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173. NELLYMAC1@aol.com [DML] Re: loose steering
174. Paraversal@aol.com [DML] Lo-Jack
175. Mike Cutting [DML] Re: dmcnews digest
176. DMC Joe [DML] Re: prototype spotted
177. William T Wilson [DML] Radio inputs
178. DMC Joe [DML] Re: spec.'s
179. DMC Joe [DML] Re: Interesting Clutch Problem
180. NELLYMAC1@aol.com [DML] owner
181. DMC Joe [DML] Re: CLUTCH JOB
182. R. Starling [DML] Re: Door Glass Alignment
183. Michel Poulin [DML] Re: Long Trips
184. Ronald Pohala [DML] Re: Radio inputs
185. raynet@home.net [DML] Re: Radio inputs
186. DJRaich@aol.com [DML] Re: Lo-Jack
187. Marc A Levy [DML] Re: Radio inputs
188. Brian Henderlong [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC
189. Lee [DML] Re: Interesting Clutch Problem
190. Lee [DML] Re: DMC Bulletin Board
191. dtaylor2@neo.rr.com [DML] Jan. 1st
192. William T Wilson [DML] Re: Jan. 1st
193. Sean Jones [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC
194. Brian Metz [DML] Re: Radio inputs
196. (no author) [DML] No Subject
197. (no author) [DML] No Subject
198. Donald - SA Intern [DML] delorean on M2
199. Brian Metz [DML] Re: Jan. 1st
201. (no author) [DML] No Subject
202. Brian Henderlong [DML] custom DeLorean pic
203. Dave Price [DML] Re: Radio inputs
204. Frank Lommen [DML] No Subject
205. Brian Henderlong [DML] Raffled DMC
206. Martin Gutkowski [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC
207. Michel Poulin [DML] Re: Raffled DMC
208. Joe Capasso [DML] Re: Raffled DMC
209. Jimbo0946@aol.com [DML] Re: Radio inputs
210. David Sontos [DML] Re: Long Trips
211. NELLYMAC1@aol.com [DML] Re: Radio inputs
212. Michel Poulin [DML] Re: Raffled DMC
213. (no author) [DML] No Subject
214. (no author) [DML] No Subject
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218. (no author) [DML] No Subject
219. sundiver@discordia.org [DML] Re: Jan. 1st
220. Josh Haldeman [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC
221. DMC Joe [DML] Re: Raffled DMC
222. DMC Joe [DML] Re: loose steering
223. DMC Joe [DML] Re: Lo-Jack
224. DMC Joe [DML] Re: Long Trips
225. MCCOMBC@dteenergy.com [DML] Prototype
226. DMC Joe [DML] Re: Interesting Clutch Problem
227. Paraversal@aol.com [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC
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From: NELLYMAC1@aol.com
Subject: [DML] Re: loose steering
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:31:54 EDT
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I have the exact opposite ! my steering is really tight and a squeaking noise
is louder than the stereo will go! If I point the car round a tight corner I
can take my hands of the wheel ,lay down and have a nice cup of tea, forty
winks ,read a book and the car still keeps the same track ( a real party
trick to scare them all ) I know there is a problem but I,m sure its just the
bush where the colum goes through the bulk head
Does anyone know a fix as to be honest the last time I went to tackle the
problem I spent a few hours without getting the steering wheel off !!
help would be helpful!
Neil in Scotland
VIN#2119
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From: Paraversal@aol.com
Subject: [DML] Lo-Jack
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:51:19 EDT
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I was just wondering if any owners out there have had the Lo-Jack vehicle
recovery system installed in their DeLorean, and what the real benefits of
the system are. For those of you who are unfamiliar with Lo-Jack, it is NOT
an alarm system, but more of a homing device that the police use to track
stolen cars. If your car is stolen with a Lo-Jack system on board, they will
track it and the police will retrieve it. Now honestly I do not like to
change my DeLorean in the slightest. I really wouldn't want many changes made
to the car. Does anyone out there have this installed on their DeLorean? What
do you think of it.
Thanks,
Curious Justin
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From: "Mike Cutting" <mcutting@ntl.sympatico.ca>
Subject: [DML] Re: dmcnews digest
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:21:04 -0400
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hi...
i am in the process of purchasing an 82, 5 spd. i will have to float a loan
for a good portion of the price, and i figured that it would probably be
easier to get some financing (because of the cars age..) if i had an
apprasial.. can anyone in the toronto area suggest a reputable apprasier?
i would also appreciate it if someone could let me know of a company that
appreciates the value of these cars, and is readily willing to finance
them.. i can forsee the age of the car being a problem for my bank.
thanks..
:)
<=-mike-=>
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: prototype spotted
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:42:54 -0400
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James,
Sounds like you have a rare find, the sliding windows is the giveaway. See
if you can get the VIN. Keep us posted.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> From: WtrResQ@aol.com
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> Subject: [DML] prototype spotted
> Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 7:31 AM
>
> i was driving around at work, in San Jose California, when a friend told
me
> that there was a Delorean in a driveway near his house. i went to check
it
> out and sure enuff, there it was. it had a Calif. license plate on
> it(PROTO1) although it obviously had not ben registered in years. it was
> covered in dust and had 4 flat tires. i noticed that it didnt have the
black
> window louvers on the back and had sliding side windows on the doors. i
> knocked on the door and the "lady of the house" told me that her husband
had
> purchased it at auction when J. Delorean was going though his "legal
> problems". she told me that it had less that 180 miles of "test track
only
> miles", and that hubby had paid $37K for the car. i had to take off and
> hubby wasnt home, so i left my card for him to call me. ill fill you all
in
> as soon as i get more info.
>
> happy driving,
> james- STAINLS
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From: William T Wilson <fluffy@snurgle.org>
Subject: [DML] Radio inputs
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 03:26:45 -0400 (EDT)
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Do either the Craig or the ASI radios have an auxiliary-in jack on them
(for connecting an external CD player, for example)? If not, would anyone
have a recommendation for a replacement stereo that might include such a
thing? A tape player would be preferable to a CD player.
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: spec.'s
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:37:34 -0400
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Michel,
DO NOT ADVANCE THE TIMING! The DeLorean ignition system is extremely stable
and will never drift. We have found most cars never need adjustments from
their factory settings. If the engine is running rough the problem will be
related to items other than timing unless someone has tampered with it. The
timing should be set to 13 degrees BTDC + or - 2 degrees. A rough running
cold engine is usually caused by a malfunction of the "warm up circuit" or
"fuel enrichment circuit".
Concerning the outer drive shaft to hub carrier torque the factory spec is
270 lb. ft.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> Subject: [DML] spec.s
> Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 8:58 PM
>
> My friend and I are going to be doing a little work tomorrow on the D.
One
> of his rear wheels had come loose and he snuged it up.. How much torque
> should the wheel bearings have?
> Also, The engine is running rough untill it warms up. I know on my merc
I
> had to move the timeing up to correct for this. Should the D be the same?
> and if so, what is a safe amount to move it up?
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Interesting Clutch Problem
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:15:15 -0400
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Marc & Lee,
Shortly after the DeLorean hit the streets the infamous "plastic clutch
line" problems started popping up all over the country. In an effort to
correct the problem an adjustable clutch pedal link was manufactured and
supplied to dealers for replacement. (Service Bulletin No. ST-07-9/82). The
problem was that in order to compensate for the loss of pedal action the
link could be easily over adjusted this caused the master cylinder plunger
to travel too far in the bore causing premature failure of the master
cylinder. The adjustable link should only be considered as temporary,
replacing the factory plastic line with the stainless braided is the only
way to go.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com>
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> Subject: [DML] Re: Interesting Clutch Problem
> Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 9:15 PM
>
> Some of us have a after market adjustable clutch link..... This may be
> what was adjusted.
>
>
> Lee wrote:
>
> > I sure would like to know what all these people are adjusting and why
it
> > only last for two weeks?
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From: NELLYMAC1@aol.com
Subject: [DML] owner
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:41:33 EDT
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Hi
I ahve had my D for a couple of years and am looking for some info on its
history ,it was sold to a G Mohi in LA in 1981 and was sold it seems by DMC
.Does anyone know if this was a DMC only dealer or if the garage is still
there and selling another brand ? Is there a G Mohi in a Delorean club or has
anyone heard of him ?
I have his address from 81 but dont want to pester him
any help?
Cheers from Scotland
Neil
2119
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: CLUTCH JOB
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:19:07 -0400
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Lance,
Not to diminish your fine work at bleeding the clutch but I wanted to reply
to your statement that "As you would be aware, the job would be impossible
to accomplish unless the car is raised off the ground." We bleed the slave
cylinder without ever getting under the car. The whole process takes us
less than five minutes. Of course it does help that we do this all the
time.
I guess it has to do with how many ways to "skin a cat". Thanks for your
input.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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From: Lance R Haslewood <lanceh@zeta.org.au>
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Subject: [DML] Re: CLUTCH JOB
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 7:36 PM
Lee,
Recently I had to replace the clutch becuse the plate disintergrated.
While I had the clutch out, I decided to have the clutch slave cylinder
re-sleeved because it had a slight weep. It also had some corrosion
inside. I found bleeding the line and cylinder was not too difficult a
job, just a bit fiddly. If I recall, a 5/32" ring/open-end spanner fitted
neatly over the bleed valve (ring end). With this in place, I fitted a
length of clear plastic tube over the end of the valve and placed the other
end into a jar. I used about 4' of tubing. Enough to reach from the slave
cylinder to the ground and with a bit to spare. With my son working the
cluch pedal, I successfully bled the system. In fact, I completely changed
the oil with new. I have a good strong pedal and the clutch works great.
As you would be aware, the job would be impossible to accomplish unless the
car is raised off the ground. I had my 'D' on axle stands. Also if you
lay on a creeper, this will give you more mobility whilst under the car and
make the job a little easier for you. For illumination, I used a 240v
trouble light which I managed to wedge up beside the bell housing.
I don't mean to be telling you how to suck eggs, but the bleeding process
is quite simple. With the bleed valve closed, have somebody slowly pump
the pedal a few times, and with the pedal held in, release the bleed valve.
Make sure the person working the pedal does not release the pedal while
you have the valve open. Keep repeating this process until all air is
removed from the system and a good flow of fluid extrudes. During the
process, you will notice clutch beginning to operate and the pedal becoming
load bearing.
Lance
At 02:56 23/04/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi to all our DML members,
>
>It's been a while sense my last post.
>
>My D has been laid up for the last couple of months with a broken clutch
(5)
>speed. I lost all pedal just as I got home, and ended up pushing it up the
>drive-way
>and into the hanger.
>
>After checking the fluid level and finding it empty! and finding a stained
>driver
>side carpet indicating that the clutch master cylinder was probably the
>problem,
>I ordered one from PJ Grady. It took quite a while to get around to
>starting the
>repair because I thought it was going to be difficult and time consuming.
>
>It turned out that even with needing a second person to hold a Phillips to
>remove
>the two nuts, the whole remove and replace job took an hour. All that is
>left is
>the bleeding,
>
>The original unit look fine, although on the dirty side. I found some
>indication of
>wetness around the plunger but not the dripping I expected. When I opened
the
>seal end which on the original has a metal band holding the seal in place
I
>discovered
>a rusty nasty wet mess. Removing the plunger requires the removing of a
>snap ring.
>Once cleaned up the plunger is installed in the new master cylinder, which
>comes with a new snap ring. Installing the new master cylinder is easy
>enough, as is the connecting of the
>fluid fill hose and the hydraulic line back to the slave cylinder.
>
>Every time something breaks I get the feeling that the problem will never
>be fixed, and every time I dive in I find that I enjoy working on my D,
Now
>all that's left is to bleed the lines.
>
>Well the bleeding is done and the clutch works!
>
>Now a question?
>
>Any one who has ever had to bleed the clutch line knows what a bitch it is
>just to reach
>and what a mess it makes, especially when a master cylinder is replaced
and
>you are faced with bleeding most of the line contents to get all the air
out.
>
>I have come up with a single tool that will do the following:
>
>1. loosen the bleeder screw with out removing the Engine CVR or even
>reaching behind the engine.
>
>2. collects all the Dot-4 as it is bled (spl?) off and puts in a container
>and not the bell housing or floor.
>
>3. loosens and tightens the bleed screw during the bleeding cycle, again
>with out requiring reaching down behind the engine and is used to tighten
>screw when bleeding is complete.
>
>If you are interested in such an item please let me know via direct e-mail
>using reply! just say "me too"
>
>TTFN
>
>Lee
>
>
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From: "R. Starling" <doctor280@email.msn.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: Door Glass Alignment
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:09:12 -0400
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The $5.00 side window repair details are now listed on my web sight.
http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/stainlesssteel/index.html
Keep The Dream Alive And Be Safe,
Robert Starling
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From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: Long Trips
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:55:53 -0400 (EDT)
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On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Lee wrote:
> And given all this the DMC loves a
> winding two lane black to in the rolling hill. I don't know about others
> who own DMC's but mine handles great on both open freeway and the winding
> coast roads of California.
>
> Lee
>
Over the weekend my friend and I put 300 miles on the D. It was a mix of
city and highway. The D much prefers the highway as aposed to stop and go.
The water temp would shoot up to 220 in a matter of minuts when we
started goingfrom stop light to stop light. Once we got moving again, the
temp would drop below 150 quickly. By design, it's just not ment to sit
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From: "Ronald Pohala" <rpohala@luzerne.edu>
Subject: [DML] Re: Radio inputs
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:11:42 -0400
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I also would like to put a high level CD player in WHich one would fit with
minimum damage in case I ever wanted to go back to original. Hell I want
good sounds and all my music is on CD now soon will be DVD.
Ron
William T Wilson wrote:
> Do either the Craig or the ASI radios have an auxiliary-in jack on them
> (for connecting an external CD player, for example)? If not, would anyone
> have a recommendation for a replacement stereo that might include such a
> thing? A tape player would be preferable to a CD player.
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From: raynet@home.net
Subject: [DML] Re: Radio inputs
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<SNIP> Do either the Craig or the ASI radios have an auxiliary-in jack on them <SNIP>
As far as I know neither of them had an input. I do know that Alpine and JVC have units that have inputs and controls right on the tape player to control a CD Changer. Usually they will only work with their respective brands of CD Changers
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From: DJRaich@aol.com
Subject: [DML] Re: Lo-Jack
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:35:49 EDT
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I have Lo-Jac in a leased car. Haven't figured out yet why I did it except my
insurance carrier reduced my premium relating to the value of the car by 10%.
As the car has never been stolen, I have no idea how well it works, however,
LAPD did make a big haul on cars stolen and being shipped out of the country
in freight containers about a year or so ago. Located a couple of the cars by
Lo Jac and found the rest of the stolen cars at the Los Angeles harbor. I
don't think the cost ($450 negotiable) is necessarily worth installation in
the Delorean as insurance would cover the loss and they seem to be readily
available to be purchased for the foreseeable future. Just a thot.
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Kenwood makes a unit that fits in the stock location, and will control
their CD changer units. Model: KRC-3006, sells for $179.95 in most
places.
William T Wilson wrote:
>
> Do either the Craig or the ASI radios have an auxiliary-in jack on them
> (for connecting an external CD player, for example)? If not, would anyone
> have a recommendation for a replacement stereo that might include such a
> thing? A tape player would be preferable to a CD player.
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Anyone hear anything further about the DeLorean that was turned over by the
rioting college students? Has anyone heard from the owner?
I'm curious to know what kind of service his/her insurance company is
giving, whether there are any more pictures online, and whether any civil
or criminal suits have been filed.
Just wondering,
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From: Lee <lseiler@radiance.com>
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:52:38 -0700
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At 01:15 AM 4/26/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Marc & Lee,
>Shortly after the DeLorean hit the streets the infamous "plastic clutch
>line" problems started popping up all over the country. In an effort to
>correct the problem an adjustable clutch pedal link was manufactured and
>supplied to dealers for replacement. (Service Bulletin No. ST-07-9/82). The
>problem was that in order to compensate for the loss of pedal action the
>link could be easily over adjusted this caused the master cylinder plunger
>to travel too far in the bore causing premature failure of the master
>cylinder. The adjustable link should only be considered as temporary,
>replacing the factory plastic line with the stainless braided is the only
>way to go.
reply:
Joe,
So if I understand what you are saying, that some D's may have this
adjustable part and this part can be over adjusted to compensate for loss
of pedel which will cause the master cylinder to fail.
Also that the stainless line is the correct and permanent fix for both?
I replaced my plastic line a while back so I expect the new master
cylinder to last
for a while. I also note that some owners report no problems in spite of
the plastic line.
Lee
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From: Lee <lseiler@radiance.com>
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At 02:29 PM 4/25/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Lee, Glad to hear that you are feeling better.
>
>For the benefit of those of us who keep messing up there PC's, would you
>post the address for the DMC Bulletin Board/
>
reply:
Sure Scott!
http://www.totalimmersion.com/dmcboard/index.html
I will also post the URL's for the up coming pictures and sample calendars
once they are actually up.
Lee
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I wanted to know if anyone knows if Y2K will affect the onboard computer in the "D"
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On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 dtaylor2@neo.rr.com wrote:
> I wanted to know if anyone knows if Y2K will affect the onboard
> computer in the "D"
I'll go out on a limb here and say that Y2K will affect the onboard
computer in no or virtually no cars. We had a discussion about this a
while back and it seems the criteria for a Y2K problem are:
Clock must be installed in system;
System must care about clock output;
Clock must be set to valid date.
I don't know whether the DMC-12 computer contains any clocks or not, but
if it does, you can reset them to 1981 by disconnecting the battery. :}
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From: Sean Jones <shain@noln.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC
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Hello,
I never saw the first set of pictures. When i first went to it it was up yet.
Then I lost the url. Can someone please repost it? Thanks.
- Shain
Brian Henderlong wrote:
> Anyone hear anything further about the DeLorean that was turned over by the
> rioting college students? Has anyone heard from the owner?
>
> I'm curious to know what kind of service his/her insurance company is
> giving, whether there are any more pictures online, and whether any civil
> or criminal suits have been filed.
>
> Just wondering,
>
> Brian Henderlong
> mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com
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From: Brian Metz <metz.50@osu.edu>
Subject: [DML] Re: Radio inputs
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:48:54 -0400
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>Do either the Craig or the ASI radios have an auxiliary-in jack on them
>(for connecting an external CD player, for example)?
YOU CAN PURCHASE A CD CHANGER WITH AN FM MODULATOR IN IT. THIS IS WHAT I
PLAN ON DOING FOR MY D IN A FEW MONTHS. A CHANGER WITH A MODULATOR WILL
WORK WITH ANY STEREO THAT USES AN ANTENNA (HENCE EVERY CAR STEREO). IT
PLUGS INTO THE ANTENNA JACK AND THEN THE ANTENNA PLUGS INTO IT. THEREFORE,
YOU CAN STILL HAVE YOUR AM'FM RADIO - CASSETTE PLAYER (ORIGINAL) AND A CD
PLAYER/CHANGER!!!
BRIAN
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BY THE WAY THESE ARE VERY POPULAR AND CAN BE PURCHASED FOR AS LOW AS $150.00
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From: Donald - SA Intern <saintern@peri.com>
Subject: [DML] delorean on M2
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:15:39 -0400
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Just to let everyone know there was a delorean featured today(April
26th)on MTV's sister station "M2". It had the women who presents the
videos sitting on top of one of the cars from "BTTF". Didn't have time
to listen to get any background on why it was on there but i did catch a
big "BTTF" banner in the background. Any idea why there would be one of
these cars in NYC at the MTV studio's? Did anyone get the chance to
catch it?
Donald Kazmark
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From: Brian Metz <metz.50@osu.edu>
Subject: [DML] Re: Jan. 1st
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:02:25 -0400
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>I wanted to know if anyone knows if Y2K will affect the onboard computer
in the "D"
>
> Thanks...Donnie
I HOPE YOU ARE KIDDING. ALL THE COMPUTER DOES IS TAKE THE READINGS THAT
THE SENSORS ARE CURRENTLY SENDING TO IT AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS ACCORDINGLY.
THE COMPUNTER COULDN'T CARE LESS WHAT THE DATE IS.
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From: Brian Henderlong <bhenderlong@mindspring.com>
Subject: [DML] custom DeLorean pic
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:09:26 -0400
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There's a picture of an interesting custom DeLorean at:
http://home.t-online.de/home/Klaus.Steiner/meet98.htm
The car is red and the taillights have been replaced with
those of a Ferrari! Looks very strange! Also, the louvers
have been removed.
Check it out,
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From: "Dave Price" <davep2@clipper.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Radio inputs
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:49:17 -0700
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> Do either the Craig or the ASI radios have an auxiliary-in jack on them
> (for connecting an external CD player, for example)? If not, would anyone
> have a recommendation for a replacement stereo that might include such a
> thing? A tape player would be preferable to a CD player.
>
Here are the websites for the generic aux-input capable car stereos that
I've found:
www.poweracoustik.com
www.blaupunkt.com
www.audiovox.com
www.panasonic.com
Radio Shack also sells a shaft-mount unit with a front-panel aux in, but
their website doesn't have any info; I saw it in a recent mailer.
Besides Radio Shack, and a couple Audiovox units, you'll have to cut a hole
in your console face to fit the stereo. This isn't that bad if you have a
small rotary tool, a steady hand, and a cutting disc. The Blaupunkt units
have the aux-input in the back which is much nicer for my setup. I have a
Blaupunkt Apsen and a laptop playing MP3s connected to the rear.
Good luck!
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From: "Frank Lommen" <j.m.s.c.lommen@hccnet.nl>
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Hello everyone,
Can anyone give me the E-mail adress to Darryl Tinnerstet from Olympia, WA.
I lost everything
during a HDD Crash.
Thanx
Frenkie
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From: Brian Henderlong <bhenderlong@mindspring.com>
Subject: [DML] Raffled DMC
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:54:29 -0400
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Does anyone know if the DeLorean being raffled off at:
http://www.piusxi.org/DeLorean.html
was actually won? The raffle was supposed to be last
month. It'd be interesting to know who got the car and
how many tickets they bought (i.e., how much they "paid"
for it!). Anybody hear what happened?
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From: Martin Gutkowski <martin.is@connect-2.co.uk>
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Dear Brian,
I have forwarded all the advice people have generously put up on the DML, but
my original post was a couple of weeks after Clare first contacted me due to
the problems with the DML. Unfortunately she hasn't replied - maybe it's
something to do with her term-times (maybe she's gone home to Ireland), but I
will certainly keep you all posted.
I too never saw those pictures, as I think Clare didn't either!
Martin
Brian Henderlong wrote:
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> rioting college students? Has anyone heard from the owner?
>
> I'm curious to know what kind of service his/her insurance company is
> giving, whether there are any more pictures online, and whether any civil
> or criminal suits have been filed.
>
> Just wondering,
>
> Brian Henderlong
> mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com
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From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com>
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as a PS
I've just sent an e-mail to one of the guys in charge of the auction.
I'll pass any info on to the list that I get.
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From: Joe Capasso <capasso@cyberenet.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Raffled DMC
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:37:07 -0500
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I purchased a DeLorean raffle ticket from Chad Sorce. The cost was
$40. My ticket number was 504. At the time, Chad Sorce had said that he
expected to sell at least another 100 tickets. I recently e-mailed him
asking him who won. His response was that he will post the results on the
web page as soon as he recieves permission from the winner to use her name
in public. He said, "All I can tell you right now is the winner came from
Honey Creek Wisc." I doubt the whole thing was a scam, but I do feel that
her name should be posted with a picture of her standing next to her
prize....
Joe
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Henderlong wrote:
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>
> http://www.piusxi.org/DeLorean.html
>
> was actually won? The raffle was supposed to be last
> month. It'd be interesting to know who got the car and
> how many tickets they bought (i.e., how much they "paid"
> for it!). Anybody hear what happened?
>
> Brian Henderlong
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Subject: [DML] Re: Radio inputs
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:48:32 EDT
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I have hooked up a 10 disc CD changer and mounted it on the rear shelf. Hook
up is a snap to the origional radio. Sounds great too. And if I needed to
take it out for origionality, about five minutes.
JimmyC
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From: David Sontos <dsontos@sybercom.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Long Trips
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:59:15 -0400
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Mike,
If your D reaches 220, I bet your fans are NOT coming on. Check your fan diode
located in the relay comparment. My D never gets above 150 on the gage. When it
warms up I can hear the fans cut in and watch the temp gage drop 5-10 degrees
and then they cut out.
Michel Poulin wrote:
> Over the weekend my friend and I put 300 miles on the D. It was a mix of
> city and highway. The D much prefers the highway as aposed to stop and go.
> The water temp would shoot up to 220 in a matter of minuts when we
> started goingfrom stop light to stop light. Once we got moving again, the
> temp would drop below 150 quickly. By design, it's just not ment to sit
> idel.
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ron
I fitted a Sonycdx81 to my Delorean the head unit fitted with no adjustment
and the auto changer fits perfectly under the bonnet (vertical against the
bulk head) the problem I had was the rear speakers .They are so hard to get
too ,and after you do the original Craig ones are such an odd shape! I had to
spend a few weeks making new cradles for them from "Plastimole"
The result though was great and I kept all the old stuff to keep everyone
happy if I ever sell!
Neil in Scotland
Vin 2119
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From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: Raffled DMC
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:05:33 -0400 (EDT)
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I called up their office a day before the rafel and used my credit card
to pay $100 for three tickets. I asked for confermation via e-mail of the
ticket numbers. I neither got confermation, nor have I seen the charge on
my credit card bill. Last I looked, they hadn't updated their web page
with any of the information they stated that they would provide. (reason I
waited so long to get my tickets, I was waiting for the illusive info.)
I too would be interested in finding out the dirt on that car.
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On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Brian Henderlong wrote:
> Does anyone know if the DeLorean being raffled off at:
>
> http://www.piusxi.org/DeLorean.html
>
> was actually won? The raffle was supposed to be last
> month. It'd be interesting to know who got the car and
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From: sundiver@discordia.org
Subject: [DML] Re: Jan. 1st
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:46:38 -0400 (EDT)
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On 26-Apr-99 William T Wilson wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 dtaylor2@neo.rr.com wrote:
>
>> I wanted to know if anyone knows if Y2K will affect the onboard
>> computer in the "D"
>
> I'll go out on a limb here and say that Y2K will affect the onboard
> computer in no or virtually no cars. We had a discussion about this a
> while back and it seems the criteria for a Y2K problem are:
>
> Clock must be installed in system;
> System must care about clock output;
> Clock must be set to valid date.
>
> I don't know whether the DMC-12 computer contains any clocks or not, but
> if it does, you can reset them to 1981 by disconnecting the battery. :}
>
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I was under the impression that the
DeLorean doesn't have any computers as we normally think of them. At
least nothing with a microprocessor and memory. Just some ciruits that
work as parts of feedback loops in the engine control system.
- J
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From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4@osu.edu>
Subject: [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:56:46 -0400
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References: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org> <3.0.1.32.19990426135710.006c311c@pop.mindspring.com> <3724D245.1B600B77@connect-2.co.uk>
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Dear List,
The site where the pictures of the wreck were supposed to be
(http://www.angelfire.com/mi2/delorean/index2.html) was setup weird. I don't
know how they worked it, but when I clicked on the hyperlinked text, all I got
was a blank page. My brother advised me that if I typed in the word
"toolbar.html" over where "index2.html" was in the address that it would then
work, and it did. I then got to the photo gallery page where the pictures were
supposed to be, and they were not there. I asked the owner of that page to send
me a copy of the pix via e-mail, but when he sent them, they arrived in an
unreadable format. The specific error I got was "invalid header". I don't know
what this means, but I know that the picture would not open up.
I got tired of the wild goose chase, so I got on the East Lansing police
station site, and viewed the picture they had of the tragedy. They also included
a copyright notice on the picture, so you'll have to go to that site and check it
out for yourself. I hope my URL listing works! By the way, it's only worth
seeing if you feel like getting really upset over the wanton destruction of the
most fabulous car ever built. (reminiscent of the tragic scene at the end of BTTF
III)
Never-the-less, perhaps viewing it will encourage us all to further understand
the importance of a good safe parking place for our one-of-a-kind cars at all
times. It will have been a total loss only if we fail to learn nothing from it!
http://www.ci.east-lansing.mi.us/Riot/images/1413.jpg
-Josh
VIN 5102
Martin Gutkowski wrote:
> Dear Brian,
>
> I have forwarded all the advice people have generously put up on the DML, but
> my original post was a couple of weeks after Clare first contacted me due to
> the problems with the DML. Unfortunately she hasn't replied - maybe it's
> something to do with her term-times (maybe she's gone home to Ireland), but I
> will certainly keep you all posted.
>
> I too never saw those pictures, as I think Clare didn't either!
>
> Martin
>
> Brian Henderlong wrote:
>
> > Anyone hear anything further about the DeLorean that was turned over by the
> > rioting college students? Has anyone heard from the owner?
> >
> > I'm curious to know what kind of service his/her insurance company is
> > giving, whether there are any more pictures online, and whether any civil
> > or criminal suits have been filed.
> >
> > Just wondering,
> >
> > Brian Henderlong
> > mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com
> > VIN#: working on it...
> >
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Raffled DMC
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:07:28 -0400
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Sounds like this raffle story is getting very interesting. Keep us posted.
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> From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com>
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> Subject: [DML] Re: Raffled DMC
> Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 8:05 PM
>
> I called up their office a day before the rafel and used my credit card
> to pay $100 for three tickets. I asked for confermation via e-mail of the
> ticket numbers. I neither got confermation, nor have I seen the charge on
> my credit card bill. Last I looked, they hadn't updated their web page
> with any of the information they stated that they would provide. (reason
I
> waited so long to get my tickets, I was waiting for the illusive info.)
> I too would be interested in finding out the dirt on that car.
> -=mike=-
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> On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Brian Henderlong wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know if the DeLorean being raffled off at:
> >
> > http://www.piusxi.org/DeLorean.html
> >
> > was actually won? The raffle was supposed to be last
> > month. It'd be interesting to know who got the car and
>
>
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: loose steering
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:33:30 -0400
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Neil,
The fix is to replace the bushing with a new one. To replace it you don't
remove the steering wheel, you remove the steering column.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: NELLYMAC1@aol.com
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> Subject: [DML] Re: loose steering
> Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 10:31 PM
>
> I have the exact opposite ! my steering is really tight and a squeaking
noise
> is louder than the stereo will go! If I point the car round a tight
corner I
> can take my hands of the wheel ,lay down and have a nice cup of tea,
forty
> winks ,read a book and the car still keeps the same track ( a real party
> trick to scare them all ) I know there is a problem but I,m sure its just
the
> bush where the colum goes through the bulk head
> Does anyone know a fix as to be honest the last time I went to tackle the
> problem I spent a few hours without getting the steering wheel off !!
>
> help would be helpful!
> Neil in Scotland
> VIN#2119
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Lo-Jack
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:37:40 -0400
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Installing a Lo-Jack system in a DeLorean is like wearing a parachute on a
major airline. Insurance company statistics indicate that car thieves avoid
exotic cars especially the DeLorean.
The Lo-Jack system is without a doubt the best vehicle recovery system
available, it should be no more difficult to install in a DeLorean than in
any other car, I just don't think it would ever be used.
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> From: Paraversal@aol.com
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> Subject: [DML] Lo-Jack
> Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 10:51 PM
>
> I was just wondering if any owners out there have had the Lo-Jack vehicle
> recovery system installed in their DeLorean, and what the real benefits
of
> the system are. For those of you who are unfamiliar with Lo-Jack, it is
NOT
> an alarm system, but more of a homing device that the police use to track
> stolen cars. If your car is stolen with a Lo-Jack system on board, they
will
> track it and the police will retrieve it. Now honestly I do not like to
> change my DeLorean in the slightest. I really wouldn't want many changes
made
> to the car. Does anyone out there have this installed on their DeLorean?
What
> do you think of it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Curious Justin
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Long Trips
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:04:27 -0400
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Michel,
The problem with your cooling system is air trapped in the coolant lines.
Air bleed the cooling system and your "D" will run nice and cool.
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>
> Michel Poulin wrote:
>
> > Over the weekend my friend and I put 300 miles on the D. It was a mix
of
> > city and highway. The D much prefers the highway as aposed to stop and
go.
> > The water temp would shoot up to 220 in a matter of minuts when we
> > started goingfrom stop light to stop light. Once we got moving again,
the
> > temp would drop below 150 quickly. By design, it's just not ment to sit
> > idel.
> >
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From: MCCOMBC@dteenergy.com
Subject: [DML] Prototype
Date: 27 Apr 99 07:45:17 -0400
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Saw the same "#2 prototype" car at a Detroit auction over the week-end. It
is
the same car
that was purchased by a Detroit car dealer at the Las Vegas auction for
$10,000. It has sliding windows...a differently designed engine
cover...front air intake, etc. Bidding for the car did not meet the reserve
but I noticed from the "still for sale" tag placed on the car after the
bidding had ended that the dealer who owns it is now asking $14,000. Pretty
inexpensive for a major piece of automotive history (I guess I'm biased).
There appeared to be mainly dealers at this auction so they were not
interested in this kind of investment and most of the non-dealer types at
the
auction could have been put off by the ill fitting doors and body panels,
etc.
although the car was drawing a lot of lookers.
Cliff McComb
Detroit, MI
VIN # 11546
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Interesting Clutch Problem
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:21:39 -0400
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Lee,
Concerning owners who say they have no problems with the plastic clutch
line, I present the following challenge.
Drive your "D" for at least one hour during a hot summer day; 95 degrees F
plus. Than enter a big city downtown traffic jam with stop & go traffic for
another hour. If at that point you can shift the car without gear clash or
not being able to shift gears at all, I would be very surprised.
The fact of the matter is that the plastic line will start to expand under
very high heat conditions and constant pedal action.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: Lee <lseiler@radiance.com>
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> Subject: [DML] Re: Interesting Clutch Problem
> Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 12:52 PM
>
> At 01:15 AM 4/26/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >Marc & Lee,
> >Shortly after the DeLorean hit the streets the infamous "plastic clutch
> >line" problems started popping up all over the country. In an effort to
> >correct the problem an adjustable clutch pedal link was manufactured and
> >supplied to dealers for replacement. (Service Bulletin No. ST-07-9/82).
The
> >problem was that in order to compensate for the loss of pedal action the
> >link could be easily over adjusted this caused the master cylinder
plunger
> >to travel too far in the bore causing premature failure of the master
> >cylinder. The adjustable link should only be considered as temporary,
> >replacing the factory plastic line with the stainless braided is the
only
> >way to go.
>
> reply:
>
> Joe,
>
> So if I understand what you are saying, that some D's may have this
> adjustable part and this part can be over adjusted to compensate for loss
> of pedel which will cause the master cylinder to fail.
> Also that the stainless line is the correct and permanent fix for both?
>
> I replaced my plastic line a while back so I expect the new master
> cylinder to last
> for a while. I also note that some owners report no problems in spite of
> the plastic line.
>
> Lee
>
>
>
> Lee
> 81DMC-12
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From: Paraversal@aol.com
Subject: [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:45:05 EDT
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I just wanted to invite everybody to my new page with pics of the turned over
DeLorean that was vandalized during the East Lansing Riot. It is a very
archaic site and I cant promise that all of the pics are working at the
moment, but none-the-less its up. They are there for you to enjoy so please
feel free to stop by. You may visit it at:
http://members.xoom.com/PipelineRecs/dmchome.html
Enjoy,
Justin
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