DeLorean Mailing List - 12/29/96
dmcnews-digest Sunday, 29 December 1996 Volume 02 : Number 203
In this issue:
RE: Buying a DeLorean
RE: Buying a DeLorean
Re: Recent work done, and HELP!!!
Re: The Red Death
Re: Recent work done, and HELP!!!
Re: Recent work done, and HELP!!!
[none]
Re: The Red Death
Car Reliability & Driver Profile Survey.
Winter storage & rollover switch
Re: John Z. DeLorean Autobio. book seller
Re: binnacle lense replacement
1981 DeLorean For Sale
Re: binnacle lense replacement
Delorean Headroom.
What a GREAT poster / DMC Stuff
Re: DMC Stuff
Re: Delorean Headroom.
Re: Delorean Headroom.
DeLorean For Sale
Re: What a GREAT poster / DMC Stuff
manual
Re: manual
Re: Delorean Headroom.
Re: manual
Living The Dream
Happy Holidays
Re: manual
Delorean Value
RE: Delorean Value
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From: Dan Berglund
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 22:08:39 -0800
Subject: RE: Buying a DeLorean
I don't know what I was thinking, the vin# is 3724.
Assuming it is the one at Sports Cars International.
Sorry,
Dan Berglund
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From: "David Jacobs (Volt Computer)" Date: Tue, 17 Dec
1996 08:08:29 -0800
Subject: RE: Buying a DeLorean
Oh ok. I was able to open the engine cover from the outside on the DeLorean that
I looked at.
But now that I know that there is a latch, I will check for it.
Thanks a bunch!
Dave Jacobs...
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>From: Henry Breer
>Sent: Monday, December 16, 1996 5:53 PM To: dmcnews@world.std.com
>Subject: Re: Buying a DeLorean
>David Jacobs (Volt Computer) wrote:
>>Huge Snip
>>Is there any way to lock the louvre or engine cover?? Hate to think that just
anyone could open that and possibly mess with the engine.
>As others have stated, the louvres just latch at the back, but the engine cover
is secured by a cable release (handle on rear firewall behind the driver's seat)
so engine security isn't any more of a problem on a DeLorean than with any other
car with an inside-release hood.
>Hank Breer
>DOA 4637
>VIN 1141
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From: STANDLOR@aol.com
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 01:48:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Recent work done, and HELP!!!
Matt- Why are you playing around and trying to find chrysler - ford - or any
other auto parts to retrofit to our Delorean. Al l the parts you need are
readily available at Delorean One or DMC in Houston. Gosh man - call them on
their 800 number or fax them a request for price and the parts needed and they
can get it to you quickly if not sooner and you HAVE THE CORRECT PARTS
FOR THE PROBLEM which is half the problems caused by owners of Deloreans.
The relay box kit contains all the correct relays that should be changed and
are all Bosch. It even comes with a diagram where to install what. The door
seals are available from Delorean One as per one of the last few issues of
Delorean World magazine. Stop trying to use other parts to replace the
origional ones on the car and you will find in the long run, you will have a
lot less grief! I am not just talking but I practice
what
I preach. The car I am rebuilding has so much retrofit garbage on it that has
to be removed it has to be seen to be believed. I removed a fabricated
part that holds the right side of the muffler to the car, that had to cost the
former owner at least $100.00 for the mechanic and structural engineer to
design and install whereas the replacement bracket for the same usage is
available from Delorean One for about $14.00, simply bolts on with the original
2 bolts and takes about 10 minutes to install. This is just one example of which
I speak. Over the years at almost all of the conventions it
is repleated over and over again -USE THE PARTS THAT ARE MEANT FOR THE CAR!
But not only is the parts important, but you must understand that the advice
you can receive either directly or by mail or wire or evern by E-mail
from Ed Bernstein from Delorean One or Stephen Wynn from DMC in Houston (by
the way Stephen is a certified mechanic trained originally in England) IS
invaluable and is available freely to their customers. I would like to have
some money for every hour they have given me both day and night and weekends,
at the shop and from their homes. This is important when you run into trouble.
Hope I gave you some help. E-mail me anytime for specific answers
on problems that I can help with. Stan (STANDLOR@aol.com)
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From: AARON1@webtv.net (AARON MILLS)
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 21:33:14 -0500
Subject: Re: The Red Death
Yes, I'm talking about rust. Isaw someone make a note about an engine box falling
apart and an engine onthe ground. I had to say I know the feeling. Just two weeks
ago while going threw a construction zone I struck a large pot hole. I lost most
of my steering. After a wild two mile ride I got my Delorean home . I looked under
the front to see that from just in front of the fuel tank forward was almost on
the ground!!! Therack &pinion was riped from the frame. The car is in great
condition exept for the frame, Ihad known this would someday be a problem when I
bought the car two years ago, but Ihad hoped to put it off for a while longer. I
contacted my insurance co. and they said to get estimates, but all I get are body
shop managers scraching there heads. With any luck my most prized car will some
day see the road again.
AARON MILLS
DOA 4748
VIN# 011554
AARON1@webtv.net
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From: ausmith@pdx.oneworld.com
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:10:00 +0000
Subject: Re: Recent work done, and HELP!!!
Matt,
I concur with Stan, especially when dealing with electrical items like relays.
D1's prices are atrocious but the items work and don't cause smoke or fire. The
exception I've found is the wiper delay delay module. Any brand works better
than the Lucas unit. Having wipers that work is critical where I live, N. OR
coast.
Ed is helpful on the phone. Sometimes his advice is worth exactly what you are
paying for it. I was told it was impossible to re-position a toll-booth window
in its' carrier. It was difficult to remove the glass from the carrier but not
impossible. Now the window works fine. He will also tell you that the window
motors will fail, doom and gloom, but they will work fine if you pay attention
and don't over raise or over lower them. When they hit the top or bottom, take
your finger off the switch!
You should replace the fan module with the fused jumper, not just another relay.
Chris
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From: STANDLOR@aol.com
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 01:57:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Recent work done, and HELP!!!
Chris- the advice I gave Matt I have been giving to other members of Delorean
owners from Ohio for the last 12 years. Do the update kits on the car!!!
Start with the module update kit which includes the jumper for the fan fail
and the colling fan override. Also, any person who wants to keep and enjoy
his/her Delorean for any length of time should obtain past issues of Delorean
World magazine. For your information, there are several "How to do it yourself
" articles including one on how to remove and fix the "toll booth window". I
know as I have just used the article as my guide in changing both
door electric window lift motors. When examining the old motors and tracks,
my only comment was - whew - what a piece of junk. The cable had come out of
the track, the plastic body was broken in several different places, etc. A
real mess. I did buy the new updated ones and installed them and what a difference
they make. By the way, needed a part from Ed and it was not shipped as an oversight.
So I called the local foreign car parts place and
they did have the rotor I needed for the Delorean. Guess what - the price was about
ninty cents more than the price I had paid De 1 and De 1 shipped it
to my door freight included! I have found that none of the parts for our car is cheap
but I also own a Lexus. You think our parts are expensive - you got no idea. Also, I
almost forgot one very important thing - most of the Delorean repair shops guarantee
their parts. Parts are made by people,
and sometimes they just don't work - I have never had a problem with De 1 in
this respect but I have with another parts supplier whom I shall not mention.
I do my own repairs and have done so for almost 15 years. I also drive my
car every day about 50 miles round trip so I have to have dependable transportation.
Thats where dependable parts come into the picture and someone to back that part if
the needed arises. Guys- fix the car right the first time, if you don't know how ask
for help from the experts and from
Delorean World magazine.
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From: CDIUSAMPS@aol.com
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:37:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: [none]
Thu, 19 Dec 1996 03:49:21 -0500
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 03:49:21 -0500
To: dmcnews@world.std.com
Subject: RE: Fuel Question
Sender: dmcnews-approval@world.std.com
Precedence: bulk
Reply-To: dmcnews@world.std.com
Many thanks to Mike Substelny. First off, "panic" is my middle name.
During the time I was working on the fuel system the vehicle was in a garage
at all times and further I would always place the rubber fuel pump cover over
the opening in the tank just to ensure there was no further contamination.
After waiting a few days I tried to start the car again with no luck. I took your
advise and removed everything again and checked the system, but could find nothing
wrong. I then replaced everyting carefully and retightened everything back down.
Lo and behold on about the third crank it
started up and now is running like a charm. Tomorrow I will attempt to refuel and
see if I may have finally taken care of the gas smell. Thanks again and I owe you
a beverage of your choice at the next DMC get together.
BILL
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From: STANDLOR@aol.com
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 04:00:11 -0500
Subject: Re: The Red Death
Aaron: contact Ed Bernstein of Delorean One. He can pick up your car- transport it
to his shop and he specializes in frame repair - re-epoxy- and
even replacement if needed. Cheap it aint but if you want it fixed right go
to someone who knows how to fix Deloreans. from STANDLOR@aol.com
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 10:57:22 -0500
Subject: Car Reliability & Driver Profile Survey.
Has anyone here heard of CarTalk? It's a radio show on NPR and a syndicated newspaper
column.
There are probably few fans of CarTalk in the DML (I think most of their
listeners/readers are young women). But CarTalk has a web site that is conducting a
survey on automobile reliability & driver profiles, and I would like to see the DeLorean
included in the next batch of results. I responded to last year's survey, but they said
their weren't enough DeLorean respondents to get a valid sample (I was probably the only
one), so they threw out my data!
I encourage DeLorean owners to drop by the survey's page and answer the questions
truthfully. It would be nice to see a large sample of data comparing the DeLorean
to other cars. I am also curious to see how DeLorean owners compare to the owners of
other cars. The URL for the survey is:
http://cartalk.com/Info/newsurvey.html
- -Mike Substelny
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 11:33:10 -0500
Subject: Winter storage & rollover switch
I have always heard that when a car is stored it is a good idea to crank the engine a
little before starting it. The reason is that after sitting for weeks or months the oil
will all have run down into the oil pan, so you want to circulate it a little at low
RPM using your starter before actually revving the engine.
For most cars the easiest thing to do is disconnect the distributor wire, crank the
engine a few times, then reconnect the wire and start the engine a few minutes later
(in case the cylinders are flooded).
I am wondering if it might be easier in a DeLorean to simply pull out the rollover
switch instead of messing with the distributor. Since this disables the fuel pump it
will have the dual effect of allowing the engine to crank without starting and prevent
flooding at the same time. It is also much easier to do on a cold winter day.
This idea seems superior, but I'm not convinced so I haven't tried it yet. I have also
heard that it is bad to run the fuel injector system without fuel. I think it can hurt
the fuel distributor, and I certainly don't want a damaged fuel distributor!
Can anyone shed some light here? Will a *little* cranking with the fuel pump disabled
really damage the fuel distributor?
- -Mike Substelny
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From: michael richard pack Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:50:42 -0500
(EST) Subject: Re: John Z. DeLorean Autobio. book seller
I have tried to reply to Dd152@aol.com to reserve a copy of the book for sale. The
server I am with would not let me reply to your address. Please contact me at home,
telephone 410-551-3107 after December 19, 1996.
Thank you
Michael Pack
P.S.
Does anyone out there know how to replace the binnacle lens? Are new lens available?
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From: James Espey
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 96 15:23:54 -0000
Subject: Re: binnacle lense replacement
>Does anyone out there know how to replace the binnacle lens? Are new lens available?
THe lense is easily replaced by removing the binnacle and the instrument cluster from
it. THe lense has just a few screws holding it in place. I do not aknow about the
availability of the lens itself, but I would think that KAPAC would be the best place
to start looking.
James "Mikasa" Espey
Happy Holidays - buy a poster!
http://www.goodnet.com/~mikasa/poster.html New for '97 - http://www.dmcnews.com/
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From: michael richard pack Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:38:12 -0500
(EST) Subject: 1981 DeLorean For Sale
Vin # 4414 October 1981
5-Speed transmission
Grey Leather interior
Car is totally origional and in excellent shape. Owner purchased car in Peoria ILL. in
1986. Sight unseen. Car now has 27, 216 miles.
Owner has won several awards at car shows with this fine example. Available many extra
parts & manuals and DeLorean Car information. Car is in Pennsylvania
Please contact: Charles (Pete) Zoller
E-mail Pistolpetez@msn.com
telephone 215 297-8087
fax 215 297-9780
Upon contact please mention this ad.
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From: STANDLOR@aol.com
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:23:27 -0500
Subject: Re: binnacle lense replacement
In a message dated 96-12-21 12:05:05 EST, you write:
<< Does anyone out there know how to replace the binnacle lens? Are new lens
>available? >>
Jim told you that the binnicle has to be removed in order to get at the lens
itself which is held in place by a few screws. When removing the binnicle be
very careful NOT to damage the speedomoter resetting kno\b - they are notreplaceable at
this time. Also be careful not to damage the circut plastic
sheet which is on the reverse side of the instruments and which houses the plug ins for
the controls which must be released in order to remove the binnicle. The connectors at
the plug in points are suseptible to easy damage
if not handled gingerly!
You can try k-PAC in Columbus Ohio or Delorean ONE in California for the lens.
Don"t know k-PAC's no. but D1 is 1-800-DMC HELP. If I remember correctly the
lens was in short supply about 2 years ago, when someone at the convention asked about
the availability. If you need more detailed instructions to access this area - E-mail
me and I shall try to help.
STANDLOR@aol.com
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From: Marcus Agua
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 13:12:56 -0600
Subject: Delorean Headroom.
Can anyone tell me how much headroom is in a Delorean? I'm thinking = about buying
one, but I'm a tall guy (6'5) and most cars do not have the = room for me. Is the
DMC above, below, or about average in this = department?
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From: Jack Danuke
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 96 14:32:15 -0000
Subject: What a GREAT poster / DMC Stuff
Early last week I ordered one of James' posters and it arrived in yesterdays mail.
All I can say is WOW! Even though the web apge says it's 19 x 28, it sure seems
bigger now that I have it in my hands. The color is bright and vibrant, and the
setting with the mountain in the background is really cool, too.
An added "bonus" that he didn't mention is that he's including a 5x7 shot of the
same photo in with each poster - I'll probably get one of those little frmaes and
put it on my desk at work - assuming I can get it back from my son who wants it for
his locker at school.
Also, I'd like to get some more DeLorean-related items, can someone tell me what
else is out there that I should be looking for?
JZD in NJ
(no, not that one)
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From: James Espey
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 96 14:32:07 -0000
Subject: Re: DMC Stuff
This is a list of the things that I can think of off the top of my head that I have
tucked away in various places thoughout my home - anyone know of other things that
I should be looking for?
Stainless Steel Illusion
Dream Maker
Hard Driving
Grand Delusions
DeLorean
On a Clear Day You can See General Motors DeLorean Tapes
Motor Makers of Northern Ireland
Automobile Quarterly, Vol 21, #2
A whole bunch of Car and Driver, Road and Track and Motor Trend magazines Special
Interest Autos, June 1995
Playboy, October 1985
Contemporary Christian Magazine, Oct and Nov 85
Tri-fold DMC brochures (2 versions)
Black cover brochure
DMC "Corporate" Newsletter
Simulated leather cover multi-page brochure 81 and 82 owners manuals
Tech, Parts and Service manuals
Big poster with press clippings
Also, I'll buy or trade for just about anything not on this list - whatcha got?
James "Mikasa" Espey
Start '97 with a new DeLorean - or at least a poster of one!
http://www.goodnet.com/~mikasa/poster.html
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From: STANDLOR@aol.com
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 00:03:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Delorean Headroom.
In a message dated 96-12-22 14:55:49 EST, you write:
<< Can anyone tell me how much headroom is in a Delorean? >> The Delorean was mad
to fit at least anyone who was the same height as John D
( which was 6ft 5in). By the adjustment of the seat backwards and the indention in
the door which makes headroom there shoud be enough room for you. BUT, be aware,
that you will be probobly driving somewhat in a lying backward position. It
sometimes takes a little getting used to but its not
too bad unless you drive with bifocals etc. Then you need a little pillow for the
head to keep from getting a stiff neck. STANDLOR@aol.com
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From: Scott Tester Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996
22:30:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Delorean Headroom.
At 01:12 PM 12/22/96 -0600, you wrote:
>Can anyone tell me how much headroom is in a Delorean? I'm thinking = about buying
one, but I'm a tall guy (6'5) and most cars do not have the = room for me. Is the
DMC above, below, or about average in this = department?
>If I remember correctly the DeLorean was made with the tall person in mind.
John DeLorean is pretty tall and naturally made his car to fit almost everyone.
The DMC is above average in headroom and fits a tall person well.
Scott Tester testersd@appstate.campus.mci.net
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From: jason74@juno.com (Jason T Brown)
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 06:58:27 PST
Subject: DeLorean For Sale
someone emailed me about a delorean for sale in NC and Virginia. Was it anyone on
this list. My email address is DieHard14@aol.com
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From: Raymond_Haug@lamg.com (Raymond Haug) Date: 22 Dec 1996 18:54:34 GMT
Subject: Re: What a GREAT poster / DMC Stuff
On 12/22/96 at 2:32 PM, dmcnews@world.std.com wrote:
d> Also, I'd like to get some more DeLorean-related items, can someone tell
d> me what else is out there that I should be looking for?
Check out the "Wild DeLorean Shirts" and "Hot Plates" plus the DeLorean Gold
Porfolio at the home page of the DeLorean Owners Association located at:
www.delorean-owners.org
Also great video of the history of the DeLorean produced by Ulster TV - Back
from the Future
Ray Haug
Chapter 12 Coordinator
DeLorean Owners Association
Raymond_Haug@lamg.com
- - via BulkRate 2.5
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From: "rudy stoltzmann" Date: 23 Dec 1996 14:58:28 -0000
Subject: manual
I remember someone posted a message some time ago asking if there is a Chilton
type manual for the DeLorean. Someone else answered that there isn't a Chilton
book for the DeLorean but that the factory made a couple of 3 ring binder manuals
for the dealers. Where could I get these 2 manuals? Do any of you have an extra
copy you dont want or are willing to make copies?
THanks,
rudy11@hotmail.com
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From: STANDLOR@aol.com
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 01:34:02 -0500
Subject: Re: manual
In a message dated 96-12-23 11:56:52 EST, you write:
<< Someone else
answered that there isn't a Chilton book for the DeLorean but that the factory
made a couple of 3 ring binder manuals for the dealers. Where could I get these
2 manuals? >>
There are actually several books available on the Delorean. Contact Ed Bernstein
of Delorean One at 1-800-DMC-HELP for the following
a) Delorean Workshop Manual
b) DMC Technical Owners Guide and Parts Manual (Black Hardbound Cover) c) DMC Tech.
Owners Guide and Parts Manual (Black Hardbound Cover) but
the 1'st page state "Delorean Workshop Manual" It is similar to the
other book yet it is different.
The workshop manual is a condensation of the above b & c and should be adaquate in
most cases. The best source above the 3 manuals is still Delorean World magazines
with the technical "HOW TO" sections which over the
years has covered about 60% of the common problems and how to fix or solve them.
The only problem with the magazine is the club is "Sue shy" and is afraid to
come out with any new repair ideas. Understandably! Hope this info helps. Other than
D1 don't know of any one else with any other books. Perhaps you might contact K-pack
in Columbus if they might have
any of the original Delorean Shop Manuals. Don't think they do but it is worth a try.
1-800-854-6087
STANDLOR@aol.com
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From: ausmith@pdx.oneworld.com
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 06:00:47 +0000
Subject: Re: Delorean Headroom.
Marcus,
I'm 6'4" and don't find headroom a problem. My seat is fully reclined and as far back
as I can get it. I like the driving position but do find getting in and out difficult,
a little. I think most of that is do to the car being lowered.
Chris
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From: James Espey
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 96 08:08:47 -0000
Subject: Re: manual
>>Someone else
>>answered that there isn't a Chilton book for the DeLorean but that the factory made
a couple of 3 ring binder manuals for the dealers. Where could I get these 2 manuals? >>
>There are actually several books available on the Delorean. Contact Ed Bernstein of
Delorean One at 1-800-DMC-HELP for the following
aa) Delorean Workshop Manual
>b) DMC Technical Owners Guide and Parts Manual (Black Hardbound Cover) c) DMC Tech.
Owners Guide and Parts Manual (Black Hardbound Cover) but
tthe 1'st page state "Delorean Workshop Manual" It is similar to the other book yet it
is different.
Though not actually a "repair" manual, another DMC publication that has proven invaluable
to me has been the parts manual. It's good for showing what is where and how it goes
together. It's also a **must** when ordering parts as it contains all the part numbers.
All of the manuals mentioned above are available from any of the parts/service facilities
with the exception of KAPAC, who I spoke to last week and was told that they no longer
sell manuals.
James "Mikasa" Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com New for '97 - http://www.dmcnews.com/
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From: raddad@cmn.net
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 08:21:47 -0700
Subject: Living The Dream
>From the land where the sky is blue, the air is crstal clear, the sun is
bright and the snow is DEEP, Merry Christmas to all.
Dick Ryan
The Rad Dad
Steamboat Springs, CO
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From: zerkle
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 18:00:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Happy Holidays
Dear Fellow DeLorean Enthusiasts,
A very happy holidays to you and your family. I hope that you have a very Merry
Christmas and a happy new year! Thanks for all of your friendships throughout this
crazy and hectic year. Well, I hope that you are all doing
well and that your lives are smooth and exciting. As I recall all that has
happened to me and my friends, like you, I have come to a conclusion that this time
of year is the reason we go through the rest of the year. So that
we have something to talk about and look back on. So, as we roll on the feasts and make
merry, with those weird relatives that pinch your cheeks we
can turn yearly events into one time conversation. (all of these are reasons
that we don't usually have relatives over!!!) Still, there is the spirit factor. Well,
take care and the best of the season to you and your family.
Good luck in all of that you do and please, keep in touch! A wonderful new
year to you as well. May this wonderful GullWing car carry us all into paradise! See
you soon!
Sincerely,
Geren Piltz
zerkle@west.net
MiniReal Industries
http://www.west.net/~zerkle
The Time-Traveler's Information Kiosk
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From: STANDLOR@aol.com
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 21:59:54 -0500
Subject: Re: manual
In a message dated 96-12-24 11:26:44 EST, you write:
<< though not actually a "repair" manual, another DMC publication that has
proven invaluable to me has been the parts manual. >>
JIM ESPEY is exactly correct! The parts manual is great and a very invaluable piece of
necessary "equipment" for any serious Delorean owner anywhere outside of LA or Houston.
It shows the parts, they way they go together in the fittings, etc. and numbers them,
locates them, and gives the
ordering part numbers when a replacement is needed. However, it is NOT 100%
accurate as D1 and I found out on several parts which were shown backwards in
the diagrams. Also, the parts manual are a PART OF the Delorean workshop manual . The
Dunmurrey editon also shows you step by step HOW TO in most catagories, take apart the
engine completely, remove the window glass, repalce the fan motor for the heater, time
the car, etc.,etc. ! I use all these manuals as Guides, when doing repairs, as well as
Delorean World when
applicable.
Jim if you have never seen these manuals ,stop by before or after 2nd Sat. just a couple
miles north of the Pavillions at my home and I can show them and others to you.
Stan M.
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From: Duke Bladorn
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 00:22:05 -0600
Subject: Delorean Value
This may really seem like a stupid comment, but why couldn't we, as Delorean
owners, say "Ok....all excellent condition Deloreans are worth around $180,000; decent
Deloreans are worth $150,000; and bad Deloreans are worth
$85,000 give or take a few thousand here or there on any of the above." Considering we
are the ones that own these cars and they don't make them anymore, if enough members
decided to go along with something like this, why
wouldn't it work???? Who would really care if collector magazines said that
the cars aren't worth that much. Delorean owners basically have a 'corner on the market'
so to speak. It just makes me feel bad that such a worthy car as the Delorean sells for
as low as $12,000 considering the kind of car
it is and the history behind it. Most people are shocked when they find out
you can get one so cheap. Everyone I talk to always thinks the car costs around $60,000
to $125,000. I know I would love to be able to sell mine for
that much! Oh well, just a thought!!!!???!!!!
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From: Mike Asher
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:11:29 -0600
Subject: RE: Delorean Value
For a simple reason; supply and demand. Your grand scheme would = collapse the first
time any Delorean owner-needing money and unable to = sell at the hundred-grand
level-decided to break ranks. Of course, = you could always buy up a few hundred of
them and "corner the market" = yourself-a risky strategy at best. Capitalism is a
wonderful = contrivance, isn't it?
- --
Mike Asher
masher@tusc.net
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>From: Duke Bladorn[SMTP:duke@entremob.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 1996 12:22
AM To: dmcnews@world.std.com
>Subject: Delorean Value
>This may really seem like a stupid comment, but why couldn't we, as=20 Delorean
>owners, say "Ok....all excellent condition Deloreans are worth around $180,000;
decent Deloreans are worth $150,000; and bad Deloreans are=20 worth
>$85,000 give or take a few thousand here or there on any of the above." Considering
we are the ones that own these cars and they don't make them anymore, if enough
members decided to go along with something like this, =
>why
>wouldn't it work???? Who would really care if collector magazines said=20 that
>the cars aren't worth that much. Delorean owners basically have a = 'corner
>on the market' so to speak. It just makes me feel bad that such a = worthy
>car as the Delorean sells for as low as $12,000 considering the kind of=20 car
>it is and the history behind it. Most people are shocked when they find =
>out
>you can get one so cheap. Everyone I talk to always thinks the car = costs
>around $60,000 to $125,000. I know I would love to be able to sell mine =
>for
>that much! Oh well, just a thought!!!!???!!!!
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