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Subject: [DML] Re: DML: Trim (To Paint or not to Paint)
Date: 1-May-99 2:03:24 +0000
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<372a228d.9b866ed-@dnrc.bell-labs.com> wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=298
> I like "Back to black". I think it is sold by Mothers Gold.
>
>
> raynet@home.net wrote:
> >
> > Ok possible dumb question coming so bear with me...
> >
> > As with any thing that sits out for a while in the sun, alot of the outer trim including mirrors, louvers, around the door locks, bumpers, and front windshield are faded. Now the question is how to get them looking like new. Armor All
> >
> I recomend that you use RustOleum paint on your trim, because it makes a completely waterproof seal around the parts. You will, of course, want to remove any trim peices you can before you paint them.
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Subject: [DML] window questions
Date: 1-May-99 1:40:45 -0400
Hey everyone, I have a few questions on my windows. First, the drivers side window does not move at all, not even the motor when I hit the switch. Occasionally it will briefly make a noise when I tap the switch, but that's it. That leads
My second question is about the rubber on the outside of the door that outlines the window and along the bottom of the glass. On my D it is slightly worn in some places. I'd like to replace it to give it that new look...what can I use to
Any suggestions/comments appreciated!
sam
5616
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Hey everyone, I have a few questions on my
windows. First, the drivers side window does not move at all, not even the
motor when I hit the switch. Occasionally it will briefly make a noise
when I tap the switch, but that's it. That leads me to think it's a wiring
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>My second question is about the rubber on
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glass. On my D it is slightly worn in some places. I'd like to
replace it to give it that new look...what can I use to replace that
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Subject: [DML] Delorean on ebay auction! Check it out.
Date: 1-May-99 6:42:00 +0000
Hi everyone!
Check out the link below.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=96073262
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Subject: [DML] Re: Arrest Warrant...
Date: 1-May-99 7:44:02 +0100
Hi John,
Not wishing to seem "Politically incorrect" but was this arrest warrant issued
in Ireland or Britain/N.Ireland. Surely it was only the Brits that got 'stung'
financially by the DeLorean saga? JZD can still go kiss the Blarney Stone if he
wants, surely?!
I recall as a kid at Limavady Grammar School (20ish years ago) in
History/Geography Class, how the N.Ireland Industrial policy had changed after
the DeLorean experiment ... Govt. Grants would from then on concentrate on
'local cottage industries' rather than big brash investments.
I later worked for the architect who had built the factory at Dunmurray. We put
forward proposals for Govt. to split it up into a number of smaller units.
Cheers, IAN
***********************
John Dore wrote:
> >Claude, you said:
> >Also did anybody realize John Z. Delorean cannot go back to Ireland
> > >because
> >there is a arrest warrant for him.
>
> Claude, its true there is a warrant for John DeLoreans arrest here in
> Ireland, but that does not mean he did anything wrong - all it means is that
> they think they have something on him and would like to ask him to explain
> it...again
>
> In the TV interview with him, produced by Robert Lamrock, John was asked by
> the interviewer why he thought there was a warrant for his arrest in
> Ireland. He explained that he has already been acquitted of this charge on 3
> separate occasions, and since he knows he did nothing wrong, he can't
> understand the arrest warrant. He also said he feels that there is no
> justice in Northern Ireland, and he pointed out what happened to the
> Bermingham 6 & Guilford 4 (people imprisoned and abused for crimes they did
> not commit). He has a point you know. Why should he come to Ireland, and
> risk spending years in jail for something he says (and I believe him) he did
> not do, when his time would be much better spent working on his new car?
>
> I think its a huge pity the way things turned out for him in Ireland, I'd
> love for him to visit me here sometime and I'd show him around, but
> unfortunately that isn't going to happen....but anyway just remember, he
> never did anything wrong, and imho he definately doesn't deserve that arrest
> warrant.
>
> anyway, thats what I think about the "arrest warrant" - ridiculous!
> I feel better having got that off my chest!
>
> Best Wishes,
> John Dore, Ireland.
> http://homepage.tinet.ie/~johndore
> "Johns Irish DeLorean Webpage!"
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Chrome Wheels
Date: 1-May-99 3:20:32 -0400
Dan,
Yes, you are correct, you can chrome plate aluminum.
You can even chrome plastic too, but do the finish last?
For this very reason, why many people don't suggest or use the process of
chrome plating aluminum. Longevity is the question!
I understand that this "chroming" process for aluminum is not stable for it
peels and pits faster then the surfaces that are anodized.
Heat and temperature changes will causes an electrolysis effect between the
chrome material and aluminum's surfaces -- it will be inevitable. Chroming
process requires a copper base for the chrome to start the process. One
reason why it cost so much. Second is the labor required to polish the plated
finish surface.
Aluminum as a material expands and contracts faster then the chrome surface.
Stress and heat also creates premature failure for the chrome plating. Thus
generating cracking and peeling.
Units that requires high tolerances and that are subjected to high stress are
anodized as a choice of finish.
Anodizing and does not change the balance of the unit. Chrome plating adds a
new skin to the unit's surface which will help for the wear and tear. For
example they chrome line cylinder's wall.
Durability and longevity is the question of realty.
I have seen failure in the area of chrome plating aluminum. Many people who
understand this problem will shunt the idea of chrome plating aluminum.
Unless they have UPDATED, IMPROVED or CHANGED upon this process -- forget
about it.
Many people feel this is not the right direction for the money to be
invested. The cost of the chrome plating aluminum process out weights the
cost and the durability of anodizing. I also personally think that chrome
items that are not "done right" looks gordy and tasteless.
Kayo Ong
#05508
Lic 9D NY
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Subject: [DML] Re: tight steering
Date: 1-May-99 8:54:45 +0000
Like Joe said it sounds like you have a problem with the column bushing at
the bulkhead. I manufacture replacement bushings made from tough Delrin
plastic for $10.95 plus postage ($3.00 should cover it to Scotland). They
also solve most squeaks.
Darryl Tinnerstet
Specialty Automotive
4 LaBelle Lane
McCleary, WA 98557
PH: 360-495-4640
FAX: 360-495-4680
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Subject: [DML] Painted DeLoreans website
Date: 1-May-99 5:41:41 -0400
Hi, everyone!
I've started the Painted DeLoreans website at:
http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm
Please stop by! Only a few people have submitted pics so
far, but they are good pics! Check out Dan's STUNNING black
and gold DeLorean!
If you've taken pictures of a painted DeLorean and would like
to see them on the site, please e-mail them to me, along with
a note granting me permission to post them. Let's make this
site a really good collection of "DeLoreans in Color!"
Thanks,
Brian Henderlong
DOA# 4977
VIN# working on it...
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Subject: [DML] Re: chrome wheels, Bricklins
Date: 1-May-99 9:52:22 +0000
So, Kayo, you can't chrome plate aluminum? That's going to come as a
surprise to the people out there who do that for a living. Sometimes I
really have to wonder about the stuff I read on here. Anyway, for what it
is worth, I have had both polished and yes chromed stock wheels on my
DeLoreans, and both are a huge improvement over the stock look. I have
chrome ones on my supercharged car, and prefer them because the upkeep is
zero. You just wash them and they look terrific. If anyone is interested I
can have them chrome plated, including painting between the spokes, for
about $189 each, plus shipping. The wheels must be in mint condition. I
also have a limited number of new wheels that can be chromed, for only $175
more.
As for Bricklins, I had for years wanted to own one just so I could compare
it to the DeLorean (and get pictures of the two, doors up, side-by-side in
my driveway). I finally got my chance - a few years ago I picked up a very
low mileage car for only $4,000. Another DeLorean owner and I were going to
go halves on it, but at the last minute he chickened out. It was a very
early car, ugly Suntan color, with the AMC drivetrain. It still had the
slow hydraulic doors and some significant damage to the top of the door
skins, but otherwise was quite nice. But it was like driving a Javelin. It
also felt like a thrown-together kit car, and it got many more comments than
the DeLorean ever did - only they were all negative. The one I loved was
that it "looked like a Saab eating an eight-track tape". Anyway, it was
probably the worst car I have ever owned, and after a long two months or so
I was able to persuade my formally reluctant "partner" to take it off my
hands. And in keeping with my often-repeated statement of having "never
lost money on a collector car" I sold it to him for exactly what I had
invested in it up til then - sales tax, license, repairs, etc., rounded up
to the next even dollar. That was the best profit I ever made, because it
was GONE.
Darryl Tinnerstet
McCleary, WA
PH: 360-495-4640
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Subject: [DML] Re: Arrest Warrant...
Date: 1-May-99 10:22:33 -0700
Hey Ian,
You're right, the warrant was issued in Britian/N. Ireland, but there is
extradition between Ireland & N. Ireland (wanted people can be arrested in
Ireland for crimes committed in England/N. Ireland, and vice versa, and then
transported and delivered to the people who want them), so no, I don't think
John could "kiss the blarney stone"! Unless of course the authorities in the
North didn't know he was in the south....
Best Wishes,
John Dore, Ireland.
>From: "Ian T. A. Foster" <ian@netvigator.com>
>Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com
>To: dmcnews@egroups.com
>Subject: [DML] Re: Arrest Warrant...
>Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 07:44:02 +0100
>
>Hi John,
>
>Not wishing to seem "Politically incorrect" but was this arrest warrant
>issued
>in Ireland or Britain/N.Ireland. Surely it was only the Brits that got
>'stung'
>financially by the DeLorean saga? JZD can still go kiss the Blarney Stone
>if he
>wants, surely?!
>
>I recall as a kid at Limavady Grammar School (20ish years ago) in
>History/Geography Class, how the N.Ireland Industrial policy had changed
>after
>the DeLorean experiment ... Govt. Grants would from then on concentrate on
>'local cottage industries' rather than big brash investments.
>
>I later worked for the architect who had built the factory at Dunmurray. We
>put
>forward proposals for Govt. to split it up into a number of smaller units.
>
>Cheers, IAN
>***********************
>
>John Dore wrote:
>
> > >Claude, you said:
> > >Also did anybody realize John Z. Delorean cannot go back to Ireland
> > > >because
> > >there is a arrest warrant for him.
> >
> > Claude, its true there is a warrant for John DeLoreans arrest here in
> > Ireland, but that does not mean he did anything wrong - all it means is
>that
> > they think they have something on him and would like to ask him to
>explain
> > it...again
> >
> > In the TV interview with him, produced by Robert Lamrock, John was asked
>by
> > the interviewer why he thought there was a warrant for his arrest in
> > Ireland. He explained that he has already been acquitted of this charge
>on 3
> > separate occasions, and since he knows he did nothing wrong, he can't
> > understand the arrest warrant. He also said he feels that there is no
> > justice in Northern Ireland, and he pointed out what happened to the
> > Bermingham 6 & Guilford 4 (people imprisoned and abused for crimes they
>did
> > not commit). He has a point you know. Why should he come to Ireland, and
> > risk spending years in jail for something he says (and I believe him) he
>did
> > not do, when his time would be much better spent working on his new car?
> >
> > I think its a huge pity the way things turned out for him in Ireland,
>I'd
> > love for him to visit me here sometime and I'd show him around, but
> > unfortunately that isn't going to happen....but anyway just remember, he
> > never did anything wrong, and imho he definately doesn't deserve that
>arrest
> > warrant.
> >
> > anyway, thats what I think about the "arrest warrant" - ridiculous!
> > I feel better having got that off my chest!
> >
> > Best Wishes,
> > John Dore, Ireland.
> > http://homepage.tinet.ie/~johndore
> > "Johns Irish DeLorean Webpage!"
> >
> > ______________________________________________________
> >
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Subject: [DML] JZD in Ireland
Date: 1-May-99 13:39:27 -0400
John I agree with you fully, furthermore as a citizen of both The Republic of
Ireland and the United States, in my opinion, the cure for the "troubles" in
the North is JOBS. JZD did it properly assuring a balance of Catholic and
Protestant workers and never had a problem at the plant. I believe the
British Gov't made a big mistake deciding not to support DMC Ireland. That
decision not only closed a potentially viable business, but sent the message
that new industry in the North is unwelcome and uninsurable. Just my 2 cents
worth!
Dennis "Mike" Drake
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Subject: [DML] No Subject
Date: 1-May-99 14:17:19 -0400
Neil,
If you have a company that can reliably re-fill struts for 1/10th the price, I bet you would have a lot of business from this list and other D owners! We all have used struts sitting around- and we all have spent hundreds if not thousands
David Levey
Cleveland, Ohio
The fact that the problem is worse in cold weather would emply that the problem is the strut as the gas is not expanding as much as it should in the coldweather and many years has reduced the level ( I had the same thing) I got new sruts f
Neil in Scotland
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Subject: [DML] Grey vinyl
Date: 1-May-99 20:08:34 +0000
Anyone know of a grey vinyl source to match the grey vinyl Delorean interior?
Thanks,
Bob Ensfield
6077
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Subject: [DML] Car Show
Date: 1-May-99 20:08:25 -0400
Entered my 81 in a car show in Winston-Salem today. very surprised to take
second place in Special Interest/Race Cars. I didn't have much time this
morning to prepare, took it to the car wash and Lexol'ed the seats, that was
about it. It got lots of attention and questions, and a lady with a
camcorder filmed it and said it would be on Forsyth County's public access
TV. The car that took first was a gorgeous blue 67 Shelby 427 Cobra, so I
was really shocked to even be in the same league!
This is the same show that my wife's Bricklin took second place two years
ago, so now both our gullwings are show winners:^)
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Subject: [DML] California
Date: 1-May-99 23:19:49 -0400
Is there anyone in California near Victorville? I will be out in California
(all the way from Ohio)in a couple of weeks (May 17-20) and wondered if
there was anyone in the area. I will be flying out, so I wont have #16584
with me. E-mail me privately if you are in the area and maybe we can get
together or chat one day.
Thanx,
Brian
#16584
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Subject: [DML] DOC Site Update
Date: 2-May-99 23:35:25 +0100
Dear All,
The DeLorean Owners Club UK website has just been updated to include shots
from this weekend's International Classic Motor Show at the Birmingham NEC.
I was only there for a couple of hours - thanks to the other hal! I wanted
to introduce Rachel to a DeLorean and that meant going to the show on her
terms. Still my revenge is that a couple of the new shots on the site are of
her modelling the car...
Anyway, new pics include the Euro-spec rear tail light cluster as seen on
the factory right-hand drive conversions. Also pictures of the ONLY
right-hand automatic ever to leave the factory. This is the car mentioned in
a post to the DML a while ago after a picture was found in a book. It also
has unique side indicators to replace the running lights.
Please check out the Club Gallery and Members Cars pages.
Best Wishes,
Martin
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Subject: [DML] my DeLorean at auction on Ebay.com
Date: 3-May-99 1:52:37 -0400
Dear List,
I just wanted to pass the information that I have decided to sell my
DeLorean on the online auction house Ebay.com, due to the fact that money
doesn't grow on trees and college is coming soon. I just added it to the
bidding block tonight so it won't be found in a delorean search until the
update their site, so I decided the best way for people who want to buy a
DeLorean was to send the URL to the people looking for a DeLorean now, so
they have a chance to get their bids on the car early.
The URL is:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=99215173
Thanks,
Nick
VIN#1852
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Subject: [DML] Re: Door Struts
Date: 2-May-99 23:04:03 -0700
The doors will tend to sag more in cold weather as they are gas charged they
follow the perfect gas law equation PV=nRT which predicts as temperature
decreases so does the pressure if volume is fixed. Although the usual
Delorean parts dealers are the easiest to get replacement struts with a
little research there are cheaper alternatives. If you are interested; you
may notice that the ends unscrew from the strut, this is important, save the
ends and measure the dimensions of the gas cylinder, industrial supply
companies such as McMaster-Carr in southern California can replace the
cylinder for considerably less than you will pay for the complete strut from
a parts house. I did this for my doors, engine louvers and hood. -Sweaty
Eddy
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Subject: [DML] Door Struts
> I have a sagging passenger door which seems to be more affected by cold
> weather. Two questions: How do I know this is the strut and not the
> adjustment, second, where is the best place to purchase door struts,
> preferably heavy duty cold weather types. I read of a supplier of
> similar struts but cannot find it in the archives. Thanks.
>
> Mike
> #2467
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Subject: [DML] DML: Answers to Window Questions
Date: 3-May-99 10:09:57 -0400
The Raven has power window problems:
> First, the drivers side window does not move at all, not even the
motor
> when I hit the switch. Occasionally it will briefly make a noise when
I
> tap the switch, but that's it. That leads me to think it's a wiring
problem
> somewhere.
This sounds like a classic window switch contact problem to me. Your
contacts are probably dirty or corroded.
> Also, the passenger side window motor moves but the window is free
> (Must be off the track).
So your passenger side must have a good switch. The first thing to try
is swapping the two switches. If this causes your driver's side window
to work then the your problem is with the contacts in the switch. Try
cleaning it (be very careful when snapping it open, don't lose any
parts!). If the contacts are really shot then you may need to find a
replacement switch.
And yes, your passenger side window is probably off of its tracks.
- Mike Substelny
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Date: 3-May-99 13:43:40 -0400
Darryl,
You are right! You can chrome aluminum.
You are a man with many experiences in this industry and you are highly
respected.
You do have may respect with the DeLorean marque.
I guess my reply on chroming aluminum material has not reached the DML site
that I sent several days ago to reply to another DMLer. The topic was on
chroming aluminum material. Again, chroming aluminum is still a process that
is not easy and not highly recommended for durability and longevity by the
chromers in the industry (I checked with my chromers, can they all be wrong?
I would like to know for my info.)
Yes, you are right, many people do make a living doing so. Many people do
many "other things" and sell it too, whether it is "right or wrong." The
people who do these services and may not or will not tell you all the
advantages and disadvantages to these processes. (I like to see the warrantee
program they offer with their services or products.)
On a debate of a same level, but on a different subject, it is like people
painting DeLorean motorcars. It can be done. People do it for a living too.
But let us look at the reality of painting stainless steel. The "process
and the effort" to do so is more demanding than the standard steel bodies.
But it has been done. With the "modern" formulated paints that is available
today, the painting of stainless steel, aluminum even flexible materials is a
reality that was an impossibility many years ago.
Many people painted their cars for the reasons they want "colors" to their
cars or they could not afford to change the damaged parts. Painting in this
case was their way out.
The world is moving very fast in the development of technologies and
research. Maybe they do have a "new" process or procedure in the chroming of
aluminum. If so, I would like to know of the company or person that can
teach or inform me of the process. Like painting of difficult materials is
now a reality, maybe chroming aluminum has come to age and the "old" standard
of chroming aluminum is a thing of the past? I was always like to learn and
know more.
Thanks for the update.
Kayo Ong
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> All exterior black -- front and rear bumpers, rocker sides panels, windows
> trim, front windshield trim, louvers, engine cover, left and right rear
> engine to window panel, front air scoop, rear exhaust skirt, rear license
> plate frame, tail light assemblies and the front grill. These areas will
> require about 8 to 12 hours and 8 to 10 cans of spray paint.
Krylon on the bumpers? Does that really work very well? It doesn't seem like a very flexable paint. Has anybody actually tried it, and had good results?
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Date: 3-May-99 16:51:14 -0400
snip----->On a debate of a same level, but on a different subject, it is like people
painting DeLorean motorcars. It can be done. People do it for a living too.
But let us look at the reality of painting stainless steel. The "process
and the effort" to do so is more demanding than the standard steel bodies.
But it has been done. With the "modern" formulated paints that is available
today, the painting of stainless steel, aluminum even flexible materials is a
reality that was an impossibility many years ago. <-----snip
Kayo,
My car was painted back in 1981 when it was brand new at the dealer. It has not flaked off at all. The paint is still sticking and would still be in perfect condition today if it was properly maintained. Unfortunately, it was left outside
By the way, my car wasn't painted because it was hit, it was painted this color scheme beacause of some famous or semi-famouse car racer back then who used those colors on his race cars. That's all I know. I would like to find out more, bu
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Date: 3-May-99 16:17:23 -0500
john yerskey/ bill winegard in Dallas,Tx . We are trying to organize a Southwest Delorean owners get-to-gether looking for any owners in tx,ok,la,nm,ar, that we can contact to try and have a meeting possible organize club ( centered in Dal
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<DIV><FONT size=2>john yerskey/ bill winegard in Dallas,Tx . We are trying
to organize a Southwest Delorean owners get-to-gether looking for any owners in
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club ( centered in Dallas.?) Stephen Wynne said he would love to see
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Subject: [DML] Re: chrome wheels, Bricklins
Date: 3-May-99 17:19:00 -0400
In a message dated 5/3/99 9:36:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
darryl@techline.com writes:
<<
As for Bricklins, I had for years wanted to own one just so I could compare
it to the DeLorean (and get pictures of the two, doors up, side-by-side in
my driveway). I finally got my chance - a few years ago I picked up a very
low mileage car for only $4,000. Another DeLorean owner and I were going to
go halves on it, but at the last minute he chickened out. It was a very
early car, ugly Suntan color, with the AMC drivetrain. It still had the
slow hydraulic doors and some significant damage to the top of the door
skins, but otherwise was quite nice. But it was like driving a Javelin. It
also felt like a thrown-together kit car, and it got many more comments than
the DeLorean ever did - only they were all negative. The one I loved was
that it "looked like a Saab eating an eight-track tape". Anyway, it was
probably the worst car I have ever owned, and after a long two months or so
I was able to persuade my formally reluctant "partner" to take it off my
hands. And in keeping with my often-repeated statement of having "never >>
On the Bricklin issue,I must say as in any car there are always lemons,and
you happened to get the lemon in the pack,there are also Deloreans that are
lemons,
I happen to own two Bricklins,and I love them as much as I like my
Deloreans,just because you had a bad experience with one Bricklin,don't make
it sound as if all Bricklins are cobbled together cars,you must remember,as
with any older sports
car it depends on how well the pervious owners abused or how well they took
care of the car,a friend of mine just bought a Porsche 928(
1979)(62,000miles)and the car looks and runs better than a new Porsche,I have
seen and driven abused Deloreans
and let me tell you,when a Delorean is abused and negeleted,it is no better
off than a abused Bricklin.Don't put down a perticular car unless you have
more than one experience and years(at least 5years)with ownership of that car
to qualify you to put down that perticular car.And I have had a minimum
ownership of both the Delorean and the Bricklin 18 years.
Claude
Bricklin Vin# 1024 /1136
Delorean 000570 / 05688
Vin# 06383 / 10554
Plus two others sold
plus two parts cars
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Subject: [DML] Car Show in Charleston, SC
Date: 3-May-99 17:25:29 -0400
The British Car Club of Charleston, South Carolina is having its annual Car
Show on June 5 at Charlestown Landing. I emailed the person in charge, and
they seemed very interested in having a DeLorean at the show. I just wanted
to let everyone know in case any of you wanted to go too.
Michael Carnell is the contact person at (843)-766-9226
Fax (843)-720-1277
Their web address is
www.palmettobug.com/bcc
Michael's email address is: bcc@palmettobug.com
I hope to see some of you there.
Brian
VIN 1597
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Subject: [DML] Re: No Subject
Date: 3-May-99 17:26:28 -0400
just how much are you all paying for struts over there?
neil in Scotland
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Date: 3-May-99 17:29:29 -0400
David ,
I will look the address out for you all this weekend and post it on the board
(it really was THAT cheap)
on another point has anyone got a new steering wheel going cheap?
regards
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Subject: [DML] Townsend TN show
Date: 3-May-99 17:35:05 -0400
A great thanks to the 4 other Delorean owners who made the show. We had 5 D's
and were given a class of our own. Sean H. (1st), Joe P. (2nd) and Scott M.
(3rd). It is always good to meet other owners and exchange a few stories. Bob
and Vicki Miller made the 6+ hour to attend. Thanks again to all those that
made it. See you again next year.
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Subject: [DML] Townsend show part 2
Date: 3-May-99 17:54:04 -0400
I was just sent a site link that has the photo of the 5 D's at the Townsend
show, if you are interested it is
<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Zoo/1987/townsend.html">Townsend
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Subject: [DML] Engine Vent Cover Hinge
Date: 3-May-99 19:56:22 -0400
I was wondering if anyone knows of the best fix for the following problem. I
have searched the back issues but not a found a related post. On the engine
vent cover there are two hinge brackets. There are two bolts on each bracket
that bolt to the engine vent cover. one of my bolts came off when I was
snugging up the nut. It looks like the bolt is actually only a threaded stud
tacked onto the hinge bracket. Has anyone had a similar problem where the
bolt has come off the bracket? If so I was wondering how they fixed it. I
was worried about tack welding it back on because there is such a small area
to work with and also I did not want to damage the finish on the hinge.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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Subject: [DML] Cimbria SS
Date: 3-May-99 21:11:57 -0400
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I was looking through an old issue (DEC'81) of Car and Driver that pitted
the DeLorean against 4 other cars... once done reading the headline story,
I flipped through the book and found a layout on the Cimbria SS, while
mostly a kit car similar to many others at that time (VW frame, fiberglass
body) this one had gullwing doors and a similar shape to the bricklin
while useing a rear engine design. I'm trying to get more info on this
car. If possible, I'd like to find one still on the road.
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Subject: [DML] Rear rims for trade/sale
Date: 3-May-99 21:22:02 -0400
I acquired a rear pair of original DeLorean rims. I am in need of a dashboard and binnacle replacement. I would be interested in a trade if someone is interested. If not, I might be interested in selling the pair so I could purchase a repla
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Subject: [DML] Painting a DeLorean
Date: 3-May-99 21:55:41 -0400
I am sorry, but As I search for "D" I would not consider buying a painted
Delorean. The Stainless Steel "Illusion" is exactly that - the car is
Stainless Steel. I guess I am a purist, but owners who take a sabre saw and
cut the dashboard to install some kickass stereo system should be executed !
I could live with the updates but I believe the true value of the DeLorean is
to keep it as stock as possible. Another editorial comment!
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Subject: [DML] Re: Painted DeLoreans...
Date: 3-May-99 23:38:15 -0400
In a message dated 5/3/99 6:36:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Jerry1@eclipse.net writes:
<< ttp://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm >>
Dan,
Two questions.
First, are the rims that are in pictures the original rims and the same as
the ones that are issued with all DeLoreans from the factory?
Second, what is that sticker or plate that is on front fenders just before
the doors?
It is hard to tell from the pictures on your web site.
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Subject: [DML] Blown Fuse, help!
Date: 3-May-99 22:41:27 -0500
I was driving the D lastnight and I noticed a funny smell. I took it
home and forgot about it. I took it out the next day and not a mile
down the way it died. I tried to start it but it wont stay running. It
will fire for a sec or two but when I hit the gas it dies. I opened the
fuse box behind the passenger seat and instantly remembered the funny
smell. There was a 20A glass fuse in a white holder that had melted.
The original fuse box has a melted fuse slot (w/o a fuse in it) on the
top middle row. Could this be a workaround for the melted fuse box
slot? I assume this is for the fuel pump? I havent had a chance to
replace the fuse yet but if I do I still want to know why it got so hot.
Any help?
Thank you,
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Subject: [DML] Re: DML: Trim (To Paint or not to Paint)
Date: 4-May-99 9:26:29 +0100
No! Wait!
DON'T use Back to Black! Unless you live in the land of permanent
sunshine! I put B2B on my D last Summer and it looked great...until it
rained. Every shower caused it to run down the side of the car (from
the plastic panels behind the windows). It took ages to get off and for
every time I got caught in rain there was a furious scrubbing session to
follow! Even now there's a faint mark where it's legacy lives...
Be Warned! Especially if you live in the UK!!
Rusk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc A Levy [SMTP:malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 10:37 PM
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: DML: Trim (To Paint or not to Paint)
>
> I like "Back to black". I think it is sold by Mothers Gold.
>
>
> raynet@home.net wrote:
> >
> > Ok possible dumb question coming so bear with me...
> >
> > As with any thing that sits out for a while in the sun, alot of the
> outer trim including mirrors, louvers, around the door locks, bumpers,
> and front windshield are faded. Now the question is how to get them
> looking like new. Armor All only does so much and rinses off in the
> rain. Is there something I can put on to restore them or should I
> just paint them... Ideas and suggestions are welcome...
> >
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I may have goofed up the product names.
The "Back to Black" product I think is used by some to make the tires
black again. This is NOT what I used. It kinda looks like black
paint. I did buy it, but never used it.
The product I did use is something I had laying around for a while. It
may have been "Black Chrome", or something like that. Recently, Mothers
Gold has a similar product they sell. I purchased it this weekend, but
have not tried it yet.
The product I used holds up well in the rain, and does not leave any
drips.
Russell Hughes wrote:
>
> No! Wait!
>
> DON'T use Back to Black! Unless you live in the land of permanent
> sunshine! I put B2B on my D last Summer and it looked great...until it
> rained. Every shower caused it to run down the side of the car (from
> the plastic panels behind the windows). It took ages to get off and for
> every time I got caught in rain there was a furious scrubbing session to
> follow! Even now there's a faint mark where it's legacy lives...
>
> Be Warned! Especially if you live in the UK!!
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Subject: [DML] Re: Painted DeLoreans...
Date: 4-May-99 10:49:01 -0400
Kayo,
They are the factory original rims. They are just painted. The sticker you are referring to is actually the "DMC" logo airbrushed on the fender. Also, it's not my website. It's Brian Henderlong's. He deserves the credit. It's a nice site.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Painted DeLoreans...
In a message dated 5/3/99 6:36:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Jerry1@eclipse.net writes:
<< ttp://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm >>
Dan,
Two questions.
First, are the rims that are in pictures the original rims and the same as
the ones that are issued with all DeLoreans from the factory?
Second, what is that sticker or plate that is on front fenders just before
the doors?
It is hard to tell from the pictures on your web site.
Kayo Ong
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Subject: [DML] Re: Door Struts
Date: 4-May-99 10:57:34 -0400
Michael,
Re-gassed struts will never perform as wall as new units.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: Door Struts
> Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 12:54 PM
>
> WHERE? I've got 4 struts that needs to be brought back to life, two door
> and two louver. (sp)
> Thanks!
> -=mike=-
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> On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 NELLYMAC1@aol.com wrote:
> > ... however afterwards I came
> > across an advert for a company that re fills the gas in them for around
a
> > tenth of the cost so try and look down that street first.
> >
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Subject: [DML] Re: Structural Question:
Date: 4-May-99 11:08:16 -0400
Steve,
The entire roof section is reinforced with steel, the factory refereed to
this as the "roof cage" or "spider".
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> Subject: [DML] Structural Question:
> Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 2:27 PM
>
> I am in the process of installing a windshield in my D when I took note
of
> just how thin the A pillar and windshield frame were and how little
support
> this part has. I was wondering if anyone knows if there's any metal
> reinforcement inside the fiberglass or is it just the 'glass? Just
curious.
>
> Steve
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Subject: [DML] Re: DML: Trim (To Paint or not to Paint)
Date: 4-May-99 11:11:42 -0400
Raymond,
Krylon semi-flat black spray paint will return all of those parts back to
there factory finish. The paint will also eliminate the need for constant
applications of Armor All type products.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: raynet@home.net
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> Subject: [DML] DML: Trim (To Paint or not to Paint)
> Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 5:34 PM
>
> Ok possible dumb question coming so bear with me...
>
> As with any thing that sits out for a while in the sun, alot of the outer
trim including mirrors, louvers, around the door locks, bumpers, and front
windshield are faded. Now the question is how to get them looking like
new. Armor All only does so much and rinses off in the rain. Is there
something I can put on to restore them or should I just paint them...
Ideas and suggestions are welcome...
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: AC Accumulator
Date: 4-May-99 11:30:25 -0400
Mike,
Check out a unit for an 84 corvette. We don't have any direct experience
with this unit but our crossover database indicates that it fits. I assume
that your VIN is prior to 3468.
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> From: cooney@pathway.net
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> Subject: [DML] AC Accumulator
> Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 2:40 PM
>
> I am looking for an old style AC accumulator. This being the one with
> the return hose at the bottom. Yes, I tried Houston and am contacting
> PG Grady as well. If you know of a source and perhaps a price, please
> let me know.
>
> Thanks,
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Cimbria SS
Date: 4-May-99 11:44:40 -0400
In-reply-to: <PINE>.LNX.3.95.990503210555.21674A-100000
On 04-May-99 Michel Poulin wrote:
> I was looking through an old issue (DEC'81) of Car and Driver that pitted
> the DeLorean against 4 other cars... once done reading the headline story,
> I flipped through the book and found a layout on the Cimbria SS, while
> mostly a kit car similar to many others at that time (VW frame, fiberglass
> body) this one had gullwing doors and a similar shape to the bricklin
> while useing a rear engine design. I'm trying to get more info on this
> car. If possible, I'd like to find one still on the road.
> -=mike=-
>
I looked at one of these while I was car shopping, before I
bought my DeLorean.It was built on a 1968 or 69 Porsche frame,
with a 1972 911 Porsche engine. The car was FAST, and handled
well, but the brakes were pretty bad. Whoever built it had used
drum brakes on all wheels, and on top of that I they needed some
work.
It had a very kit car feel to it. Since this is the only one I've
seen close up, I don't know how much of that was due to design
and how much to the workmanship of the builder. The seats and
armrests are basically cushions resting on the floor. There was a
separate switch for raising and lowering the headlights, and they
moved rather slow. The outside door handles are just recesses
into the fiberglass, with little metal pushbuttons to open the
doors.
The DeLorean is more finished, comfortable, has better visibility
(especially out the back), and of course has the stainless steel
body. The Cimbria has more wow factor in its performance (though
I don t know about the VW powered ones).
Basically, I think the DeLorean is more nice car, and the Cimbria
is more toy.
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Subject: [DML] Re: window questions
Date: 4-May-99 12:38:39 -0400
Sam,
Your driver side problem may be related to a bad window switch. Exchange
the switches and see what happens. If there is still no response than you
probably have a defective motor. There rarely are problems with the window
control wiring but to be sure you will have to go inside the door to be
sure there is proper connections to the motor.
All the factory specification window moldings and seals are available from
DeLorean parts suppliers.
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Subject: [DML] window questions
Date: Saturday, May 01, 1999 1:40 AM
Hey everyone, I have a few questions on my windows. First, the drivers
side window does not move at all, not even the motor when I hit the switch.
Occasionally it will briefly make a noise when I tap the switch, but
that's it. That leads me to think it's a wiring problem somewhere. Is
there a common problem with the windows? That might at least give me a
starting point. Also, the passenger side window motor moves but the window
is free (Must be off the track).
My second question is about the rubber on the outside of the door that
outlines the window and along the bottom of the glass. On my D it is
slightly worn in some places. I'd like to replace it to give it that new
look...what can I use to replace that with?
Any suggestions/comments appreciated!
sam
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Subject: [DML] Re: Car Show
Date: 4-May-99 12:44:26 -0400
yugoman,
Congratulations on your second place winning. Your experience bares out a
fact that owners should always enter there DeLorean's in car shows. We
have found that winning some type of an award is almost always a sure
thing.
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> Subject: [DML] Car Show
> Date: Saturday, May 01, 1999 8:08 PM
>
> Entered my 81 in a car show in Winston-Salem today. very surprised to
take
> second place in Special Interest/Race Cars. I didn't have much time this
> morning to prepare, took it to the car wash and Lexol'ed the seats, that
was
> about it. It got lots of attention and questions, and a lady with a
> camcorder filmed it and said it would be on Forsyth County's public
access
> TV. The car that took first was a gorgeous blue 67 Shelby 427 Cobra, so I
> was really shocked to even be in the same league!
> This is the same show that my wife's Bricklin took second place two years
> ago, so now both our gullwings are show winners:^)
>
>
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Subject: [DML] Re: Blown Fuse, help!
Date: 4-May-99 17:09:59 +0000
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> I was driving the D lastnight and I noticed a funny smell....There
was a 20A glass fuse in a white holder that had melted.
> The original fuse box has a melted fuse slot (w/o a fuse in it) on the
> top middle row. Could this be a workaround for the melted fuse box
> slot? I assume this is for the fuel pump? I havent had a chance to
> replace the fuse yet but if I do I still want to know why it got so hot.
> Any help?
Yes, the white fuseholder is someone's workaround for the melted fuse.
I believe this is the fuel pump fuse AND something else, my books are at
home. This brings up a common maintenance tip that is worth repeating.
It is a good idea to routinely take all of the fuses and relays out
(one at a time!!) and clean the sockets with a small burnishing tool,
and clean the fuse/relay contacts with emory cloth, or better yet just
replace the fuses - they're cheap. Depending on your climate, every year
or two should be plenty. Corrosion of the contacts causes high reistance,
which is why the fuse will heat up and melt but not blow. The current
is within ratings, but the high resistance heats everything up. I'm not
sure why but the top center fuse seems to always be the first to go. It
must be run at pretty close to 20 amps, where most fuses are more over-rated
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Subject: [DML] Re: Painting a DeLorean
Date: 4-May-99 13:10:03 -0400
For the most part, I agree with not painting and modifying a rare vehicle
like the Delorean, but there are other factors to be considered. Since the
production life of the D was so short, everyone recognized the collectability
early and relativey few were customized. We therefore were denied the
experience of seeing the true potential of the car at the hands of creative
and talented enthusiasts. Also I believe that the fact that the cars showed
no individuality (no options to really set their D apart from others),
something preferred by Americans in their automobiles, was a significant
factor in the low sales numbers. (Wasn't there a fender or something found
in the Delorean factory where they were testing paints? Hmmm. Sounds like
they knew it too.) I am in no way saying that everyone should run out and
paint their Delorean. If you're among the lucky ones to have a perfect body,
then count yourself lucky, take care of your car and preserve the history.
But for those who have purchased previously painted ones, or have some body
damage and dont want to or can't afford to replace the panels, go ahead and
express yourself! The guys with the perfect cars pretty much have their
hands tied, but you have a clean slate! In my opinion, the Delorean has a
tremendous amount of character on which to build. Be wild or be mild, but
please be tasteful. ( I think we've all seen at least one good example of
what happens when you strap everything from K-Mart's automotive department
onto a Delorean and it wasn't pretty.) So keep up the customizations and
modernizations!
Purist or Painter? There's room for us both!
And to the guy who started the painted Delorean site: Keep it up! I'll send
you photos when mine's ready!
(The D I'm building should hit the road next summer and it will be both
customized and modernized...tastefully.)
Steve
VIN 2650
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Subject: [DML] Re: Blown Fuse, help!
Date: 4-May-99 13:41:14 -0400
Brad,
The owners manual has a diagram of the fuses. You need to identify what that
melted fuse is first. Then you can better diagnose your problem.
Brian
VIN 1597
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Subject: [DML] Re: Engine Vent Cover Hinge
Date: 4-May-99 14:16:49 -0400
Gary,
This is not totally uncommon, we have seen it happen before. The easiest
fix is to drill out the existing stud and replace it with a nut and bolt.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> Subject: [DML] Engine Vent Cover Hinge
> Date: Monday, May 03, 1999 7:56 PM
>
> I was wondering if anyone knows of the best fix for the following
problem. I
> have searched the back issues but not a found a related post. On the
engine
> vent cover there are two hinge brackets. There are two bolts on each
bracket
> that bolt to the engine vent cover. one of my bolts came off when I was
> snugging up the nut. It looks like the bolt is actually only a threaded
stud
> tacked onto the hinge bracket. Has anyone had a similar problem where
the
> bolt has come off the bracket? If so I was wondering how they fixed it.
I
> was worried about tack welding it back on because there is such a small
area
> to work with and also I did not want to damage the finish on the hinge.
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>
> Gary
> VIN 3360
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Subject: [DML] Re: Blown Fuse, help!
Date: 4-May-99 14:42:20 -0400
Brad,
Good detective work ! The fuel pump fuse melt down is a common problem
which is corrected with a by-pass "in line fuse". The problem is that this
circuit carries high current and requires a heavy duty fuse holder, many
owners and repair shops have used a standard holder. The fix is easy. Go to
your local Radio Shack or auto parts store and purchase a "heavy duty" in
line fuse holder. When installing the new unit be sure that your
connections are tight and secure.
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> Subject: [DML] Blown Fuse, help!
> Date: Monday, May 03, 1999 11:41 PM
>
> I was driving the D lastnight and I noticed a funny smell. I took it
> home and forgot about it. I took it out the next day and not a mile
> down the way it died. I tried to start it but it wont stay running. It
> will fire for a sec or two but when I hit the gas it dies. I opened the
> fuse box behind the passenger seat and instantly remembered the funny
> smell. There was a 20A glass fuse in a white holder that had melted.
> The original fuse box has a melted fuse slot (w/o a fuse in it) on the
> top middle row. Could this be a workaround for the melted fuse box
> slot? I assume this is for the fuel pump? I havent had a chance to
> replace the fuse yet but if I do I still want to know why it got so hot.
> Any help?
>
> Thank you,
> Brad.
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Subject: [DML] Re: Painted DeLoreans...
Date: 4-May-99 15:46:23 -0400
Dan,
Thanks for the reply. It is difficult to see the details on the web site.
Since your car came from factory as new and painted, then without doubt it is
officially a factory authorized painted DeLorean. This would make it as an
"acceptable" painted car by everyone that are involved with the DeLorean
marque. No contest at all.
Incidentally, yes, I know that they had paints back in the 1980s and even
earlier. These paints can adhere to stainless steel and aluminum, fiberglass
and etc. One of these paints used in the early 80s was from DuPont. It was
called Imron. It is an epoxy two, if not three part paint. I myself, like
many others, we don't like the "finish" or its characteristic or its working
properties. Its finish was not as good as the regular paints available. We
avoid recommending it back then. Under desperate conditions and demands, we
used it. It was okay It did what it was formulated to do, to "Stick or
Adhere" to difficult materials with avoidance to premature fading, cracking,
flaking and peeling under adverse conditions. The majority of this epoxy
paint is used on aircrafts, to adhere to the aircraft's aluminum surfaces.
The next time you board a commercial airliner, look at the paint that is on
the aircraft. Do you like the finish????????? Imron is also used within the
automotive and the boating industry. If a car's surface is poorly "prep" or
the wrong or poor quality painted is used.........I would like to see the
results as time passes. If the car "sits" in a "closed or controlled
environment" then one needs not worry about these adverse conditions or the
effects.
If the car is on the road as a daily driven car.......be concerned about
these facts.
I know the DMC would take the ultra care, the "correct" procedures and the
best materials to assure the highest quality that can be obtained when they
produce a painted car. If they had If they couldn't do it, then no other
non-equipped facility can! Remember their name and reputation now resides
with the car. If I know how some of these car companies operates. They
would invest more time and money to get it "right," even at a financial lost
(they would most likely charge the customer-owner anyway).
Many DMLer have been talking about getting their cars painted. Has anyone
check the "cost" and the "time" involved in painting a DeLorean or any
stainless steel or "all" aluminum body motor car? Hint: If the cost or
estimate is lower then painting a standard steel motorcar, continue
searching. If they boast about their great work, ask for some finished
motorcars that they can give reference to. I know they have improved the
paint, but the workmanship and their "know how" is still in question. Ask
about their quality assurance -- their warrantee against workmanship and
against premature material failures. Unless you want to waiver your rights
and overlook the warrantee. For the money to be spent???
Dan, in either case your factory painted DeLorean as with several others out
there, should be valued higher, when it comes to a collector's car. It is
the same, but different. Enjoy it.
Kayo Ong
#05508
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Subject: [DML] Special price: Yokohama AVS tires...
Date: 4-May-99 16:45:06 -0400
I've seen some interest in the Yokohama AVS tires in here. So, I contacted a friend of mine who said he'd offer these tires (all 4) that fit the DeLorean stock rims for $525. I understand that this is a lower cost than most places. If it is
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Subject: [DML] Special price: Yokohama AVS tires...
Date: 4-May-99 16:45:06 -0400
I've seen some interest in the Yokohama AVS tires in here. So, I contacted a friend of mine who said he'd offer these tires (all 4) that fit the DeLorean stock rims for $525. I understand that this is a lower cost than most places. If it is
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Subject: [DML] Special price: Yokohama AVS tires...
Date: 4-May-99 16:45:06 -0400
I've seen some interest in the Yokohama AVS tires in here. So, I contacted a friend of mine who said he'd offer these tires (all 4) that fit the DeLorean stock rims for $525. I understand that this is a lower cost than most places. If it is
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