DeLorean Mailing List - 8/25/98

Tuesday, August 25 1998        Volume 03 : Number 405



       In this issue:

        DML: Bricklin web page

        DML: Re: Re: rims, dash lights, and mags

        DML: Re: Power Antenna

        DML: Re: Re: Alternator or Battery??

        DML: Cooling Fans

        DML: new owner with electrical problems

        DML: courtesy fuse blowing

        DML: PLEASE buy my DeLorean!

        Re: DML: Re: Re: Alternator or Battery??

        DML: Re: clutch problems?

        Re: DML: Antennas

        DML: Buying a De Lorean: What to look for and too consider...

        DML: PARTS FOR SALE !

        DML: stuff that goes wrong!

        Re: DML: Dashboard all out of whack!

        DML: Insurance Help!

        DML: Re: repainting black windshield header

        DML: Delorean Model

        DML: Frame welding and cleaning stainless

        DML: Re: clutch problems?

        DML: Four Speed DeLorean

        DML: [admin] DeLorean Mailing List Shirt Designs

        Re: DML: North Carolina Insurance Help!

        Re: DML: Buying a De Lorean: What to look for and too consider...

        Re: DML: Re: clutch problems?

        DML: DXF DMC

        Re: DML: stuff that goes wrong!

        DML: Re: Insurance Help!

        Re: DML: Frame welding and cleaning stainless

        Re: DML: North Carolina Insurance Help!

        DML: Re: Insurance Help!

        DML: Rear Axle CV boots

        DML: DML Luggage Rack Installation

        DML: Radio inline fuse

        Re: DML: keys

        DML: Re: courtesy fuse blowing

        DML: Re: Dashboard all out of whack!

        Re: DML: Re: Re: Alternator or Battery??

        DML: Re: Cooling Fans

        DML: Re: new owner with electrical problems

        RE: DML: Antennas

        Re: DML: DML Luggage Rack Installation
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 10:50:12 +0000

From: Bob Brandys <oehcs(AT)flash.net>

Subject: DML: Bricklin web page
The national Bricklin web page is at:
http://bricklin.shel.olsy-na.com/BI/EventCal.htm

It is run by one of the original people involved in making the car.
We have been trying to coordinate events with bricklin owners
It would be a good thing for Delorean owners to encourage this. 
Bob Brandys
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 10:59:27 -0400

From: "Joe" <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>

Subject: DML: Re: Re: rims, dash lights, and mags
Chip,

Remove your shifter boot mounting plate to access the underside of your

dimmer control, place a jumper wire between the red/orange wires and the

red/white wire, your instrument lights should come on. If this works your

dimmer is N.G., if this is the case you can leave the jumper in place and

your dash lights will operate at full illumination. 

Joe/DeLorean Services
- ----------

> From: chip <chip(AT)koan.com>

> To: dmcnews-digest(AT)world.std.com

> Subject: DML: Re: rims, dash lights, and mags

> Date: Friday, August 21, 1998 2:29 AM

> 

> Joe wrote:

> 

> 

> >Chip,

> >The power going to your clock and panel lights must go through several

> >connections on its way to its final destination. Here's the route. 12v 

> >from

> >your battery goes to fuse No. 8 from there it travels to all of the

> >right

> >hand side parking lights. The feed than travels through your center 

> >console

> >and stops at the panel light dimmer, from there it goes through the

> >headlight switch and the hazard switch and finally ends up at the clock.

> >Based on your description there is no power in this circuit. Here's how

> >to

> >find out; turn on your parking lights and see if the headlight switch

> >and

> >hazard switches are illuminated. You will probably want to do this in a

> >darkened area to more clearly see these lights. If these lights are off 

> >you

> >have no power in the circuit; let me know what you find.

> >Joe/DeLorean Services

> 

> 

> Well i checked that out and yes the power going to the panel witht the

> hazard button, the air conditioning, etc. yes the lights in that part do

> work. its just the part of the dash that the speedometer and gas gauge

> is on. that is where its dark. what can i do now? thanx for your info

> and help.

> 

> chip ( only 19 years old too, how special) 

> vin #1230
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 12:19:49 -0400

From: "Joe" <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>

Subject: DML: Re: Power Antenna
Scott,

F.Y.I. an inexpensive rear mounted power antenna for the DeLorean is

available from Radio Shack at around $40, we have found it to be 

comparable

to the original Harada. It does, however, require a slightly different

mounting from the factory set up. The factory issued an instruction sheet

on how to install the power antenna in post factory installed power 

antenna

cars.

Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 12:22:54 -0400

From: "Joe" <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>

Subject: DML: Re: Re: Alternator or Battery??
Call one of our DeLorean parts suppliers and they will lead you to the

Motorola or Delco replacement. 

Joe/DeLorean Services----------
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 12:19:22 -0500

From: Thomas Bohmier <Bohmier(AT)sprintmail.com>

Subject: DML: Cooling Fans
Couple of questions regarding the cooling fans:
My cooling fan "fuse kit" melted. As a result, I started checking

everything after replacing the fuse, and discovered that my right

cooling fans is inoperative.
1 - What is the Bosch model number to replace the motor unit?
2 - Is there any tricks to get the six bolts and support bracket

disassembled and reassembled on the fan(s) scroud system?
3 - Do I need to disconnect the passenger side radiator feed line/hose?
Any tricks or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I searched the

DMC news database base, but found nothing. It has been 12 years since I

replaced one and the details are fuzzy in my both head and in the

manual.
Again... Who knows the Bosch part number or cross reference number and

any suggestions or tricks. My car start running hot, in traffic, in the

100 degree Dallas heat, since only one fan is fully operational.

>

I hear that there are a few owners in the Dallas/Fort Worth area who

may be on this list. I would enjoy the opportunity to hear from y'all,

participate in some of the local shows, or just get together for a drive

and or social.
Thomas W. Bohmier

Dallas,  Texas
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 14:01:27 -0400

From: "Cole" <highoctane(AT)nfx.net>

Subject: DML: new owner with electrical problems
Hi. My name is Cole Stinnette. I am 17 years old and I just picked up my

DeLorean yesterday. It's an 81 stick-shift and has just under 20K miles on

it. I bought it at a used car lot near my home. Trouble is, they had to

order a new AC evaporator for it, and now that that's in there the battery

won't hold a charge and a lot of the electrical system is kinda screwy. My

blinkers, horn, dash lights, and interior lights are all out. It doesn't

matter if I push start it or jump it, if I try to restart the car after I

turn it off it just clicks. The voltmeter almost always shows 13 on it. I

also lost some coolant which I replaced with water. Do I just need a new

long-life battery? Maybe a battery cut-off switch? If anyone could help 

me,

my email address is highoctane(AT)nfx.net
Thanks
Cole

VIN 2506
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 14:24:40 -0600

From: Brock Williams <brock(AT)mcn.net>

Subject: DML: courtesy fuse blowing
I have an '81 D stick shift.  Lately, my courtesy fuse has been blowing.  

Last

time it didn't last more than half an hour.  As far as I can tell, 

everything

works when the fuse in good.  All interior lights, the door warning 

lights, etc

all work fine.  Then the fuse goes and the door ajar telltale stays on.  

Also,

my alarm refuses to lock the doors because it thinks a door is open.  

Both door

switches operate properly.  Any ideas?
Brock Williams

Vin #2680
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 16:50:53 -0500

From: "Tim Hansen" <thansen(AT)pensys.com>

Subject: DML: PLEASE buy my DeLorean!
I'm now accepting offers and will take the best one.  It's in really nice

shape, but I have to have it sold before college and that's four days 

away!
Please help!  I want $13,500 but am taking offers...
It's an unpainted '81 with a beautiful body on it, the grey leather 

interior

is presentable, the original auto-trans drivetrain is perfect with the

exception of an exhaust manifold gasket that needs repair....it's a good 

car

for the money...it was a good deal at $15,000!  Now I'm desparate!
HELP!
(can provide pictures on request)
Tim Hansen

thansen(AT)Pensys.com
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 19:17:17 EDT

From: CBL302(AT)aol.com

Subject: Re: DML: Re: Re: Alternator or Battery??
When you say "DELCO",do you mean,that I could install a General

Motors,alternator

 in my Delorean?If so do I need a bracket,and wiring kit?Again if so who 

sells

the kit?

If not what brackets do I use to line up the alternator with the 

pullies,and

what about a wiring diagram,to go from Delorean to GM.
Claude

Vin#570
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 17:56:05 -0400

From: chip <chip(AT)koan.com>

Subject: DML: Re: clutch problems?
well it worked when i got it but i took my D out for a sunday drive and

i first started noticing a problem shifting into reverse. the thing

would ALWAYS grind. then later it started grinding into other gears as

well has trouble even getting the stick to shift into the slot.  I would

think that this is a clutch problem? any ideas anybody? how much does

this cost to replace if this is the problem? thanx
chip

vin 1230
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 13:06:34 -1000

From: "Thomas Smithson" <tsassoc(AT)pixi.com>

Subject: Re: DML: Antennas
Scott, do you still have a copy of this flyer around? I know it's a long

shot but thought I'd ask. Aloha, Thom Smithson VIN #3089

- -----Original Message-----

From: Scott Mueller <scottmueller(AT)zebra.net>

To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com <dmcnews(AT)world.std.com>

Date: Friday, August 21, 1998 8:14 AM

Subject: Re: DML: Antennas
(SNIP)

>

>I own vin 002981/August 81.  It came with the fixed mast on the right

>front fender.  Several months after purchasing the car in October 1981,

>we recieved a flyer that showed how to install the automatic antenna in

>the left rear fender.

>

>Scott Mueller

>
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 15:28:37 -0700

From: "Robert A. Rooney" <DMCVegas(AT)ix.netcom.com>

Subject: DML: Buying a De Lorean: What to look for and too consider...
In reponse to the questions that have been asked by the many people who

have considered purchasing a D(myself included). You really can't have a

specific answer for each of the questions. The one & most important

thing is to remember that no 2 cars have ever been, nor ever will be

exactly the same. There are of course the obvious(rust, over heating,

part replacement, etc.) that one can look for. But you can't just

consider those factors, the largest concern to look for in a D, or any

car for that matter is the owner. It takes 3 things to own & maintain

any car:

1. Time

2. Money

3. Passion

If any one of these is missing, your car will be more of a burdon than

it is a joy. But all three dictate the each other. How much passion you

have will determine how much time & money you put into it. But how much

time & money you put into your car is going to determine how much

maintenance will go in, and untimatly how much pleasure you will get out

of owning & driving your car. And once again all of these depend on what

kind of shape your vehicle is in. They can have problems just like any

other car, and some have truly been neglected. For example. There is a

guy here in Vegas who owns an '81. When he got the car, he was the 3'rd

owner. The car had been in storage by the first, restored & upgraded by

the second, & then sold to him. He bought it in March 1988, and in

September of 1988 the water pump went out. Money was not the issue, he

could afford to have the pump replaced. But he had no desire or passion

for the car to fix it. So ever since then his car has been sitting in

his drive way, just rotting away for the past 10 years. About the $300

for that new pump would have saved him the now $4-5,000 it would now

cost just to make the car road worthy. So in closing consider the most

important factor in owning a De Lorean, yourself. But don't stero-type

the car as a money-pit. If you love it and maintain it, it won't be! And

as far as using your car as a daily driver, then you just need to

maintain it as one. Expect a little more in maintenance for that extra

driving experience!
- -Robert
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 98 22:17:37 PDT

From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody(AT)kih.net>

Subject: DML: PARTS FOR SALE !
I have lots of assorted USED parts that I need

to clear out of the garage.  Too many to list.

SO,  if you need something,  just send email

to

bsmoody(AT)kih.net   OR  winger2(AT)webtv.net

include the part description and part number . 

!!! In the subject line, put the word PARTS and

nothing else !!  This is important for the server to

route the message correctly.   We will then respond

to you if we have it avaiable and price.  include

your email and name in the body of the message.

We have about everything including frames/ body/

engines/ etc....
- -Brandon

bsmoody(AT)kih.net
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 17:58:27 -0700 (PDT)

From: illyana delorean <illyanadmc(AT)yahoo.com>

Subject: DML: stuff that goes wrong!
okay, my little dilemma is that somehow i got unsubscribed from the

list! i dont remember doing this to myself, but it did happen. for

some reason, i figured that everyone on the list was on a vacation

from their computers, so i did nothing about it and i even posted a

few messages. but, eventually i got suspicious, and i decided to check

up on my subscription status.

now that i am re-subscribed, id like to ask a favour of you all. i

posted a message about seeing an ad for a 4speed DMC in the "old car

trader" magazine, and i was curious about its validity. if anyone

actually did respond to my post, i would appreciate it if someone

could maybe sum up for me what was discussed about the 4speed DMC. i

am quite curious about it!
thanks!
<-illyana->
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 21:52:31 -0500

From: Thomas Bohmier <Bohmier(AT)sprintmail.com>

Subject: Re: DML: Dashboard all out of whack!
Sean:
May I make a recommendation and do what I did... Take it to a DMC 

facility. They

went over mine top to bottom and proactively fixed everything. Yes, you 

will spend a

few dollars, but that goes with the sports car territory. Mine spent a 

week with DMC

Houston. Since then two small things have cropped up... one cooling fan 

"gave up the

ghost" and my speedometer died. I am sure the speedometer problem is that 

famous

gear at the wheel.
Thomas Bohmier

Dallas,  Texas
Sean R. Manning wrote:
> Hi there-->

>

>         Pretty much every dial on my dashboard doesn't work right.  Of 

course my

> speedometer is hosed, that's a given.  It bounces around the actual speed

> and just won't sit still.  The fuel gage is stuck at 1/2.  The tach is

> stuck at 1000rpm.  Finally, the oil pressure never goes all the way to the

> bottom, even when turned off and when the car is moving it zings up to the

> top.  I'm just looking for some free advice top point me in the right

> direction on any of these issues so that I don't have to tear up every one

> of these systems looking for the source of the problem.  Thanks a bunch.

> :)

>

> Sean Manning

> VIN#1932
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 06:04:57 -0700

From: Jason Perkins <jperkins(AT)microsoft.com>

Subject: DML: Insurance Help!
After performing days of research, I am posing this question to DMCNEWS:
After recently moving to North Carolina for job purposes, I have looked 

into

classic car insurance for my D - which is now uninsured!  However it is in

storage and currently covered by the storage ins.  Due to the fact I live 

in

N.C., I have found NO classic car insurance company that deals with the 

N.C.

insurance laws.  All the usual classic car ins co (Hagerty..- all the ones

found in Hemmings- can't recall names) will provide Comp/Coll. however not

Liability (I hope I didn't get that backwards).  This makes it a headache 

to

break the D insurance payments between 2 ins. companies- and also 

expensive.

I have also found NO other insurance company that is willing to insure my 

D,

around here except for Allstate.  Their premium is $700 per year w/250

deduct. (OUCH!) even with the multicar discount!  

The same old answer from Ins. companies is "Can you tell me the cars name

again?  Now what is the model again?  What company makes it?  ** do you 

mean

a DeSoto?    (!#%$(AT)#(AT))
If anybody knows of an ins. co. that is based out of N.C.- it does not 

have

to be a classic ins. co., that will cover a D here in N.C., please let me

know.
Thanks DMCNEWS!

jperkins(AT)microsoft.com
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:04:29 -0400

From: Mike Griese <magriese(AT)us.ibm.com>

Subject: DML: Re: repainting black windshield header
David - The windshield trim can be removed from the car.

Peel back the outer door seals to expose some screws.  Remove

the screws to remove the trim.  You will want to do the side pieces

as well because they will look pretty bad next to the freshly painted

header.  Clean off the old adhesive with 3M adhesive remover

before painting the trim pieces.  You might want to consider

replacing the outer door seals at this time, as long as you have

them off.  If you don't replace them, remove the old adhesive from

the door seals before putting them back on the car.  Use 3M

Weatherstrip adhesive (#8008) to reattach the door seals.
Michael A. Griese

IBM Storage Systems Division

Rochester, MN  55901

Internet: magriese(AT)us.ibm.com

voice:     (507)253-1853

fax:        (507)253-2880
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:54:58 -0400

From: "Laflotte, Duane" <dlaflott(AT)Valinor.com>

Subject: DML: Delorean Model
I was wondering if there was any good model deloreans?  I have great metal

models of other cars but I was wondering if any company puts out a 

delorean

one.

Thanks

Duane Laflotte
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:15:04 -0400

From: "Kemp, Nick (MN10)" <nick.kemp(AT)HBC.honeywell.com>

Subject: DML: Frame welding and cleaning stainless
Two thoughts:
1) When I had my frame repair, after it had bee sandblasted, the welder

commented that he was affected by the fumes resulting from welding on

the frame.  Presumably the fumes from some remaining epoxy.  Weld in a

well ventilated area with good air movement.
2) I noticed after washing my car that it still seems dirty.  I followed

up with Windex and it looks great.  So where did the dirt film com from

originally?  My conclusion is that a miniscule amount of dirt gets into

the pores of the stainless and this results in a dirty look unless you

wipe it down as I did with the Windex.
NK
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:20:15 -0400

From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM(AT)cesmtp.ccf.org>

Subject: DML: Re: clutch problems?
Chip, the most likely source of problems is your clutch hydraulic line.  

If

your car still has the polymer line, you should replace it with the 

stainless

steel line.  This will save a lot of wear and tear on your tranny, and 

keep

you from looking like a clutz.  A good DeLorean mechanic can do this job

in a few hours.
If you have already replaced the line, then this could also be a symptom

of a worn out master cylinder or slave cylinder in your clutch system. 

New ones are not too expensive.  You might want to have yours tested

just to be sure.
- - Mike Substelny

VIN 1280 (close to yours!)
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:34:30 -0400

From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM(AT)cesmtp.ccf.org>

Subject: DML: Four Speed DeLorean
Illyana said:

> i posted a message about seeing an ad for a 4speed DMC in the "old

> car trader" magazine, and i was curious about its validity. if anyone

> actually did respond to my post, i would appreciate it if someone

> could maybe sum up for me what was discussed about the 4speed

> DMC.
I remember thinking when you posted the original message that it is

probably just a five speed with transmission problems.  Maybe the seller

of this car is Bill Gates, and he reclassified all its faults as 

"features."
Perhaps this DeLorean also comes with "Sporty, low hanging doors" and

"Customized leather seats featuring random slit pattern" and "High tech

Ducillier power regulation system to limit electrical consumption."
Seriously, I have often mused that it should be easy to put the

transmission from an Eagle Premier into a DeLorean.  That would give

you a very reliable automatic four speed with overdrive.  I have no idea 

if

this was done to the car in question.  Maybe?
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 98 09:49:47 -0700

From: James Espey <espey(AT)dmcnews.com>

Subject: DML: [admin] DeLorean Mailing List Shirt Designs
I have recevied a couple of new shirt design submissions, but 

unfortunately they used images which had been "lifted" from other sites 

on the internet. I would think that most people would realize this was a 

"no-no" for obvious reasons. So...here are the (revised) design 

specifications:
1 color breast or short sleeve imprint (MAXIMUM 3 inches wide x 2 inches 

tall)
Up to 4 color back (MAXIMUM 11 inches wide by 14 inches tall)
Line drawing or halftone/four color process (DO NOT use images lifted 

from the internet unless you can supply written permission from the 

original owner of the image their authorization to use it for this 

purpose)
Preferred in digital format, at least 150dpi resolution for raster or 

continous tone art.
Must show these items:
1) DeLorean sports car

2) the text "DeLorean Mailing List"

3) the text "www.dmcnews.com"

4) the text "Keeping the Dream Alive'
Deadline for entries in September 15, 1998. Send a LOW-RES (72dpi, GIF or 

JPEG) copy of your design to:
tshirt(AT)dmcnews.com
Thanks!
James Espey

YOU pick the new DeLorean Mailing List T-Shirt Design!

http://www.dmcnews.com/shirt.html
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 98 09:25:13 -0700

From: James Espey <espey(AT)dmcnews.com>

Subject: Re: DML: North Carolina Insurance Help!
On 8/24/98 6:05 AM, Jason Perkins shared these fine thoughts...
>After performing days of research, I am posing this question to DMCNEWS:

>

>After recently moving to North Carolina for job purposes, I have looked into

>classic car insurance for my D - which is now uninsured!  However it is in

>storage and currently covered by the storage ins.  Due to the fact I live in

>N.C., I have found NO classic car insurance company that deals with the N.C.

(SNIP)

>

>If anybody knows of an ins. co. that is based out of N.C.- it does not have

>to be a classic ins. co., that will cover a D here in N.C., please let me

>know.
There are eight North Carolina DeLorean owners listed in the latest 

edition of the DeLorean Owners Directory. This is just one reason why the 

DODwas created, so owners could contact other owners in their areas to 

solve problems, socialize and simply promote communication.
Which car maker had the slogan "Ask the man who owns one"? 
35 owners in Illinois

34 owners in California

25 owners in New Jersey

28 owners in Ohio

69 owners in Washington

28 owners in Georgia
To register for the DeLorean Owners Directory, point your browser to:
http://www.dmcnews.com/directory.html
or send mail to "directory(AT)dmcnews.com" with the text "SEND FORM" in the 

subject.
James Espey

Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List

http://www.dmcnews.com
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:44:45 EDT

From: JSteuben(AT)aol.com

Subject: Re: DML: Buying a De Lorean: What to look for and too consider...
Bravo, Well said!   Best regards, Joe
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 11:47:40 -0500

From: scottmueller(AT)zebra.net (Scott Mueller)

Subject: Re: DML: Re: clutch problems?
chip wrote:

> 

> well it worked when i got it but i took my D out for a sunday drive and

> i first started noticing a problem shifting into reverse. the thing

> would ALWAYS grind. then later it started grinding into other gears as

> well has trouble even getting the stick to shift into the slot.  I would

> think that this is a clutch problem? any ideas anybody? how much does

> this cost to replace if this is the problem? thanx

> 

> chip

> vin 1230

Chip, Check and see if you have the steel braided clutch line, if it is

the plastic one, then replace it.
Scott
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:31:17 -0600

From: "Gremlin" <gremlin(AT)gremlin.net>

Subject: DML: DXF DMC
I've forgotten who it was now [sorry] but someone on the list was working 

on

a CG/autocad version of a DeLorean.  I do a lot of CG animation and began

building a virtual 1981 5-speed, which I lost in a drivecrash.
If whoever was building the dxf would like some help, I should have just

enough free time to add a few virtual parts to it, if you'd care to send 

it

to me.
- --Gremlin

admin(AT)gremlin.net

http://gremlin.net
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:29:14 -0400

From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com>

Subject: Re: DML: stuff that goes wrong!
May want to check the back issues....  But the few comments that were

made were that no one knew of a 4 speed auto DMC, other than the ones

that have been modified with the Porche unit.
I suspect they just made a mistake.

illyana delorean wrote:

> 

(SNIP)

> now that i am re-subscribed, id like to ask a favour of you all. i

> posted a message about seeing an ad for a 4speed DMC in the "old car

> trader" magazine, and i was curious about its validity. if anyone

> actually did respond to my post, i would appreciate it if someone

> could maybe sum up for me what was discussed about the 4speed DMC. i

> am quite curious about it!

> 

> thanks!

> 

> <-illyana->
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 13:28:00 -0400

From: "R. Starling" <doctor280(AT)email.msn.com>

Subject: DML: Re: Insurance Help!
This is not an ad for Nationwide, but here in North Carolina you can call 

my

agent, Johnny A Morgan. He is based in Winston-Salem and he has quoted a

fair price, I think for insurance for the D. He can do it under a stated

value policy. (explained in my earlier post) When you call him make sure

that you speak to him, because he is the only person in the office that

really understands how to do it. Johnny's phone number is (336)721-9054

- -----Original Message-----

From: Jason Perkins <jperkins(AT)microsoft.com>

To: 'dmcnews' <dmcnews(AT)world.std.com>

Date: Monday, August 24, 1998 12:15 PM

Subject: DML: Insurance Help!

>After performing days of research, I am posing this question to DMCNEWS:

>

>After recently moving to North Carolina for job purposes, I have looked

>into

>classic car insurance for my D - which is now uninsured!  However it is in

>storage and currently covered by the storage ins.  Due to the fact I live

>in

>N.C., I have found NO classic car insurance company that deals with the

>N.C.

>insurance laws.  All the usual classic car ins co (Hagerty..- all the ones

>found in Hemmings- can't recall names) will provide Comp/Coll. however not

>Liability (I hope I didn't get that backwards).  This makes it a headache

>to

>break the D insurance payments between 2 ins. companies- and also

>expensive.

>I have also found NO other insurance company that is willing to insure my

>D,

>around here except for Allstate.  Their premium is $700 per year w/250

>deduct. (OUCH!) even with the multicar discount!

>The same old answer from Ins. companies is "Can you tell me the cars name

>again?  Now what is the model again?  What company makes it?  ** do you

>mean

>a DeSoto?    (!#%$(AT)#(AT))

>

>If anybody knows of an ins. co. that is based out of N.C.- it does not

>have

>to be a classic ins. co., that will cover a D here in N.C., please let me

>know.

>

>Thanks DMCNEWS!

>jperkins(AT)microsoft.com
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 11:59:32 -0700

From: raddad(AT)cmn.net

Subject: Re: DML: Frame welding and cleaning stainless
I'm glad to see that someon else has discovered the windex approach to

cleaning.  Whenever I wash my D, I remove most of the water on it so that

it won't spot, but I don't make any attempt to get it completely dry.  

Then

I go over it with Windex - or a comparable product -  and dry it with 

paper

towels.  The results are far superior to simply washing it.
I suspect that part of what you are removing with the Windex is any

residual soap or detergent.  Having cleaned your D wthis way, always keep

the Windex and paper towels in the trunk to quickly and easily remove

fingerprints or other spots that may appear.
Dick Ryan
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:02:40 -0700

From: raddad(AT)cmn.net

Subject: Re: DML: North Carolina Insurance Help!
>Which car maker had the slogan "Ask the man who owns one"?

PACKARD - and they too bit the dust!!
The Rad Dad
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 13:28:00 -0400

From: "R. Starling" <doctor280(AT)email.msn.com>

Subject: DML: Re: Insurance Help!
This is not an ad for Nationwide, but here in North Carolina you can call 

my

agent, Johnny A Morgan. He is based in Winston-Salem and he has quoted a

fair price, I think for insurance for the D. He can do it under a stated

value policy. (explained in my earlier post) When you call him make sure

that you speak to him, because he is the only person in the office that

really understands how to do it. Johnny's phone number is (336)721-9054
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 98 20:59:22 -0000

From: David Swingle <dswingle(AT)enteract.com>

Subject: DML: Rear Axle CV boots
I don't recall seing anything posted on this - has anyone replaced the 

rear axle CV joint boots? Not on my car, but someone in the area has the 

two outer boots starting to split. 
It looks like it should be relatively simple, but the parts manual only 

lists a replacement of the whole axle and $500+ each. I suspect that the 

factory thinking has the boots and the CV joints wearing out at the same 

time, but most of these cars have mor age than miles on them leading to 

splitting of the rubber boots from age. 
Dave Swingle

81 VIN 5429

DOA, DMC, DMC(Midwest)
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 23:03:32 +0000

From: kenm(AT)compctr.ccs.csus.edu

Subject: DML: DML Luggage Rack Installation
Greetings
I finally got the nerve to take a drill to my car and install the 

luggage rack I bought when I was back at the Cincinnati show. I think 

the instructions that came with the rack are junk. Now I have an 82 

car so perhaps it's just that there was a lot of changes between the 

81's and the 82's but the template on the instructions doesn't match 

my car in the least. It calls to align the template with the mounting 

rivets for the louver struts, which there are none. And if the 

template is aligned with the holes in the edges of the strut mounts 

the rack ends up 3/4 inch too far up on the car and the lovuers would 

jam against the rack mounts. So has anyone else ran into this? I was 

able to properly mount the rack. It's a great addition and I really 

reccomend getting one. 
So before I finish the installation I also wonder if anyone has come 

up with a clever way to reinstall the rubber stops in such a way as 

to hide the luggage rack clips.. like the drawing shows. If you were 

to cut the stops like the drawing, the clips wouldn't lock into place 

to install the rack. The only way I've seen it done is to cut the 

stop into sections around the mounts.
Thanks in advance and see you in LA!
- -------------------------------------------------------

Ken Montgomery    My DeLorean VIN #10911 

Sacramento, CA    

kenm(AT)csus.edu     "When the wind gets under these wings 

Operating           You will feel what freedom brings" 

Systems Analyst        From 'On-Air' Alan Parsons

(916) 278-7646    

http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean01.htm

- -------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 13:05:44 -0700 (PDT)

From: Sean Manning <mannings(AT)premier1.net>

Subject: DML: Radio inline fuse
Hi all-->
	I have an original Craig radio in my car.  Even thought it sounds

like a tin can I'm into keeping things original.  Unfortunalty it won't

remember what station it was on or any of the presets after you've turned

the engin off.  The wiring diagram shows that two power lines are

connected to it:  one that is hooked to the ignition switch and the other

is hooked straight to the power supply all the time via an inline fuse.  I

suspected that the fuse had blown and the absense of constant power to the

radio was the problem (sounds logical, doesn't it? :P )  Well, when I got

the radio out there was a little pink wire with a connection on it that

looked like it might accept a small fuse.  But when I looked in the hole

in the console I couldn't find a corresponding wire/connection.  (This

obviously would result in the same symptom.)  So I'm

wondering should the wire I'm looking fore be part of the same tap off the

main wire bundle that the radio's wire harness is part of or should it be

somewhere else?  The exploded parts diagram doesn't seem to get down to

this level of detail.  I've looked all over in there but I can't seem to

find it so I'm hoping someone knows the general area of where it should be

located so I don't have to pull the whole console out.  Thanks a bunch. :)
Sean Manning

VIN#1932

(considering license plate: FUTRBOY)
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:28:42 EDT

From: KayoOng(AT)aol.com

Subject: Re: DML: keys
Mr. Seiler,
These are key blanks not of DMC manufacturer.  They are after market to 

fit

Volvo and other vehicles.  They work great, with no modifications.  They 

are

less then $3.00 ($2.75???) for the flat one, about $3.50 for the black 

handle

one?  In either way it is a bargain for me -- just for the availability 

and

cut too.  
In this great city of NY they should have everything.  I have searched and

searched for a key blank for the DeLorean and I could not find one.  I 

just

happen to walk into a community hardware store near Chinatown where I 

park my

cars (I wanted to harass them for fun of it, foolish that I am), guess 

what?

They had it, and more.  More you may ask???  They also got me key blanks 

for

my Bentley (or Rolls Royce), which is non existing.  They are only 

available

from the RROC or the manufacturers-distributors at a "cheap" price of an 

arm

and a half of a leg -- key blanks $15.00.  From this local distributor?  

$2.75

plus a little "handy" scoring to make the relief bigger on the blank to 

fit RR

standard cylinders as designed by the Yale lock company (they had to be

different to get their prices).    
Now I humble myself one more time.  Don't under estimate the "little" 

stores.

I should know better, that is how I use to build up my other businesses.

Store the unusual items and go out of the way to get the customers what 

they

needed as long it is available from a supply source.
Anyway, If I can be of help, please let me know.
Kayo
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 03:27:33 -0400

From: "Joe" <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>

Subject: DML: Re: courtesy fuse blowing
Brock,

What size fuse are you using.

Joe/DeLorean Services 
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 03:05:35 -0400

From: "Joe" <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>

Subject: DML: Re: Dashboard all out of whack!
Sean,

Speedometer; You either have a loose dust shield (plastic cap that your

angle drive plugs into) or a binding angle drive.

Tach: You either have a bad tach feed wire or the gauge is N.G.

Fuel Gauge: You have a defective tank sender, replace it with the 

Tankzilla

from P.J. Grady.

Oil Pressure: This gauge acts erratically in most DeLoreans.

Joe/DeLorean Services  
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 03:17:19 -0400

From: "Joe" <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>

Subject: Re: DML: Re: Re: Alternator or Battery??
Claude.

Yes, the GM Delco 100 amp # 7295-12 (Cadallic late 80's) will fit with the

addition of a longer adjusting arm or universal type. No wiring

modification is required just cut off the existing Ducillier connector and

only use the brown/yellow wire to B+, cut the brown wire back and cap or

tape it. Neither the Delco nor the Motorola use the brown wire.

Joe/DeLorean Services
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 03:52:06 -0400

From: "Joe" <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>

Subject: DML: Re: Cooling Fans
Thomas,

Fuses melting in your cooling fan circuit is not unusual, the cooling fans

draw a lot of current, any loose or dirty connection will cause melting in

this circuit. Before you purchase another fan motor be sure that your

current one is actually bad. If you need to purchase a replacement get one

from one of our DeLorean part suppliers. If you take this route let me 

know

and I'll tell the easiest way to make the change.

Joe/DeLorean Services
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 03:40:52 -0400

From: "Joe" <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>

Subject: DML: Re: new owner with electrical problems
Cole,

First check all of your fuses, once you have done that slide under the car

and check the name on the alternator, if it says Ducillier get rid of it

and replace it with a Motorola or Delco. A more accurate test is to get a

hold of a voltmeter and connect it between your battery terminals or

between the "jump start post" and ground, the reading with the engine off

will be around 12V. Start the engine, the voltage should read between 13

and 14V, if the voltage drops your alternator is probably N.G.

Joe/DeLorean Services
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 06:23:32 -0400

From: Cirillo Ronald A NUWCDIVNPT <CirilloRA(AT)code80.npt.nuwc.navy.mil>

Subject: RE: DML: Antennas
Just one quick comment about antennas before this thread ends.  I have

vin # 768 and have had it since 1984.  I have both antennas.  The one in

the windshield is not used but the power antenna in the rear is.
Ron
> ----------

> From: 	JSteuben(AT)aol.com[SMTP:JSteuben(AT)aol.com]

> Reply To: 	dmcnews(AT)world.std.com

> Sent: 	Friday, August 21, 1998 3:26 PM

> To: 	dmcnews(AT)world.std.com

> Subject: 	Re: DML: Antennas

> 

> Dan is right.  I have vin #1273 and have the windshield embedded antenna. I

> understand that JZD earned his wings at Pontiac partually by coming up

> with that idea.  Its nice not screwing up the lines of the car with an

> antenna. Too bad it doesn't have more poop.  

> 

> Hey, welcome back raddad.  How about a few word regarding you adventure?  

> Best regards, Joe
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 06:44:18 -0500

From: scottmueller(AT)zebra.net (Scott Mueller)

Subject: Re: DML: DML Luggage Rack Installation
kenm(AT)compctr.ccs.csus.edu wrote:

> 

> Greetings

> 

> I finally got the nerve to take a drill to my car and install the

> luggage rack I bought when I was back at the Cincinnati show. I think

> the instructions that came with the rack are junk. Now I have an 82

> car so perhaps it's just that there was a lot of changes between the

> 81's and the 82's but the template on the instructions doesn't match

> my car in the least. It calls to align the template with the mounting

> rivets for the louver struts, which there are none. And if the

> template is aligned with the holes in the edges of the strut mounts

> the rack ends up 3/4 inch too far up on the car and the lovuers would

> jam against the rack mounts. So has anyone else ran into this? I was

> able to properly mount the rack. It's a great addition and I really

> reccomend getting one.

> 

> So before I finish the installation I also wonder if anyone has come

> up with a clever way to reinstall the rubber stops in such a way as

> to hide the luggage rack clips.. like the drawing shows. If you were

> to cut the stops like the drawing, the clips wouldn't lock into place

> to install the rack. The only way I've seen it done is to cut the

> stop into sections around the mounts.

> 

> Thanks in advance and see you in LA!

> 

> -------------------------------------------------------

> Ken Montgomery    My DeLorean VIN #10911



Ken, I had the same problem mounting my rack on my Aug 1981 car.  There

were no rivets.  I assembled the rack and set it on the car in the

approximate location.  Marked and drilled the body.  I also pieced the

weatherstrip around the clips.  The clips do not have to "snap" into

place, the rack will hold them when fastened.  I agree, the instructions

are a bit nebulus.
Scott Mueller
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