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----------------------------------------------------------------- 5215. DeLorean31(AT)aol.com Re: Another Funny Story 5216. Mike Substelny Torsion bar Epiphany 5217. Gavin Haslett Re: Thus Spake David E 5218. Richard Cutter Re: JZD Background info... 5219. Murray Fisher Re: Automatic opening gullwing doors 5220. Chris Parnham Re: Thus Spake David E 5221. Nick Ryan Re: Running VIN numbers 5222. Erik Geerdink Re: antifreeze leak 5223. Kevin Rawlings Re: JZD Background info... 5224. UNCLEUMP(AT)aol.com Another funny story 5225. Danrc30 Now I'm mad... 5226. James Espey DMC (Houston) Online Store (updated) 5227. WINGD2(AT)aol.com Re: Air filter on the DMC-12 5228. Jonathan Heslop discount battery disconnects 5229. DeLorean31(AT)aol.com Renting Your DeLorean 5230. Lee Keys-Calendars n-kits 5231. Jonathan Heslop Re: Running VIN numbers 5232. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: antifreeze leak 5233. saintern no start 5234. Chris Parnham Re: Torsion bar Epiphany 5235. Chris Parnham Re: Another funny story 5236. mquinto Re: Opening Doors 5237. Comet42483(AT)aol.com Delorean Book 5238. Brian J McCool Thus Spake David E Davis 5239. Delorean17(AT)aol.com Testing starter Solenoid 5240. Delorean17(AT)aol.com touching up frame 5241. CBL302(AT)aol.com Carfax reports 5242. Lee Bleed Kit Info 5243. Chris Parnham Re: JZD Background info... 5244. Ian Foster New DeLorean Toy? 5245. Nick Ryan Re: Running VIN numbers 5246. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: no start 5247. Murray Fisher RE remote door opening, apology 5248. Peter Lucas Re: Automatic opening gullwing doors 5249. Stian Birkeland PJ Grady Backlot DeLorean Photos 5250. Lee Re: Running VIN numbers 5251. Stian Birkeland Orange lights in the front. Please help! 5252. eGroups.com Poll Results Voting Results: Which year do YOU own 5253. Chris Parnham Re: no start -----------------------------------------------------------------
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From: DeLorean31(AT)aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 03:28:26 EST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Another Funny Story MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
If this is the picture of a DeLorean on a flatbed I have seen them too. In fact at the police station I work at we have a large poster of a DeLorean on a flatbed tow truck. The DeLorean is red in color and the ad refers to losing your car if you are caught with drugs. Its a D.A.R.E. poster and we have many of them. I believe they are distributed to many police stations throught the country. I will try to take a picture of it and scan it.
Gary
In a message dated 12/5/99 7:31:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, LovDMC12(AT)aol.com writes:
<< Josh,
I hate to burst your bubble, but the tow truck with the DeLorean on the back is a stock photo used in ads. My local Yellow Pages, Orangeburg, SC, has had this ad, minus the "Towing for Jesus" part, for several years. It has been used by this particular local tow company for quite sometime. In fact, I submitted a copy of it to "DeLorean World" over a year ago, and they printed it. I'm curious as to how many other Yellow Pages have this same ad used by a local tow service.
Brian VIN 1597 >>
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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 09:21:26 -0500 From: Mike Substelny <msubstel(AT)lorainccc.edu> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Torsion bar Epiphany MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In the years I've been reading the DML I have been alarmed by the number of times I have seen torsion bar adjustments mentioned, almost always to increase the lifting force on the doors. This seemed like a bad idea to me.
I had long assumed that the torsion bars MUST NOT need frequent 'tightening' adjustments. If a torsion bar wore out so quickly that someone needed to tighten it every year, within ten years it would have so many extra twists that it would be destroyed. So I assumed that the accounts reflected a large population of owners who adjusted their torsion bars once, perhaps owners who were just too lazy or cheap to replace their door struts regularly.
Until yesterday.
Yesterday I was thinking about my own prematurely sagging doors when I suddenly remembered two things I have learned since subscribing to the DML. The first was a conversation about remote door openers. I believe it was DMC Joe who mentioned that the added weight of the solenoids will require a torsion bar adjustment. The second was a conversation with Jerry Rine at Kapac, who told me that a large number of DeLoreans (mine included) left the factory without door guides. Guides may have been added later by dealers, QACs, owners, or whoever.
My theory: a lot of DeLoreans, including mine, never had their torsion bars adjusted for the added weight of the door guides. Assuming I've finally solved the nagging mystery of those adjustment stories that have bothered me all these years, I slept better last night. ;-)
- Mike Substelny VIN 1280
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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 08:41:47 -0600 From: Gavin Haslett <thumper_svx(AT)yahoo.com> References: <199912052036.PAA13821(AT)pegasus.ultra.net> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Thus Spake David E MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
It's comments like this that made me stop buying Automobile Magazine about 6 months ago. While everyone's entitled to an opinion, AM seems to have it's head too far up the asses of the "big three" to notice anything else going on. They give otherwise great import cars bad reviews because somebody who's 6'8" doesn't fit well in the front seat!!!! How many of us are that height? Of course they won't fit in a Japanese car!!!!
Personally I've often found their comments insulting... and they don't like John Delorean. Recently they slammed the GTO as being a piece of crap too... never mind that it was "the" muscle car for an entire generation.
-- Gavin Haslett thumper_svx(AT)yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/thumper_svx "Ahhhh... Mountain Dew... nectar of the geeks!"
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From: "Richard Cutter" <dmc_power(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 15:06:34 GMT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: JZD Background info... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Greetings. Take a trip to the library ang check out the book "Delorean" by JZD and Ted Schwarz isbn - 0-310-37940-7 This will be as close to talking with him as possible plus you will learn more about our government than you will wish too.
Rich Cutter 5467-NS
>From: VIPERTV(AT)aol.com >Reply-To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com >To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com >Subject: [DML] JZD Background info... >Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 20:29:07 EST > >Dear List: > > In Journalism class, we have to choose a person, and find information >about that person's background. What they did that was famous, how they >did >it, and various other things. I chose to do John Z. DeLorean. I was >curious >if anyone can point me out to a website, or send me an email, about JZD and >his accomplishments. I need to have 5 paragraphs about JZD, and make some >interviewing questions. (Please note that I do not have to ask the man >himself, but just make up questions and turn them into the teacher.) Any >help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time. > >**Happy Holidays!** >Steven Lawrence >~vipertv(AT)aol.com > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: >www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: >moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews >http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > >
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From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf(AT)innw.net> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 07:41:58 -0800 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Automatic opening gullwing doors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi Chris,
I have a module installed in my D that has all but the door opening
unit. It looks like you do not yet own a De Lorean and wonder what you
might know about its "guts". I am a retired person who was involved in
electronics all my life and am also a gadget nut.....I have had my D for
abouat 3 years now and purchased it from the original owner, with 3K miles
on it. I know of no units for sale that will address the door opening
question....the one you mentioned may be the one I have as it is commercial,
but it is a universal unit for ALL cars and I am sure no one would have any
interest in putting one out with the door opening features you suggest.
The sales would be too limited. However Darryl Tinnerset in Olympia has
complete information on a "do it yourself" way to do this. I got this from
him a couple years ago but it is just too much tedious work for ME to tackle
at this stage. It requires opening the doors up and some delicate work both
in adding the solenoid and the wiring. It requires a hefty solenoid
preferably a motor driven geared type, as it has to pull a bunch of rods and
cables to unlatch the door mechanically. It needs a special built plate to
mount the solenoid in the correct spot too. It would really be a neat
installation and as Darryl says...it is fun to walk up to the D and hit the
button and without breaking your stride, walk right into the car! Ho Ho.
It is ALMOST as much fun with the unit I have which starts the car remotely,
as well as lock/unlock the doors, turn on headlights, full alarm system and
a bunch of other stuff. BTW, this entailed the installation of two more
relays as the pulses of the units in the D were not of the correct length
and I had to do some extra stuff to make it work in our cars.
It is sure nice to start the car while I am in a restaurant and have it
nice and warm when I go out to it. Ditto in the hot summer with the air
conditioning. Not to mention the comments and looks it gets when someone
sees/hears it start up with no one in it! Makes my day!! Ho Ho.
Best regards
Murray Fisher
Vin: 05962 Lic: DMC-XII
Washington State
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From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham(AT)cwcom.net> References: <199912052036.PAA13821(AT)pegasus.ultra.net> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 08:59:17 -0000 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Thus Spake David E MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
My typing finger quivvers in outrage! Who is this David E. Who slags off our beloved De Loreans?
..I have found 2 "hate figures" in 2 weeks.. not bad eh?.
.I think I will have to give up this news group, my blood presure doth boil up!
Chris Parnham DOC (uk).
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> Thus Spake David E.: > The (DeLorean) car itself was a discarded Guigiaro protoype that sounded and > behaved like a late-model Chevroloet Corvair. Obsolete before they ever > turned a wheel, the cars were junk, the organization was a joke, and > somebody got way with most of the inattentive British government's > investment... Automobile Magazine, January 2000, p.44. The OUTRAGE!!! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > eGroups.com Home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/ > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > >
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Date: 06 Dec 99 11:39:27 +0000 From: Nick Ryan <nick(AT)imagenow.ie> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Running VIN numbers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All
I am trying to run the check on the carfax thing and I can get in okay but = it says the Vin is Invalid. It says you need a 17 character long VIN. I am = in Ireland and on my VRC (vehicle registration certificate) it has only 16 = characters. What am I missing? My Vin is SCEDT269DD016045. My car is not = near me so I can't get exactly what it says on the VIN plates.
Regards
Nick
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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 08:34:38 -0800 From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502(AT)excite.com> In-Reply-To: <19991206014435.PXTB959(AT)delorean> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: antifreeze leak MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Quick question on the pressure test. Is it ok to drive the Delorean to a place to get it checked out with a leak in the hose or bad water pump? I don't want black smoke coming from any area of my car. thanks to all who have responded to my post.
Erik Geerdink 4512
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From: "Kevin Rawlings" <blast59(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 13:44:26 EST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: JZD Background info... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Well, you could try my webpage, (http://www.geocites.com/MotorCity/Factory/9755/) and from there use the DeLorean Webring to get to about 65 other good sites. Another source of information would be DeLorean.org (if they ever get their site up and running again)
DRIVE STAINLESS Kevin Rawlings, VIN:(coming soon)
>Dear List: > > In Journalism class, we have to choose a person, and find information >about that person's background. What they did that was famous, how they >did >it, and various other things. I chose to do John Z. DeLorean. I was >curious >if anyone can point me out to a website, or send me an email, about JZD and >his accomplishments. I need to have 5 paragraphs about JZD, and make some >interviewing questions. (Please note that I do not have to ask the man >himself, but just make up questions and turn them into the teacher.) Any >help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time. > >**Happy Holidays!** >Steven Lawrence >~vipertv(AT)aol.com
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From: UNCLEUMP(AT)aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 14:04:50 EST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Another funny story MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
While in England, early in November, I was able to attend their big car show (the NEC). I went to each & every dealer selling auto memorabilia (there were several!) and asked for DeLorean related material. Mostly, I received blank stares after being asked to repeat myself. One guy laughed at me. Another said "...why isn't that just an Irish tin box"?
Yet, while my D was at the shop, a customer asked me if it "...cost $100k or $200k".
It's a shame that after 18 years, the general public really has no clue what the DeLorean is!! Then again, that's one of the reasons why I love the D so much!
mATT #6770
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From: "Danrc30" <Danrc30(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:12:00 -0500 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Now I'm mad... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF3FFC.3ED024C0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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I am really mad here. I just read an article in Automobile magazine. The au= thor mentioned the DeLorean on page 44 of January's issue.The author, David= E. Davis Jr., referred to the DeLorean as "a discarded Giugiaro prototype-= --skinned in stainless steel, powered by a Renault V-6---that sounded and b= ehaved exactly like a late-model Chevrolet Corvair. Obsolete before they ev= er turned a wheel, the cars were junk, the organization was a joke, and som= ebody got away with most of the British government's investment." He said s= ome other insulting things about JZD himself as well.
The article is about a new car company being started by Jose Ignacio Lopez = de Arriotua---infamous purchasing czar at GM. He's talking about former att= empts which were flops. He also talks about Tucker and Kaiser in a negative= light as well.
I think this author has a lot of nerve to say things like this. He obviosly= has never driven or for that matter, probably never even seen a DeLorean h= imself. I assume he hasn't read Stainless Steel Illusion either. Something = needs to be done about this.
You can visit AUTOMOBILEMAG.COM if you want to send a complaint to the maga= zine.
---Dan
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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:07:28 -0500 From: James Espey <james(AT)usadmc.com> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] DMC (Houston) Online Store (updated) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
There was a problem with our store (http://www.usadmc.com/dmcstore/ViewDir.asp?) over the weekend that if you placed an order, but didn't include any comments or special instructions (sizes, colors etc) an error was generated and your order was discarded. This has now been fixed.
I apologize for any inconvenience.
James Espey DeLorean Motor Company Houston, Texas
281/568-9573 800/USA-DMC1 http://www.usadmc.com
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From: WINGD2(AT)aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 02:54:31 EST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Air filter on the DMC-12 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 12/5/99 8:55:50 PM Central Standard Time, DMCJOE(AT)att.net writes:
<< Here is something to think about. The horsepower difference between running the car with an OEM filter and no filter at all is less than 2 hp. So unless the K&N filter does some kind of magic trick with the air as it passes through the filter I would have serious doubts about any substantial increase in horsepower. >>
Joe,
When we did the dyno runs a few weeks ago in Chicago, one run with my car
was done with the only change being the installation of a "prototype" K&N
filter unit into my stock Delorean air box. The dyno chart showed a 3 HP
increase at the rear wheels. I agree it's not a real big increase, but when
you figure we're not starting with a whole lot of HP to begin with, I was
happy with the results.
Marty
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From: "Jonathan Heslop" <gatewayaag(AT)mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:38:39 -0600 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] discount battery disconnects MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi all........
A while back I wrote that I had a few side post disconnect switches left. Well those went real fast and I'm going to place another order for them.
These are the "knob" type. The one end uses a bolt to screw into the battery terminal; the negative cable screws into the other end. In the middle there is a large knob. A half turn of the knob shuts the power off, tighening it back up closes the circuit again. No sparks, no lights flickering.
I had originally seen these for $15 a piece and needed a a bunch for all my cars. I didn't want to pay that much, and needed the quantity discount. I got together about 15 people on the Cadillac Allante board and ordered 25 switches. Everyone got the discount.
Right now the ones in Hemmings are $16.95+$3 to ship, page 9009. Mine will be MUCH lower. Prices will be:
For 1 switch -- $11.00 via First Class Mail For 1 switch -- $13.00 via Priority Mail For 2 switches -- $21.00 via Priority Mail For 3 switches -- $30.00 via Priority Mail
If you need more, I'll weigh them and give you a quote. Switch cost, their shipping, their tax, your shipping (postage and padded envelope), and an extra needed washer are all factored in.
If you want to get in on this deal, email me at gatewayaag(AT)mindspring.com That's "gatewayaag" at "mindspring.com" for you guys that get the "-" on the net. Or click here http://www.mindspring.com/~gatewayaag and look for a mailto hyperlink.
I'm going to put this up on the Allante board as I did before and see what kind of responses we get there. I'll make the order this coming Friday, so let me know ASAP.
Thanks,
--Jonathan Heslop #000697
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From: DeLorean31(AT)aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 17:02:39 EST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Renting Your DeLorean MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I was recently contacted about the possibility of renting a DeLorean in my area from one of our club members for a corporate event. Did anyone ever have a contract actually drawn up for such an event in which they rented their DeLorean out? I remember reading in past issues and also in DeLorean World about it and the mention of a contract. Has anyone a typed copy they could send me for review? Thanks in advance
Gary Gore Activities Director DeLorean Mid Atlantic
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Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 21:22:23 -0800 From: Lee <support(AT)radiance.com> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Keys-Calendars n-kits MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Yep Christmas is just around the corner and many list owners have
sent private e-mail asking about DMC keys, the calenders and Limited edition
model kits.
We shipped our December key orders to both PJ Grady and Don Steiger, the
keys should be available by Dec 8th at the latest.
For news and availability of the DML member DMC Calendars and Limited
edition Kits please drop by the DMC Bulletin board for news and pictures on or
after Dec 8th-.
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Lee
<bold>CAUTION</bold> <bold>: </bold> Any individual or group discharging a nuclear device or weapon
inside Los Angeles city limits may be fined $500 - and/or serve 30 days in county jail.
It's the <bold>LAW</bold>!
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From: "Jonathan Heslop" <gatewayaag(AT)mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 16:48:14 -0600 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Running VIN numbers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Nick
My VIN has a "T" in between the 26 and check digit (on my case 9 as well). So try SCEDT26T9DD016045. I ran it through my VIN calculcator and the check digit computed correctly at "9".
Just a note to others running random VINs (such as the twin turbo), the 9th digit is a check digit. It will be between 0-9 or X. If CarFax comes back and says INVALID VIN, something is wrong with it (possibly the check digit). If it comes back and says NO INFO FOR VIN, then you have a mathmatically correct VIN, but there's just no record of it.
My VIN calculator is just a small Excel file. If anyone knows how to put it into the vault or could place it on an FTP site for me, just email and I'll send it to you.
Good Luck,
--Jonathan Heslop #000697
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I am trying to run the check on the carfax thing and I can get in okay but it says the Vin is Invalid. It says you need a 17 character long VIN. I am in Ireland and on my VRC (vehicle registration certificate) it has only 16 characters. What am I missing? My Vin is SCEDT269DD016045. My car is not near me so I can't get exactly what it says on the VIN plates.
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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 17:55:49 -0500 From: Ann & Ed Thompson <RappaRivaRat(AT)erols.com> References: <82goiu$odpr(AT)eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: antifreeze leak MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Quick question on the pressure test. Is it ok to drive the Delorean to > a place to get it checked out with a leak in the hose or bad water > pump? > Erik Geerdink
1. How bad is the leak? Is it spraying or just dripping? 2. Does it leak if the engine is not running? If not, it's probably the water pump for sure. 3. How far would you have to drive? 4. How warm/cold is it where you are? 5. Can you arrange to have someone follow you in case it gets much worse and you have to stop? 6. Do you have a rollback readily available in your area?
If the leak isn't spraying and it doesn't leak when the engine is not running and you don't have far to drive and it's not hot where you are, go for it! I would suggest going about midday during the week when traffic is at at minimum and you could readily get a rollback to respond before rush hour traffic if necessary. BTW, it could be just a loose hose clamp. A screwdriver will fix that in no time.
Regards, Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 17:24:49 -0500 From: saintern <saintern(AT)peri.com> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] no start MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
finally had my first problem with my car.....and it's not on the road yet!....Last friday I go out to the car , turn the key and nothing. No clicking ...nothing....I start to get nervous, but it ends up being the battery...after a quick charge it was starting up with no problems....so here's the question....how could a battery go dead over night? It was cold but i wouldn't think it could go dead so quick. -Donald Kazmark vin 3541
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From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham(AT)cwcom.net> References: <384BC666.7C217F00(AT)lorainccc.edu> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 22:44:16 -0000 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Torsion bar Epiphany MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
One of our UK members has put forward the theory that if the cars are only very infrequently used, then the torsion bars loose some of there original power. Despite having re-gassed struts fitted, this is certainly the case with my DUSTY, I have so far put off the actual re-adjusting, but I know a man who can do it OK. I also know a man who slackened off the wrong bolts only 2 weeks ago and is now in need of a new door! Be warned.
CP DOC uk
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> In the years I've been reading the DML I have been alarmed by the number > of times I have seen torsion bar adjustments mentioned, almost always to > increase the lifting force on the doors. This seemed like a bad idea to > me. > > I had long assumed that the torsion bars MUST NOT need frequent > 'tightening' adjustments. If a torsion bar wore out so quickly that > someone needed to tighten it every year, within ten years it would have > so many extra twists that it would be destroyed. So I assumed that the > accounts reflected a large population of owners who adjusted their > torsion bars once, perhaps owners who were just too lazy or cheap to > replace their door struts regularly. > > Until yesterday. > > Yesterday I was thinking about my own prematurely sagging doors when I > suddenly remembered two things I have learned since subscribing to the > DML. The first was a conversation about remote door openers. I believe > it was DMC Joe who mentioned that the added weight of the solenoids will > require a torsion bar adjustment. The second was a conversation with > Jerry Rine at Kapac, who told me that a large number of DeLoreans (mine > included) left the factory without door guides. Guides may have been > added later by dealers, QACs, owners, or whoever. > > My theory: a lot of DeLoreans, including mine, never had their torsion > bars adjusted for the added weight of the door guides. Assuming I've > finally solved the nagging mystery of those adjustment stories that have > bothered me all these years, I slept better last night. ;-) > > - Mike Substelny > VIN 1280 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > >
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From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham(AT)cwcom.net> References: <0.8dc00ded.257d62d2(AT)aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 22:56:08 -0000 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Another funny story MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I had already been around all the s/hand book stalls on the Friday ( set up day) and bought about 5 De Lorean related books, including one sales brochure (£12) but I must agree they are so few and far between in the Uk that most people have no idea about them. Apart of course they all think they own a bit of it , because of the £90 odd million that we British tax payers put into the project. When I take my car to a local classic car show, its almost embarrassing the way the thing is mobbed, from start to finish, when more traditional British classic cars hardly get looked at.
CP DOC UK
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> While in England, early in November, I was able to attend their big car show > (the NEC). I went to each & every dealer selling auto memorabilia (there > were several!) and asked for DeLorean related material. Mostly, I received > blank stares after being asked to repeat myself. One guy laughed at me. > Another said "...why isn't that just an Irish tin box"? > > Yet, while my D was at the shop, a customer asked me if it "...cost $100k or > $200k". > > It's a shame that after 18 years, the general public really has no clue what > the DeLorean is!! Then again, that's one of the reasons why I love the D so > much! > > mATT > #6770 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > eGroups.com Home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/ > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > >
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From: "mquinto" <mquinto(AT)email.msn.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 16:09:18 -0800 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Opening Doors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01BF4004.3FBA8B20" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Hi List,
I'm going to have to agree with Murry. There is many universal kits out=
there, they were made for cars with shaved door handles. I installed mine =
last year but I never came across any kit made for the DeLorean. I even e-m=
ailed Darryl to see what kit he was using. But I think he made up his own k=
it. I ended up using VPA's kit ordered from Summit's catalog, suggested by =
another member.
And it is very hard to install if you choose to put it in yourself. You= get really deep into the door mechanisms and setting up the wiring for it = is a pain. But it is well worth the trouble. =
The solenoids are not gear driven there're magnetic, they're similar to the= DeLorean's door lock solenoids except; they only pull in a cable that you = attach to your main arm the rods are connected to .
Regards To All Mike Vin #1113
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Murry. There is many universal kits out there, they were made for cars with= =
shaved door handles. I installed mine last year but I never = came =
across any kit made for the DeLorean. I even e-mailed Darryl to see wh= at =
kit he was using. But I think he made up his own kit. I ended up using VPA'= s kit =
ordered from Summit's catalog, suggested by another member.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> And it is very hard to = install =
if you choose to put it in yourself. You get really deep into the door= =
mechanisms and setting up the wiring for it is a pain. But it is well = worth =
the trouble.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The solenoids are not gear driven there're= =
magnetic, they're similar to the DeLorean's door lock solenoids except; =
they only pull in a cable that you attach to your main arm t= he =
rods are connected to .</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards To All</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike Vin #1113</FONT></DIV>
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From: Comet42483(AT)aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 19:26:09 EST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Delorean Book MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
We recently recieved a black book with a black embossing of a Delorean on both the front and the back. Does any one know what this is, and possibly what it would be worth? Thank you Tjohnson #6974
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From: "Brian J McCool" <brian.mccool(AT)gte.net> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 18:33:56 -0600 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Thus Spake David E Davis MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01BF4018.74861400" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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For the record, the infamous David E.Davis is editor and publication direct= or of Automobile Magazine, he wrote for Car & Driver before that, he has been an automotive = journalist for =
almost 40 years. He actually started Automobile Magazine. In the July 1999 = issue he does a plug for his new book "Thus Spake David E." Hard to believe that someone = who says they are "obsessed with cars" has become so jaded and bitter over the years= that he has to insult specific marks, which in turn insults and degrades every person t= hat sacrificed there time and effort to make sure the average person could enjoy there labor of = love i.e. Deloreans, Tuckers, Kaiser-Frasiers or any of the many other interesting marques that = we love. Of course most people will like one make more than another, but when it comes down to= it, it doesn't matter what car you like, AS LONG AS YOU LIKE CARS. I think David E Davis f= orgot this =
somewhere along the way when his ego took over his writing pen. =
Near the end of his paragraph plugging his first book, he ends with "I real= ly hope you'll each by a dozen or so copies. I know I will". GUESS HOW MAN= Y COPIES I'M GOING TO BUY?!?!?
= Brian McCool
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director of Automobile</DIV> <DIV>Magazine, he wrote for Car & Driver before that, he has been an =
automotive journalist for </DIV> <DIV>almost 40 years. He actually started Automobile Magazine. In the July = 1999 =
issue he does</DIV> <DIV>a plug for his new book "Thus Spake David E." Hard to believe that som= eone =
who says</DIV> <DIV>they are "obsessed with cars" has become so jaded and bitter over the = years =
that he has</DIV> <DIV>to insult specific marks, which in turn insults and degrades every per= son =
that sacrificed there</DIV> <DIV>time and effort to make sure the average person could enjoy there labo= r of =
love i.e. Deloreans,</DIV> <DIV>Tuckers, Kaiser-Frasiers or any of the many other interesting marques = that =
we love. Of course</DIV> <DIV>most people will like one make more than another, but when it comes do= wn to =
it, it doesn't</DIV> <DIV>matter what car you like, AS LONG AS YOU LIKE CARS. I think David E Da= vis =
forgot this </DIV> <DIV>somewhere along the way when his ego took over his writing pen. </DIV> <DIV>Near the end of his paragraph plugging his first book, he ends with "I= =
really hope you'll each by a dozen or so copies. I know I will". GUES= S HOW =
MANY COPIES I'M GOING TO BUY?!?!?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT =
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From: Delorean17(AT)aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:18:40 EST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Testing starter Solenoid MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello,
I took my starter in on my 81 DeLorean today because I can't get it to
work. (its been sitting for a year) The starter shop said its perfect. I
am going to do the starter update soon but I should still hear the starter
move a little. I am guessing it could be the starter solenoid. As long as
the starter is off I would like to see if the solenoid swings over and
engages. what is the easiest to check this? The battery is brand new.
someone once told me how to do this but I no longer have the email.
Thanks
David vin#2496-still needs right quarter panel
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From: Delorean17(AT)aol.com Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 20:35:40 EST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] touching up frame MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello,
while I was working under my car the other day I noticed a few spots
where the epoxy had worn off the frame. While talking to a mechanic I asked
him what I should use to prevent rust. He said there is a special spray that
comes in a can that is textured made for frames. Has anyone ever used this?
He said that spray-in bedliner works the best. Thats what he used on
his truck frame and it looks great. He said its available in spray bottles
at most automotive stores. has anyone ever heard of this? If anyone has
any other suggestions please tell me. how should I go about preping before
painting? just sand and paint?
Thanks in advance,
David, vin#2496-needs
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From: CBL302(AT)aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 00:08:37 EST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Carfax reports MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I just checked on one of my Deloreans I sold in the past (vin SCEDT26T3DD016686) that car did not show that it had a Salvage title,(which it had when I bought it) I sold it with a "Rebuilt" title ,AND let the new owner in on that fact but if you look it up it shows it as a clean car, that Carfax says is OK to buy,the owner of Vin# 16686 if you are lurking out there please email me and I will give you the history and Video tape as I was doing the collision repairs and a before picture as the car sat with the damage,it just says that Carfax alone does not make a car a good car,do your own homework and do a title history check with the MVD,and get the names of previous owners and get the true history behind the cars,remember BUYER BEWARE,you get what you pay for,that good deal might not be as good as you think,after you do a REAL title history check.
Claude 000570 (can't find this vin in carfax)
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Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1999 23:15:07 -0800 From: Lee <support(AT)radiance.com> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Bleed Kit Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Fred wrote:
Lee, from where are these modification kits available, and at what price. Fred VIN #5683
Fred,
You could contact support(AT)radiance.com
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From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham(AT)cwcom.net> References: <19991206150634.66124.qmail(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 11:12:32 -0000 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: JZD Background info... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
When you've read that, for a view from "the other side" read, John De lorean, the Maverick Mogul, by Hillel Levin,isbn, 0-85613-561-5, ist published by Orbis Publishing, London 1983....... and if that's not enough try,..."Delorean, The Rise and Fall of a Dream Maker" by Ivan Fallon and James Strodes also published in 1983 by Hamish Hamilton,isbn.0-241-11087-4. These are much more critical than his Biography.
I think the best insite into JZ is .."On clear day you can see General Motors", this is also by De Lorean, but has J Patrick Wright's name on the cover, as JZ had last minite doubts about upsetting GM, its tells us all how senior men , did act and how they should have acted, it's just a pity JZ didn't follow all his own advice, as this was published in 1979, it was of course, before JZ 's started to produce cars, and many of the mistakes, he warns of in this book!
PS (BTW)
I personally have a great deal of respect and admiration for John Z De Lorean, at least HE TRIED and we lucky few, can go on enjoying his cars for many many years to come.( dispite what some ignorant and ill imformed members of the press may say)
Chris Parnham. De Lorean Owners Club (uk) www.delorean.co.uk
Let him who is perfect cast the first stone!
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> Greetings. > Take a trip to the library ang check out the book "Delorean" by JZD and Ted > Schwarz isbn - 0-310-37940-7 > This will be as close to talking with him as possible plus you will learn > more about our government than you will wish too. > > Rich Cutter > 5467-NS > > > >From: VIPERTV(AT)aol.com > >Reply-To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com > >To: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com > >Subject: [DML] JZD Background info... > >Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 20:29:07 EST > > > >Dear List: > > > > In Journalism class, we have to choose a person, and find information > >about that person's background. What they did that was famous, how they > >did > >it, and various other things. I chose to do John Z. DeLorean. I was > >curious > >if anyone can point me out to a website, or send me an email, about JZD and > >his accomplishments. I need to have 5 paragraphs about JZD, and make some > >interviewing questions. (Please note that I do not have to ask the man > >himself, but just make up questions and turn them into the teacher.) Any > >help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time. > > > >**Happy Holidays!** > >Steven Lawrence > >~vipertv(AT)aol.com > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > >www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > > >To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > >moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews > >http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > eGroups.com Home: http://www.egroups.com/group/dmcnews/ > http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications > >
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From: "Ian Foster" <ian(AT)netvigator.com> References: <3.0.1.32.19991205212223.008b8100(AT)207.95.192.54> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 20:33:03 +0800 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] New DeLorean Toy? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F2_01BF40F2.43155CC0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Hallo DMLers,
Serious DMCers please ignore this Post!
This might interest some of the avid DMC memorabilia collectors!? I've just= got back from working in Bangkok, Thailand where I found an unusual DeLore= an toy. Its a "Space Force" plastic, battery operated, made in China, kids = toy about 14cm(l) x 8cm(w) x 6cm(h). I think the manufacturer has used the = smaller (not the 1:24 models) 'Aoshima' "Back to the Furture" model as a mo= uld as the body size is identical. The models body is silver with BTTF engi= ne details, gas flap, hood lines, etc. They have gone overboard though with= a V12 engine protruding from the hood, guns mounted on the roof (must be f= or the USA market!!!), and little soldiers.
Could get a jpeg organised if anyone wants to see it.
Cheers, IAN (HongKong)
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Post!</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This might interest some of the avid = DMC =
memorabilia collectors!?</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I've just got b= ack from =
working in Bangkok, Thailand where I found an unusual DeLorean toy. It= s a =
"Space Force" plastic, battery operated, made in China, kids toy about 14cm= (l) x =
8cm(w) x 6cm(h). I think the manufacturer has used the smaller (not the 1:2= 4 =
models) 'Aoshima' "Back to the Furture" model as a mould as the body size i= s =
identical. The models body is silver with BTTF engine details, gas flap, ho= od =
lines, etc. They have gone overboard though with a V12 engine protruding fr= om =
the hood, guns mounted on the roof (must be for the USA market!!!), and lit= tle =
soldiers.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Could get a jpeg organised if anyone wants= to see =
it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Cheers,  = ; =
IAN (HongKong)</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV>
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Date: 07 Dec 99 12:42:36 +0000 From: Nick Ryan <nick(AT)imagenow.ie> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Running VIN numbers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks to everyone who replied regarding the VIN check. = I added the 'T' in and that seemed to do the trick. There was no record of = the car however. It was probably never in the states anyhow. Just wanted = to check. It's interesting that my 'official' document for ownership of the car = actually has the wrong chassis no. on it. Now what does that mean???
Regards
Nick
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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 08:16:23 -0500 From: Ann & Ed Thompson <RappaRivaRat(AT)erols.com> References: <384C37B1.2FEC04D(AT)peri.com> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: no start MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> here's the question....how could a battery go dead over night? It was > cold but i wouldn't think it could go dead so quick. > -Donald Kazmark
Depending upon what the drain was, yes, a battery could easily go completely dead overnight. I have even had the experience of a battery go completely dead overnight and would not take any charge at all. I am currently having a problem with my DeLorean where the battery will discharge rather rapidly, over several hours, but will hold enough charge to start after sitting for about half-hour or so, but not much longer. In this case a new battery is definitely in order. This will be my fourth battery since new, and only 9800 miles! It has been my experience that a frequently used battery will last much longer than a seldom used one, particularly if the seldom used battery is allowed to become completely or nearly discharged between uses. In a case where the battery is seldom used I would recommend a "marine" grade or "deep cycle" grade battery. They are supposed to withstand "complete discharges" better.
Regards, Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982)
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From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf(AT)innw.net> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 05:59:42 -0800 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] RE remote door opening, apology MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006D_01BF4078.418D5DA0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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To all listee's:
Sorry for that lengthy letter from me re the remote door opening etc yester=
day. I THOUGHT I had it addressed to the writer, Chris, but accidentally g=
ot it addressed to the List. However I got several nice personal Emails in=
response, which I had not anticipated.
Murray
Vin: 05962
Lic: DMC-XII
Washington State
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In-Reply-To: <009801bf4000$7c7fef40$f3b935cf(AT)murrayfi> References: <009801bf4000$7c7fef40$f3b935cf(AT)murrayfi> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 10:17:37 -0500 From: Peter Lucas <lucas(AT)maya.com> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Automatic opening gullwing doors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I would like to add my endorsement of Darryl's door-opener setup (and to thank Darryl for freely sharing it). I've only done one door so far, but it works great and its not really that hard--once you master the arcane skill of removing the lower door panel. Here are some comments:
--The actuator that Darryl specifies, while powerful, is quite compact and lightweight--just a few ounces, I'm guessing. --The "special built plate" is just a spacer the shape of the actuator (which is flat). Not at all critical and, since it is not really structural, could be made of any convenient material. --The hardest part is getting the extra wire from the door to your controller (which I located in the driver-side wiring compartment (above the locking cubby hole). There's a spare wire that gets you to the roof, but to use it you have to remove the T-roof and rear headliner. --I *am* going to have to adjust my struts a bit. I don't think it is due to the added weight (which is minimal). Rather, although my current adjustment is just adequate to operate the door manually, it doesn't quite have the initial torque to reliably start the door opening in the absence of an outward nudge. --I am controlling the opener with a Phoenix 2 car alarm by Avital (recommended to me by list member J.D. Robbins). Its perfect--has a 4 button fob, just the right outputs, and completely compatible with the Delorean's systems--including central door locks. You can get it for around $150 at http://www.cartoys.com. --One thing to consider is the safety of a system with the potential to open your doors at 60MPH. I worked up a little interlock (involving three tiny relays from Radio Shack) that will disable the openers unless (a) the doors are unlocked and (b) the car is in park (you manual guys could use "parking brake set"). If anyone would like the schematics for this, let me know.
--pete lucas VIN 6703 ----------------------------------------------------- At 7:41 AM -0800 12/6/99, Murray Fisher wrote: ...
>However Darryl Tinnerset in Olympia has >complete information on a "do it yourself" way to do this. I got this from >him a couple years ago but it is just too much tedious work for ME to tackle >at this stage. It requires opening the doors up and some delicate work both >in adding the solenoid and the wiring. It requires a hefty solenoid >preferably a motor driven geared type, as it has to pull a bunch of rods and >cables to unlatch the door mechanically. It needs a special built plate to >mount the solenoid in the correct spot too. ...
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From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 08:17:17 PST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] PJ Grady Backlot DeLorean Photos MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello all, Some time ago(a year perhaps) someone posted a few photos on a website showing (I think) the backlot at PJ Gradys which were FULL of DeLoreans (in various condition). Now, does someone out there have the webaddress for these photos? I think these photos were very interesting since they showed DeLoreans in various stages of restauration
I also seem to remember that the webaddress was published here on the DML and I tried looking in the Back Issues but unfortunately no results...
(And Im not talking about the photos from DeLorean Motor Center at Tamirs site...) Can someone point me in the right direction?
Best wishes Stian Birkeland NORWAY
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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 08:21:04 -0800 From: Lee <support(AT)radiance.com> In-Reply-To: <005001bf403c$31009380$f18ccdcf(AT)default> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Running VIN numbers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
At 04:48 PM 12/6/99 -0600, you wrote: >Nick > >My VIN has a "T" in between the 26 and check digit (on my case 9 as well). >So try SCEDT26T9DD016045. I ran it through my VIN calculcator and the check >digit computed correctly at "9". > snip......
Excuse this question, maybe I missed something some where.....
If I read the vin number on the door post of my DeLorean and do some sort of calculation the answer will confirm that the vin number stamped into the metal ID plate is correct? I don't get it? whats the point in that? The vin number is what it is, I can see a number being miss stamped at the plant, but once it is stamped into the metal what ever it may be, thats what gets recorded on all the paper work...That number is by it's very existence correct.
Lee
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From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 08:28:42 PST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Orange lights in the front. Please help! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Unfamiliar with the "American standard" regarding lights on a DeLorean, I have 3 questions:
1) When are the orange lights in the front of the car supposed to come on? Only at parking? When you drive and using headlights (low beam???
2) Are the orange lights in the front supposed to be turn-indicators also??? Are they suppose to flash together with the side markers?
3)If someone has messed in this area, where in the car can you change this back to the "American standard"???
The reason I ask is that in Norway, you are allowed to change back the lighting system to the original system wherever in the world that may be. In other words if you import a DeLorean from Europe that was modified in that particular European country after being exported from the USA, then you can modify it back to its original condition and not comply to EEC lights regulations. (Norway is not a member of the EEC, so we are allowed to do this still).
Best wishes Stian Birkeland NORWAY
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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 09:48:12 -0800 From: "eGroups.com Poll Results" <delorean502(AT)excite.com> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Voting Results: Which year do YOU own MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Here are the results of the vote:
1. All 3 years 2 2. 1983 8 3. 1982 11 4. 1981 34
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From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham(AT)cwcom.net> References: <384C37B1.2FEC04D(AT)peri.com> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 11:17:18 -0000 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: no start MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Yes it could, but have you still got your door light switches connected up? I don't bother now except for shows, in case the lights stop on -hence flat battery, for a similar reason the engine compartment and bonnet light are all temporarily disconnected.
CP DOC UK
----- Original Message ----- From: saintern <saintern(AT)peri.com> To: <dmcnews(AT)egroups.com> Sent: 06 December 1999 22:24 Subject: [DML] no start
> finally had my first problem with my car.....and it's not on the road > yet!....Last friday I go out to the car , turn the key and nothing. No > clicking ...nothing....I start to get nervous, but it ends up being the > battery...after a quick charge it was starting up with no problems....so > here's the question....how could a battery go dead over night? It was > cold but i wouldn't think it could go dead so quick. > -Donald Kazmark > vin 3541 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault > -- http://www.egroups.com/docvault/dmcnews/?m=1 > >
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