re: Bleeding the cooling system?
Jameel Ahed wrote:
>Dear DML,
>I was wondering if somebody could tell me step by step how to bleed
the
>cooling system. The reason why I am asking the group is because I have
asked about 3 different people and I got 3 different answers. Thank you.
>Jameel
Jameel,
The cooling system on a DeLorean is a vacuum system and is prone to
something a'kin to vapor lock and will cause overheating if the air is not bled
properly. Here is the procedure I use.
Run a piece of small diameter (ie vacuum) hose (about 3 feet) from the air
bleed screw located on the thermostat housing at the back of the engine into a
bucket full of water. Run water from a garden hose into the header bottle.
Start the engine. Open the bleed screw. Turn on the car's heater.
As the engine runs, you should get bubbles from the end of the vacuum hose.
Keep running the engine until the fans have cycled on and off twice. (This
ensures that the thermostat has opened and any air trapped in the heater core
has had a chance to circulate).
When you get no more bubbles, shut the engine off, but leave the bleed screw
open. Slowly pour one gallon of anti-freeze into the header bottle. This will
force a gallon of water out through the bleed screw and into the bucket, but it
is so far downstream in the cooling system, you will not loose any anti-freeze.
Note: The cooling system holds 2.9 gallons. The above mixture is about 35%
anti-freeze and 65% water and works fine here in Southern California, but if
you want to use the recommended 50/50 mixture, you should add about 1 1/2
gallons of anti-freeze instead.
CLOSE THE BLEED SCREW BEFORE TAKING THE END OF THE HOSE OUT
OF THE BUCKET! Then you can pull the hose off of the bleed screw and put
the cap back on the header bottle.
Hope this works as well for you as it has for me.
Hank Breer
DOA #4637
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From: Starman
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 09:44:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Concerns for a first
time DeLorean Buyer
Hi,
I'm 6'5". No problem for me. This issue has come up on the list a lot and all I
can say is you'll probably fit better than me if you're 2" shorter :).
Mike
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997
12:53:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Enough space for a tall person?
>Are there any DeLorean owners over 6'0" who could give me some tips on
if I should still consider the delorean an option?
I'm 6'1" and my father is 6'3" and we both have more than enough room in
my DeLorean. For a sports car the DeLorean is quite generous with space for
the two occupants. But space for anything else is very limited!
The gullwing doors make it easy for a tall person to get in/out of a DeLorean.
They are better than jacknife doors, because when the DeLorean doors open
part of the roof goes up with them. I would say that the DeLorean may be the
best sports car ever made for tall people.
- -Mike Substelny
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From: WINGD2@aol.com
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 13:12:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Water Pump
The water pump for the Delorean is available from any Car Quest auto parts
store. There are two versions made. The original style with the press
on pulley is part number 9147 and the later model with the bolt on pulley is
part number 9146. Check the picture in the parts book when you order, I may
have the part numbers reversed. Anyway these water pumps sell for about
$110
ea with out pulleys. They are the same pumps as on the car, right down to the
casting number on the housing.
The pulley on the original pump must be pressed off and then pressed back
on the new pump. This is not hard to do if you use some care. Note: befor you
press the original pulley off you must measure the offset distance
from the pulley to the pump housing. When the pulley is installed on the
new
pump you must maintain this offset distance for the v-belts to align. The
water pump shaft does not have a shoulder or stop for the pulley to set
against so it can be pressed on too far. The shaft on the new pump is also
about 2inchs longer then the original pump. It just sticks thru the pulley
farther than the original after installation. You can either cut the excess
shaft off or just leave it long. It does not interfear with anything after
reinstallation. This is the reason you must measure the offset from the pulley
to the HOUSING and maintain this distance.
As far as the later style pump with the bolt on pulley, I don't have any
experience with this unit. I do know the "D" shops that sell these units have
a billet aluminum pulley made to go with their pumps. You buy it as a
complete assembly. I doubt if you could buy just the pulley. These pumps are
for later model Volvos but I don't know if a pulley from a later model would
have the correct offset or be the correct size. Maybe someone else on the list
can help with this.
Marty
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From: e/evan/altendorf Date: Mon, 28 Apr
1997 13:09:03 -0700
Subject: How-to compilation? (was: Bleeding the cooling system? )
I see a *lot* of really good repair how-to's pass through this list. I know that
this maillist is archived, and I've seen a fair amount of DeLorean info on the
web, but I've never seen an organized, searchable compilation of individuals'
how-to's. Did I just miss it?
Unfortunately, I don't have the time to do this myself (and besides, I have
never owned a DMC or any other car ;) but it sounds like a cool project for
someone, someday...
Thoughts?
- -e.
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From: James Espey
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 97 13:27:44 -0000
Subject: Re: How-to compilation?
I am actively searching for a method of easily indexing the back issues, or
looking for a volunteer to do so. Additionally, I am open to any ideas that
would make the back issues "searchable" through the web pages. Please email
me directly if you have ideas or other input how we can extract as much
usefulness out the wealth of information in the back issues...
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com/
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From: Bob Kidd
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 02:03:47 -0400
Subject: Mechanic in Radnor
Hi All,
Could someone please post or e-mail me the name and number of the
DeLorean garage or mechanic in Radnor, OH.
Thanks a bunch,
Bob Kidd #3886
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From: statistics@request.com
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 09:52:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: First weeks stats for
DMCNEWS.COM
Thanks to all who made the first week of DMCNEWS.COM a rousing success!
| Page | Total | Bytes |
Date | Accesses | Hits | Transferred |
- ----------+------------+--------------+-----------------+
04/21/97 | 548 | 2,262 | 17,231,838 |
04/22/97 | 566 | 2,122 | 7,300,438 |
04/23/97 | 301 | 1,619 | 4,644,316 |
04/24/97 | 485 | 1,927 | 8,199,809 |
04/25/97 | 630 | 2,802 | 11,916,570 |
04/26/97 | 604 | 2,783 | 9,326,667 |
04/27/97 | 651 | 2,731 | 9,491,955 |
04/28/97 | 884 | 3,557 | 11,543,412 |
- ----------+------------+--------------+-----------------+
Totals | 4,669 | 19,803 | 79,655,005 |
James "Mikasa" Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com/
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From: "Michael E. Gaines" Date: Mon, 28 Apr
1997 22:02:30 +0100
Subject: Photos, please?
Hi all,
This weekend my wife and I just went for a drive down the shore. We
stopped for a bit in Atlantic Highlands and of course the car attracted a lot of
attention. This is the first time since I got the car in September that I've
actually done anything with it besides go to work. Anyway, I wasn't really
interested in talking to anyone, we just wanted to spend time together away
from the house. I had the driver's side door up to get some air after driving
for a few hours.
So this guy comes up with his kid (about 5 yrs. old) and asks if he could take a
picture of his kid in the driver's seat. You have to understand that my wife
and I were really just trying to relax. I wasn't expecting this. I VERY politely
told him that we really just wanted to not be disturbed. He was VERY upset
and surprised. I mean, is there some kind of social obligation that I don't
know of to this kid? I was telling my wife that if I saw a couple in a unique
car, I'd respect their privacy. With the summer coming I'm worried that this
kind of thing is going to happen a lot. A DeLorean Mid-Atlantic member was
telling me at the New Hope get-together that at shows, people would just
plop their kids in the car and take pictures without asking. I didn't buy the car
to succumb to the public's whims. Anyone else have problems/stories like
this?
Mike
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From: James Espey
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 97 07:26:15 -0000
Subject: Re: Obligations of owners (was Photo's, Please?)
>I didn't buy the car to succumb to the public's whims. Anyone else have
problems/stories like this?
Oh man, if I had a nickel for every time something like this happened to me,
I'd buy another car. Then I would set that one up for people to sit in and
photograph.
I regularly (once a month or more) show my DeLorean, and I'm fortunate
that at one particular show, most people know not to sit in,. touch, etc the
cars. But last month another list memeber from Phoenix and I took our cars
to another show, and we're there just AMAZED at how bold people are.
For a period of time, we sat about 50 feet from the cars, which were sitting in
the classic "doors up" position. I try to always latch the seatbelt as a kind of
subtle reminder not to sit in the cars, but people were still trying! I have an
alarm on my car, and everytime someone would try, I'd hit the "panic"
button on my remote - made some people move pretty quickly, others were
oblivious.
The car will attract attention, anytime, anywhere. One of the early magazine
reviews noted this and said the Delorean is not a car for the introverted. I
don't think we have any more obligations than owners of other "interesting"
cars, but at the same time, I do go out of my way to leave a positive
impression with people about the car.
James
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From: Jameel Ahed
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 07:46:17 -0500
Subject: Re: Photos, please?
I too, had problems like this.. ON my long journey home. I never ever
imagined I would get that kind of attention! My Dad on the otherhand laughs
and said... NOW I KNOW WHY YOU GOT THIS CAR!... I truely didn't know
I would get that kind of attention... Well.. I can't say I haven't had any kids
being plopped in my car, that would piss me off royaly!, but I have had some
nice teenagers drive all the way home to get their camera just to take a few
pictures of them standing next to it! I kinda felt like, hey you know.... when I
wanted this car I would have loved to have some pictures of it.... At the time,
I was somewhere in idaho or something changing the battery infront of a
walmart... Not really infront... one of the last spaces farthest away from the
store... I hope I don't get that kind of attention... See I am also scared that if
you turn people away like that, they might out of revenge hurt the car... like
put some dents.. slash some tires.... you know... It is a very touchy subject.... It
all comes down to manners... I never ever touched a porsche or vette or
anything that I really loved that was just parked right next door.... I would
just stand at a distance and admire... That is completely rediculous that
somebody would have the gahl to just ask that of you! I wonder if anybody
else has some horror stories they would like to share... and any suggestions
on how to deal with certain situations!
Take care everybody,
Jameel
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Industries Consultant for VOITECH Computer Solutions HOMEPAGE:
http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~ahed/ VOITECH: http://www.voitech.com
EMAIL: mailto:ahed@uiuc.edu
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997
12:25:18 -0400
Subject: Re: Mechanic in Radnor
Bob Kidd asked:
>Could someone please post or e-mail me the name and number of the
DeLorean garage or mechanic in Radnor, OH.
That would be Dave Bauerle (pronounced bow-er-lee). Radnor is just
northwest of Columbus. I don't have the number with me, but it's in
DeLorean World. Dave is a great guy. He has a large shop and there are
usually a number of DeLoreans there.
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997
12:22:21 -0400
Subject: Obligations of owners
I have never had anyone do anything so rude as sit in my DeLorean
uninvited. However, the stainless seems to beg people to touch it. Well
mannered people at car shows who wouldn't dream of touching a '55 T-bird
will absently place their finger tips on the DeLorean body. Sometimes they
don't even realize it.
As James said, I would advise you to get used to people asking for pictures
and such. On weekends, especially at leisure-type events like a drive to the
shore, people will assume you have time to kill and march right up to you.
Sometime they use a kid as an excuse, but not always.
These people don't bother me very much. I enjoy showing off my DeLorean.
The ones that disturb me are the ones that follow me places, especially during
the week.
One morning last summer I had just pulled in at work into our gated,
guarded lot. As my door raised into the air a guy came huffing and puffing up
to my car. He said he had been following me for half an hour just to look at
my car. When he saw me pass through the security gate he abandoned his
own car in the middle of the road and hopped the gate to continue the chase.
This guy didn't even ask to sit in the driver's seat. He just wanted a close look
at a DeLorean. I hated to risk offending him in case he turned out to be a
wacko, but he had already made me late for work. I had to give him the
bum's rush.
Another time a guy followed me off of the Ohio Turnpike to take a picture of
my DeLorean. He was very polite and apologetic so I let him indulge himself.
- - Mike Substelny
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