dmcnews-digest Wednesday, April 7 1999 Volume 03 : Number 501

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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 10:16:31 -0500

From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@lorainccc.edu>

Subject: Re: DML: DMC Model

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In a post entitled "DML: DMC Model," Erik Geerdink said:

Erik, I don’t have that particular serial number myself, but I have to ask . . . how did you resist the subject title:

"Car 54, Where are You?"

I agree that Lee Seiler has done something important for the DeLorean community in producing this limited edition model. I don’t even have mine yet, but I am still grateful to him.

• Mike Substelny

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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 12:58:34 PST

From: "robert parker" <roberthparker@hotmail.com>

Subject: DML: Insurance

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Greetings, DML’ers. When my DMC was new & the primary veh., I chose

full cov. w/Farmers (Liab., Med., Comp.,Coll.,) for a single male <30,

rather than add to the family Allstate policy because it was

cheaper-$600-$620/yr. After 5.5yrs Farmers dropped me because.....it was

a DeLorean!! PTHTHTHTH!! I now have Comp., Actual Cash Value, $5oo

ded. w/Allstate for $176/yr. This incl. a Pref. Driver Disc. In

researching, I found MOST co.s won’t take a DMC as a prim. veh., OR

charg an arm & leg(diff. to drive, then). Thomas Grienpenberg in

Waretown, NJ mentioned he receives an Allstate disc. because of their

R&D invest. The head office here in Tulsa has no inkling. Does anyone

in NJ know a contact person that can provide me w/info.? Would you

believe I am still penalized for being single? Until I’m 50! Being

Scotch, I’m always looking at ways to save $$. Hope this bit of info.

helps someone. I can be reached @ roberthparker@hotmail.com.

Drive Stainless

Robert VIN 6924 Spec. Tag AgBULIT Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Postings to the DELOREAN MAILING LIST are the opinions of the author and not necessarily those of the list moderator or his Internet Service Provider(s). The list moderator makes every effort to screen out false, misleading, and negative postings, but it is up to you to realize that nothing should be taken as actual fact without research and investigation of your own.

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Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 11:38:35 -0400

From: "Raymond McKay" <raymckay@home.net>

Subject: DML: New Owner.... First Problem

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Well I’ve finally gone and done it.... I’ve bought my first Delorean (

pictures at http://24.2.178.159 ). Thanks to the Grady’s for fixing the

Speedo, Tach, and straigtening of the winshield posts!! Of course with

the first Delorean (as with any Delorean for that matter) comes the

first problem. I hope I’m not rehashing something from way back when, I

checked the archives but couldn’t seem to find this specific problem.

Anyways here goes. Though the previous owner had replaced the rack and

pinion steering not too long ago, I find that from center there is about

5 to 10 degrees of play in the wheel before it starts turning the

wheels. To be more specific, for those 5 or 10 degrees it feels like it

is not connected to anything and then you feel it "grab" and steer.

I’ve looked underneath for any blatant problems (ie parts replaced with

rubber bands and loose connections) and found none. Before I start

thinking about investigating deeper, Does anyone out there have a clue

as to where I should start looking?? Thanks

Raymond McKay

Funnybone Interactive

Network Admin/ IT Manager

• A Network is only as good as the Administrator running it.... How’s your network??? -

VIN# 3705

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Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 15:27:51 -0400

From: Richard Strecker <dmc1219@one.net>

Subject: DML: Fan Shroud

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Does anyone have a used (or new) radiator duct #105506 that they would like to part with?

Mine is mostly missing.

Please let me know cost & location.

Thanks,

Richard

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The other day I was filling up my gas tank, I know that DeLorean gas tanks and the devices on fuel pumps are not good bed fellows. So I filled the tank up with what I thought to be the correct amount, i had half a tank so to be safe I added 5 gallons of gas. I left the car to go pay the attendent inside, and when I return a large puddle of gas had formed under my car. Looking under the car I found that there seemed to be a leak under the passenger side seat area. Only a few drops were out of the car so I questioned weather in the span of five minutes if those little drops could have formed such a large puddle. I got the car home and the dripping continued, however there haven’t been any large puddles under the car.

So

I’ve been driving the car (since it is my only form of transportation) and now that I’m down to half a tank again the dripping has stopped. My mechanic is going to be unavailable until Thursday, so i was wondering if there was anyone whould could help shed light on this little enigma.

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Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:06:55 -0400

From: "Matthew Veldhuis" <floridagators@bigfoot.com>

Subject: DML: looking to buy a Delorean

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I’m new to the list and I’m looking to buy a Delorean. I found one nearby where I live but have a few questions. First of all, the frame has a small amount of rust on the underside in the front of the car. Also on the edges of the pans on the underside is a small amount of rust. The fuse box has been upgraded, but the fuse controlling the accessory lighting has melted. What kind of problem could this be? We weren’t able to replace it and try another fuse at the time. The A/C Blower motor needs to be replaced. The fuel gauge indicator is pointing straight up. The right window switch contacts need to be cleaned and the left window jumps when operating it. The driver seat is in bad condition but the rest of the interior is very nice (garaged). There are no dents or dings in the body at all. The engine sounds pretty good, but it has a ticking noise. Is that normal? Also, it seemed to hover up and down about 50-100 rpm at idle.

Can anyone give me an idea of what a good offer for this car would be? Also I’m thinking of using this car as my ‘everyday driver’. Does anyone have any comments on Delorean’s as everyday drivers (ie: insurance nightmares, or maintenence problems) ?? How reliable are these cars as everyday drivers??

Thanks

Matt

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I recently had the hood lift pistons replaced on my ‘81 DMC. The mechanic said that the pistons he used were slightly shorter than the originals he removed. I have noticed recently that the hood is pinching the fascia on the driver’s side everytime I open the luggage compartment. It does not appear to be catching and bending the fascia on the passenger’s side. Is this problem caused by these shorter lift pistons? If not, does anyone have an idea what may be the problem and what solutions are available?

Brian

VIN 1597

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Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:39:14 -0500

From: "Duke" <at88mph@mobis.com>

Subject: DML: Pensacola, FL Car Show April 17^th

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I talked with Scott Mueller this weekend at the Camellia Classic Car Show held in Bellengrath Gardens and he mentioned to me an upcoming British car show coming up April 17^th in Pensacola, Fl. I spoke with Tom Schmitz today and he said that if we could get one more owner, then he would create a class for DeLorean’s. If anyone would like to attend, I’ve updated my webpage for the registration form (under ‘News & Events’) and info about the club as well. Scott has info on his page as well.

The car show this past weekend was great. Congratulations go out to Scott Mueller for his first place win! There were alot of great cars there and this was the best organized car show I’ve been to yet. I will definitely attend next year and encourage all DeLorean owners to try and make this one. It’s really a great event.

Thanks,

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Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:30:19 -0700 (PDT)

From: Lee Desautels <ldesautels@yahoo.com>

Subject: DML: Kinda looks like a DeLorean

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I was looking for some info on the Aston Martin and found this strange

looking vehicle called the Bulldog. It was made in 1980 and looks

somewhat like a Delorean. It even has gull wing doors!

check it out at

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Date: Mon, 5 Apr 99 16:20:36 -0000

From: James Espey <espey@dmcnews.com>

Subject: DML: [admin] Missing digests, male sex secrets and more!

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The bumpy transition period for the DeLorean Mailing List appears to over. Casualties included digests #497 through #499. I believe only about a dozen people got those and I am trying to get copies of them myself to re-post the pertinent messages to the list.

During the period in which those digest were generated, a few messages got through unmoderated - including one offering a book on "Male Sexual Secrets". If you one of the dozen or so that receive this message and were offended by it - I apologize, it’s for that very reason the DeLorean Mailing List is a moderated list. If you’re interested in the "Male Sexual Secrets" book, for yourself or to give as a gift, I’m afraid I can’t help you.

I am still doing a bit of tuning on the list to make it easier to read (ie - no more disclaimer at the end of each message), and appreciate the kind, encouraging words from those of you that sent them to me. Those of you that had complaints, particularly those of you that used profanity to make your point, please join the AMC Pacer Mailing List.

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_SUBJECTS_ Idle speed regulator.

Our DeLorean had some unregular behaviour when idling. The RPM shoot up to 2000-3000 whithout touching the throttle. I checked all the wirering and found some connector pins that where pushed back (somebody else on the list had already mentioned this particular problem). After repairing the connector the problem seamed to be solved (I havn’t taken the car for a ride so I am not sure jet, but in the garage it looked fine). However I noticed that the idle-speed regulator is always making a humming noise and is vibrating when the contact key is in running mode. It did so before and after I repaired the connector. Is this normal ?

Different GRP moulds ?

I happend to see a ‘83 DeLorean this weekend, and I noticed a difference to our ‘81 model which I didn’t know of. The GRP body around the engine compartment on our ‘81 model (VIN 01095) has a fine textured surface on the part around the engine cover. You can see the texture through the rear windows. The textur consists of a grid of small bubbles about 1 mm in diameter. The ‘83 model I saw had no texture at al. The GRP surface was just flat. This indicates the use of different moulds. I guess that there have been multiple GRP moulds to keep up with the production of about 40 cars a day somewhere in autumn ‘81. I can imagine that the textured surface might have been discontinued to cut down the costs of the moulds. Of course this is just guessing. Does anybody know something about this or of other differences in the GRP-body’s ?

RPM relay

I have a defunct tachometer. According to the wirering diagram the meter is connected to the RPM relay behind the passenger seat. What does this relay do, and how can I test it ?

John

VIN 01095

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I have decided to sell my 1981 DeLorean DMC-12. It is a late May 1981 model (VIN #01529) with black leather interior, 5-speed manual transmission and approximately 37,000 miles. I used the car as a daily driver for 2 ½ years until purchasing a new car last November.

This DeLorean has the grooves in the hood, fuel flap door and locking gas cap, but the windshield with the radio antenna was replaced with a later OEM windshield two years ago after a rock cracked it. The car is not a concours original in any way - it was painted red by a previous owner, and I have installed an alarm, Alpine CD stereo, Centerforce clutch and 140+ amp alternator. Previous owners also added a rear spoiler, brushed aluminum wheels and lowered the suspension a bit.

The car has proved itself to me to be a fairly solid everyday driver when maintained properly. I had planned to garage it for two years and do a complete frame-off restoration that would include stripping the paint and rebrushing the car. However, the demands on my time and my career goals have forced me to rethink this. If the car was restored the way I wanted it would be worth $24,000.

The car does run now, but it needs a new water pump and possibly a new brake master cylinder before I would consider it safe to drive regularly again. In it’s present state I am asking $11,500, but will consider reasonable offers.

If interested contact me via email (DeLorean2C@aol.com) with your questions and I will provide more info and history on the car. I can also be reached at home evenings and weekends at 573-886-7695.

Thank you!

Chase Clark

Columbia, Missouri

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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 99 15:29:44 EDT

From: L Sandel <34NPJUB@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>

Subject: DML: Appearance of engine area...

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Does anybody know of any way to clean up the appearance of the area around the engine compartment? What I’m specifically referring to is the black fiberglass (?) area below the quarter panel glass (the rear pontoons?). Mine are a bit faded and scratched; I don’t care about the faded part as much as I care about the scratches. Is there any safe method to buff out the scratches? I would just paint the area, but it looks like it would be a pain to get a even coverage with the way it curves downwards, and with the close proximity to the quarter panel and glass. I thought about just using a buffing compound, but it looks like it would get embedded into the porus surface and never come out.

Thanks for any input,

Luke

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