Saturday, August 1 1998 Volume 03 : Number 394
In this issue:
DML: Re: Re: Stainless Steel Louvers
Re: DML: Cooling Fans
Re: DML: dmc...clock
DML: RE: Cooling Fans
DML: stainless steel louvers?
Re: DML: dmc...clock
DML: Re: Battery
DML: JZD in Old Cars Weekly
DML: Strange Electrical Problems
DML: Re: Cooling Fans
DML: wood grain dash board
Re: DML: Re: Battery
DML: RE: Cooling Fans
DML: Re: Strange Electrical Problems
DML: Fuel Pickup Problems ...
DML: Re: Strange Electrical Problems (me too!!)
DML: Dick Ryan (Raddad) and his Cross Ciuntry Bike Ride (UPDATE)
Re: DML: Dick Ryan (Raddad) and his Cross Country Bike Ride
Re: DML: UPDATE ON DICK RYAN'S (RADDAD) BIKE RIDE
DML: Re: found one
Re: DML: RE: Cooling Fans
DML: Re: Re: Cooling Fans
Re: DML: Re: Strange Electrical Problems (me too!!)
DML: Wheel Balancing
Re: DML: On Board Battery Charger
Re: DML: Wheel Balancing
DML: To Owners in HAWAII
DML: re: On Board Battery Charger
DML: Re: Wheel Balancing
DML: Re: Re: Strange Electrical Problems (me too!!)
RE: DML: On Board Battery Charger
DML: Re: Wheel Balancing
DML: Gray Leather Pull Straps For Sale
DML: Painting the dash?
DML: Dash removal
DML: RE: Painting the dash?
DML: Swap DeLorean project
DML: VIN Question
Re: DML: Painting the dash?
DML: parts reference guide
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:43:04 -0700 From: "Dave Price" <davep(AT)humanmachine.com> Subject: DML: Re: Re: Stainless Steel Louvers
>Jason, >The name of the company was or is McCune Technology Inc., Fayetteville >Steel PO Box 53834, Fayetteville, NC 28305 Tel. 919 424-2978. The last >information I have on them is an ad they ran in DeLorean World in 1988, I >do not know if they are still in business or not. >Joe/DeLorean Services >
Sure enough, they're still around, here is there new info:
http://www.fayettevillenc.com/McCune/ Phone: 910-424-2978 / 800-MCCUNE-1 Fax: 910-424-1131 email: mccune(AT)fayettevillenc.com Cumberland County Industrial Center, Fayetteville NC 28305
I sent an email inquiring about the louvers, however, on thier site there was mention about custom work for individuals (i.e. small/limited run or one-offs for the "little guy") so even if they don't have any left or make them anymore, I'm sure they'd still be into making a run of them for some of us...
I'll keep the list posted on what I find out.
- - Dave
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:44:01 -0500 From: Duke <at88mph(AT)mobis.com> Subject: Re: DML: Cooling Fans
Dave,
Could you give a little more info. I'm guessing that you mean when the fans come on to cool the engine that they never shut off. First off, is the temp getting back down to 165 degrees?? If not, the fans won't shut off. You may have some air trapped in the system so you may want to try to bleed it out. Also, if the A/C is on, they will run all the time as well.
If this dosen't help, please let me know,
Thanks,
Duke PS Take the gun out of your mouth, point it at the DeLorean and your pockets will fill back up.
FerrisBuh(AT)aol.com wrote:
> I CANNOT GET THE FANS TO SHUT OFF ONCE THEY COME ON! > Anyone? > > Gun in my mouth, pockets empty > Dave > #5252 > Lic. INSECUR
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:47:23 -0500 From: Duke <at88mph(AT)mobis.com> Subject: Re: DML: dmc...clock
James,
Right under the time, you'll see two little holes. One is for the hour, and one is for the minute. Get a paper clip and insert the end of the paper clip into the hole and hold it down. That will change the time.
Hope this helps,
Duke
WtrResQ(AT)aol.com wrote:
> ive only had my "D" for about a month and a half. ive figured out the > radio > presets, but can anyone plz help me set the time.....thx > > james
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 16:26:49 -0400 From: "Richard" <dmc1219(AT)one.net> Subject: DML: RE: Cooling Fans
There is a diode in the circuit that allows the fans to operate when the AC is on, this overrides the temp switch. Try turning off the AC, the fans should cycle with the temp switch.
Richard
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 18:21:12 -0400 From: "Stephen E. Klein" <klein98(AT)email.msn.com> Subject: DML: stainless steel louvers?
Were there really stainless louvers and engine covers? If so how much were they and where could I find them? Does this mean never having to put grease on the black to make it actually look black instead of chalky white? I cannot wait.
- -Stephen E. Klein
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 17:33:53 -0600 From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols(AT)earthlink.net> Subject: Re: DML: dmc...clock
WtrResQ(AT)aol.com wrote:
> ive only had my "D" for about a month and a half. ive figured out the > radio > presets, but can anyone plz help me set the time.....thx > > james
James, Under the numbers should be two flush pins with indentations. The one on the left set hours, the one on the right sets minutes. If you have just holes there, the circuit board has dropped down and let the pins fall into the clock. Below the pins are surface mount switches on the board and if the pins have dropped out, or are not aligned and do not change the numbers when you push them, you will have to take the clock apart to reset them. Its not difficult, but I can't remember whether I had to epoxy or solder the board back into position. Jim #6884
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 16:31:21 -0700 From: Matt Peak <mpeak(AT)ucla.edu> Subject: DML: Re: Battery
Nick,
To add to what Joe has already said, the voltage regulator on the alternator senses the car's electrical needs by reading the voltage at the battery posts. If the battery is removed, the regulator thinks the car is gulping all the amps it can and is craving an infinitesimal amount. The alternator pumps out the most amps it can and electrical components on the car are damaged: headlights explode, radios burnout, and sensitive electrical equipment (such as onboard computers) are damaged. You may not have had a problem before you disconnected the battery, but, depending on how long it was disconnected for, you may have very serious problems now.
Matt Peak
>Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 15:09:04 EDT >From: NJP548(AT)aol.com >Subject: DML: Battery > >Dear List: > > When I had my car running today I decided to see what would happen if >I >disconnected my battery. When I disconnected it, my RPMs went crazy and >my >low voltage light was flashing on my instrument panel. Does this mean I >have >a problem with my alternator? Any help would be greatly appreciated. >Thanks > >Nick >VIN#1852 >
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 19:17:41 -0700 From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf(AT)bmi.net> Subject: DML: JZD in Old Cars Weekly
Article in the newest Old Cars Weekly re "Bunkie Knudsen taking over = Pontiac Motor Division in 1957. Short paragraph says: "In the '60s, = another Pontiac performance-and-marketing genius - John Z. DeLorean - = came on the scene. However that is a story unto itself".
Murray=20 Vin 05962 Lic DMC-XII
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 22:44:18 -0500 From: Duke <at88mph(AT)mobis.com> Subject: DML: Strange Electrical Problems
Today when I got home, I shut my car off for about 15-25 seconds and = realized I needed to go somewhere else, so I put the key back in the = ignition and went to start it and the car freaked out. It acted like = the battery was weak (which I know it wasn't) and it tried to slowly = turn over, but then it stopped trying to crank (it gave me that nice, = dead battery 'rurr, rurr) while my needle on my RPM gauge spun around. = I also heard the usual clicking noises from the relay compartment. I = turned the key back and tried it a second time and it did the same thing = again. Then I tried it a third time and it started right up.??!!?? = I've had the spinning RPM problem when I've had a almost dead battery = before, but never when its fully charged. I have a good starter and = alternator so I'm guessing its electrical. One other problem that I have = which I wouldn't think would be related, is that I have a lose wire = somewhere under the dash. Every so often, my headlights, (bright or dim = or neither) turn signal (right side only) and horn will stop working, = but if I shake the wires under the steering wheel, they start working = again. I'll be checking this tomorrow to find the cause.=20
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 21:57:49 -0700 From: "Tito A. Lugtu" <TALugtu(AT)planeteria.net> Subject: DML: Re: Cooling Fans
Dave
The switch for the cooling fans are directly connected to the temp sensor ... try disconnecting the terminal of temp sensor ... then connect it to ground ... the fans should turn on ... then remove from ground ... the fans should turn-off ... if not, replace the relay going directly to fans ...
tito - -----Original Message----- From: FerrisBuh(AT)aol.com <FerrisBuh(AT)aol.com> To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com <dmcnews(AT)world.std.com> Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1998 12:20 PM Subject: DML: Cooling Fans
>Hey everyone, > >See if anyone here can determine this one: I have two new Bosch cooling fans. >They work well. The pressure in the cooling sstem is a perfect 15 lbs. and >holding. However, for the life of me, even with a day old cooling fan sending >switch and seal, I CANNOT GET THE FANS TO SHUT OFF ONCE THEY COME ON! >Anyone? > >Gun in my mouth, pockets empty >Dave >#5252 >Lic. INSECUR
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:51:25 +0000 From: Bob Brandys <oehcs(AT)flash.net> Subject: DML: wood grain dash board
I also remember the burl wood dash board accessory. I have never seen it on a D yet.
However, at the British car show here in Illinois, there was a vendor that made these dashboards for virtually all the British cars.
I asked him if he could make one for a D and he said it was not a problem as long as we give him the dimensions and shape. He price was around 400.00 just like it was 10 years ago.
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:55:06 -0600 From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols(AT)earthlink.net> Subject: Re: DML: Re: Battery
Matt Peak wrote:
> Nick, > > snip---The alternator pumps out the most amps it can and electrical > components on the > car are damaged: headlights explode, radios burnout, and sensitive > electrical equipment (such as onboard computers) are damaged. You may not > have had a problem before you disconnected the battery, but, depending on > how long it was disconnected for, you may have very serious problems now. > > Matt Peak >
I don't think so! Without the battery, the alternator puts out 14.4 volts at whatever current is required to keep the system at 14.4 volts---except it is pulsating DC, not filtered. The alternator is actually a three phase AC generator with diodes and a voltage regulator ot produce pulsating DC at 14.4 volts at a frequency of three times its rotation rate. Headlights will work normally, the radio will whine, and the computer controlled equipment will go wild because it senses varying voltages. The battery acts as a buffer to absorb the peaks and fill in between the peaks to give a smooth, non rippling voltage. Jim #6884
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 08:01:44 -0700 From: "Grimsrud, Knut S" <knut.s.grimsrud(AT)intel.com> Subject: DML: RE: Cooling Fans
FerrisBuh(AT)aol.com wrote:
> ... I have two new Bosch cooling fans. They work well. The pressure > in the cooling sstem is a perfect 15 lbs. and holding. However, for > the life of me, even with a day old cooling fan sending switch and > seal, I CANNOT GET THE FANS TO SHUT OFF ONCE THEY COME ON!
I have a similar problem that arose after replacing my thermostat. In my case the fans will shut off, but just barely. I believe that in my case the condition is caused by the following factors:
The thermal switch in the coolant pipe that controls the cooling fans has some built in hysteresis -- that is, when the thermal switch closes, it remains closed until the sensed temperature is a bit below what it was when it first closed. In my case the switch closes and activates the fans about one needle-width above the 160 degree mark on the temp gauge and remains closed until the gauge needle is right at the 160 degree mark (I don't know that the mark is actually at 160 degrees, but its the unlabeled mark on the gauge that's halfway between 100 and 220).
My new thermostat seems to have a slightly higher temperature setpoint than my previous one and seems to like to keep the temperature at, or very slightly above, the 160 degree mark on the temp gauge (my old thermostat seemed to hold the temperature about a needlewidth below the 160 degree mark). These two factors combine to create the following scenario: when the cooling fans kick on, they will stay on until the temperature dips low enough for the hysteresis in the switch to kick it off, but my thermostat setpoint is high enough that although the temperature comes down it won't come down low enough for the thermal switch to kick off (or in my case the thermostat allows the temperature to just barely dip low enough to satisfy the thermal switch).
I don't know if you have a similar scenario, but in my case I believe the solution is to get a thermostat with a slightly lower setpoint such that the temperature can come down enough to reliably have the cooling fans disengage. Your mileage may vary.
Knut Grimsrud DeLorean Club of Oregon
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:02:46 -0400 From: "Joe " <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Strange Electrical Problems
Duke, Sounds like a bad battery to chassis ground or a bad battery cell. Depending on you Vin. your main battery ground is either at the right rear trailing arm bushing or the right rear (gray) chassis rail below the "jump start post" in the engine compartment. To check your battery go to any service facility and ask them to do a "load test" on the battery. The loose wire under your dash is not the cause of your problem. Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: 30 Jul 1998 12:17:03 -0500 From: "Kemp, Nick (MN10) 001" <Nick.Kemp(AT)HBC.honeywell.com> Subject: DML: Fuel Pickup Problems ...
About a year ago, I ran a question regarding a perplexing problem. The car killed as I let the clutch up going forward and it ran fine in reverse. A couple people responded that I should check the fuel pick-up. What I found was that the fuel pick-up was broken at the pump fitting. I cut it off and reassembled. To my dismay, the problem did not go away. After discussing with Joe, I rechecked and found the same problem. This time I made some modifications until I can order the replacement parts.
In my case, there is no baffle, the in-tank mounting stud is gone and the pickup is weighted down with lead strips. My guess is that the mass of the strips caused the hose to open going forward, causing the gas flow to stop, and going in reverse it would push it tight enough to allow gas flow.
A lot of people ask about mysterious engine stopping. Take a look at your fuel pickup arrangement. You may be surprised at what you find. When my car killed, it simply and quietly died. No noise or other warning. It wasn't until I talked with Joe that I realized that there was supposed to be a mounting stud for a baffle and this would have kept the pickup from "swinging" around the tank. It probably would have help the original hose last longer also.
The temporary fix has the pickup straight down from the pump on new hose with a plastic container as a fuel baffle. The disadvantage of this is that I may not have the pickup on the tank bottom, limiting the "range" of the tank. I thought I read that someone else has had to do the same but I cannot find it in the back issues. Can someone forward that listing?
The replacement hose (1/2 inch gas line) is SUBSTANTIALLY sturdier than the original but it does not have the bends that the original has. If I create a custom long term solution I'll keep you informed.
Thanks to those who originally pointed me towards the gas tank!!!
Nicholas Kemp
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:01:05 -0400 From: "yugoman" <mdrig(AT)email.msn.com> Subject: DML: Re: Strange Electrical Problems (me too!!)
My car has a mind of its own too! Took it on my first long road trip this morning, about 200 miles or more. Still idling unevenly, maybe just needs driving. (It turned over 17,000 this morning). Kept the windows down and no ac because the blower runs for a while, then suddenly shuts off, then later comes on again. The fan fail light goes on and off randomly, and the headlights and panel lights would in turn dim or brighten. A couple of times the fuel guage pegged out, otherwise it doesn't go much past halfway, even with a full tank. I have a Fanzilla but haven't figured out installation yet. Will this solve the lights dimming and brightening, or should I look elsewhere? Is my car possesed?
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 98 11:20:08 -0700 From: James Espey <espey(AT)dmcnews.com> Subject: DML: Dick Ryan (Raddad) and his Cross Ciuntry Bike Ride (UPDATE)
I received this note this morning from Leslie Ryan, Dick Ryans wife...
********** Begin forwarded mesage ***********
On 7/30/98 6:35 AM, Leslie Ryan shared these fine thoughts...
>James, Dick asked me to let you know that he received lots of birthday well >wishes from the dmc news group and he really appreciated it. Also, Mike S >came out to cheer Dick on the route in Ohio. Mike and friends had signs, >etc. Dick somehow missed them but he heard about it from lots of people on >the ride that day. My grandson and I leave tomorrow to meet him in DC. >Can't quite believe he's done it. Guess these last few days have been hard >riding. Dick will be back on-line August 15. Leslie
********** End forwarded mesage ***********
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:02:54 -0400 From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM(AT)cesmtp.ccf.org> Subject: Re: DML: Dick Ryan (Raddad) and his Cross Country Bike Ride
(UPDATE) Sender: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com Precedence: list Reply-To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com
For those interested in Dick Ryan's cross-country bike ride:
I knew the Big Ride planned to pass through Cleveland, but the map on the Internet did not give the specific streets. Then last Saturday morning while sweeping my front porch I saw a dozen bicycles passing by . . . THE BIG RIDE WAS GOING RIGHT PAST MY HOUSE!
I immediately parked my DeLorean in the front yard to get attention. My wife Patti and I quickly rummaged through the attic for posterboard to make signs like: "Hooray for the American Lung Association Big Riders!" "Good Luck Riders!" "Go 'Raddad' Dick Ryan!"
We hung the signs and set up a table with a pitcher of water and some crackers in our front yard. Every time a group of riders passed by we applauded and cheered them on. Some of our family and friends joined in and eventually it looked like a party in our yard.
Through the course of the day dozens of riders stopped to sit in the shade and visit with us. They said there were about 700 of them at that point, and almost all of them knew Dick Ryan from Colorado. They talked about him with awe. Apparently Raddad is a celebrity among the riders.
A few of the riders didn't want water, they just wanted to get a look at the DeLorean. They wanted a picture of themselves beside the car, in the car, or just the car by itself.
We stayed out there the rest of the day, but we never saw Dick Ryan. Some of the riders said that he usually leads the pack, so he probably passed by early while we were in the house making our signs. We did hand business cards to some riders and support crew so they could let Raddad know that we were cheering for him.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 98 12:41:57 -0700 From: James Espey <espey(AT)dmcnews.com> Subject: Re: DML: UPDATE ON DICK RYAN'S (RADDAD) BIKE RIDE
For those new to the list, this may explain the recent Dick Ryan postings...
>I received this update on Dick Ryan and his cross-country bike ride from >his wife Leslie. For those new to the list, Dick Ryan is a longtime >DML'er who is on a cross-country bike ride for charity with several >hundred other bicyclists. As if doing a cross-country bike ride at age >65 wasn't daunting in istself, DIck also has an artifical leg! >
To email Dick Ryan, send email to "bigride(AT)gte.net" and put "Richard Ryan #1561" in the subject line.
James Espey Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List http://www.dmcnews.com
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 09:45:05 -1000 From: "Thomas Smithson" <tsassoc(AT)pixi.com> Subject: DML: Re: found one
Derek, good luck on your purchase. If you do get it I hope you will contact me as I and a couple other DMC owners here in Hawaii are going to try to get our cars in the next St. Patty's day parade in that they are products of the auld sod, Erin. Aloha! Thom Smithson tsassoc(AT)pixi.com VIN #3089
- -----Original Message----- From: Derek Burton <burtond1(AT)hotmail.com> To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com <dmcnews(AT)world.std.com> Date: Friday, July 24, 1998 1:45 PM Subject: DML: found one
>Hello fellow DMC'ers, >I hope to soon join you. I am looking at a DMC this weekend here in >Hawaii- kind of tough to find out here. I will keep you posted on what >I find. > >Aloha, > Derek E Burton
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:35:51 -0500 From: Duke <at88mph(AT)mobis.com> Subject: Re: DML: RE: Cooling Fans
One other thing that I just found out. (Feeling really stupid now!) My 'D was idled at 1,500 RPM and my fans were never shutting off. Last night I adjusted my idle to be at 1,000 RPM and now my fans will cycle on and off like they should.
Hope this helps,
Duke
> FerrisBuh(AT)aol.com wrote: > > > ... I have two new Bosch cooling fans. They work well. The pressure > > in the cooling sstem is a perfect 15 lbs. and holding. However, for > > the life of me, even with a day old cooling fan sending switch and > > seal, I CANNOT GET THE FANS TO SHUT OFF ONCE THEY COME ON!
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 16:35:56 -0500 From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut(AT)postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Re: Cooling Fans
> >Hey everyone, > > > >See if anyone here can determine this one: I have two new Bosch cooling fans. > >They work well. The pressure in the cooling sstem is a perfect 15 lbs. and > >holding. However, for the life of me, even with a day old cooling fan sending > >switch and seal, I CANNOT GET THE FANS TO SHUT OFF ONCE THEY COME ON! > >Anyone? > >
The Bosch fans use a different plug which means you had to do some wiring changes. On the chance you might have got the wiring backwards, the fans would be running backwards and hence would run till the cows come home without reducing the temperature in the cooling system. You may want to be sure the hookup is correct.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 14:17:04 -0700 From: "lseiler(AT)radiance.com" <lseiler(AT)radiance.com> Subject: Re: DML: Re: Strange Electrical Problems (me too!!)
At 02:01 PM 7/30/98 -0400, you wrote: >My car has a mind of its own too! Took it on my first long road trip this >morning, about 200 miles or more. Still idling unevenly, maybe just needs >driving. (It turned over 17,000 this morning). Kept the windows down and >no >ac because the blower runs for a while, then suddenly shuts off, then >later >comes on again. The fan fail light goes on and off randomly, and the >headlights and panel lights would in turn dim or brighten. A couple of >times >the fuel guage pegged out, otherwise it doesn't go much past halfway, even >with a full tank. I have a Fanzilla but haven't figured out installation >yet. Will this solve the lights dimming and brightening, or should I look >elsewhere? Is my car possesed? > reply:
I am sure you will get a more tech-nickel reply later, but for what it's worth...I had some of the same problems, the Fan Zilla will solve a lot of your problems as it did mine. Take my word for it, the FankZilla is really very easy to install. If I can do it then you can! My desk name plate doesn't say "Mr. Stupid" for nothing.......
You have other problems but The fan problems will go away and the low electrical problem when your AC compressor comes on will improve!
Lee
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 13:58:52 -0500 From: scottmueller(AT)zebra.net (Scott Mueller) Subject: DML: Wheel Balancing
I have had a front end shimmy for quit some time. It would shake from 50 to 65 MPH. I had read several posts and articles which said that the wheels either had to be balanced on the car or other special procedures had to be followed. I called around Mobile and was not able to find a shop that could balance on the car.
I went down to the Walmart and they did a dynamic balance (2 plane) and placed weights on both sides on the wheels. The car now glides down the road.
They normaly charge $30.00 for a lifetime balance and rotation, but since you do not rotate the tires, they charged me $20.00
If your having problems, WALMART has a great deal.
Do you think I should send this into Paul Harvey, maybe he will use this on his show ;')
Scott Mueller
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 15:22:02 -0600 From: Greg Guillot <gguillot(AT)mccno.com> Subject: Re: DML: On Board Battery Charger
There's an interesting and inexpensive device called a "Battery Float Charger" from Harbor Freight Tools for $9.95. Here's the official description: "The battery float charger is used for the maintenance of wet or gell cell batteries that are stored or used periodically in such items as boats, cars snowmobiles, ATV's and tractors." You can see it on their web site at http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/taf/DisplayItem.taf?Itemnumber=37137
I think I'm going to order one for myself. I don't see how you could go wrong for 10 bucks (unless it fries your battery.) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
On 25 Jul 98 at 8:20, Scott Mueller wrote:
> I have read many posts on the list about members DeLoreans, which are > not driven regularly, having the battery discharge. Fortunatly, I do > not have any major electrical leaks ;) > > But, I was at WALMART yesterday and saw a neat device that I just had to > buy. > > It is a "fully automatic onboard battery maintainer/charger" rated at > 1.5 Amp. It cost $25.00 and I was able to mount it to the driverside > engine compartment. It is hard wired to the red jumper post and to the > engine for ground. It is 1" x 3" x 5", black case and a green LED > indicates power on and a red LED indicates full charge. I had to > increase the length of the positive lead and inlarge the mounting hole > on the bracket. I mounted it to an existing stud just forward of the > carbon canister. > <SNIP> ************************************************ Morial Convention Center - New Orleans Greg Guillot, Director of Info Systems & Services 900 Convention Center Blvd,New Orleans, LA 70130 Phone (504) 582-3116,Fax (504) 582-3104 Email gguillot(AT)mccno.com ************************************************
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 20:07:31 -0600 From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols(AT)earthlink.net> Subject: Re: DML: Wheel Balancing
Scott Mueller wrote:
> I have had a front end shimmy for quit some time. It would shake from > 50 to 65 MPH. I had read several posts and articles which said that the > wheels either had to be balanced on the car or other special procedures > had to be followed.
A couple years ago I had the same problem with out of balance between 65 and 70. One day I found a flat lead weight on the garage floor with double sided foam tape on one side. The tape was no longer sticky. The original balance was to use stick-on weights to the inside of the wheel and they would be held in place by the foam tape and centrifugal force. Fifteen years did its thing on the tape and the weights fell off. I went to the local Western Auto and they balanced the wheels with modern aluminum wheel weights, which weren't available 17 years ago. Now its smooth as silk at 85.If you have your wheels balanced, make sure the original weights are removed. Jim #6884
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 10:41:00 +0900 From: Osamu Shimohara <HCD04403(AT)nifty.ne.jp> Subject: DML: To Owners in HAWAII
Aloha from Japan! We(family) are going to Hawaii from August 18th to August 26th. If possible,I want to meet and talk with DeLorean owners in Hawaii. Of course we want to look your DeLorean(s). Any Owners in Hawaii, please e-mail me at <hcd04403(AT)niftyserve.or.jp>
Osamu Shimohara VIN 00938 President of DOC(DeLorean Owners Club Japan)
Thank you!
Osamu Shimohara (hcd04403(AT)niftyserve.or.jp)
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 98 22:37:06 -0000 From: David Swingle <dswingle(AT)enteract.com> Subject: DML: re: On Board Battery Charger
>From: scottmueller(AT)zebra.net (Scott Mueller) >Subject: DML: On Board Battery Charger >... >But, I was at WALMART yesterday and saw a neat device that I just had to >buy. > >It is a "fully automatic onboard battery maintainer/charger" rated at >1.5 Amp. It cost $25.00 and I was able to mount it to the driverside >engine compartment. It is hard wired to the red jumper post and to the >engine for ground. . . . > >Has anyone tried this device yet? I will probably buy one for my boat, >it sits longer than the car between uses and that big block sure takes a >lot of juice to turn it over. > >Scott Mueller Yes, I have one of these, also from Walmart, but I use it a little differently. The unit is a Schumacher "Automatic Onboard Battery Charger/Maintainer 1.5 A". I cut the lugs off of the charger, and installed the positive lug to the battery jump-start terminal next to the coil cover, and the negative lug to the ground point on the frame just below it. I got 2-conductor Molex connector set from Radio shack. The female molex plug just hangs from the wires, and is easily tucked out of sight behind the water bottle. The male molex plug gets installed on the charger. If parking the car for a long time I now have a place to plug in the charger. I have left the car parked as much as a month without it, though, with no problem. I have an Interstate MT78 Battery and the Motorola alternator.
In the winter I remove the battery from the car and keep it in the house, with the charger attached with a similar molex plug wired to alligator clips. I leave it plugged in all winter.
The only objection to keeping the charger permanently on the battery IN THE CAR is acid gassing in the confined compartment. This is not such a big deal in a more conventional car with the battery under the hood. With the DMC sitting closed up, the battery fumes don't vent very well even though there is a vent tube at the back of the battery compartment.
A friend who is an Interstate Battery distributor indicated that this type of charger will extend the life of a battery greatly compared to just letting it sit, even indoors. This is similar to the "Battery Buddy" mentioned previously - it charges the battery to a set voltage, and the turns the charge completely off until the voltage drops to a lower set point. This is much better for a battery than a continuous trickle charge.
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:23:24 -0400 From: "Joe " <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Wheel Balancing
Scott, Consider yourself lucky; only half of the wheel balance problems can be successfully corrected by a computer balance. If there are no dynamic changes in your suspension system or wheels you will probably be able to take advantage of the Walmart service for years to come, many other DeLorean owners are not that lucky. Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 23:33:10 -0400 From: "Joe " <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Re: Strange Electrical Problems (me too!!)
yugoman, To correct your intermittent blower problem replace your blower circuit breaker with a 35 amp unit. Install your Fanzilla it will eliminate the electrical problems that you describe. To correct your fuel gauge problem install a Tankzilla. Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 07:16:40 -0400 From: Cirillo Ronald A NUWCDIVNPT <CirilloRA(AT)code80.npt.nuwc.navy.mil> Subject: RE: DML: On Board Battery Charger
Hi all,
Just to let you know I bought one of the Harbor Freight Battery Float Chargers. It works like a charm. No more battery problems when I let my car sit. I have also bought two more (one for my Triumph and one for my motorcycle)
Ron
> ---------- > > There's an interesting and inexpensive device called a "Battery Float > Charger" from Harbor Freight Tools for $9.95. Here's the official > description: > "The battery float charger is used for the maintenance of wet or gell > cell batteries that are stored or used periodically in such items as > boats, cars snowmobiles, ATV's and tractors." > You can see it on their web site at > http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/taf/DisplayItem.taf?Itemnumber=37137 > > I think I'm going to order one for myself. I don't see how you could > go wrong for 10 bucks (unless it fries your battery.) > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 09:01:25 -0600 From: "Aaron Barrus" <asbarrus(AT)novell.com> Subject: DML: Re: Wheel Balancing
Joe,
A standard computer balance has always corrected my shimmying problems, = although I always get the "warranty" deal on my tires because the balance = seems to wear off after 5000 miles or so (???). What other types of = problems could cause shimmying that normal balancing wouldn't fix?
Also, can you help me understand the procedure for on-the-car balancing? = I have also called local shops in Utah and nobody has heard of such a = procedure.
Thank you!
Aaron
>>> "Joe " <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> 07/30 9:23 PM >>> Scott, Consider yourself lucky; only half of the wheel balance problems can be successfully corrected by a computer balance. If there are no dynamic changes in your suspension system or wheels you will probably be able to take advantage of the Walmart service for years to come, many other DeLorean owners are not that lucky. Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 15:44:31 -0000 From: James Espey <espey(AT)dmcnews.com> Subject: DML: Gray Leather Pull Straps For Sale
I have a few sets of gray leather pull straps left for the later style cars (no ring, attachs directly to the door panel). I need to move these straps! $33 per pair includes shipping anywhere in the US. Send check/money order to:
DMC-News/James Espey P.O. Box 4833 Mesa, AZ 85211-4833
Questions? Email me directly, please...
Thanks!
James
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Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 10:09:38 +0100 From: "Ian T. A. Foster" <ian(AT)netvigator.com> Subject: DML: Painting the dash?
Hallo DMCers,
Has anyone used plastic paint to rejuvinate their front dash? My dash has suffered slightly from sun damage ... it seems 'bleeched' as if the sun had reacted with a polish. As there are no cracks I am looking into alternatives to replacement. My aircraft engineer buddy say they use a plastic paint for this same problem in S.California. Has anyone had any experience doing this ... looks good or a botch job?!?
Thanks for any comments.
Cheers, IAN (Hong Kong)
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 21:08:15 PDT From: "De Miller" <demillerkansas(AT)hotmail.com> Subject: DML: Dash removal
All: My "new" DeLorean is in the shop for a few minor adjustments before I take delivery. I am doing a few cosmetic things while waiting on the shop to get the mechanical stuff done. I want everything else to be done when it is up & running. I removed the rider seat yesterday & took it to the upholstery shop for recovering. The dash needs a a few cracks repaired. My question is this: can the dash be "easily" removed so I can take it to the repair shop? Also, the air dam is in need of a little mending. Can it be "easily" removed to the repair shop can be working on that also? I'd appreciate any help you can give and keep up the great work. De Miller, Kansas City.
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 23:20:05 -0500 From: thgraham(AT)edge.net (Travis Graham) Subject: DML: RE: Painting the dash?
I had a new black dash and binnacle painted gray. Since my existing glove box door was discolored (it was brown due to sun damage), but had no cracks, I had it painted along with the dash so I wouldn't have to shell out the bucks for a new door. It looked great...but one day the brown returned!! The painted dash and binnacle were, and are currently fine, just the old door's paint faded. I ended up buying a new glove box door instead of repeating the process.
Having all parts painted is MUCH cheaper than buying new replacements and will look perfectly fine, but I just wanted to warn you that the brown might someday return. Maybe my De Lorean just doesn't like me?
Good luck! Travis Graham
- -----Original Message----- From: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com On Behalf Of Ian T. A. Foster Sent: Saturday, August 01, 1998 4:10 AM To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com Subject: DML: Painting the dash?
Has anyone used plastic paint to rejuvinate their front dash? My dash has suffered slightly from sun damage ... it seems 'bleeched' as if the sun had reacted with a polish. As there are no cracks I am looking into alternatives to replacement.
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1998 23:50:01 -0500 From: espey(AT)dmcnews.com Subject: DML: Swap DeLorean project
Found this online tonight...
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Subject: Swap DeLorean project for nice 914 2.0 or one of those ugly 356 notchbacks or $5500. From: bob(AT)atl.org Date: 1998/07/31 Newsgroups: alt.autos.porsche Have DeLorean. 1981. 5sp. PRV motor but it has a holded piston. It's a good 10' car, not a showpiece but will make a dandy eye turning beater :-) or put a 4.0L Rover motor in and it might go almost as fast as one would like. Have title but it's a theft recovery and this is GA so if you keep it in GA you will have to make roadworthy and have inspected to obtain a new title. Also have bill of sale from the insurance company. I've no time to mess with the 'D' car as house mending, work, garage construction, kids, wife, etc etc are leaving less time than was available in my youndger days. Plus, the days are shorter now.
$5500 cash or swap for one of the above mentioned 'P' cars.
Photos available upon receipt of yours (email or url only).
- -bob
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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 02:47:06 EDT From: OLopez1(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: VIN Question
I have a question about the VIN numbers on the DeLoreans
Most people when they post a message or refer to their car usually post the last four or five digits of the VIN number. Since I don't own a DeLorean (yet) I was wondering if the beginning part part of the VIN number is the same to all DeLoreans. If so what would an entire VIN look like.
Thanx OL
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Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 06:21:58 EDT From: WtrResQ(AT)aol.com Subject: Re: DML: Painting the dash?
i dont have any info regarding painting the dash, but a friend of mine recently "re-died" his leather in his jag. it looks great. he got the dye from a quality cobbler in the area. for what its worth.
james
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Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 10:49:16 PDT From: "De Miller" <demillerkansas(AT)hotmail.com> Subject: DML: parts reference guide
Hello everyone: I would like to know if there is some sort of master parts catalog, reference listing etc., available? It would be helpful to use on the great site service Delorean Motor Company has. I've used it a couple times and it works great, but I don't know the correct name for the parts I'm looking for and it apparently needs the correct name. For example, I was interested in how much new rubber door molding would be. There are a few little chunks missing out of mine. Well, I put it in the search and could find nothing. I am sure that stuff is available, it must be called something besides molding..but I don't know what. And the search could never find that "little thing-a-ma-jig that's under the left side of the dash". So, if I had a reference with the correct name, I'd know what to look for. Tip for those late night net surfers: the www.usadmc.com parts search is great to tool around in at 1 or 2 a.m.! Keep up the great work! De Miller. Kansas City
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