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Sunday, August 3 1997 Volume 02 : Number 265
In this issue:
Re: DML: Automatic Doors
DML: Alignment
DML: Tyres
DML: DMC T-Shirts?
DML: Top Speed
Re: DML: Tyres
DML: RE: Delorean Movie
Re: DML: Top Speed
DML: Two sources of DMC T-shirts
Re: DML: Tilt wheel?
DML: Legend Industries
DML: Another DOA editorial
Re: DML: DMC T-Shirts?
DML: Re: Picure of a fuel flap hood
DML: Auto DMC12 for sale spotted in Austria !
DML: DeLorean Calendars
DML: Eastern Regional Run 7
DML: Door Radius
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:14:56 -0500
From: Bill Marcussen
Subject: Re: DML: Automatic Doors
Daniel McGauley wrote:
> Does anyone know anything about remote door openers for the DeLorean?
>
> -Daniel McGauley
Darryl Tinnerstet (Specialty Automotive) put together a detailed
procedure for adding a remote control feature to the door locks. You
can reach him at 360/786-0243
Bill
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:14:37 +0000
From: James Nichols
Subject: DML: Alignment
Chase Clark wrote:
I noticed that my front tires are not in agreement with each other. When
the driver's side tire is facing straight forward, the passenger side
one if turning slightly outwards.=20
The old way of measuring toe-in was to measure the distance between the
front of the tires and the distance between the back of the tires and
compare the two measurments. Now it is done with lights and mirrors.=20
You can make a rough measurment with a level and a tape and mark and
measure your garage floor. If you drop a vertical from the front and
back of each tire to the garage floor, (use the same tread groove) and
mark the floor, you can compare the measurements between the front and
back of each wheel
Enlcosed is a service bulletin to cover allignment. There was a later
one, #ST-34-1-82 but somehow I ended up with only one page of that and
it is the same as page three of this one.
As you can see from the specs, your front wheels should be toed-in 3mm
or 0.12in-- about 1/8 inch for each front wheel which will give you a
distance of almost a half inch less in the front than in the back. =20
Jim
Bulletin ST-34-1/82
Attachment - Page 1 of 3
1. Check front wheels for rim run out. Maximum tolerance is .406 mm
(.016 inch).
2. Check tire pressures. See specifications.
3. Check and ensure no abnormal wear in steering joints/suspension.
4. Place vehicle on flat surface.
5. Check and, if necessary, adjust setting height 140 mm (5.5 inches).=20
Figure l.
This measurement must be taken from the center of the front
crossmember.
NOTE: It may be necessary to lift the front of the vehicle or load the
luggage compartment to obtain the specified setting height.
FIGURE 1;
6. Proceed with wheel alignment per the directions of the manufacturer
of the
alignment equipment used.
NOTE: Where equipment directions indicate to jounce the suspension,
substitute
with, check and ensure specified setting height is maintained.
Alignment Specifications - Front
Toe-In 3 mm (0.12 inch) per wheel
Caster Angle 3-1/2=B0 to 4=B0 positive non-adjustable
Camber Angle 0=B0 to 1/2=B0 Negative
King Pin Inclination 6=B0 + 1/2=B0 - 0=B0 non-adjustable
NOTE: If caster, camber and king pin inclination do not fall within the
specified tolerances, check suspension components for damage.
=0C
Adjusting Toe-In
Loosen clamp securing steering rack boot to the tie-rod.
Holding tie-rod end "A" firmly with wrench, unlock locknut "B".
Using vise grips, rotate steering rod "C" to obtain specified
adjustment. FIGURE 2
NOTE: It is important to adjustboth sides equally ensuring that the
same number of threads are exposed.
Torque the tie rod lock nuts to 36 NM (26 ft lbs. ) .
Retighten boot clamp.
Alignment - Rear Wheels
Follow Steps 1 through 4 of Front Wheel Alignment procedures.
5. Check and, if necessary, adjust setting height 140 mm (5.5 inches)
at the center of the engine support cross member (See Fig. 3).
NOTE: It may be necessary to lift the rear of the vehicle or load the
vehiclc to obtain the specified setting height.
FiGURE 3
6. Proceed with wheel alignment per directions of manufacturers of
alignment equipment used.
NOTE: Where equipment directions indicate to jounce the suspension,
substitute with, and ensure specified setting height is maintained.
=0C
Bulletin ST-34-12/81.
Attachment - Page 3 of 3
Allignment Specifications - Rear
Toe-In 3 mm (0.12 inch) per wheel
Camber 1/4=B0 to 3/4=B0 negative and non-adjustable
NOTE: If camber specifications do not fall within the specified
tolerance, check for damaged suspension components.
Adjusting Toe-In
1 Remove trailing arm shields.
2. Loosen trailing arm pivot bolt "A". FIGURE 4.
3. Remove or add the required amount of shims (Part No. 106680) to
obtain the specified tolerance.
NOTE: 1 shim =3D 1.1=B0 (1/16 inch)
i Torque trailing arm pivot bolt "A" to 75 NM (55 ft. lbs.). (See Fig.
4)
Check adjustment.
FIGURE 4.
Conversion Table
Fractional Inches/Delimal Degrees
1/32 =3D .06=B0
1/16 =3D .13=B0
3/32 =3D .19=B0
1/8 =3D .26=B0
5/32 =3D .32=B0
3/16 =3D .38=B0
7/32 =3D .45=B0
1/4 =3D .51=B0
9/32 =3D .58=B0
5/16 =3D .64=B0
11/32=3D .70=B0
3/8 =3D .77=B0
13/32=3D .83=B0
7/16 =3D .90=B0
15/32=3D .96=B0
1/2 =3D 1.02=B0
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:26:53 +0000
From: James Nichols
Subject: DML: Tyres
Has anyone tried Goodyear tires of the correct size? I understand why
the 205/60-HR14 would rub when the wheels were turned to the lock
because the front end was designed for the 195/60-HR14.
Jim
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:41:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Charles Goldfischer
Subject: DML: DMC T-Shirts?
Does anyone know a place (Web Address or Snail-Mail Address) where one
could
purchase a DMC-related T-shirt, or other DMC clothing items?
Thanks... :)
- - a49erfan
- - VIN #We'll find out in 7 years :)
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:38:22 -0700
From: Scott Mueller
Subject: DML: Top Speed
>Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:36:35 -0400 (EDT)
>From: DeloreanGY@aol.com
>Subject: DML: Speed
>i have had a little contraversy on the speed of a delorean. What is the
>actual top speed of one? I have heard 109 and i say 130. Is the v6
really
>that weak that it will only go 109?
When my DeLorean was new, my Father and I had it to 140 MPH. We had to
use the tachometer to determine the speed. We were on I-5 going from
S.F. to Portland. The car handled well, but was underpowered. Any
grade would slow the vehicle down.
Scott Mueller
Vin #002981
1981 5 speed
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1986 03:26:45 -0700
From: Lee Seiler
Subject: Re: DML: Tyres
At 03:26 PM 7/30/97 +0000, you wrote:
>Has anyone tried Goodyear tires of the correct size? I understand why
>the 205/60-HR14 would rub when the wheels were turned to the lock
>because the front end was designed for the 195/60-HR14.
>
>Jim
>
>
reply:
Hi Jim and all,
When I took delivery of my 81 stock DMC-12 #5729 it had the
original tires, I replaced them with Goodyear tires of the correct size
and
type. They work great. I have had no problems what ever.
comment: I know that the DMC in stock set up is not a competition
machine, but I can say that on a weekend "drive" I as able to shame
a vett and 911 in a hill climb on Mt St. Helena "in Calif" with out
a bit of trouble. Both other drivers were just moving sunday road hazards
so I would say it was an even skill match at the start. My DMC-12
never demonstrated any thing but what was expected. Handeled very well
with plenty of power in the curves, as long as the RPM were kept high.
Hope this helped you some
Lee
VIN#5729
lee@ccnet.com
Tel: (510) 649-9118 Fax: (510) 848-7613
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 02:45:46 -0400
From: "Misha A. Weitzner"
Subject: DML: RE: Delorean Movie
For all interested,
A few days ago I put up a post about a movie featuring a red
Delorean will be on Cinemax and Cinemax2 next month. Here is more info
on it (as shown in my TV Guide):
Malibu Express (1985) * Darby Hinton,
Sybil Danning. An Amateur Texas gum-
shoe, hired by the government, pursues
computer spies and California beauties.
R(Nudity, Strong Sexual Content,
Adult Language) [1hr41min] CC
My review of the film:
This film is the usual corny adult
themes movie from the 80's. Yet, the girls look good and the Delorean
looks even better. Although I prefer the original stainless steel this
one is a red painted Delorean.
Times it will be airing:
Cinemax: Aug 5 @ 1:20am/est.
Cinemax 2: Aug 14 @ 10:45pm/est.
Aug 24 @ 2:15am/est.
Aug 30 @ 12:30am/est
I am not sure if this movie will be airing beyond august, but I
figure that you can watch it on the fifth of august and if you like it
enough you still have many chances to tape it.
Very Truly Yours,
Misha Weitzner
P.S. I am 99% sure this is the same
movie that I saw 6 months ago, but if I am wrong, and it ends up being
something else please forgive me.
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1986 03:32:51 -0700
From: Lee Seiler
Subject: Re: DML: Top Speed
At 06:38 PM 7/30/97 -0700, you wrote:
>>Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:36:35 -0400 (EDT)
>>From: DeloreanGY@aol.com
>>Subject: DML: Speed
>
>>i have had a little contraversy on the speed of a delorean. What is the
>>actual top speed of one? I have heard 109 and i say 130. Is the v6
>really
>>that weak that it will only go 109?
>
>When my DeLorean was new, my Father and I had it to 140 MPH. We had to
>use the tachometer to determine the speed. We were on I-5 going from
>S.F. to Portland. The car handled well, but was underpowered. Any
>grade would slow the vehicle down.
>
>Scott Mueller
>Vin #002981
>1981 5 speed
>
AS mentioned here befor I have an 81-DMC-12 VIN 5729 100% stock and
driven
daily to and from work. It has 24,124.00 original miles and is maintained
in a "former" Delorean official service auto repair shop. The car was
clocked by CHP on I 5 at an official 141.945. with me two people.
note I did not get a ticket!
hope this helps
Lee
Vin#5729
lee@ccnet.com
Tel: (510) 649-9118 Fax: (510) 848-7613
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:43:47 -0400
From: Mike Substelny
Subject: DML: Two sources of DMC T-shirts
Charles Goldfischer said:
> Does anyone know a place (Web Address or Snail-Mail
> Address) where one could purchase a DMC-related
> T-shirt, or other DMC clothing items?
Sure. There are clothes on the web at the DOA website:
http://www.delorean-owners.org/index.html
Currently the DOA site is under rennovation, but you can still
see a list of DeLorean-related goodies if you click on "View
Catalog." The DOA has sold me a couple of my favorite
T-shirts, and they recently came out with some new ones
that are quite colorful. Check out the Internet Special while
you are there.
DMC Houston also has some great stuff, but it is not on the
Web at this time. IMHO their grey banlon shirt is very sharp.
List moderator James Espey can also attest to their fine
DMC undergarments (boxers) that were so chic at Nashville
last year . . .
I think there are others from DeLorean One, PJ Grady, etc,
but I can't remember exactly off the top of my head. DMC
Houston's phone number is:
1-800-USA-DMC1
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 07:59:20 -0400
From: "Marc Levy"
Subject: Re: DML: Tilt wheel?
TREKFANNJ@aol.com writes:
>Were any D's produced with the tilt wheel option? I know that some cars
in
That's funny that you should ask that. When I was shopping for D's a few
years back, the first car I test drove had the steering wheel low, and I
was not comfortable. I pulled to the side, and reached under the steering
column, loosened the clamp, and lifted the wheel!! The owner of the car
looked at me and said "Wow! I have had the car for 4 years and never knew
I
could do that! No wonder I was so uncomfortable!"
I ended up buying a different car, and mine also has a tilt wheel. I
assumed all did!
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:14:13 -0400
From: "Marc Levy"
Subject: DML: Legend Industries
Bob Lee Wirtes:
> However, when I was the Design Engineer at
>Legend Industries working on the Twin Turbo system,
Wow!! A Legend Engineer! Hope you dont mine if I (we) leech infomation
from you on occasion.
Do you have any leftover goodies in your garage?
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:56:56 -0400
From: Mike Substelny
Subject: DML: Another DOA editorial
When I saw the "My Hassle with the DOA" message appear
on the DML, I was certain that my E-mail box would
immediately fill up with comments from other subscribers all
over. To my surprise there has been not one single reply!
The message was worded as an editorial, and since
everyone is entitled to an opinion I do not expect anyone to
argue with it.
My own personal opinion is that the DOA is a fun
organization that serves a purpose. The annual DOA Expo
has long been the definitive DeLorean social event of the
year, and DeLorean World is the most popular DeLorean
publication there is. The DOA also provides the best
communication link between DeLorean parts vendors / car
retailers and the general public in the world today.
James' editorial does make some points that I hope the DOA
Board will consider. For example, I would certainly find a
membership manual useful, and I miss the old regional
chapter system already.
As an Industrial Engineer I view these issues from a TQM
(Total Quality Management) point of view . Like any other
business, if the DOA wants to increase its market share it
needs to listen to the voice of its customers and potential
customers, then be prepared to constantly change to please
them. Some customers will always want the impossible,
and the business must find an equilibrium point. There is
nothing unusual about this, successful businesses do it
every day.
The DOA really pleased me recently when they enclosed a
survey in DeLorean World which asked about members'
desires for a "Run What You Brung" event. This is a good
way for the DOA to obtain the voice of its customers. If they
conduct periodic surveys about other issues (and act on the
data), I guarantee the DOA will increase its market share. (If
Ray Haug is reading this: consider putting membership
surveys on the DOA website. Surveys which require postage
for return mail get notoriously small responses).
Still, the DOA is the DOA, and the organization I joined is
the organization I have. As long as they hold a high-quality
Expo and publish a magazine with beautiful DeLorean
pictures, I will gladly maintain my membership.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 13:54:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Magicshow@aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: DMC T-Shirts?
DeLorean One has shirts that show a side view with "DeLorean" written
underneath in the actual font
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:26:08 -0400
From: "Michael C. Babb, MCSE"
Subject: DML: Re: Picure of a fuel flap hood
I have a fairly good picture of a DeLorean with the hood flap. check out
http://comp170.cditrain.com/delorean click on the pictures button and then
on the "other pictures I have collected" there is a link to DMC005 bdown
towards the bottom.
Michael C. Babb, MCSE
Computer Decisions, Inc
919.460.0071
michael@cditrain.com
mikebabb@vnet.net
- -----Original Message-----
From: Brandon S. Moody
To: DMC List
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 1997 9:16 AM
Subject: DML: Picure of a fuel flap hood
>Has anyone ever saw a picture on the web
>of a Car with the fuel filler flap on the hood ?
>I have never seen a car with this feature and
>was just curious to see what it looks like.
>
>-Brandon
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 19:41:11 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Nikki Schumann
Subject: DML: Auto DMC12 for sale spotted in Austria !
Hello DML'ers,
Last week I was driving an old Volvo from Northern Italy to Berlin and
whilst in Austria I noticed a Delorean in a second hand dealer's parking
lot. It was for sale at 450.000 Austrian Shillings (about 34500 US$) which
seemes quite expensive considering it is far from being in concours
condition.
Sticker says it's an 81 model. It has an automatic gearbox and 22000 miles
recorded on the clock. I believe this could be true milage since it's
sitting on what seem to be the original Good Year tires with quite good
thread still available. Also I noticed that it had gone through some minor
accident at the front since the fascia was bent in and upwards at the
centre. The interior (black) was not in great a shape either, with
sun-cracked leather all over. The tachometer was stuck (ignition off) at
the
6000 RPM mark.
I was so excited that I was looking at a Delorean (they're a real rarity
on
European roads) that I forgot to do essential things like taking down the
number of the dealer or the VIN from the windscreen (sorry James).
However,
I really don't think that this car could have been a bargain. If anyone is
near Austria and would like to take the opportunity to see this Delorean
they can contact me and I can provide instructions on finding it. I
suspect
it has been and will be at this location for a while, considering its
price
and condition.
Nikki Schumann.
- --------------------------------------------------
Nikki Schumann --- mail: Nikki.Schumann@wanadoo.fr
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/nikki.schumann/WELCOME.HTM
- --------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:54:41 -0700
From: "."
Subject: DML: DeLorean Calendars
Is there a 1998 Delorean Calendar available? If not, how many would be
interested in one?
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:31:50 -0400
From: Aldo.Buono@phila.gov
Subject: DML: Eastern Regional Run 7
EASTERN REGIONAL RUN 7
RICHMOND VIRGINIA USA
SEPTEMBER 13 AND 14, 1997
Every year, the independent De Lorean owners clubs of the Eastern
United States of America hold an annual convention for owners and
enthusiasts. This year's run is hosted by De Lorean Virginia.
Run 7 is being held in conjunction with the annual Richmond British
Car Days, and will include a rally, car show, and party.
The host hotel is the Airport Hilton in Richmond, Virginia.
The car show is at the Berkeley Plantation in Charles City, Virginia.
The party is at the Virginia Aviation Museum.
Activities and lodging are priced a la carte.
Online Information: www.DMC12.com
Registration form and questions: ADURICK.MG@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
Early registration deadline: September 1, 1997
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 20:19:21 -0700
From: Tyler
Subject: DML: Door Radius
I never needed to deal with a Delorean around a parking lot, and I
was wondering how does the opening of doors conflict with other cars
around you?
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