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5167. Danrc30                   Re: Want your VIN rerport run free 2?
5168. DeLorean31(AT)aol.com        Re: Automatic  opening gullwing doors??
5169. Christopher Hawes         Air filter on the DMC-12
5170. Ann & Ed Thompson         Re: battery cut-off switch
5171. Danny Smith               Re: Original Suspension
5172. Dmcjal(AT)aol.com            Re: Original Suspension
5173. Rob Hook                  Re: Water Pump Replacement
5174. ajl521(AT)aol.com            D is for daily driver
5175. DMC83in99(AT)aol.com         Re: Want your VIN rerport run free 2?
5176. Mark Noeltner             Re: Air filter on the DMC-12
5177. DMC Joe                   Re: New DeLorean
5178. Josh Haldeman             Another Funny Story
5179. Darryl Tinnerstet         Re: remote opening doors
5180. Aldo Buono                De Lorean Midatlantic Holiday Social
5181. Mitchell, Devin           Running VIN numbers - READ
5182. Scott Mueller             Re: Another Funny Story
5183. mquinto                   Re: Automatic opening gullwing doors
5184. Jesse D. Sightler         Re: new store at DMC Houston
5185. R. Haslewood              The Best of Motor Trend
5186. kevin & ann miller        No Subject
5187. raddad(AT)cmn.net            Re: Another Funny Story
5188. Gus Schlachter            Re: Want your VIN rerport run free 2?
5189. Gus Schlachter            Service Denied: Update
5190. Lee                       Re: Original Suspension
5191. David Sontos              Re: Need paint codes
5192. OutaTimeJT(AT)aol.com        (no subject)
5193. JCox4001(AT)aol.com          VIN CHECK
5194. yugoman                   Bidster Automotive Auction (http://www.bidster.co
5195. Michael Babb              CarFax VIN History
5196. Matthew Lach              vin check
5197. ROBLAMROCK(AT)aol.com        Re: gas flap
5198. Erik Geerdink             antifreeze leak
5199. NJP548(AT)aol.com            Re: CarFax VIN History
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From: "Danrc30" <Danrc30(AT)hotmail.com>
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 02:22:41 -0500
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I went to the site, but it doesn't seem to me to offer the service of
checking out a cars history...
----- Original Message -----
From: Mitchell, Devin <devin.mitchell(AT)eds.com>
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Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 12:28 AM
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>
> Actually now that I look at it again I've noticed I don't have to use
> my password, so feel free to run your VIN report yourself.  My account
> name is "devin_mitchell(AT)yahoo.com", and you can access the database
> from www.carmax.com then click on "account access".
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Devin
>
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From: DeLorean31(AT)aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 05:36:46 EST
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Subject: [DML] Re: Automatic  opening gullwing doors??
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Rob Grady at PJ Grady is currently working on this type of system.  I saw the 
prototype on his Grren DeLorean with the remotes.  Looks great.  Give him a 
call for more information.
Gary Gore
Activities Director
DeLorean Mid Atlantic
In a message dated 12/4/99 12:09:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
devin.mitchell(AT)eds.com writes:
<< Has anyone thought of or done a modification to have the gullwing doors
 automatically?  It's my understanding that when the doors are properly
 configured they should open with very little effort.  If an actuator is
 placed somewhere inside the door frame to push the door a bit after
 it's unlocked and unlatched, then when that actuator is activated do
 you think the doors would open up?  Used in conjunction with an alarm
 system that will give you expansion options (e.g. Alpine 8080) I think
 this might be possible.  Just thought I'd throw the idea out there to
 get others opinions...
 
 Devin Mitchell >>
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From: "Christopher Hawes" <cmhdevelopment(AT)hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 12:34:44 GMT
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I purchased a K&N 57i air induction filter kit for my Opel Manta and I will 
DEFINATELY be purchasing one for my DMC (When I buy one).
The K&N never has to be replaced!!!!
It also helps the engine to breath more easily and on my Manta I could hear 
the distinctive 'induction' sucking noise.  It sounded great and with the 
Big Bore exhaust on the back and noticed an increase in acceleration.  Of 
course with the exhaust too the whole engine sucks and breathes out at the 
other end more efficiently.....
On the DMC the induction noise will be probably hardly heard but I think it 
is worth fitting.  Just think how much you spend on a new air-filter every 
time you service your Delorean!!!!!
I never had the car tested to find the exact horse power increase.  I think 
26 is a little unrealistic!!!!
Just my 2 pence worth!!!
Chris
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Rory A. Robinson" <rorx77(AT)aol.com>
Has anyone else seen the Mac Neil Automotive web site?
They say they have a 26hp increase exxhuast system from Borla, Borla
said they don't have any idea what Mac neil is talking about. They also said 
they have a K$N airfilter which increases hp in the Delorean. Is this site 
for real or should I stay away from them?
Rory
VIN# 3510
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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 07:32:42 -0500
From: Ann & Ed Thompson <RappaRivaRat(AT)erols.com>
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>  Can anyone recommand a "BATTERY CUT-OFF" switch 
>  and where best to install?
>  Bill
WirthCo, Inc. Battery Disconnect Switches, from J.C. Whitney:
Side terminal mount, #73YN3837U $20,
or top terminal mount #73YN3444R $20,
or top terminal mount with stud and wing
nut for accessories #15YN8027Y $22
Install at battery.  Simple, no muss no fuss.  Easy to
install and easy to get at.  There are many others 
available.  "Guest" makes several types, generally available
from most any marine supplier.
Regards,
Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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From: DJS912(AT)webtv.net (Danny Smith)
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 08:39:46 -0500 (EST)
In-Reply-To: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com>'s message of Fri, 03 Dec 1999 17:52:34 -0500
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Beware (or at least check often) the old cut and switch spring trick. I
did this many years ago and all seemed fine until I took the D in for
some routine maintaince a couple of years ago and we saw that  the front
(driver's side) spring had broken and shifted slightly. This was totally
unnoticeable when she was down on all fours,nor did it seem to affect
handling, so I have no idea how long I had this situation. I really love
the look of the car with the cut and switch because you can get her to
sit very low (more so than any of the newer alternitives) so I replaced
both front cut springs with the same. I realize that the aftermarket
sets are better for the car's geometry (is that the right word?) and at
some point I will go to them. Needless to say it makes me a bit
concerned now that I'm a little older and wiser and if I drove the car
oftener then I do, it would be sooner then later.
Dan  -  7065    

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 10:14:45 EST
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I hate to beat anything to death - however, changing the height does have a 
negative effect on your bumper height to OTHER vehicles if  you have an 
accident.  Also, aiming of headlights and without attention to camber and 
caster negative handling effects.
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From: Rob Hook <rob_hook(AT)pop.net>
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 10:52:11 -0500
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Jim,
I have the carquest on my car right now.  It works but the shaft is a 
little longer than the stock DeLorean one causing it to stick out about 1.5 
inches longer than the stock shaft.  It makes no difference functionally 
and will only cause problems if your car is being judged for concourse. 
 You probably have to remove the intake manifold to get it off.  When 
you're putting the pump back on, it's possible to orient the hose clamps in 
such a way that you won't have to remove the manifold next time.  You'll 
see what I mean once you start working on it.
--Rob Hook
P.S. You have to have the pulley pressed off of the old pump.  The SHAFT is 
pressed through the back of the old pump to remove the pulley.  It's 
possible to 'press' it onto the new one with a bolt, a washer and a short 
length of pipe.
-----Original Message-----
From:	Jim Landry [SMTP:jimland(AT)home.com]
Sent:	Friday, December 03, 1999 10:16 PM
To:	dmcnews(AT)eGroups.com
Subject:	[DML] Water Pump Replacement
Has anybody replaced their water pump with a alternate source water
pump. One of the Parts Cross Reference lists shows a Carquest 9146 or
9147 pump as a replacement.
Jim
Vin#4748
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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 09:52:37 -0800
From: ajl521(AT)aol.com
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Subject: [DML] D is for daily driver
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Hello all,
Well as the subject says, My D is now my daily driver, at least for a
few days.  Although I planed to keep her in the inside durring the
chicago winter, My other cars engine quit.
  
To make a long, long story short, The junk yard that I was getting an
engine from, misplaced the engine, and I now will have to get one
somewhere else.
I never thought I would say this, but It was eaiser to get a used
transmission for my DeLorean, then it is to find a 455 engine for a 72'
Buick Riviera.
Have fun everyone
Andrew
4194 


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From: DMC83in99(AT)aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 15:00:01 EST
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I think what Devin meant to type was www.carfax.com- I went to this site 
about a week before buying mine.
Scott
#16738
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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 11:39:35 -0800
From: "Mark Noeltner" <mnoeltne(AT)ezl.com>
In-Reply-To:  <19991204123444.58592.qmail(AT)hotmail.com>
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K&N does not make a filter that is an exact fit for the DeLorean. One
of our club members is working with a K&N Engineer to produce a custom
fit bracket that will allow one of their filters to work right. No
pricing or availability details yet. Keep an eye on the "Parts" section
of our club web site:
http://www.midstatedmc.com/
He has dyno tested the prototype kit and in the DeLorean it produced a
3HP gain. I agree that 26HP is very unrealistic for ANY car with just a
K&N. Max I ever heard of was 10HP and that was on a car that had a very
restrictive factory filter.
Mark N
VIN 6820
"christopher hawes" <cmhdevelopmen-(AT)hotmail.com> wrote: 
> I purchased a K&N 57i air induction filter kit for my Opel Manta and
I will 
> DEFINATELY be purchasing one for my DMC (When I buy one).
> 
> The K&N never has to be replaced!!!!
<snip>
> I never had the car tested to find the exact horse power increase.  I
think 
> 26 is a little unrealistic!!!!
> 
> Just my 2 pence worth!!!
> 
> Chris
> 

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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)att.net>
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 15:32:59 -0500
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Incorrect; 
John DeLorean can't sell his estate because he doesn't own it. The 434 acre
estate belongs to the federal courts and Merrill Lynch. The property is
being auctioned off to help pay the over $24 million that John owes to his
creditors. 
I believe he will have to satisfy that financial obligation before moving
into another multi million dollar project.
Happy Holiday's
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
----------
> From: IVe099(AT)aol.com
> 
> Rumors are currently circulating that DeLorean is selling his estate and 
> moving to a much smaller residence in order to have enough money to
finance 
> his latest car project.  It is confirmed that he is in the prototype
stages 
> and has 3 main designs for the new DeLorean.  All designs feature
gull-wing 
> doors.  This news can be exciting if it's true.  It'd be great to own a
brand 
> new DeLorean.  Can anyone confirm why he's selling his estate for sure?  
> 
> Tom
> Vin#5588

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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 15:15:37 -0500
From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4(AT)osu.edu>
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Dear List,
    I had a funny thing happen to me a few months ago with my car.
Well, it wasn't funny at the time, but it is now looking back.
    The day started with me deciding to take a risk and have a Jiffy
Lube place bleed my cooling system for me.  I tried doing it myself, but
the last owner of my car replaced my bleeder screw with a 1/4 inch bolt
wrapped with teflon tape and I wasn't sure if I was getting the system
completely free of air or not.  I figured that Jiffy Lube couldn't
possibly screw up if I stood there and watched them to make sure they
did everything right.  They did an excellent job with the bleeding, and
even got out an air bubble that must have been trapped deep in the
system.  They put things back together and I went home.  I had the
perfect opportunity to test their work later on that day as I had to
make a 100 mile trip from Cincinnati to Columbus, Ohio.  That was a
mistake!  The car made the whole highway part of the trip without any
problems but when I got into Columbus, it started heating up and making
a weird "whirring" noise.  I was in rush hour traffic and not far from
my destination, so I figured I'd tough it out.  Well, the car ended up
dying right at the busiest intersection in the entire town.  I got out,
did a quick inspection and discovered a trickle of antifreeze running
down the street behind my car, so I popped the bonnet and explored.  I
found that when the Jiffy Lube geniouses had put one of the cooling
hoses back on, they put it too close to the air conditioner belt.  As
the car heated up, the hose expanded and came into contact with this
belt, thus wearing a neat hole just deep enough for the cooling system
to lose all pressure.
    I had a police man who was passing by at the time call a tow truck.
I am a AAA member, but the police man said I had to be satisfied with
the first flat bed that came by considering the circumstances.  I
agreed, and about an hour later the ugliest, most disgusting tow truck
that I've ever seen pulled up to answer my call.  To make a long story
shorter the truck got me to my destination successfully, and I was able
to patch up the system to limp it home.
    About 4 months later we got our new Columbus phone books, and I'm
busy flipping through it trying to find a tow truck to get a misplaced
vehicle moved from blocking in my car.  I turn to the towing section and
was drawn to some ads featuring various sports cars.  Right in the
middle of all of these is an ad for the towing company that helped me
that fateful day 4 months ago.  In their new ad they feature a drawing
of a DeLorean (no doubt mine) on the back of a tow truck with the words
"Towing for Jesus" right below it.  Apparently my car made quite an
impression on this small firm!!  LOL
    I'm back in Cincinnati for a week or two, but next time I'm in
Columbus, I'll be sure to scan that ad and post it to the vault.
        Josh Haldeman
        VIN 5102
        Check out my new improved website interface.  (IT'S COOL!!)
        http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/7139

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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 13:14:35 -0800
From: Darryl Tinnerstet <darryl(AT)techline.com>
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Devin Mitchell asked:
"Has anyone thought of or done a modification to have the gullwing doors
automatically?"
You must be a new reader.  As noted here several times, I have been doing
that for well over 10 years and have provided the how-to instructions to
many others who have done this interesting conversion.  I will email the
instructions to you in a couple of days, after I get a chance to scan in
some new photos.
-- 
Darryl Tinnerstet
Specialty Automotive
McCleary, WA 

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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 17:49:53 -0500
From: "Aldo Buono" <dmc1440(AT)earthlink.net>
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I extend a cordial invitation to the De Lorean Mailing List to join the 
members of De Lorean Midatlantic at our annual holiday social to be held in
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, on Saturday, December 11, 1999, from 6 to 9 pm.
The social is free to all, and is hosted by one our members at his
restaurant in the Art Musuem area of Philadelphia.
For reservations, email our Activities Director, Gary Gore, at:
DeLorean31(AT)aol.com
A Happy and Safe Holiday Season to All of You.
--
Aldo Buono, President, De Lorean Midatlantic, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,
dmc1440(AT)earthlink.net/ VIN 1440 since 1984
Visit: http://clubs.hemmings.com/deloreanmidatlantic/
For all the exciting details of Eastern Regional Run 10, June 15-18, 2000,
Visit: http://deloreancarshow.com
 

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From: "Mitchell, Devin" <devin.mitchell(AT)eds.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 16:59:51 -0600
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Hello all:
      1. Looks like the DML might have an anti-spam feature enabled, so
replace the - in my email 	address with an l.
(devin_mitchell(AT)yahoo.com).
	2. It also looks like carmax may have changed their web site from
the last time I checked.  	You can run your VIN from
http://www.carfax.com/images/uucp6a.htm.  Once again the "-" may 	have
been appended to the end.  if this is the case, the last 3 characters are
"htm".
	3.  Carmax seems to ask a question every now and then to make sure
nobody has "got ahold"	of my account name.  I just checked and it prompted
me for the last 4 digits of my 	credit 	card I used to pay for the service
with.  If you try to check your VIN, and it's asking you 	a similar
question, just try back again in a little while.  I will check every so
often to 	make sure the nag questions are answered.
	4. For those who have asked me to run their VIN:  I will as soon as
I have a web browser 	again.  In an effort to clean some space off my HDD
I accidentally deleted some of Internet 	Explorer 5 and now it won't
run (whoops).  I'm downloading Netscape right now....
Enjoy!
Devin
-----Original Message-----
From: DMC83in99(AT)aol.com [mailto:DMC83in99(AT)aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 3:00 PM
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I think what Devin meant to type was www.carfax.com- I went to this site 
about a week before buying mine.
Scott
#16738
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From: "Scott Mueller" <scottmueller(AT)zebra.net>
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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 17:12:00 -0600
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----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4(AT)osu.edu>
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 2:15 PM
Subject: [DML] Another Funny Story
> Dear List,
> did a quick inspection and discovered a trickle of antifreeze running
> down the street behind my car, so I popped the bonnet and explored.  I
> found that when the Jiffy Lube geniouses had put one of the cooling
> hoses back on, they put it too close to the air conditioner belt.  As
> the car heated up, the hose expanded and came into contact with this
> belt, thus wearing a neat hole just deep enough for the cooling system
> to lose all pressure.
I just replaced the coolant system hoses this past spring.  Last weekend I
noticed the same problem you have, the long hose that crosses over the belt
had a nice groove worn in it.  I was wondering how that happened since there
was clearance between the hose and belt.  BTW, the belt is tensioned
properly.  I wasn't to happy when I discovered this problem.  It seems that
the metal "loop" that surrounds the hose at the top must have been an after
thought in the design.  I still have the original hoses that came with the
car, I need to get them out and look to see if the construction is the same
as the replacement set I purchased last spring.  A good quality coolant hose
should have reinforcement cords in them to prevent expansion at operating
temperatures.
I am curious if other list members have had this sort of problem, or is it
that I posses the same genius genes as the Jiffy Lube staff.
Scott
2981



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From: "mquinto" <mquinto(AT)email.msn.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 16:11:19 -0800
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Hi list,
I posted a message about VPA corp. that makes the shaved door handle kits b=
efore.
I also have this kit installed on my DeLorean, and it works great. The look=
s you get popping up your doors while walking to your vehicle in a parking =
lot. I very rarely use my door handle.
The kit has two 15lb.door solenoids that are mounted on each door, not actu=
ators. =
Theres a company called Autoloc that sells a similar kit that looks alot ni=
cer but is more pricey. But with Autoloc's solenoids you have a choice of 1=
5lbs. or 35lbs. of pull. If I had to buy the kit again I would look into th=
e 35lb. solenoids. The 15lbs is barely enough to open the doors with modifa=
cation.
And also the 35 is twice the size of the 15 and I assume it will weigh more=
, so I don't know if it will mess with the balance on the doors.
So do some research on both of these companies products. And also if you bu=
y the kit you don't have to get the ones with the door poppers, there not n=
eeded.
And you can buy the solenoids and remote modules seperately.
Later
Mike
Vin#1113 =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi list,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I posted a message about VPA corp. that ma=
kes the =
shaved door handle kits before.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I also have this kit installed on my DeLor=
ean, and =
it works great. The looks you get popping up your doors while walking to yo=
ur =
vehicle in a parking lot. I very rarely use my door handle.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The kit has&nbsp;two 15lb.door solenoids t=
hat are =
mounted on each&nbsp;door, not actuators.</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Theres a&nbsp;company called Autoloc that =
sells a =
similar kit that looks alot nicer but is more pricey. But with Autoloc's =
solenoids you have a choice of 15lbs. or 35lbs. of pull. If I had to buy th=
e kit =
again&nbsp;I would&nbsp;look into&nbsp;the 35lb. solenoids. The 15lbs is ba=
rely =
enough to open the doors with modifacation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And also the 35 is twice the size of the 1=
5 and I =
assume it will weigh more, so I don't&nbsp;know if it will&nbsp;mess with t=
he =
balance on the doors.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So do some research on both of these compa=
nies =
products. And also if you buy the kit you don't have to get the ones with t=
he =
door poppers, there not needed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And you can buy the solenoids&nbsp;and rem=
ote =
modules seperately.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Later</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Vin#1113</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 19:38:10 -0500
From: "Jesse D. Sightler" <jsight(AT)mindspring.com>
References: <10297-38485FE2-10058(AT)storefull-142.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
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May we safely assume that you are clicking on the link for "Delroean
Memorabilia", and then clicking on the option to view items on EBay?
AFAIK, this is the only way you would get to a page on Ebay from the DMC
site.  :)  And, as they are currently not selling any items on EBay, the
page would in fact be blanks.
-----
Jess
http://www.biddin.com/delorean/
Danny Smith wrote:
> 
> Joe,
> Your link gets me into the store, then when I click where it says "view
> items on Ebay" it still only takes me to a place that offers a look at
> bidders e-mail addresses and bidding history if I type in my Ebay
> password and e-mail address. I give up (guess I'm not meant to own any
> of those items).
> Dan  -  7065
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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 12:26:18 +1100
From: "R. Haslewood" <delorean(AT)zip.com.au>
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I don't know if anyone's mentioned this, but "The Best of Motor Trend"
magazine has two small write-ups of the DeLorean, as well as one of the
Bricklin. Firstly, the DeLorean and Bricklin feature in the "Hits, Misses,
and Never-weres" article. They were labled "Misses" :-( 
Secondly, the DeLorean prototype is pictured in a special "Motor Trend
Timeline" under the year 1977. Next to the pic there's a small blurb and an
anonymous quote.
Lastly, there's a kick-arse photo of Don Johnson's beloved Ferrari Daytona
Spider from Miami Vice, which marks the beginning of the 80's section of the
timeline. It's not DeLorean-related, but it's a damn fine car nonetheless :-)
Rick Haslewood
Sydney, Australia
www.zip.com.au/~delorean/
delorean(AT)zip.com.au
UIN - 4316376
VIN - 10599

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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 19:21:32 -0800
From: "kevin & ann miller" <kamiller(AT)gci.net>
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 Well since its winter in Alaska and my D is in the garage, its time to
do some research on it. I was wondering if there is anyone out there
that has any imfomation on my vin. I trying to find out the dealer who
sold it and its address, I tried to contact the orignal owner but he
moved out of state and also checked with DMC Houston and nothing
     1981 with vin scedt26tobd004556
     I would be very thankful for any help, 
  Anybody from Alaska on the list? let me know

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Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 21:23:52 -0700 (MST)
From: raddad(AT)cmn.net
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I, too, experienced that dreaded belt vs hose situation early this past
summer.  I had not gone to Jiffy Lube.  What I had done, however, was to
lean on the hose while reaching to the rear of the engine compartment.
That pushed the hose into the belt.   In addition to making sure the belt
is as far from the hose as I could possibly make it, I wrapped the hose
with an extra piece  and tie wrapped it for extra protection.
Dick Ryan


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From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus(AT)austin.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 01:19:22 -0600
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You know, I think the best use for this CARFAX service would be to complete
the DMC production chronology.  I'm not suggesting that someone should plug
in ALL of the possible VINs, just the unknown ones that appear to be in
gaps.  If the car has ever been registered, it should show up in the
database and can be added to the chronology.
There's over 1000 people on the list, right?  Everybody gets 10 VINs to look
up.  :-)
Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DMC83in99(AT)aol.com [mailto:DMC83in99(AT)aol.com]
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 2:00 PM
> To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: Want your VIN rerport run free 2?
>
>
> I think what Devin meant to type was www.carfax.com- I went to this site
> about a week before buying mine.
>
>
> Scott
> #16738
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From: "Gus Schlachter" <gus(AT)austin.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 01:51:41 -0600
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My recent rejection by "Kwik-Car" for a simple oil change irritated me
sufficiently to write an e-mail to the corporate office through their web
site.  Since each location is independently owned, the letter was forwarded
to the local owner who wrote me directly.
He said that the tech I spoke with was wrong, and that he would be happy to
service my Delorean if I would supply the filter.  So I returned, armed with
a filter number and some cross-references, but they stocked none of them.
They agreed to fetch one of my interchanged filters so I returned the next
day.  Aside from having to supply them with the 5/16" square socket, they
did a fine job and were very polite and professional.
The irony is that when we were done, the manager pulled out the filter
application book and found a listing under "Delorean" for a filter that they
stock.  They even swapped to this filter for nothing!
I must add that I switched to 10w30 synthetic Mobil 1, and I swear the motor
runs quieter and turns over easier, although I could also swear that I get
2-3 HP after I wash it.  :-)

Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
VIN# 4695

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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 00:30:43 -0800
From: Lee <support(AT)radiance.com>
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At 10:14 AM 12/4/99 EST, you wrote:
>I hate to beat anything to death - however, changing the height does have a 
>negative effect on your bumper height to OTHER vehicles if  you have an 
>accident.  Also, aiming of headlights and without attention to camber and 
>caster negative handling effects.
>
reply:
I don't think you have remotely approached beating a dead horse, not by a long shot.
Most average motorist and a good many DeLorean drivers don't begin to appreciate just how special and precise the DMC-12 suspension is. All that was ever done to meet the US bumper height requirements was the installation of a longer spring and front end re alignment. This as we all know ruined the look and caused a good deal of control problems at speeds of 70mph+.
The only requirement to putting the D back in to it's design configuration is installing the correct springs with the correct medullas rating and correct front end alignment. Once this is completed the DMC-12 is a marvel to drive and behaves as designed way past the 100mph mark as it should. Handling is at least 50% of what a "Sports Coupe" is all about. From an elegant design point of view, setting up a DMC-12 to low, or wit it's nose sticking up, or with the same size wheels is not only ugly but a road hazard as well. There is literally nothing any one can cut, bolt on weld on, or substitute on the DMC-12 suspension that will improve it. It is as good as it is ever going to get.
PJ Grady has the correct length front springs (and I suspect all the other DeLorean parts sources have them as well) which is all most DMC-12's need. If you have a cut and switch on your hands the only GOOD solution is to replace all the springs with the correct one's.
Any one who believes that mounting cheap tires, cut springs, same size hubs, cross-index suspension parts and Home Depot trailing arm bolts and hardware store chamber shims is kidding them selves. I suggest that if you are one of these owners when you lose control and in that last moment before you slide off the road, bridge or cliff- in to that flaming gasoline truck , just remember at one time your DMC-12 had one of the best designed suspension systems in the world of cars...and you changed it.
Lee 

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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 07:12:24 -0500
From: David Sontos <dsontos(AT)sybercom.net>
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Everything you wanted to know about painting facias is at
http://www.sybercom.net/dsontos/painting.html
Dave Sontos
VIN 02573
DMC83in99(AT)aol.com wrote:
> Does anyone know the paint codes for the front and rear ?  Mine is going in
> the shop on Monday, and I'd like to make it as easy on the guy as I can.
> Someone told me it's in the workshop manual, but I'm not sure where.  Any
> help is appreciated!!
>
> Scott
> #16738
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Everything you wanted to know about painting facias is at <A HREF="http://www.sybercom.net/dsontos/painting.html">http://www.sybercom.net/dsontos/painting.html</A>
<p>Dave Sontos
<br>VIN 02573
<p>DMC83in99(AT)aol.com wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Does anyone know the paint codes for the front and
rear ?&nbsp; Mine is going in
<br>the shop on Monday, and I'd like to make it as easy on the guy as I
can.
<br>Someone told me it's in the workshop manual, but I'm not sure where.&nbsp;
Any
<br>help is appreciated!!
<p>Scott
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From: OutaTimeJT(AT)aol.com
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 08:34:13 EST
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.... is there anyone who is an expert in DMC's and would be interested
in having their own DMC column on a web site. For further details
please email BTTFeGroup(AT)hotmail.com Thanks all!
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From: JCox4001(AT)aol.com
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 11:05:34 EST
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Dear DML'ers,
A public "Thank You" goes out to Devin Mitchell for running the VIN check for 
me.  I too, had trouble getting in, but he promptly did it for me.  It's a 
pleasure when someone takes time out to help a fellow D owner.  If I can ever 
do the same!!!
Jeff Cox
JCox4001(AT)aol.com
VIN 5705
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From: "yugoman" <mdrig(AT)email.msn.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 08:38:03 -0500
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Door struts on Bidster.com auction.
http://www.bidster.com/auction/index.cgi
 


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