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----------------------------------------------------------------- 5269. DMC Joe Re: Difference in AC Facia Decal 81/82/83 5270. Gus Schlachter Re: Difference in AC Facia Decal 81/82/83 5271. Lee Re: VIN Calculation/Lee 5272. DMC83in99(AT)aol.com Re: Running VIN numbers 5273. Stian Birkeland Request for visiting DMC Norway's Website 5274. Jonathan Heslop Re: touching up frame 5275. Terri M Michigan DMC Owners Club 5276. Stian Birkeland DEALER PURIFICATION REPORT AS OF 01/18/82. 5277. J.M. Rooney CarFax, Crash test &more... 5278. J.M. Rooney After Market Fuel Flap? 5279. DeLorean31(AT)aol.com Re: CarFax, Crash test &more... 5280. Joe Palatinus New D' and problems 5281. Ann & Ed Thompson Re: After Market Fuel Flap? 5282. Lee Re: Running VIN numbers 5283. Lee Re: DEALER PURIFICATION REPORT AS OF 01/18/82. 5284. Robert Brandys Re: After Market Fuel Flap? 5285. Altomarine(AT)aol.com Re: New D' and problems 5286. LovDMC12(AT)aol.com Re: New D' and problems 5287. DMC Joe Re: New D' and problems -----------------------------------------------------------------
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From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> References: <19991207195053.77556.qmail(AT)hotmail.com> <000501bf4133$0d461ee0$3a83550c(AT)pavilion> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:36:24 -0800 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Difference in AC Facia Decal 81/82/83 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The fascia is part # 105186 which is the AC control panel translucent plastic panel. The item that Stian is referring to is the thin graphic sheet that is adhered to the font of the fascia. There are three different versions of this item which are not indicated in the parts manual. The one with the white text outline are found on early cars, it may even coincide with the Vin 1964 that Bruce mentioned. I don't know when the third graphic face appeared.
Happy Holiday's DMC Joe / De Lorean Services Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
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> The fascia panel was updated from vin # 1964 on. The functions of the > hardware were unchanged. > > Bruce Benson > > > > Can somebody on the list please shed any light on this one... > > > > I've seen two types of AC facia decals....they are both different on one > > particular place - the red/blue colors on the warm/cold air switch. > > Stian Birkeland > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- Create a poll/survey for your group! > -- http://www.egroups.com/vote?listname=dmcnews&m=1 > > >
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From: Gus Schlachter <gus(AT)clamsouth.com> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 16:06:33 -0600 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Difference in AC Facia Decal 81/82/83 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF41C8.7E01B42E" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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I recently replaced the A/C panel sticker with a new one from DMC Houston. It varied slightly from the original, having the white bars, but given my earlier negative comments about concours events I felt I had no right to complain. :-)
The odd part is that I have a late '81 VIN, and have a hard time believing there were any stickers left over from the first 1500 cars. I just kinda assumed that the new sticker I just got was a reproduction.
BTW, I got the new sticker because I peeled off the old one in an attempt to stop the panel light leaks via the liberal use of black paint. Do those stray rays bother anyone else, or is it just me?
Gus Austin, TX (In Boston, MA this week) VIN# 4695
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The fascia panel was updated from vin # 1964 on. The functions of the hardware were unchanged.
> I've seen two types of AC facia decals. they are both different in one > particular place - the red/blue colors on the warm/cold air switch. > Stian Birkeland
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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 16:05:15 -0800 From: Lee <support(AT)radiance.com> In-Reply-To: <19991207191727.84353.qmail(AT)hotmail.com> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: VIN Calculation/Lee MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
At 11:17 AM 12/7/99 PST, you wrote: > >Hi Lee! >Well, you're not quite correct because if the check digit doesn't match up >the VIN plate is fake/invalid. The system was designed so as to get approved >numbers. > >Take a look at this from Robert Lamrock: > >The Vehicle Identification Number is a 17 character alpha/numeric number >with 10 fixed characters and 7 variable characters:- > >SCEDT26T (X) AD 000000 >Constant Check Constant Ascending Digit Sequence > > SCE = World Manufacturer Code > D = Car Line > T = Series > 2 = Body Type > 6 = Engine > T = Restraint System > X = Check Digit > A = Model Year > D = Plant of Manufacture >000000 = Serial Number > >The year of manufacture is determined from the following table; >1980 A >1981 B >1982 C >1983 D >If production had continued then 1984 was coded E and so on. There were >codes in place right up to the year 2012!!! > >For those mathematicians out there you can calculate the Check Digit by the >following; >a) Assign to each number in the VIN its actual mathematical value and to >each letter the value specified in Table 1. >b) Multiply the assigned value for each character in the VIN by the weight >factor specified in Table 2. Multiply the check digit by 0. >c) Add the resulting products and divide the total by 11. >d) The remainder is the check digit. If the remainder is 10 the Check Digit >is X. > >Don't ask me how or why but it works!! (See my calculation below >tables) > >TABLE 1 Mathematical Value of Letters in the VIN >A = 1 B = 2 C = 3 D = 4 E = 5 F = 6 G = 7 H = 8 J = 1 K = 2 L = 3 >M =4 N = 5 P = 7 R = 9 S = 2 T = 3 U = 4 V = 5 W = 6 X = 7 Y = 8 >Z= 9 > >TABLE 2 Character and Weight Factor >1st = 8 2nd = 7 3rd = 6 4th = 5 5th = 4 6th = 3 7th = 2 8th = 10 >Check Digit = 0 >9th = 9 10th = 8 11th = 7 12th = 6 13th = 5 14th = 4 15th = 3 16th = >2 > >My VIN Calculation > >S C E D T 2 6 T (Check Digit) B D 0 0 3 9 1 5 >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >2 3 5 4 3 2 6 3 (0) 2 4 0 0 3 9 1 5 >X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X >8 7 6 5 4 3 2 10 (0) 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 >= >16 +21+ 30+ 20 +12 +6 +12 +30 +0 +18 + 32 + 0 + 0 + 15 + 36 + 3 + >10 > >Grand total = 261 > >Divide by 11 = 23 remainder 8. HEY PRESTO MY CHECK DIGIT ! > > >BEST WISHES >STIAN BIRKELAND >NORWAY > > Hello Stain,
Thanks for the copy of Robert Lamrock's Vin math solution. I guess I was not being clear enough in my post. I am aware of the vin verification math solution but I think that while I agree it would be a good way to do what you say, and had the DeLorean become another "Ford Thunderbird" in popularity I could see the value today. As a practical matter how many if any existing VIN numbers do you think are counterfeit? Just think about it for a moment...You not only have to remove all the Vin plates from the DeLorean, you also have to manufacture a new counterfeit ID plate more than 2nd and 3rd owners who know of or have paper trails to the original seller it is very unlikely that there are any actual counterfeit Vins any where to day.
I found it puzzling that there would be much if any interest other than a kind of parlor game for owners to fiddle with, like a cross word puzzle.
Cheers!
Lee
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From: DMC83in99(AT)aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 06:25:00 EST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Running VIN numbers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Reminds me of a funny story;
When I went to get my DMC registered at the DMV (boy, that sounds funny) it wasn't running at the time. So I took all the paperwork, and headed there. They actually made me go get a rubbing of the vin number because their computer showed it was a made up number. No, not just "number not found" or anything like that. She told me it said "false number". Of course, it didn't help that she couldn't find DeLorean, but could only find "De Lor EEN"...LOL...
Scott #16738
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From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 06:15:01 PST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Request for visiting DMC Norway's Website MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello, as of Dec. 8th. 1999, 3.20 CET, the Norwegian DeLorean Owners Website has 657 hits! Now, can the DML'ers please visit this site once, so that hopefully we will have over 1000 hits before the year 2000! Just 4 Fun! And please feel free to sign our DeLorean Guestbook!
Best wishes Stian Birkeland NORWAY VIN # 6759
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From: "Jonathan Heslop" <gatewayaag(AT)mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 08:28:57 -0600 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: touching up frame MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I used that spray in bedliner for my luggage compartment. Dupli-Color Truck Bedliner from Walmart. Was about $6 a can. Looks great!!
I hope it's not as harmful as you say it is!! I spent the whole morning out it my garage spraying that stuff. The can just suggests some sort of cross ventalation. I'm still living though.
As far as the setting up goes, it only takes a 15-20 minutes to dry. After that you can hit it with another coat. The farther back you hold the can, the more texture it gives. I suppose that the glue, or whatever is in it, has time to dry before it hits the surface when you give it some distance.
Good luck.......
--Jonathan #000697
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>He said that spray-in bedliner works the best. Thats what he used on his truck frame and it looks great. He said its available in spray bottles at most automotive stores. has anyone ever heard of this? <
The spray-in bedliner that I am familiar with is based on the same stuff that is the active ingredient in super-glue. The results are great, however the stuff is highly toxic before it sets up. The guy who applied it to my wife's truck used a full fresh air breather to apply it.
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From: "Terri M" <hobiedmc(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 10:11:51 EST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Michigan DMC Owners Club MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi list,
Are there any Delorean Owners located in Michigan? If yes, where in Michigan is everyone located? Would anyone be interested in forming a Michigan DMC Owners Club? Please contact me via email at hobiedmc(AT)hotmail.com.
I have a 81 Delorean in the Lansing area.
Terri
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From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway(AT)hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 08:15:43 PST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] DEALER PURIFICATION REPORT AS OF 01/18/82. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello,
I just received some DMC documents that were auctioned on EBAY. The documents include a list of company cars, daily sales report and perhaps the most important item: DMC's DEALER PURIFICATION REPORT AS OF 01/18/82.
As a free service, you can mail me and ask for info (previous owner, date when purchased etc.)on your car. Note that I do not have all the VIN numbers.
The only favor I ask you is that you state your COMPLETE VIN NUMBER. That way we can double-check to find out that your VIN is real. I will only reply to those that submit a COMPLETE VIN NUMBER a la SCEDT26T+++++++++
I will reply to all even if your car is not listed. Im also aware that I might get 500+ emails from this list, but Im willing to take the chance. This info is free for everyone in a true DeLorean spirit!
Please email your VIN request to this email instead of the Hotmail:
stian.birkeland-fk(AT)c2i.net
As a curiousity (and for those keeping track) here are the VINs of the cars that had "OCEAN FREIGHT DAMAGE". The document clearly state that these DeLoreans are "TO BE CRUSHED". I guess they were beyond repair. Im also wondering if these are the cars that were featured in an old DeLorean World Pictorial. Here goes:
3675 (auto) 2687 (manual) 2765 (auto) 3372 (auto) 3685 (manual) 3716 (manual)
The company that transported these car was: Kattegat
Best wishes Stian Birkeland NORWAY VIN # 6759
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 16:23:55 -0800 From: "J.M. Rooney" <dmcvegas(AT)worldnet.att.net> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] CarFax, Crash test &more... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi everybody! I know that it has been a while since I last posted, but my mail box got "bombed" and now I have been overrun with SPAM! I am now down to about 214 unread messages in my inbox! Anyhow, I am still trying to get everything together for the DOT Crash Test Films & Results. I was set back a bit because of a traffic ticket that I recieved, but all is looking good now. I will not take any orders for the tapes untill they are ready, which brings me to something else. I recently was able to uncover a Master Tape (reel) for the original "Live the Dream" television commercial. The owner will not sell it, however, I will try and see if he will make a copy for me. If I can get a copy, I will include it with the crash test video. I have also seen alot of postings about "CarFax.com". While this is not a "me too" posting, I did want to add this in. Currently I am looking to purchase a D that happens to be located in Denver. I ran the VIN through CarFax.com,and prettymuch got the same results as everyone else here. However, I also ran another VIN through for a vehicle that I KNOW had been in a serious accident, yet it still shown a clean title. So just to let everyone here that some things can slip through the cracks. Which also struck me with another idea. Would it be possible to run the VIN on a car that you currently own through the police? Maybe they could get better results. Any suggestions?
-Robert
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 16:39:45 -0800 From: "J.M. Rooney" <dmcvegas(AT)worldnet.att.net> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] After Market Fuel Flap? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Quick Question: On DMC Houston's web site, they stock the Fuel Flap (part #100525). So my question is this, is it possible to have the hood cut to install an "aftermarket" fuel flap?
-Robert
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From: DeLorean31(AT)aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 22:18:53 EST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: CarFax, Crash test &more... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 12/8/99 9:05:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, dmcvegas(AT)worldnet.att.net writes:
<< Would it be possible to run the VIN on a car that you currently own through the police? Maybe they could get better results. Any suggestions? >>
Any law enforcement entity can look up any vehicles VIN number. It will give a much more in depth report than carfax.com does. I ran my car through carfax.com and the information was not totally complete. However the State Motor Vehicle computers law enforcement agencies use have a much more up to date history of vehicles recent changes in registration and title changes. I have run my DeLorean through the computer where I work and it gives more detail than the interenet obviously. However the interenet cannot publish private information. This information is also confidential when running them through a law enforcement network. Everytime a VIN is run, it recorded by date of lookup and by who and for what reason. We also must sign off in a record book everytime the system is accesed for criminal or NCIC look ups. This prevents misuse of private information as it should.
Gary Gore Activites Director DeLorean Mid Atlantic
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 22:27:15 -0500 From: Joe Palatinus <jpalatinus(AT)earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <199912081635.IAA27072(AT)cardinal.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] New D' and problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Well I got my second Delorean yesterday, it has a brand new engine in it, but the body has 112,000 miles on it. I am sure some one has had a problem simmilar to this and knows how to fix it. The car starts fine completetly cold, and if I turn it on drive it around and turnit off it is fine. If I crank it right after (within 10 seconds) turning it off it starts fine, but if I wait ten minutes after cutting the engine, the car won't start for another 3 hours. The previous owner told me that he had never had any problems starting the car, but he said not to touch the gas pedal when you crank it because it is very sensitive, and will flood the engine. My guess is the problem is in the accumulater, but this is a rather uneducated guess. Also the coolant bottle in the back is below the min line, If I fill it up do I need to bleed it? If so where is the bleed screw? I could not locate it even with the aid of the parts manual. On another note, the direction signals, horn and Hazard light do not work. I checked the fuse, and it seemed fine The bulbs work because the parking lights work, so where else are the hazzard lights and direction signals attached. I thank every one for reading this long e-mail, and wih every one a happy Delorean Holiday!! Joe P. VIN 6808 and VIN 17167 Thanks again
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Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 00:18:05 -0500 From: Ann & Ed Thompson <RappaRivaRat(AT)erols.com> References: <82mtoh$egua(AT)eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: After Market Fuel Flap? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> "J.M. Rooney" wrote: > > Quick Question: On DMC Houston's web site, they stock the Fuel Flap > (part #100525). So my question is this, is it possible to have the hood > cut to install an "aftermarket" fuel flap?
Of course! Most anything is possible if you have the money Robert! It is also possible to have a BTTF version, although it may not fly.
Regards, Ed Thompson (#6419 since 1982, no fuel flap and no desire to have one)
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Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 05:11:39 -0800 From: Lee <support(AT)radiance.com> In-Reply-To: <0.be849a51.257f9a0c(AT)aol.com> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: Running VIN numbers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
At 06:25 AM 12/8/99 EST, you wrote: >Reminds me of a funny story; > >When I went to get my DMC registered at the DMV (boy, that sounds funny) it >wasn't running at the time. So I took all the paperwork, and headed there. >They actually made me go get a rubbing of the vin number because their >computer showed it was a made up number. No, not just "number not found" or >anything like that. She told me it said "false number". Of course, it >didn't help that she couldn't find DeLorean, but could only find "De Lor >EEN"...LOL... > >Scott
Hi Scott,
DMC at the DMV does sound funny...which reminds me of my very own Vin story...
I to went to my local DMV to register my De Lorean several years ago. You had to get in a car line up hear line" and the inspector would have each car move up under this over hang to inspect the car. You had to run all the equipment, horn, lights, turn signals...the usual.
While looking for the Vin and engine numbers the inspector asked me if I had any trouble with the Helicopter engine! By that time most of the others in line had gathered around my shiny new DMC-12 Gullwing doors up! all waited for me to start the HELO' engine to hear what it sounded like. It turned out that the inspector had never seen a Delorean ever before in his life.
Of course when I got inside to pay the fees etc, the computer did not know about my out of state DMC-12. Bit it had no problem accepting the $1200 to register it in California.
Lee
BTW what is really funny about all this is I flew the HC-21 for two years in SE Asia back in the 60's. maybe that is why I find hearing the engine rumble just behind me when drive my D'.
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Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 04:38:58 -0800 From: Lee <support(AT)radiance.com> In-Reply-To: <19991208161543.40370.qmail(AT)hotmail.com> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: DEALER PURIFICATION REPORT AS OF 01/18/82. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
At 08:15 AM 12/8/99 PST, you wrote: >Hello, > >I just received some DMC documents that were auctioned on EBAY. The >documents include a list of company cars, daily sales report and perhaps the >most important item: DMC's DEALER PURIFICATION REPORT AS OF 01/18/82. > Snip........................... ...........................snip
>The only favor I ask you is that you state your COMPLETE VIN NUMBER. That >way we can double-check to find out that your VIN is real. I will only reply >to those that submit a COMPLETE VIN NUMBER a la SCEDT26T+++++++++ > Snip ......to end.
Wait a minute Stain....come on now.....!
I don't understand all this talk about fake vin numbers? You can't be serious about "real Vin numbers". Please explain to all of us why you feel the need to suggest that ANY of our Vin numbers are "NOT REAL".
Look!.. as a practical matter apart from transposition in transcription all Vin numbers taken from an actual owned DMC-12 is "REAL" on it's face. Un less you have some specific reason to suspect that there are counterfeit Plates circulating today or for that matter at any time in the past I think it is irresponsible to suggest that such counterfeits even exist.
Don't take this wrong! no insult is intended here, but how do we know that any reply we might get from you is correct in the first place, one way or the other? You know of course there are several very well documented VIN list available that any one can use to look up their own Vin number. I have used with great success the DML list to cross check my limited edition Vin numbers and so far not a single Vin number given me has been incorrect.
I believe that the issue of counterfeit Vin numbers is important enough that it be pursued hear on the list. Please let us all know more details about your reasons to suspect that there is a problem with counterfeit Vin numbers.
Lee
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Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 07:31:21 -0600 From: Robert Brandys <oehcs(AT)flash.net> References: <82mtoh$egua(AT)eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: After Market Fuel Flap? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On the 97™ DeLorean we cut the hood and installed the fuel door. It was not very hard to do, but you need some experience and tools in working with metal to keep the bends flat and square. It sure makes putting gas in the car a lot easier.
Dr. bob
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From: Altomarine(AT)aol.com Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 09:16:54 EST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: New D' and problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sir, I put up with the exact problems you describe for years.(?) I installed a new accumulator and it did nothing. The problem persisted. After a short consultation with my Houston "guru", the problem is solved. There in the engine compartment, left forward bulkhead, near the compartment light, is a ceramic "capacitor" thingie. Has wires coming off both ends. Remove them, put them back on, remove them, put them back on, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle. My car has performed flawlessly since that time. My car sits alot, has ince I bought it 20 years ago. So I think it is a corrosion problem; all gone now! MHL
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From: LovDMC12(AT)aol.com Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:04:59 EST X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: New D' and problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Joe,
I had the same start problem you had, and a new accumulator solved the problem. The air bleed screw is located on the top of the water pump. It is a small screw that faces towrd the rear of the car. It isn't the easiest part to get to when you have to bleed the system. I wouldn't think you'd have to bleed the system just because you added some coolant. I've had to add coolant before and never had any problems, so I never bled the system.
Brian VIN 1597
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From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> References: <3.0.1.32.19991208222715.0071cdfc(AT)earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:46:23 -0800 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews(AT)egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: New D' and problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The "no hot start problem" is probably due to a defective fuel accumulator. The previous owner is incorrect about flooding the engine when you step on the accelerator. In the CIS fuel injection system pushing the accelerator while cranking the car increased air volume not fuel.
You do not have to air bleed the cooling system when adding coolant. To prevent this problem in the future you can purchase our Cooling System Overheat Protector. Instructions are included with details on the location of the air bleed screw. By the way, once you install our product, air bleeding will not be necessary for the life of the car.
Concerning your direction signals, horn and hazard flasher are you sure you checked fuse # 6. In some cases a blade fuse can look O.K. but it may actually be bad.
Happy Holiday's DMC Joe / De Lorean Services Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Palatinus <jpalatinus(AT)earthlink.net> To: <dmcnews(AT)egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 7:27 PM Subject: [DML] New D' and problems
> Well I got my second DeLorean yesterday, it has a brand new engine in it, > but the body has 112,000 miles on it. I am sure some one has had a problem > simmilar to this and knows how to fix it. The car starts fine completetly > cold, and if I turn it on drive it around and turnit off it is fine. If I > crank it right after (within 10 seconds) turning it off it starts fine, but > if I wait ten minutes after cutting the engine, the car won't start for > another 3 hours. The previous owner told me that he had never had any > problems starting the car, but he said not to touch the gas pedal when you > crank it because it is very sensitive, and will flood the engine. My guess > is the problem is in the accumulater, but this is a rather uneducated > guess. Also the coolant bottle in the back is below the min line, If I > fill it up do I need to bleed it? If so where is the bleed screw? I could > not locate it even with the aid of the parts manual. On another note, the > direction signals, horn and Hazard light do not work. I checked the fuse, > and it seemed fine The bulbs work because the parking lights work, so > where else are the hazzard lights and direction signals attached. I thank > every one for reading this long e-mail, and wih every one a happy Delorean > Holiday!! > Joe P. > VIN 6808 > and VIN 17167 > Thanks again > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at: > www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html > > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address: > moderator(AT)dmcnews.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! > -- http://www.egroups.com/cal?listname=dmcnews&m=1 > > >
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