DeLorean Mailing List - 12/04/97


Thursday, December 4 1997       Volume 03 : Number 308


       In this issue:
        DML: Ignition system
        DML: Relays
        DML: Speedo
        DML: AC/Heater fan does not work
        DML: ADMIN NOTE: Web pages updated
        Re: DML: Relays
        DML: Fwd: Columbus Video
        DML: A Delorean look-alike .........
        DML: Re: AC/Heater fan does not work
        Re: DML: A Delorean look-alike .........
        DML: Re: A Delorean look-alike .........
        Re: DML: A Delorean look-alike .........
        DML: AC/Heater fan does not work
        DML: exhaust leak?
        DML: Suggestion for "DeLorean Look-Alike"
        DML: Fwd: Observations at an owners meeting
        DML: Re: DML Columbus Video
        DML: Pewter DeLorean
        DML: Aaron Barrus - please email me!
        Re: DML: Pewter DeLorean

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 97 02:18:09 PST
From: "Brandon S. Moody" 
Subject: DML: Ignition system

Has anyone ever updated  ignition system with
something a little more modern ?  I was just wondering
if anyone had any they recomended or didn't.

- -Brandon

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 10:36:01 -0600
From: "Tom Hullett" 
Subject: DML: Relays

Hi:

The relays in the De Lorean have part numbers stamped on their covers 
that are not De Lorean part numbers.  Does anyone know who manufactures 
them and if they are also used in some other car.  Thanks a lot.

Tom

V. T. Hullett
HC 64, Box 216-H
Flippin, AR  72634
(870)453-5335
thullett@southshore.com

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 15:02:20 -0500 (EST)
From: WINGD2@aol.com
Subject: DML: Speedo

About the 170MPH speedo,  While at the Kapac Open House a few weeks back
I talked to Steve Wynn about the reworked speedos and asked if his company
offered this service. He told me he could get the conversion done, but that
he did not like the 170mph version.  He said that by doubling the range of
the unit the speedo looses much of its accuracy and smoothness at lower
speeds. He then sent me out back to look at his car.  It had a 140mph speedo
in it which Steve told me was Factory Stock. He said a few cars were actually
made with 140mph speedos. He said he finds the 140mph speedo to be much more
accurate at lower speeds and at the same time much more realistic of the cars
actual capabilities on the top end. I asked if he was going to offer this
140mph version as a conversion and all he would say is it was something he
was going to look into when (or if) he had time. Does anyone on the list 
have one of these "Factory" 140mph units in their car ?              Marty

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 18:05:58 -0600
From: Bob 
Subject: DML: AC/Heater fan does not work

Suddenly, with the onset of winter I have no response from any position of
the selector switch that will allow any passage of air into the cockpit.
All was working fine until winter's onset and I switched on the heater for
the first time.  Nothing happened at all.  I get no vacum action and not
fan response. I went back to try the AC and again nothing.  I have checked
all of the fuses and they are all good.  The relays are inscrutible to me
and I do not know how to test a relay.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks Bob Mims Tyler, Texas
						bmims@tyler.net

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 97 21:02:43 -0700
From: James Espey 
Subject: DML: ADMIN NOTE: Web pages updated

Despite an over abundance of relatives, football, food and drink this 
long weekend, I was able to get the new pages uploaded to the 
server.There are still a few broken links and some things I need to clean 
up - email me with things that you find. 

Significant new items:

Back issues updated through #306
QuickTime movie of the ride around the test track
Latest DeLorean Owners Directory in the Lounge
Production Chronology updated
Links page revised

Enjoy!

James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com

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Date: Mon, 01 Dec 97 00:10:39 PST
From: "Brandon S. Moody" 
Subject: Re: DML: Relays

> Hi:
> 
> The relays in the De Lorean have part numbers stamped on their covers =
> that are not De Lorean part numbers.  Does anyone know who manufactures =
> them and if they are also used in some other car.  Thanks a lot.
> 

With the exception of the Red, green, white, and blue relay,  the rest are just
plain jane relays,   The original ones are not the best quality,  so your better off
just to replace them with new Bosch or something.

- -BM

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Date: Sun, 30 Nov 97 22:40:59 -0700
From: James Espey 
Subject: DML: Fwd: Columbus Video

Please remember to send all postings to "dmcnews@world.std.com" - thanks!


- ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ----------------
Date:        11/09  6:05 PM
Received:    11/09  9:46 PM
From:        ABatt10347@aol.com
To:          Moderator@dmcnews.com

I noticed that there were a couple of people filming (camcorders) at the
warehoue in Columbus last weekend. If you were one of these people would you
contact me about making a copy?  I only wished I had brought mine! Hind sight
is always 20/20 ( or is that just a TV show?). I can be reached at
ABatt10347@aol.com
          Bruce Battles
          Vin# 6569

- ------------------ End Forwarded Message -----------------

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Date: 01 Dec 1997 08:06:59 -0600
From: "Kemp, Nick (MN10)" 
Subject: DML: A Delorean look-alike .........

A number of years ago I was in Chicago for business.  We were making the 
usual mad dash for the airport, hopeing that our plane would be delayed 
so 
that we would make it.  We passed a flatbed truck that was carrying a car 
that I did and did not recognize.  What I recognized was the very 
Delorean'ish appearance.  It had the straight square lines and the grill 
work was very similar to the Delorean.  It was wider and longer than a 
typical Delorean.  It had four traditional doors and was painted.  It 
looked 
very much look like what would be a modern day 4 door Delorean.  What I 
didn't recognize was the emblem.  It was not any US or Japanese 
manufacturer.

Since we were not going to slow down for a better look, this is all I 
know 
about the vehicle.  Does anyone have any idea as to what it was?

We made the plane with moments, but no breath, to spare.

NK

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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:16:24 -0500
From: "Geoffroy Birtz" 
Subject: DML: Re: AC/Heater fan does not work

- ----------
> From: Bob 

> Suddenly, with the onset of winter I have no response from any position of
> the selector switch that will allow any passage of air into the cockpit.
> Does anyone have any suggestions?
> Thanks Bob Mims Tyler, Texas
>

check your vacuum hose in the engine compartment, sounds like it got
disconnected

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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:07:25 +0000 (GMT)
From: Martin Gutkowski 
Subject: Re: DML: A Delorean look-alike .........

I posted a question ages ago asking if there was a link between the DeLo
and a Lancia "Monte Carlo" that I saw at a motor show. I forget if it was
a 4-door, but it looked so like a D that I had to look twice to make sure
I wasn't seeing things.

Martin


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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:41:25 -0500
From: "Geoffroy Birtz" 
Subject: DML: Re: A Delorean look-alike .........

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> From: Kemp, Nick (MN10) 
> Since we were not going to slow down for a better look, this is all I 
> know 
> about the vehicle.  Does anyone have any idea as to what it was?
> 
Aston martin langoda. maybe.

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Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 15:31:30 -0600
From: Chris Halliwell 
Subject: Re: DML: A Delorean look-alike .........

Probably an Aston Martin Lagonda sedan.

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Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 04:13:02 -0600
From: "Tom Hullett" 
Subject: DML: AC/Heater fan does not work

Hi Bob:

I recently had a realy problem and found that I was able to test it by 
removing the relay, using my battery charger on the coil tabs to 
energise it, then used an ohm meter to check the points.  They were bad. 
 I then removed the can (by bending out the crimped tabs with a jewlers 
screw driver).  I had to bend up the normaly open point to clean the 
center point and then bend the normaly open point back to it original 
position.  It worked but I don't know how much bending you can get away 
with so be careful.  If it passes the test of course your problem is 
else where. 

I think after reading this you will see the reason for my previous post 
regarding replacing relays.

Tom

V. T. Hullett
HC 64, Box 216-H
Flippin, AR  72634
(870)453-5335
thullett@southshore.com

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Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 00:44:10 -0600
From: Jameel Ahed 
Subject: DML: exhaust leak?

Dear DML,
    I have a question...  When accelerating has anyone heard a
"shhhhhhh" noise?  It is not a tick tick tick noise but at certain
points in the acceleration curve I hear a shhhh noise. I was told a tick
tick noise was a leaky exhaust.., if this is the case what is the shhh
noise.?  I know it is coming from the rear and maybe even the rear
passenger side.  I am not sure what it is..
Jameel


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Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 11:56:26 -0500
From: Mike Substelny 
Subject: DML: Suggestion for "DeLorean Look-Alike"

Nick Kemp described a "DeLorean look-alike" . . .

> What I recognized was the very Delorean'ish appearance.  It had
> the straight square lines and the grill work was very similar to the
> Delorean.  It was wider and longer than a typical Delorean.  It had
> four traditional doors and was painted.  It looked very much look like
> what would be a modern day 4 door Delorean.  What I didn't
> recognize was the emblem.  It was not any US or Japanese 
> manufacturer.

Could this have been an Aston-Martin Lagonda?  This is a very-expensive
car that fits your description quite well.  Typically a car like this will
always be transported by truck or trailer.  There are two pictures of
Lagondas in the Classic Car Picture Archive:

http://www.archive.vintageweb.net/english.htm

Perhaps best know to Americans for their DB-5 model that James Bond
drove, Aston-Martin is neither American nor Japanese.  It's British, like 
the DeLorean.  Their Lagonda model was made in very limited quantities
during the 1980s.

I hope this helps.

- - Mike Substelny

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Date: Wed, 3 Dec 97 06:31:15 -0000
From: James Espey 
Subject: DML: Fwd: Observations at an owners meeting

Leif Montin, who I had the great pleasure of meeting at the DeLorean 
Motor Company warehouse in Ohio last month, sent me this nice letter 
about his experience at the event.

James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com/

- ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ----------------
Date:        12/03  3:51 AM
Received:    12/03  6:12 AM
From:        Leif Montin
To:          espey@dmcnews.com

Being a former DeLorean Motor Company employee and a DMC12 owner, I want to
share my observations at a recent DeLorean owners meeting in Columbus, Ohio,
November 1 and 2, sponsored by the new DMC and its owner and president,
Stephen Wynne.

Having had the responsibility for the original DMC Parts Department
administration and the initial set-up of parts supply and distribution, it
was my objective to always have sufficient parts supply on hand to adequately
service the vehicles we brought into this country, to the satisfaction of the
car investor/owner.

To that point, I feel it was a success throughout the short life span of the
company and it was sad to see a viable project fail, especially as the reason
for failure can be attributed to fatal errors in judgement rather than
product failure.

Over the past 15 years, I have been supplying information of parts suppliers
and manufacturers to Stephen Wynne, who, as myself, has the ambition to
provide the best possible service and parts availability, assuring owners
that their investment in this unique product was not a waste.

 I was part of the closing of the plant in Belfast, Northern Ireland and
shipment of a massive parts inventory to the US and Kapac warehouse in
Columbus, as well as  working with Marvin Katz to set it up. It is therefore
extremely satisfying to realize that with Stephen Wynne's acquisition of 
that parts inventory, DeLorean owners now have the advantage of excellent parts
and service support for years to come.

For me, it was a privilege to be invited to the owners meeting in Columbus
and I enjoyed the enthusiasm of the owners being able to tour the warehouse,
marvel over the inventories, find and pick the parts they needed and 
wanted.

Stephen Wynne and DMC, Houston with their attitude and knowledge will not
only be able to provide service and parts availability for the car, they 
will surely contribute to the enhancement of the cars value and ensure its
position among "Classic Cars".

I want to congratulate all DeLorean owners, that can now drive their cars
with less worry and I want to thank Stephen Wynne for the opportunity to 
see the seed I was part of planting coming into full bloom.

Leif R. Montin, ex DMC Parts Director


- ----------------- End Forwarded Message -----------------

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Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 16:45:18 -0500
From: Wade Shapiro 
Subject: DML: Re: DML Columbus Video

I would love to get a copy of this home video(s) also! If someone does 
have
this tape, please email me also:

Wade Shapiro
shapiro3@ix.netcom.com

THANKS!

> I noticed that there were a couple of people filming (camcorders) at the
> warehoue in Columbus last weekend. If you were one of these people would
> you
> contact me about making a copy?  I only wished I had brought mine! Hind
> sight
> is always 20/20 ( or is that just a TV show?). I can be reached at
> ABatt10347@aol.com
>           Bruce Battles
>           Vin# 6569
>

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Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 17:56:47 -0500 (EST)
From: WINGD2@aol.com
Subject: DML: Pewter DeLorean

     This is some old info I think some of the new guys on the list may be
interested in.  
      Last year I found a company in England called Autosculpt which makes a
hand made miniature Delorean from a resin and aluminum powder which looks
just like pewter. It is approx 1/72 scale  ( about 2" long) and, altho it 
has no moving parts, it is very well detailed. It makes a very nice Delorean
collectable.  Just ask James, I think he's gotten a few. The really nice 
part is they only cost $11.00 ea.

       If your interested, the exclusive USA distributor is a place called
"Morris Manor Collectables" in Washington state.  Give Lori a call at
253-891-2775 or e-mail her at "morrcoll@nwlink.com. She'll be happy to 
help you. 

      Autosculpt also has about 100 plus other cars in this same line. 
Here again, Lori can tell you whats avaliable.

       Happy Holidays,    Marty

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Date: Wed, 3 Dec 97 09:30:10 -0000
From: James Espey 
Subject: DML: Aaron Barrus - please email me!

Aaron, my mail to to you is getting returned, please email me!

James

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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 01:16:06 +0000 (GMT)
From: Martin Gutkowski 
Subject: Re: DML: Pewter DeLorean

Hi,

I'll phone directory enquiries and see if I can find "Autosculpt" direct.

Martin

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