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5296. J.D. Robbins              Re: Running VIN numbers
5297. KIRK BRANDON              Dearborn,Detroit
5298. Stian Birkeland           Fake VINs?
5299. Mike $                    Cleaning Corrosion
5300. Dick Ryan                 Re: Possibility of new out of print DeLorean book
5301. Mike $                    Part #/Part Wanted:
5302. Chip Shirek               Re: AHHHH NO BRAKES!!!
5303. Stian Birkeland           DeLorean Company Cars/ Personal Cars
5304. Tom Niemczewski           Re: gas flap
5305. Phil F                    Re: POLL: The average age of a DeLorean owner
5306. Phil F                    Re: AHHHH NO BRAKES!!!
5307. NJP548(AT)aol.com            Re: Part #/Part Wanted:
5308. Dave Stragand             Front spindle & angle drive question + DMC Restor
5309. DMC Joe                   Re: Cleaning Corrosion
5310. DMC Joe                   Re: AHHHH NO BRAKES!!!
5311. DMC Joe                   Re: Part #/Part Wanted:
5312. DMC Joe                   Re: DeLorean Company Cars/ Personal Cars
5313. .                         Print it again...
5314. DMC5524(AT)aol.com           Re: POLL: The average age of a DeLorean owner
5315. dmc5524(AT)aol.com           POLL: What is your DeLorean used for?
5316. ROBLAMROCK(AT)aol.com        Re: gas flap
5317. Altomarine(AT)aol.com        Re: Cleaning Corrosion
5318. Robert Brandys            Re: Cleaning Corrosion
5319. d_nieves(AT)hotmail.com      contact cleaner
5320. NBeatson(AT)aol.com          Engine Bay Cover
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Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 23:57:41 -0800
From: "J.D. Robbins" <jrobbins(AT)brit.ca>
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> Of course I'll have replay my experience at the local DMV when I
registered 
> my Delorean back in '84.  While waiting for the clerk to look over my
bill of 
> sale and chatting with a car dealer who was also in line, the clerk
looked at 
> the purchase price ($20K+) and shouted, "What kind of a car is this
Delorean 
> anyway?"  To which I replied, "It not a car.  It's a time machine!" 
Good 
> thing for me she had a sense of humor.
How in 84 did you know that Back to the Future would use it in their
upcoming 1985 movie?
J

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Date: 10 Dec 99 05:21:41 PST
From: KIRK BRANDON <DELOREAN02378(AT)netscape.net>
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Hey Folks, I was just wondering if there were any Delorean owners in Dear=
born
or Detroit. I'm heading up there next week and I'd like to meet with any
fellow owners. I'm planning on eating at Fish Bones on Wednesday night th=
e
15th so send me an e-mail if anyone can make it. Thanks.
Kirk Vin#02378(Stainless) 10246 (Blue)
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From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway(AT)hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 06:31:58 PST
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Subject: [DML] Fake VINs?
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>From: Lee <support(AT)radiance.com>
>Wait a minute Stain....come on now.....!
>I don't understand all this talk about fake vin numbers? You can't be
>serious about "real Vin numbers". Please explain to all of us why >you feel 
>the need to suggest that ANY of our Vin numbers are "NOT >REAL".
Maybe I didn't expressed myself good enough, but what I meant with "REAL" 
VIN numbers was that we can doublecheck the VINS! The VIN on the DeLoreans 
out there AND the VINS I have in my papers. I'm not saying that I have a 
suspicion of any fake VINS, all I'm saying is that we can doublecheck. Now, 
suppose some of the VINS in my papers have a printing error. Then I can get 
the correct VIN from you who own the car. Co-operation is the keyword here.
I plan to make this info available on DMC Norway's Website in the near 
future: http://home.sol.no/~delorean
Thanks for everyone visiting our website! Will we reach 1000 hits before 
year 2000? :) Please take time to sign our guestbook too!
As of today, 73 people have aquired about their VINs. Im in the process of 
replying to all 73. Stay tuned!!!
>Unless you have some specific reason to suspect that there are >counterfeit 
>Plates circulating today or for that matter at any time >in the past I 
>think it is irresponsible to suggest that such >counterfeits even exist. 
>Please let us all know more details
>about your reasons to suspect that there is a problem with >counterfeit Vin 
>numbers.
>
>Lee
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From: "Mike $" <sheilaridez(AT)hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:03:51 GMT
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Hi,  What is the best method for cleaning corroded wire connections (i.e. 
The plug that connects the power to the tail-light circuit board, and the 
board itself).  I have had suggested to me using a file, or coca-cola to 
clean them, but I wanted to know if there is a solvent or very effective way 
to do this first.  I also am going to be cleaning all fuse-box connections, 
and various connections in the engine compartment.
thanks,
Mike Schaefer
Vin: 1118
Red/Black 5-speed
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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 08:28:26 -0700
From: raddad(AT)cmn.net (Dick Ryan)
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Subject: [DML] Re: Possibility of new out of print DeLorean books
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As an experienced and successful bookseller, let me clarify a couple of
points before any of you get real excited about the possibililty of getting
a "new" copy of Stainless Steel Illusion.
"Print on demand" services have been around for a few years now.  Most of
these services have been offered by book wholesalers who respond to orders
from retailers.  The books offered to far have been of the more scholarly,
literary type.  Typically these are text oriented books as opposed to
picture books.
The process is considerably more complicated that simply scanning a book
and then printing it.  Two essential economic factors must be taken into
consideration;  i.e., how many copies can be expected to be sold over a
measureable period of time and will the original
author/publisher/photographer grant permission to "reprint" the book.
The bottom line is that unless B&N (who is doing this in partnership with a
wholsaler), Ingram (a wholesaler who provides this service) or someone else
can see a sufficient demand for a particular book, it won't be "printed on
demand" becausse the cost would be even higher than the going rate for
"rare" book in question.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867





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From: "Mike $" <sheilaridez(AT)hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:35:10 GMT
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Hi,  I need part # for a piece that I can't find in the parts databases I 
have searched.  It is the plastic cover in the engine compartment that stops 
water from getting on the wires in the back right corner, right on top.  It 
is fairly large.  I'm also in need of this part if anyone has it.  I'll try 
to buy it new if I can get the # and look it up.
Thanks again,
Mike Schaefer
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From: "Chip Shirek" <cshirek(AT)mail.deipro.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:01:13 -0700
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Subject: [DML] Re: AHHHH NO BRAKES!!!
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alrighty now ive got a big problem.  My daily driver is in california
getting serviced while i go to school in phoenix.  So cause i wouldn't have
a car, i brought back the delorean! Coming out was fine and the last week it
has been fine. Except this morning, on my way to work and as i was pulling
out of my complex, i pushed the brakes to stop for oncoming traffic and
nothing happened. I basically had to stand on the brake pedal to get it to
stop. and that BARELY worked. I put it in reverse and went back a ways and
tried again. still like that. I had my car at don stegers place a while back
and he told me that my pads were okay and i havn't driven the d too much
since then. could it be the pads? i had a moment to check the drivers manual
and it said where to add brake fluid, right in the front of the hood there.
Could it be that its out of brake fulid?
I dont know too much about brakes. The brakes on the car (lately) have
always been weird, meaning that i would have to push the pedal abnormally
far to get the car to stop but today nothing seemed to work. This is my only
car until next week! does anybody have an idea what this could be? help!
chip
vin 1230
until 5:00 today (arizona time) i can be reached at cshirek(AT)deipro.com
after 5:00 i will be at rubberneck1(AT)home.com
(any kingpin'ers out there? im a local at the CHIP MERCHANT, im there late
at night. past 11:00 usually. sometimes during the day too.  -rubberneck)

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From: "Stian Birkeland" <dmc_norway(AT)hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 10:05:28 PST
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Hello all,
In my papers I've found a list of VINs showing the various company DeLoreans 
and the personal DeLoreans.
COMPANY CARS
Here is the WESTERN - SANTA ANA/IRVINE DeLoreans:
VIN TRANS  ASSIGNMENT
D28 auto   Irvine (Eng. Mule)
0859 manual QAC-SA (Fire Unit)
0711 manual J. Howbert (Repurchase)
5040 manual QAC-SA (Freight Damage - awaiting insurance settlement)
5448 manual QAC-SA (Freight Damage - awaiting insurance settlement)
0538 manual Irvine
4523 manual J. Carson - Cash
1414 manual R. Nesseth (Repurchase)
COMPANY CARS
Here is the EASTERN - SOMERVILLE, NJ DeLoreans:
VIN   TRANS  ASSIGNMENT
10197 auto   T.W. Kimmerly
10568 manual J.Z. DeLorean
06074 auto   Captest Labs
06083 manual Captest Labs
03062 auto   DeLorean Perfume
02972 manual QAC Repair
03315 manual QAC (BofA - for sale)
01585 manual Smokey Yunick-Daytona Beach-Cash
             (Eng. mule) - owned - DMCA
PERSONAL CARS
VIN   TRANS  ASSIGNMENT
00532 manual Doyle Potter
00548 manual Unassigned
00549 auto   Photo Unit
00668 auto   Tony Dibna
00685 auto   Ron Lowe
00692 manual Unassigned
00706 manual Eric Smith
00712 manual Craig Haglan
00725 auto   Leif Montin
00728 manual Craig Kuisinger
00732 auto   John Dawson
00736 auto   Ron Bertrum
00737 manual Olsen Engineering
00739 manual Damaged by Olsen Engineering QAC, S.A.
00760 manual Joel West
00763 auto   Ed Bumbalo
00771 auto   Unassigned
00783 auto   L. Feuerabendt
00805 auto   R. Nesseth
00808 manual Bill Charles
00816 manual Eric Johnson
00858 manual Olsen Engineering
00861 manual Damaged QAC, S.A.
00864 manual Time Study Unit
01106 manual Leonard Hamnes
01151 auto   John Howbert
01276 manual Doug Semer
01286 manual Unassigned
01759 manual Unassigned
01767 manual Neil McNutt
02038 manual Henry Bushkin
02172 auto   Sammy Davis, JR
02260 manual Unassigned
02383 manual Unassigned
02439 manual Johnny Carson
02440 manual Doug Patterson
03210 manual John DeLorean
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL DML'ERS! AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Best wishes
Mr. Stian Birkeland
Flekkefjord, NORWAY
VIN # 6759
WEB: http://home.sol.no/~delorean/
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From: "Tom Niemczewski" <tomcio(AT)gtemail.net>
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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 23:16:16 +0100
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Subject: [DML] Re: gas flap
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Hi,
That is not all correct. My D is vin 6298 and it has a flat hood - no lines,
no gas flap! It is original from the factory.
Go figure.
Tom Niemczewski
tomcio(AT)gtemail.net
vin 6298
----- Original Message -----
> A factory bulletin issued in September 1981 states that;"As of VIN 3200,
the
> front hood has been changed and the gas filler flap has been eliminated."
> (This was the introduction of the grooved hood, the flat hood being
> introduced at VIN 10001)
> Robert Lamrock
> Belfast


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From: "Phil F" <delorean(AT)usfamily.net>
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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 19:03:32 -0600
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Subject: [DML] Re: POLL: The average age of a DeLorean owner
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I like the idea of a poll, BUT there are some members under 16, to tell you
the truth I'm only 13.
-Phil
philf(AT)ssesco.com
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To: <dmcnews(AT)egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 9:24 PM
Subject: [DML] POLL: The average age of a DeLorean owner
> Did you ever notice that DeLorean owners come in all ages?  This is a car
that can't be stereotyped to one age class.  From young to old everyone
seems to love the "D".  So within what age range do you fall under?
(Identities are anonymous)
> ----
>
> Please select one of the following:
>
>    o 16-22
>    o 23-29
>    o 30-36
>    o 37-43
>    o 44-50
>    o 50-56
>    o 57-63
>    o 63- Over
>
>
> by going to the following Web form:
>
>    http://www.egroups.com/vote?id=944796249591&listname=dmcnews
>
> Thank you!
>
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From: "Phil F" <delorean(AT)usfamily.net>
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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 20:10:35 -0600
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I recommend taking a look at the masted cylinder see if there is a leak, or
maybe you're out of brake fluid.
-Phil
philf(AT)ssesco.com
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From: "Chip Shirek" <cshirek(AT)mail.deipro.com>
To: <dmcnews(AT)egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 11:01 AM
Subject: [DML] Re: AHHHH NO BRAKES!!!
> alrighty now ive got a big problem.  My daily driver is in california
> getting serviced while i go to school in phoenix.  So cause i wouldn't
have
> a car, i brought back the delorean! Coming out was fine and the last week
it
> has been fine. Except this morning, on my way to work and as i was pulling
> out of my complex, i pushed the brakes to stop for oncoming traffic and
> nothing happened. I basically had to stand on the brake pedal to get it to
> stop. and that BARELY worked. I put it in reverse and went back a ways and
> tried again. still like that. I had my car at don stegers place a while
back
> and he told me that my pads were okay and i havn't driven the d too much
> since then. could it be the pads? i had a moment to check the drivers
manual
> and it said where to add brake fluid, right in the front of the hood
there.
> Could it be that its out of brake fulid?
> I dont know too much about brakes. The brakes on the car (lately) have
> always been weird, meaning that i would have to push the pedal abnormally
> far to get the car to stop but today nothing seemed to work. This is my
only
> car until next week! does anybody have an idea what this could be? help!
>
> chip
> vin 1230
>
> until 5:00 today (arizona time) i can be reached at cshirek(AT)deipro.com
> after 5:00 i will be at rubberneck1(AT)home.com
>
> (any kingpin'ers out there? im a local at the CHIP MERCHANT, im there late
> at night. past 11:00 usually. sometimes during the day too.  -rubberneck)
>
>
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From: NJP548(AT)aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:25:12 EST
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Hey Mike,
 The part you are referring to is called the Ignition Coil Cover.  It is part 
# 110227.  It was superseded to that part #.  The first part # that was used 
for that part is part#105905.  The weird thing is that in the price list that 
USADMC had that I downloaded and printed out says the part is $58.67, but on 
their web page the price of the part is $109.00.  If you want to double check 
that part go to the USADMC web page and then go to the online store and go to 
section 3-7-0.  It is reference #16.  Hope this helps.
Later,
Nick
VIN#1852......gonna be a Complete Tear-down and Rebuilt DeLorean, wish me 
luck!!
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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:53:48 -0500
From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand(AT)ketchum.com>
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Hi All,
Work is progressing steadily on #5927.  I promise to give more details
later.
I have the front suspension all assembled, but of course now I realize
something is wrong.  The spindle spins in the steering knuckle, and I
can't seem to tighten it up from the nut on the back attached to the
angle drive.
The first problem was, I didn't have an open-end wrench large enough to
tighten the bolt, and the angle drive.  Obviously a socket won't work on
this nut because of the angle drive, so I was left scouring Pittsburgh
for a 34(?)mm open-end wrench.  I had to settle on a large
adjustable-end wrench (which I was fortunate enough to find in
metric!).  =)
However, I just can't seem to get a grip on the spindle tight enough to
get any leverage on the nut to either loosen or tighten it.  Hopefully
there's a way to do this on the car, so I don't have to pop all of the
new ball joints and steering ball joint to have the spindle pressed in.
Now, I have considered that the spindle, when tightened to the hub, will
probably not spin due to the tension on it between the two nuts.
However, something just doesn't sit right with me on that one.
Primarily, the taper on the spindle would actually be getting -looser-
not tighter as the outside nut was tightened.
I am guessing that the previous owner never tried to take it apart due
to 1) the large size of the nut, 2) there are no markings on the nut
indicating it has been attempted, 3) he didn't take off the other side,
4) the nut seems to be pretty darn well tightened already.  Has anyone
ever heard of a spindle loosening up like that under normal use?
Any suggestions?  Here's what I have tried thus far:
- tapping the spindle in to get enough friction to turn the angle drive
nut
- gripping the "D" washer with channel locks
- gently heating the nut to try and break it loose (or tight)
I'm considering freezing the spindle with liquid CO2 and tapping it in,
so when it warms back up it expands and gets a grip (I have a large CO2
tank in my garage).
On a related side note, my front wheel bearings seem to have an
interference fit with the spindle.  Is this normal?  I don't know if the
two new wheel bearings installed in the hubs are correct, as they were
there when I bought the (disassembled) car.  Peter Lucas stated his
whole hub slid right off the spindle when he removed the nut.  That
sounds more likely to me.
Any help is appreciated on both questions.
Now, the fun part.  I spent the last few nights putting together a
'garage computer' with a video camera to allow y'all to see me
assembling #5927 live via the internet.  It should be premiering soon.
I'll keep you posted as things progress.
Well, I'm off to Philadelphia in the morning to possibly buy an engine
(yeah, I know, that's cheating), luggage rack, and set of Delorean World
mags.  I hope the engine fits in the trunk of my Grand Marquis.  A Chevy
350 does, so I guess a D engine will be close.
-Dave
#5927
Pittsburgh

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From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
References: <19991210150351.17474.qmail(AT)hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 22:40:18 -0800
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Subject: [DML] Re: Cleaning Corrosion
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Mike,
The best product to use on all the De Loren electrical connectors is
"contact cleaner". This product is sold under several brand names and can be
found at most automotive and electronic parts stores. Be sure to read the
warning labels prior to use.
Happy Holiday's
DMC Joe / De Lorean Services
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike $ <sheilaridez(AT)hotmail.com>
To: <dmcnews(AT)egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 7:03 AM
Subject: [DML] Cleaning Corrosion
> Hi,  What is the best method for cleaning corroded wire connections (i.e.
> The plug that connects the power to the tail-light circuit board, and the
> board itself).  I have had suggested to me using a file, or coca-cola to
> clean them, but I wanted to know if there is a solvent or very effective
way
> to do this first.  I also am going to be cleaning all fuse-box
connections,
> and various connections in the engine compartment.
> thanks,
> Mike Schaefer
> Vin: 1118
> Red/Black 5-speed



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From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
References: <000e01bf4330$2a084720$7901010a(AT)chip_shirek.DEIPRO.COM>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 23:06:10 -0800
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Chip,
From your description you have had a catastrophic brake system failure; this
is extremely unusual. Here is what you need to do: Do not drive the car;
next access the brake reservoir which is located under the carpet in the
front luggage compartment on the drivers side floor. After lifting the
rubber access cover unscrew the orange cap. You don't have to remove the
cap, just pull it up enough to see if there is any fluid in the receiver. If
it is empty you have had a brake system hydraulic failure.
BTW; if indeed the system is empty of brake fluid your dash mounted "red"
BRAKE warning lamp should be lit continuously. We have found many cars with
this plug detached, if that was the case your warning light would remain
off.
In any case locate a reputable brake service facility, and have your car
transported there for the proper service.
If the service personal need any assistance they are free to call me at 770
631-4800 9 AM-6PM Mon.-Fri.
----- Original Message -----
From: Chip Shirek <cshirek(AT)mail.deipro.com>
To: <dmcnews(AT)egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 9:01 AM
Subject: [DML] Re: AHHHH NO BRAKES!!!
> alrighty now ive got a big problem.  My daily driver is in california
> getting serviced while i go to school in phoenix.  So cause i wouldn't
have
> a car, i brought back the delorean! Coming out was fine and the last week
it
> has been fine. Except this morning, on my way to work and as i was pulling
> out of my complex, i pushed the brakes to stop for oncoming traffic and
> nothing happened. I basically had to stand on the brake pedal to get it to
> stop. and that BARELY worked. I put it in reverse and went back a ways and
> tried again. still like that. I had my car at don stegers place a while
back
> and he told me that my pads were okay and i havn't driven the d too much
> since then. could it be the pads? i had a moment to check the drivers
manual
> and it said where to add brake fluid, right in the front of the hood
there.
> Could it be that its out of brake fulid?
> I dont know too much about brakes. The brakes on the car (lately) have
> always been weird, meaning that i would have to push the pedal abnormally
> far to get the car to stop but today nothing seemed to work. This is my
only
> car until next week! does anybody have an idea what this could be? help!
>
> chip
> vin 1230


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From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
References: <19991210153510.28688.qmail(AT)hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 22:40:47 -0800
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Mike,
The item you are looking for is the (Engine Harness Support) Cover part#
105905 / 110227. Parts Manual 3 / 7 / 0 fig 16. Currently priced at $54.55.
Happy Holiday's
DMC Joe / De Lorean Services
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike $ <sheilaridez(AT)hotmail.com>
To: <dmcnews(AT)egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 7:35 AM
Subject: [DML] Part #/Part Wanted:
> Hi,  I need part # for a piece that I can't find in the parts databases I
> have searched.  It is the plastic cover in the engine compartment that
stops
> water from getting on the wires in the back right corner, right on top.
It
> is fairly large.  I'm also in need of this part if anyone has it.  I'll
try
> to buy it new if I can get the # and look it up.
> Thanks again,
> Mike Schaefer



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From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
References: <19991210180528.97892.qmail(AT)hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 23:16:58 -0800
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Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Company Cars/ Personal Cars
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WOW!!!
This is the most exciting "D" Vin list I have ever seen !
Great find Stian; keep um' commin'!
Happy Holiday's
DMC Joe / De Lorean Services
Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: Stian Birkeland <dmc_norway(AT)hotmail.com>
To: <dmcnews(AT)egroups.com>
Cc: <james(AT)usadmc.com>
Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 10:05 AM
Subject: [DML] DeLorean Company Cars/ Personal Cars
> Hello all,
>
> In my papers I've found a list of VINs showing the various company
DeLoreans
> and the personal DeLoreans.
>
> COMPANY CARS
> Here is the WESTERN - SANTA ANA/IRVINE DeLoreans:
>
> VIN TRANS  ASSIGNMENT
> D28 auto   Irvine (Eng. Mule)
> 0859 manual QAC-SA (Fire Unit)
> 0711 manual J. Howbert (Repurchase)
> 5040 manual QAC-SA (Freight Damage - awaiting insurance settlement)
> 5448 manual QAC-SA (Freight Damage - awaiting insurance settlement)
> 0538 manual Irvine
> 4523 manual J. Carson - Cash
> 1414 manual R. Nesseth (Repurchase)
>
>
> COMPANY CARS
> Here is the EASTERN - SOMERVILLE, NJ DeLoreans:
>
> VIN   TRANS  ASSIGNMENT
> 10197 auto   T.W. Kimmerly
> 10568 manual J.Z. DeLorean
> 06074 auto   Captest Labs
> 06083 manual Captest Labs
> 03062 auto   DeLorean Perfume
> 02972 manual QAC Repair
> 03315 manual QAC (BofA - for sale)
> 01585 manual Smokey Yunick-Daytona Beach-Cash
>              (Eng. mule) - owned - DMCA
>
>
> PERSONAL CARS
> VIN   TRANS  ASSIGNMENT
> 00532 manual Doyle Potter
> 00548 manual Unassigned
> 00549 auto   Photo Unit
> 00668 auto   Tony Dibna
> 00685 auto   Ron Lowe
> 00692 manual Unassigned
> 00706 manual Eric Smith
> 00712 manual Craig Haglan
> 00725 auto   Leif Montin
> 00728 manual Craig Kuisinger
> 00732 auto   John Dawson
> 00736 auto   Ron Bertrum
> 00737 manual Olsen Engineering
> 00739 manual Damaged by Olsen Engineering QAC, S.A.
> 00760 manual Joel West
> 00763 auto   Ed Bumbalo
> 00771 auto   Unassigned
> 00783 auto   L. Feuerabendt
> 00805 auto   R. Nesseth
> 00808 manual Bill Charles
> 00816 manual Eric Johnson
> 00858 manual Olsen Engineering
> 00861 manual Damaged QAC, S.A.
> 00864 manual Time Study Unit
> 01106 manual Leonard Hamnes
> 01151 auto   John Howbert
> 01276 manual Doug Semer
> 01286 manual Unassigned
> 01759 manual Unassigned
> 01767 manual Neil McNutt
> 02038 manual Henry Bushkin
> 02172 auto   Sammy Davis, JR
> 02260 manual Unassigned
> 02383 manual Unassigned
> 02439 manual Johnny Carson
> 02440 manual Doug Patterson
> 03210 manual John DeLorean
>
> MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL DML'ERS! AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!
>
> Best wishes
> Mr. Stian Birkeland
> Flekkefjord, NORWAY
> VIN # 6759
>
> WEB: http://home.sol.no/~delorean/




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From: "." <jdl(AT)interax.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 23:24:34 -0500
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Subject: [DML] Print it again...
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Dick Ryan has a point regarding re-printing Stainless Steel Illusion in =
hardcover.  It would not be nearly expensive to reprint it in a =
softcover edition, particularly if the color sections were reprinted in =
black and white.  I would guess that at 15-25.00 each pre orders for =
1000-1500 copies could be presold, particularly if this edition had =
updates and perhaps a new chapter by Lamm.  A lot has happened since =
1984 at between libraries, DMC/DOA folks and BTTF collectors, I'm sure =
it would sell well, particularly with SSI's reputation as the =
unchallenged definitive look at the DMC.
David Levey
Cleveland

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From: DMC5524(AT)aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 00:41:02 EST
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Subject: [DML] Re: POLL: The average age of a DeLorean owner
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In a message dated 12/10/99 8:01:29 PM Central Standard Time, 
delorean(AT)usfamily.net writes:
<< I like the idea of a poll, BUT there are some members under 16, to tell you
 the truth I'm only 13.
 
 -Phil
 philf(AT)ssesco.com >>
Keep in mind that the question asked was:
The average age of a DeLorean OWNER
Not just a member of the list. You can always start a poll requesting the 
ages of the DML members if you desire.
Dave
VIN 5524
Age 22
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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 21:50:32 -0800
From: dmc5524(AT)aol.com
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Subject: [DML] POLL: What is your DeLorean used for?
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There has been a lot of comments lately about "daily drivers" and "these cars should be driven, not stored. So, what exactly do you use your DeLorean for? Please select the best choice.
----
Please select one of the following:
   o Daily Driver
   o Frequently Driven
   o Seldom Driven
   o Never Driven
by going to the following Web form:
   http://www.egroups.com/vote?id=944891432854&listname=dmcnews
Thank you!

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From: ROBLAMROCK(AT)aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 08:37:59 EST
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Subject: [DML] Re: gas flap
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In a message dated 12/11/1999 2:00:40 AM GMT Standard Time, 
tomcio(AT)gtemail.net writes:
> That is not all correct. My D is vin 6298 and it has a flat hood - no lines,
>  no gas flap! It is original from the factory.
>  Go figure.  
>  Tom Niemczewski
Are you the original first buyer of the car?  If so then your car may have 
been held up in the factory prior to shipping.  Many cars were held in the 
Export Vehicle Preparation section awaiting attention having failed final 
inspection and then subsequently were upgraded.   Secondly, if your car had a 
replacement hood at any stage after 1982 then it would have had the flat hood 
fitted.   The factory bulletins are by and large correct, but the way I 
figure it there are a lot of hybrids out there for a variety of reasons.
Robert Lamrock
Belfast  

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From: Altomarine(AT)aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 09:24:20 EST
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Subject: [DML] Re: Cleaning Corrosion
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Pencil eraser.
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Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 08:30:53 -0600
From: Robert Brandys <oehcs(AT)flash.net>
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This is one of the toughest techical problems I have faced in restoring
cars for over the last 30 years.  The best method is to sand blast the
connector.  But this can be messy.  Sometimes a little carbertor cleaner
or penetrating oil help.  
When I can't sand blast, I dip the connector in phosphoric acid metal
prep. Then rinse in water.  I am also experimenting with TARNEX now.
Dr. bob
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From: "" <d_nieves(AT)hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 06:41:51 PST
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Will contact cleaner work on electrical contacts that have a some corrosion 
(powderery greenish white stuff) or is filing that down the only solution?  
After getting this stuff off this there a coating that could be placed on 
the contacts that'll keep them clean and not interfere with continuity 
(kinda like putting pretroleum jelly on battery terminals? -I never tried it 
seems it would get the compartment messy?)
Thanks!
______________________________________________________
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From: NBeatson(AT)aol.com
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 10:36:24 EST
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Subject: [DML] Engine Bay Cover
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Hi,
After working on cleaning my engine bay yesterday, I was wondering if anyone 
had found a better way of holding open the engine bay cover, the original 
bracket is not the best, as the knock on the back of my head will contest to.
I thought it might be possible to fit a couple of gas struts (perhaps taken 
from a conventional hatchback) and would be interested to hear if anyone had 
tried this.
Nigel
Vin 2677
p.s. I took my car for its first drive out in public yesterday afternoon and 
I caused quite a stir when I stopped outside the bank ATM machine.
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