DeLorean Mailing List - 5/7/1999

-----------------------------------------------------------------
173. NELLYMAC1@aol.com         [DML] Re: loose steering
174. Paraversal@aol.com        [DML] Lo-Jack
175. Mike Cutting              [DML] Re: dmcnews digest
176. DMC Joe                   [DML] Re: prototype spotted
177. William T Wilson          [DML] Radio inputs
178. DMC Joe                   [DML] Re: spec.'s
179. DMC Joe                   [DML] Re: Interesting Clutch Problem
180. NELLYMAC1@aol.com         [DML] owner
181. DMC Joe                   [DML] Re: CLUTCH JOB
182. R. Starling               [DML] Re: Door Glass Alignment
183. Michel Poulin             [DML] Re: Long Trips
184. Ronald  Pohala            [DML] Re: Radio inputs
185. raynet@home.net           [DML] Re: Radio inputs
186. DJRaich@aol.com           [DML] Re: Lo-Jack
187. Marc A Levy               [DML] Re: Radio inputs
188. Brian Henderlong          [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC
189. Lee                       [DML] Re: Interesting Clutch Problem
190. Lee                       [DML] Re: DMC Bulletin Board
191. dtaylor2@neo.rr.com       [DML] Jan. 1st
192. William T Wilson          [DML] Re: Jan. 1st
193. Sean Jones                [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC
194. Brian Metz                [DML] Re: Radio inputs
196. (no author)               [DML] No Subject
197. (no author)               [DML] No Subject
198. Donald - SA Intern        [DML] delorean on M2
199. Brian Metz                [DML] Re: Jan. 1st
201. (no author)               [DML] No Subject
202. Brian Henderlong          [DML] custom DeLorean pic
203. Dave Price                [DML] Re: Radio inputs
204. Frank Lommen              [DML] No Subject
205. Brian Henderlong          [DML] Raffled DMC
206. Martin Gutkowski          [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC
207. Michel Poulin             [DML] Re: Raffled DMC
208. Joe Capasso               [DML] Re: Raffled DMC
209. Jimbo0946@aol.com         [DML] Re: Radio inputs
210. David Sontos              [DML] Re: Long Trips
211. NELLYMAC1@aol.com         [DML] Re: Radio inputs
212. Michel Poulin             [DML] Re: Raffled DMC
213. (no author)               [DML] No Subject
214. (no author)               [DML] No Subject
215. (no author)               [DML] No Subject
216. (no author)               [DML] No Subject
217. (no author)               [DML] No Subject
218. (no author)               [DML] No Subject
219. sundiver@discordia.org    [DML] Re: Jan. 1st
220. Josh Haldeman             [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC
221. DMC Joe                   [DML] Re: Raffled DMC
222. DMC Joe                   [DML] Re: loose steering
223. DMC Joe                   [DML] Re: Lo-Jack
224. DMC Joe                   [DML] Re: Long Trips
225. MCCOMBC@dteenergy.com     [DML] Prototype
226. DMC Joe                   [DML] Re: Interesting Clutch Problem
227. Paraversal@aol.com        [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC
-----------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------ message 173 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=173
From: NELLYMAC1@aol.com
Subject: [DML] Re: loose steering
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:31:54 EDT
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have the exact opposite ! my steering is really tight and a squeaking noise 
is louder than the stereo will go! If I point the car round a tight corner I 
can take my hands of the wheel ,lay down and have a nice cup of tea, forty 
winks ,read a book and the car still keeps the same track ( a real party 
trick to scare them all ) I know there is a problem but I,m sure its just the 
bush where the colum goes through the bulk head 
Does anyone know a fix as to be honest the last time I went to tackle the 
problem I spent a few hours without getting the steering wheel off !!
help would be helpful!
Neil in Scotland 
VIN#2119
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------ message 174 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=174
From: Paraversal@aol.com
Subject: [DML] Lo-Jack
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:51:19 EDT
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I was just wondering if any owners out there have had the Lo-Jack vehicle 
recovery system installed in their DeLorean, and what the real benefits of 
the system are. For those of you who are unfamiliar with Lo-Jack, it is NOT 
an alarm system, but more of a homing device that the police use to track 
stolen cars. If your car is stolen with a Lo-Jack system on board, they will 
track it and the police will retrieve it. Now honestly I do not like to 
change my DeLorean in the slightest. I really wouldn't want many changes made 
to the car. Does anyone out there have this installed on their DeLorean? What 
do you think of it.
Thanks,
Curious Justin
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------ message 175 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=175
From: "Mike Cutting" <mcutting@ntl.sympatico.ca>
Subject: [DML] Re: dmcnews digest
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:21:04 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
References: <199904251229.IAA03733@ns1.nt.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
hi...
i am in the process of purchasing an 82, 5 spd.  i will have to float a loan
for a good portion of the price, and i figured that it would probably be
easier to get some financing (because of the cars age..) if i had an
apprasial..  can anyone in the toronto area suggest a reputable apprasier?
i would also appreciate it if someone could let me know of a company that
appreciates the value of these cars, and is readily willing to finance
them..  i can forsee the age of the car being a problem for my bank.
thanks..
:)
<=-mike-=>

------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------ message 176 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=176
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: prototype spotted
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:42:54 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
James,
Sounds like you have a rare find, the sliding windows is the giveaway. See
if you can get the VIN. Keep us posted.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>

----------
> From: WtrResQ@aol.com
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] prototype spotted
> Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 7:31 AM
> 
> i was driving around at work, in San Jose California, when a friend told
me 
> that there was a Delorean in a driveway near his house.  i went to check
it 
> out and sure enuff, there it was.  it had a Calif. license plate on 
> it(PROTO1) although it obviously had not ben registered in years.  it was
> covered in dust and had 4 flat tires.  i noticed that it didnt have the
black 
> window louvers on the back and had sliding side windows on the doors.  i 
> knocked on the door and the "lady of the house" told me that her husband
had 
> purchased it at auction when J. Delorean was going though his "legal 
> problems".  she told me that it had less that 180 miles of "test track
only 
> miles", and that hubby had paid $37K for the car.  i had to take off and 
> hubby wasnt home, so i left my card for him to call me.  ill fill you all
in 
> as soon as i get more info.
> 
> happy driving,
> james- STAINLS
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
> Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com
> 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------ message 177 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=177
From: William T Wilson <fluffy@snurgle.org>
Subject: [DML] Radio inputs
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 03:26:45 -0400 (EDT)
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
In-Reply-To: <199904240251.WAA08785@lumberjack.snurgle.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Do either the Craig or the ASI radios have an auxiliary-in jack on them
(for connecting an external CD player, for example)? If not, would anyone
have a recommendation for a replacement stereo that might include such a
thing?  A tape player would be preferable to a CD player.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------ message 178 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=178
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: spec.'s
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:37:34 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Michel,
DO NOT ADVANCE THE TIMING! The DeLorean ignition system is extremely stable
and will never drift. We have found most cars never need adjustments from
their factory settings. If the engine is running rough the problem will be
related to items other than timing unless someone has tampered with it. The
timing should be set to 13 degrees BTDC + or - 2 degrees. A rough running
cold engine is usually caused by a malfunction of the "warm up circuit" or
"fuel enrichment circuit".
Concerning the outer drive shaft to hub carrier torque the factory spec is
270 lb. ft.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
----------
> From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] spec.s
> Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 8:58 PM
> 
> My friend and I are going to be doing a little work tomorrow on the D.
One
> of his rear wheels had come loose and he snuged it up.. How much torque
> should the wheel bearings have?
>  Also, The engine is running rough untill it warms up. I know on my merc
I
> had to move the timeing up to correct for this. Should the D be the same?
> and if so, what is a safe amount to move it up?
>  -=mike=-
> 
> *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*
> | http://www.poulincomm.com   |
> | http://www.WWJP.com         |
> *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> SPRING IS HERE - Wilson Sporting Goods!  Jet Evolution Basketballs,
> NFL Autograph Football, Conform Pitcher, Outfielder Glove.  Full
> Selection of golf clubs, skates, water sports, team sports equipment!
> http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/147
> 
> eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
> http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications
> 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------ message 179 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=179
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Interesting Clutch Problem
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:15:15 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Marc & Lee,
Shortly after the DeLorean hit the streets the infamous "plastic clutch
line" problems started popping up all over the country. In an effort to
correct the problem an adjustable clutch pedal link was manufactured and
supplied to dealers for replacement. (Service Bulletin No. ST-07-9/82). The
problem was that in order to compensate for the loss of pedal action the
link could be easily over adjusted this caused the master cylinder plunger
to travel too far in the bore causing premature failure of the master
cylinder. The adjustable link should only be considered as temporary,
replacing the factory plastic line with the stainless braided is the only
way to go.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
----------
> From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: Interesting Clutch Problem
> Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 9:15 PM
> 
> Some of us have a after market adjustable clutch link..... This may be
> what was adjusted.
> 
> 
> Lee wrote:
> 
> >  I sure would like to know what all these people are adjusting and why
it
> >  only last for two weeks?
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
> Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com
> 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------ message 180 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=180
From: NELLYMAC1@aol.com
Subject: [DML] owner
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:41:33 EDT
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi 
I ahve had my D  for a couple of years and am looking for some info on its 
history ,it was sold to a G Mohi in LA in 1981 and was sold it seems by DMC 
.Does anyone know if this was a DMC only dealer or if the garage is still 
there and selling another brand ? Is there a G Mohi in a Delorean club or has 
anyone heard of him ?
I have his address from  81 but dont want to pester him 
any help?
 Cheers from Scotland 
Neil 
2119
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------ message 181 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=181
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: CLUTCH JOB
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:19:07 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Lance,
Not to diminish your fine work at bleeding the clutch but I wanted to reply
to your statement that "As you would be aware, the job would be impossible
to accomplish unless the car is raised off the ground." We bleed the slave
cylinder without ever getting under the car. The whole process takes us
less than five minutes. Of course it does help that we do this all the
time.
I guess it has to do with how many ways to "skin a cat". Thanks for your
input.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
  
----------
From: Lance R Haslewood <lanceh@zeta.org.au>
To: dmcnews@egroups.com
Subject: [DML] Re: CLUTCH JOB
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 7:36 PM
Lee,
Recently I had to replace the clutch becuse the plate disintergrated.
While I had the clutch out, I decided to have the clutch slave cylinder
re-sleeved because it had a slight weep.  It also had some corrosion
inside. I found bleeding the line and cylinder was not  too difficult a
job, just a bit fiddly.  If I recall, a 5/32" ring/open-end spanner fitted
neatly over the bleed valve (ring end).  With this in place, I fitted a
length of clear plastic tube over the end of the valve and placed the other
end into a jar.  I used about 4' of tubing.  Enough to reach from the slave
cylinder to the ground and with a bit to spare.  With my son working the
cluch pedal, I successfully bled the system.  In fact, I completely changed
the oil with new.  I have a good strong pedal and the clutch works great.
As you would be aware, the job would be impossible to accomplish unless the
car is raised off the ground.  I had my 'D' on axle stands.  Also if you
lay on a creeper, this will give you more mobility whilst under the car and
make the job a little easier for you.  For illumination, I used a 240v
trouble light which I managed to wedge up beside the bell housing.
I don't mean to be telling you how to suck eggs, but the bleeding process
is quite simple.  With the bleed valve closed, have somebody slowly pump
the pedal a few times, and with the pedal held in, release the bleed valve.
 Make sure the person working the pedal does not release the pedal while
you have the valve open.  Keep repeating this process until all air is
removed from the system and a good flow of fluid extrudes.  During the
process, you will notice clutch beginning to operate and the pedal becoming
load bearing.
Lance
At 02:56  23/04/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi to all our DML members,
>
>It's been a while sense my last post.
>
>My D has been laid up for the last couple of months with a broken clutch
(5)
>speed. I lost all pedal just as I got home, and ended up pushing it up the
>drive-way 
>and into the hanger.
>
>After checking the fluid level and finding it empty! and finding a stained
>driver
>side carpet indicating that the clutch master cylinder was probably the
>problem,
>I ordered one from PJ Grady. It took quite a while to get around to
>starting the
>repair because I thought it was going to be difficult and time consuming.
>
>It turned out that even with needing a second person to hold a Phillips to
>remove
>the two nuts, the whole remove and replace job took an hour. All that is
>left is
>the bleeding,
>
>The original unit look fine, although on the dirty side. I found some
>indication of
>wetness around the plunger but not the dripping I expected. When I opened
the
>seal end which on the original has a metal band holding the seal in place
I
>discovered
>a rusty nasty wet mess. Removing the plunger requires the removing of a
>snap  ring.
>Once cleaned up the plunger is installed in the new master cylinder, which
>comes with a new snap ring. Installing the new master cylinder is easy
>enough, as is the connecting of the
>fluid fill hose and the hydraulic line back to the slave cylinder.
>
>Every time something breaks I get the feeling that the problem will never
>be fixed, and every time I dive in I find that I enjoy working on my D,
Now
>all that's left is to bleed the lines.
>
>Well the bleeding is done and the clutch works!
>
>Now a question?
>
>Any one who has ever had to bleed the clutch line knows what a bitch it is
>just to reach
>and what a mess it makes, especially when a master cylinder is replaced
and
>you are faced with bleeding most of the line contents to get all the air
out.
>
>I have come up with a single tool that will do the following:
>
>1. loosen the bleeder screw with out removing the Engine CVR or even
>reaching behind the engine.
>
>2. collects all the Dot-4 as it is bled (spl?) off and puts in a container
>and not the bell housing or floor.
>
>3. loosens and tightens the bleed screw during the bleeding cycle, again
>with out requiring reaching down behind the engine and is used to tighten
>screw when bleeding is complete.
>
>If you are interested in such an item please let me know via direct e-mail
>using reply! just say "me too"
>
>TTFN
>
>Lee
>
> 
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
>Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com
> 
Lance  Haslewood (Squadron Leader RAAFRSG)
45 Fullerton Crescent
BLIGH PARK  New South Wales  Australia  2756
Ph: 61 2 4572 5281 (Home)
Fax: 61 2 4572 5414 (Home)
Cell: 0414 295 888
e-mail: lanceh@zeta.org.au
Web Page:  www.zeta.oeg.au/~lanceh/
Ph: 61 2 9840 8409 (Work)
Fax: 61 2 9840 8414 (Work) 




------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com
----------
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------ message 182 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=182
From: "R. Starling" <doctor280@email.msn.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: Door Glass Alignment
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:09:12 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The $5.00 side window repair details are now listed on my web sight.
http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/stainlesssteel/index.html
Keep The Dream Alive And Be Safe,
Robert Starling
Vin#5252


------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------ message 183 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=183
From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: Long Trips
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:55:53 -0400 (EDT)
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990424232239.0095ba30@207.95.192.54>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Lee wrote:
>  And given all this the DMC loves a
> winding two lane black to in the rolling hill. I don't know about others
> who own DMC's but mine handles great on both open freeway and the winding
> coast roads of California.
> 
> Lee
> 
 Over the weekend my friend and I put 300 miles on the D. It was a mix of
city and highway. The D much prefers the highway as aposed to stop and go.
  The water temp would shoot up to 220 in a matter of minuts when we
started goingfrom stop light to stop light.  Once we got moving again, the
temp would drop below 150 quickly. By design, it's just not ment to sit
idel.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------ message 184 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=184
From: "Ronald  Pohala" <rpohala@luzerne.edu>
Subject: [DML] Re: Radio inputs
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:11:42 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I also would like to put a high level CD player in WHich one would fit with
minimum damage in case  I ever wanted to go back to original. Hell I want
good sounds and all my  music is on CD now soon will be DVD.
Ron
William T Wilson wrote:
> Do either the Craig or the ASI radios have an auxiliary-in jack on them
> (for connecting an external CD player, for example)? If not, would anyone
> have a recommendation for a replacement stereo that might include such a
> thing?  A tape player would be preferable to a CD player.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Show mom you love her.  Check out our great Mother's Day Gifts!
> 14K Gold and gemstone jewelry, leather and cloth wallets and purses,
> gardening, gourmet, kitchen, more! Free Shipping in the US!
> http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/142
>
> eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
> http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications


------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------ message 185 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=185
From: raynet@home.net
Subject: [DML] Re: Radio inputs
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org>
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain
Subject: Re:  [DML] Radio inputs
X-Mailer: www.eGroups.com Message Poster
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <pid11991.1999.April.26.11:23.191578.@egroups.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:23:55 -0000
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org>
From: raynet@home.net
To: dmcnews@egroups.com
 <SNIP> Do either the Craig or the ASI radios have an auxiliary-in jack on them <SNIP>
As far as I know neither of them had an input.  I do know that Alpine and JVC have units that have inputs and controls right on the tape player to control a CD Changer.  Usually they will only work with their respective brands of CD Changers
Raymond McKay
Network Administrator
Funnybone Interactive

------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 186 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=186
From: DJRaich@aol.com
Subject: [DML] Re: Lo-Jack
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:35:49 EDT
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have Lo-Jac in a leased car. Haven't figured out yet why I did it except my 
insurance carrier reduced my premium relating to the value of the car by 10%. 
As the car has never been stolen, I have no idea how well it works, however, 
LAPD did make a big haul on cars stolen and being shipped out of the country 
in freight containers about a year or so ago. Located a couple of the cars by 
Lo Jac and found the rest of the stolen cars at the Los Angeles harbor.  I 
don't think the cost ($450 negotiable) is necessarily worth installation in 
the Delorean as insurance would cover the loss and they seem to be readily 
available to be purchased for the foreseeable future. Just a thot. 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 187 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=187
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: Radio inputs
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:17:28 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Kenwood makes a unit that fits in the stock location, and will control
their CD changer units.  Model: KRC-3006, sells for $179.95 in most
places.
William T Wilson wrote:
> 
>  Do either the Craig or the ASI radios have an auxiliary-in jack on them
>  (for connecting an external CD player, for example)? If not, would anyone
>  have a recommendation for a replacement stereo that might include such a
>  thing?  A tape player would be preferable to a CD player.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 188 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=188
From: Brian Henderlong <bhenderlong@mindspring.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:57:10 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
In-Reply-To: <3724903E.73807841@luzerne.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Anyone hear anything further about the DeLorean that was turned over by the
rioting college students?  Has anyone heard from the owner?
I'm curious to know what kind of service his/her insurance company is
giving, whether there are any more pictures online, and whether any civil
or criminal suits have been filed.
Just wondering,
Brian Henderlong
mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com
VIN#: working on it...
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 189 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=189
From: Lee <lseiler@radiance.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: Interesting Clutch Problem
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:52:38 -0700
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
In-Reply-To: <19990426052514.DICN2244@494154526worldnet.att.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
At 01:15 AM 4/26/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Marc & Lee,
>Shortly after the DeLorean hit the streets the infamous "plastic clutch
>line" problems started popping up all over the country. In an effort to
>correct the problem an adjustable clutch pedal link was manufactured and
>supplied to dealers for replacement. (Service Bulletin No. ST-07-9/82). The
>problem was that in order to compensate for the loss of pedal action the
>link could be easily over adjusted this caused the master cylinder plunger
>to travel too far in the bore causing premature failure of the master
>cylinder. The adjustable link should only be considered as temporary,
>replacing the factory plastic line with the stainless braided is the only
>way to go.
reply:
Joe,
	So if I understand what you are saying, that some D's may have this
adjustable part and this part can be over adjusted to compensate for loss
of pedel which will cause the master cylinder to fail.
	Also that the stainless line is the correct and permanent fix for both?
	I replaced my plastic line a while back so I expect the new master
cylinder to last
for a while. I also note that some owners report no problems in spite of
the plastic line.
Lee

Lee
81DMC-12
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 190 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=190
From: Lee <lseiler@radiance.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: DMC Bulletin Board
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:02:58 -0700
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
In-Reply-To: <001c01be8f52$e2d5b860$2d990cd1@scott>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
At 02:29 PM 4/25/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Lee, Glad to hear that you are feeling better.
>
>For the benefit of those of us who keep messing up there PC's, would you
>post the address for the DMC Bulletin Board/
>
reply:

	Sure Scott!    
	http://www.totalimmersion.com/dmcboard/index.html
	I will also post the URL's for the up coming pictures and sample calendars
	once they are actually up.
	Lee
Lee
81DMC-12
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 191 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=191
From: dtaylor2@neo.rr.com
Subject: [DML] Jan. 1st
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain
Subject: Jan. 1st
X-Mailer: www.eGroups.com Message Poster
MIME-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <pid24914.1999.April.26.11:14.641335.@egroups.com>
Content-Type: text/plain
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:14:28 -0000
In-Reply-To: 
From: dtaylor2@neo.rr.com
To: dmcnews@egroups.com
I wanted to know if anyone knows if Y2K will affect the onboard computer in the "D"
        Thanks...Donnie
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 192 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=192
From: William T Wilson <fluffy@snurgle.org>
Subject: [DML] Re: Jan. 1st
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:46:33 -0400 (EDT)
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
In-Reply-To: <199904261926.PAA17211@lumberjack.snurgle.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 dtaylor2@neo.rr.com wrote:
> I wanted to know if anyone knows if Y2K will affect the onboard
> computer in the "D"
I'll go out on a limb here and say that Y2K will affect the onboard
computer in no or virtually no cars.  We had a discussion about this a
while back and it seems the criteria for a Y2K problem are:
Clock must be installed in system;
System must care about clock output;
Clock must be set to valid date.
I don't know whether the DMC-12 computer contains any clocks or not, but
if it does, you can reset them to 1981 by disconnecting the battery. :}
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 193 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=193
From: Sean Jones <shain@noln.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:24:03 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org> <3.0.1.32.19990426135710.006c311c@pop.mindspring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello,
I never saw the first set of pictures.  When i first went to it it was up yet.
Then I lost the url.  Can someone please repost it?  Thanks.
- Shain
Brian Henderlong wrote:
> Anyone hear anything further about the DeLorean that was turned over by the
> rioting college students?  Has anyone heard from the owner?
>
> I'm curious to know what kind of service his/her insurance company is
> giving, whether there are any more pictures online, and whether any civil
> or criminal suits have been filed.
>
> Just wondering,
>
> Brian Henderlong
> mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com
> VIN#: working on it...
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
> Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com


------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 194 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=194
From: Brian Metz <metz.50@osu.edu>
Subject: [DML] Re: Radio inputs
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:48:54 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org
 >
References: <199904240251.WAA08785@lumberjack.snurgle.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 >Do either the Craig or the ASI radios have an auxiliary-in jack on them
>(for connecting an external CD player, for example)? 
YOU CAN PURCHASE A CD CHANGER WITH AN FM MODULATOR IN IT.  THIS IS WHAT I
PLAN ON DOING FOR MY D IN A FEW MONTHS.  A CHANGER WITH A MODULATOR WILL
WORK WITH ANY STEREO THAT USES AN ANTENNA (HENCE EVERY CAR STEREO).  IT
PLUGS INTO THE ANTENNA JACK AND THEN THE ANTENNA PLUGS INTO IT.  THEREFORE,
YOU CAN STILL HAVE YOUR AM'FM RADIO - CASSETTE PLAYER  (ORIGINAL) AND A CD
PLAYER/CHANGER!!!
BRIAN
16584
BY THE WAY THESE ARE VERY POPULAR AND CAN BE PURCHASED FOR AS LOW AS $150.00
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 196 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=196
Subject: [DML] No Subject
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 197 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=197
Subject: [DML] No Subject
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 198 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=198
From: Donald - SA Intern <saintern@peri.com>
Subject: [DML] delorean on M2
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:15:39 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Just to let everyone know there was a delorean featured today(April
26th)on MTV's sister station "M2". It had the women who presents the
videos sitting on top of one of the cars from "BTTF". Didn't have time
to listen to get any background on why it was on there but i did catch a
big "BTTF" banner in the background. Any idea why there would be one of
these cars in NYC at the MTV studio's? Did anyone get the chance to
catch it?
Donald Kazmark
**********************************************************************
This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and 
intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they   
are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify 
systems administration at postmaster@peri.com.
This footnote also confirms that this email message has been scanned for
the presence of commonly detectable virus-types.
**********************************************************************
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 199 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=199
From: Brian Metz <metz.50@osu.edu>
Subject: [DML] Re: Jan. 1st
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:02:25 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
In-Reply-To: <19990426192517.21577.qmail@orb1.osu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  >I wanted to know if anyone knows if Y2K will affect the onboard computer
in the "D"
>
>        Thanks...Donnie
 I HOPE YOU ARE KIDDING. ALL THE COMPUTER DOES IS TAKE THE READINGS THAT
THE SENSORS ARE CURRENTLY SENDING TO IT AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS ACCORDINGLY.
THE COMPUNTER COULDN'T CARE LESS WHAT THE DATE IS.
BRIAN
#16584  
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 201 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=201
Subject: [DML] No Subject
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 202 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=202
From: Brian Henderlong <bhenderlong@mindspring.com>
Subject: [DML] custom DeLorean pic
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:09:26 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
There's a picture of an interesting custom DeLorean at:
http://home.t-online.de/home/Klaus.Steiner/meet98.htm
The car is red and the taillights have been replaced with
those of a Ferrari!  Looks very strange!  Also, the louvers
have been removed.
Check it out,
Brian Henderlong
mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com
VIN#: working on it...
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 203 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=203
From: "Dave Price" <davep2@clipper.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Radio inputs
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:49:17 -0700
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
References: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Do either the Craig or the ASI radios have an auxiliary-in jack on them
> (for connecting an external CD player, for example)? If not, would anyone
> have a recommendation for a replacement stereo that might include such a
> thing?  A tape player would be preferable to a CD player.
>
Here are the websites for the generic aux-input capable car stereos that
I've found:
www.poweracoustik.com
www.blaupunkt.com
www.audiovox.com
www.panasonic.com
Radio Shack also sells a shaft-mount unit with a front-panel aux in, but
their website doesn't have any info; I saw it in a recent mailer.
Besides Radio Shack, and a couple Audiovox units, you'll have to cut a hole
in your console face to fit the stereo.  This isn't that bad if you have a
small rotary tool, a steady hand, and a cutting disc.  The Blaupunkt units
have the aux-input in the back which is much nicer for my setup.  I have a
Blaupunkt Apsen and a laptop playing MP3s connected to the rear.
Good luck!
- Dave

------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 204 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=204
From: "Frank Lommen" <j.m.s.c.lommen@hccnet.nl>
Subject: [DML] No Subject
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:32:08 +0200
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello everyone,
Can anyone give me the E-mail adress to Darryl Tinnerstet from Olympia, WA.
I lost everything
during a HDD Crash.
Thanx
Frenkie
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 205 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=205
From: Brian Henderlong <bhenderlong@mindspring.com>
Subject: [DML] Raffled DMC
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:54:29 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does anyone know if the DeLorean being raffled off at:
http://www.piusxi.org/DeLorean.html
was actually won?  The raffle was supposed to be last
month.  It'd be interesting to know who got the car and
how many tickets they bought (i.e., how much they "paid"
for it!).  Anybody hear what happened?
Brian Henderlong
mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com
VIN#: working on it...
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 206 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=206
From: Martin Gutkowski <martin.is@connect-2.co.uk>
Subject: [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:53:25 +0100
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org> <3.0.1.32.19990426135710.006c311c@pop.mindspring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dear Brian,
I have forwarded all the advice people have generously put up on the DML, but
my original post was a couple of weeks after Clare first contacted me due to
the problems with the DML. Unfortunately she hasn't replied - maybe it's
something to do with her term-times (maybe she's gone home to Ireland), but I
will certainly keep you all posted.
I too never saw those pictures, as I think Clare didn't either!
Martin
Brian Henderlong wrote:
> Anyone hear anything further about the DeLorean that was turned over by the
> rioting college students?  Has anyone heard from the owner?
>
> I'm curious to know what kind of service his/her insurance company is
> giving, whether there are any more pictures online, and whether any civil
> or criminal suits have been filed.
>
> Just wondering,
>
> Brian Henderlong
> mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com
> VIN#: working on it...
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
> Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 207 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=207
From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: Raffled DMC
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:11:03 -0400 (EDT)
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990426165429.006f1078@pop.mindspring.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
as a PS
  I've just sent an e-mail to one of the guys in charge of the auction.
I'll pass any info on to the list that I get.
 -=mike=-
*-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*
| http://www.poulincomm.com   |
| http://www.WWJP.com         |
*-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 208 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=208
From: Joe Capasso <capasso@cyberenet.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Raffled DMC
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:37:07 -0500
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <3.0.1.32.19990426165429.006f1078@pop.mindspring.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    I purchased a DeLorean raffle ticket from Chad Sorce.  The cost was
$40.  My ticket number was 504.  At the time, Chad Sorce had said that he
expected to sell at least another 100 tickets.  I recently e-mailed him
asking him who won.  His response was that he will post the results on the
web page as soon as he recieves permission from the winner to use her name
in public.  He said, "All I can tell you right now is the winner came from
Honey Creek Wisc."  I doubt the whole thing was a scam, but I do feel that
her name should be posted with a picture of her standing next to her
prize....
Joe
capasso@cyberenet.net
VIN: I wish...
Henderlong wrote:
> Does anyone know if the DeLorean being raffled off at:
>
> http://www.piusxi.org/DeLorean.html
>
> was actually won?  The raffle was supposed to be last
> month.  It'd be interesting to know who got the car and
> how many tickets they bought (i.e., how much they "paid"
> for it!).  Anybody hear what happened?
>
> Brian Henderlong
> mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com
> VIN#: working on it...
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
> Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com


------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 209 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=209
From: Jimbo0946@aol.com
Subject: [DML] Re: Radio inputs
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:48:32 EDT
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have hooked up a 10 disc CD changer and mounted it on the rear shelf.  Hook 
up is a snap to the origional radio.  Sounds great too.  And if I needed to 
take it out for origionality, about five minutes.    
JimmyC
VIN# 15880
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 210 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=210
From: David Sontos <dsontos@sybercom.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Long Trips
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:59:15 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990426114037.26783B-100000@linux2>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Mike,
If your D reaches 220, I bet your fans are NOT coming on. Check your fan diode
located in the relay comparment. My D never gets above 150 on the gage. When it
warms up I can hear the fans cut in and watch the temp gage drop 5-10 degrees
and then they cut out.
Michel Poulin wrote:
>  Over the weekend my friend and I put 300 miles on the D. It was a mix of
> city and highway. The D much prefers the highway as aposed to stop and go.
>   The water temp would shoot up to 220 in a matter of minuts when we
> started goingfrom stop light to stop light.  Once we got moving again, the
> temp would drop below 150 quickly. By design, it's just not ment to sit
> idel.
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 211 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=211
From: NELLYMAC1@aol.com
Subject: [DML] Re: Radio inputs
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:25:06 EDT
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
ron 
I fitted a Sonycdx81 to my Delorean the head unit fitted with no adjustment 
and the auto changer fits perfectly under the bonnet (vertical against the 
bulk head) the problem I had was the rear speakers .They are so hard to get 
too ,and after you do the original Craig ones are such an odd shape! I had to 
spend a few weeks making new cradles for them from "Plastimole"
The result though was great and I kept all the old stuff to keep everyone 
happy if I ever sell!
Neil in Scotland
Vin 2119
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 212 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=212
From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: Raffled DMC
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:05:33 -0400 (EDT)
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990426165429.006f1078@pop.mindspring.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
  I called up their office a day before the rafel and used my credit card
to pay $100 for three tickets. I asked for confermation via e-mail of the
ticket numbers. I neither got confermation, nor have I seen the charge on
my credit card bill. Last I looked, they hadn't updated their web page
with any of the information they stated that they would provide. (reason I
waited so long to get my tickets, I was waiting for the illusive info.)
   I too would be interested in finding out the dirt on that car.
 -=mike=-
*-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*
| http://www.poulincomm.com   |
| http://www.WWJP.com         |
*-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*
On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Brian Henderlong wrote:
> Does anyone know if the DeLorean being raffled off at:
> 
> http://www.piusxi.org/DeLorean.html
> 
> was actually won?  The raffle was supposed to be last
> month.  It'd be interesting to know who got the car and
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 213 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=213
Subject: [DML] No Subject
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 214 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=214
Subject: [DML] No Subject
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 215 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=215
Subject: [DML] No Subject
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 216 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=216
Subject: [DML] No Subject
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 217 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=217
Subject: [DML] No Subject
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 218 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=218
Subject: [DML] No Subject
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 219 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=219
From: sundiver@discordia.org
Subject: [DML] Re: Jan. 1st
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:46:38 -0400 (EDT)
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904261545070.2804-100000@benatar.snurgle.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 26-Apr-99 William T Wilson wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 dtaylor2@neo.rr.com wrote:
> 
>> I wanted to know if anyone knows if Y2K will affect the onboard
>> computer in the "D"
> 
> I'll go out on a limb here and say that Y2K will affect the onboard
> computer in no or virtually no cars.  We had a discussion about this a
> while back and it seems the criteria for a Y2K problem are:
> 
> Clock must be installed in system;
> System must care about clock output;
> Clock must be set to valid date.
> 
> I don't know whether the DMC-12 computer contains any clocks or not, but
> if it does, you can reset them to 1981 by disconnecting the battery. :}
>
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I was under the impression that the 
DeLorean doesn't have any computers as we normally think of them. At
least nothing with a microprocessor and memory. Just some ciruits that
work as parts of feedback loops in the engine control system.
- J
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------ message 220 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=220
From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4@osu.edu>
Subject: [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:56:46 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org> <3.0.1.32.19990426135710.006c311c@pop.mindspring.com> <3724D245.1B600B77@connect-2.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dear List,
    The site where the pictures of the wreck were supposed to be
(http://www.angelfire.com/mi2/delorean/index2.html) was setup weird.  I don't
know how they worked it, but when I clicked on the hyperlinked text, all I got
was a blank page.  My brother advised me that if I typed in the word
"toolbar.html" over where "index2.html" was in the address that it would then
work, and it did.  I then got to the photo gallery page where the pictures were
supposed to be, and they were not there.  I asked the owner of that page to send
me a copy of the pix via e-mail, but when he sent them, they arrived in an
unreadable format.  The specific error I got was "invalid header".  I don't know
what this means, but I know that the picture would not open up.
    I got tired of the wild goose chase, so I got on the East Lansing police
station site, and viewed the picture they had of the tragedy.  They also included
a copyright notice on the picture, so you'll have to go to that site and check it
out for yourself.  I hope my URL listing works!  By the way, it's only worth
seeing if you feel like getting really upset over the wanton destruction of the
most fabulous car ever built. (reminiscent of the tragic scene at the end of BTTF
III)
Never-the-less, perhaps viewing it will encourage us all to further understand
the importance of a good safe parking place for our one-of-a-kind cars at all
times.  It will have been a total loss only if we fail to learn nothing from it!
http://www.ci.east-lansing.mi.us/Riot/images/1413.jpg
    -Josh
     VIN 5102
Martin Gutkowski wrote:
> Dear Brian,
>
> I have forwarded all the advice people have generously put up on the DML, but
> my original post was a couple of weeks after Clare first contacted me due to
> the problems with the DML. Unfortunately she hasn't replied - maybe it's
> something to do with her term-times (maybe she's gone home to Ireland), but I
> will certainly keep you all posted.
>
> I too never saw those pictures, as I think Clare didn't either!
>
> Martin
>
> Brian Henderlong wrote:
>
> > Anyone hear anything further about the DeLorean that was turned over by the
> > rioting college students?  Has anyone heard from the owner?
> >
> > I'm curious to know what kind of service his/her insurance company is
> > giving, whether there are any more pictures online, and whether any civil
> > or criminal suits have been filed.
> >
> > Just wondering,
> >
> > Brian Henderlong
> > mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com
> > VIN#: working on it...
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
> > Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
> Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------ message 221 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=221
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Raffled DMC
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:07:28 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sounds like this raffle story is getting very interesting. Keep us posted.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>

----------
> From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: Raffled DMC
> Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 8:05 PM
> 
>   I called up their office a day before the rafel and used my credit card
> to pay $100 for three tickets. I asked for confermation via e-mail of the
> ticket numbers. I neither got confermation, nor have I seen the charge on
> my credit card bill. Last I looked, they hadn't updated their web page
> with any of the information they stated that they would provide. (reason
I
> waited so long to get my tickets, I was waiting for the illusive info.)
>    I too would be interested in finding out the dirt on that car.
>  -=mike=-
> 
> *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*
> | http://www.poulincomm.com   |
> | http://www.WWJP.com         |
> *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*
> 
> On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Brian Henderlong wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know if the DeLorean being raffled off at:
> > 
> > http://www.piusxi.org/DeLorean.html
> > 
> > was actually won?  The raffle was supposed to be last
> > month.  It'd be interesting to know who got the car and
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
> Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com
> 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------ message 222 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=222
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: loose steering
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:33:30 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Neil,
The fix is to replace the bushing with a new one. To replace it you don't
remove the steering wheel, you remove the steering column.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
----------
> From: NELLYMAC1@aol.com
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: loose steering
> Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 10:31 PM
> 
> I have the exact opposite ! my steering is really tight and a squeaking
noise 
> is louder than the stereo will go! If I point the car round a tight
corner I 
> can take my hands of the wheel ,lay down and have a nice cup of tea,
forty 
> winks ,read a book and the car still keeps the same track ( a real party 
> trick to scare them all ) I know there is a problem but I,m sure its just
the 
> bush where the colum goes through the bulk head 
> Does anyone know a fix as to be honest the last time I went to tackle the
> problem I spent a few hours without getting the steering wheel off !!
> 
> help would be helpful!
> Neil in Scotland 
> VIN#2119
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Why are most stock sites so slow and annoying to use?  StockMaster.com
> is fast, easy, powerful, and free!   Use company names, not ticker
> symbols.  Track your portfolio.  Visit:
http://clickhere/egroups.com/click/65
> 
> eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
> http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications
> 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------ message 223 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=223
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Lo-Jack
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:37:40 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Installing a Lo-Jack system in a DeLorean is like wearing a parachute on a
major airline. Insurance company statistics indicate that car thieves avoid
exotic cars especially the DeLorean.
The Lo-Jack system is without a doubt the best vehicle recovery system
available, it should be no more difficult to install in a DeLorean than in
any other car, I just don't think it would ever be used.
 
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
----------
> From: Paraversal@aol.com
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Lo-Jack
> Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 10:51 PM
> 
> I was just wondering if any owners out there have had the Lo-Jack vehicle
> recovery system installed in their DeLorean, and what the real benefits
of 
> the system are. For those of you who are unfamiliar with Lo-Jack, it is
NOT 
> an alarm system, but more of a homing device that the police use to track
> stolen cars. If your car is stolen with a Lo-Jack system on board, they
will 
> track it and the police will retrieve it. Now honestly I do not like to 
> change my DeLorean in the slightest. I really wouldn't want many changes
made 
> to the car. Does anyone out there have this installed on their DeLorean?
What 
> do you think of it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Curious Justin
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Show mom you love her.  Check out our great Mother's Day Gifts!
> 14K Gold and gemstone jewelry, leather and cloth wallets and purses,
> gardening, gourmet, kitchen, more! Free Shipping in the US!
> http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/142
> 
> eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
> http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications
> 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------ message 224 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=224
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Long Trips
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:04:27 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Michel,
The problem with your cooling system is air trapped in the coolant lines.
Air bleed the cooling system and your "D" will run nice and cool. 
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
> 
> Michel Poulin wrote:
> 
> >  Over the weekend my friend and I put 300 miles on the D. It was a mix
of
> > city and highway. The D much prefers the highway as aposed to stop and
go.
> >   The water temp would shoot up to 220 in a matter of minuts when we
> > started goingfrom stop light to stop light.  Once we got moving again,
the
> > temp would drop below 150 quickly. By design, it's just not ment to sit
> > idel.
> >
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
> Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com
> 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------ message 225 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=225
From: MCCOMBC@dteenergy.com
Subject: [DML] Prototype
Date: 27 Apr 99 07:45:17 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Saw the same "#2 prototype" car at a Detroit auction over the week-end. It
is 
the same car  
that was purchased by a Detroit car dealer at the Las Vegas auction for  
$10,000. It has sliding windows...a differently designed engine 
cover...front air intake, etc. Bidding for the car did not meet the reserve 
but I noticed from the "still for sale" tag placed on the car after the 
bidding had ended that the dealer who owns it is now asking $14,000. Pretty 
inexpensive for a major piece of automotive history (I guess I'm biased).  
There appeared to be mainly dealers at this auction so they were not 
interested in this kind of investment and most of the non-dealer types at
the 
auction could have been put off by the ill fitting doors and body panels,
etc. 
although the car was drawing a lot of lookers.   
  
Cliff McComb  
Detroit, MI  
VIN # 11546
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------ message 226 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=226
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Interesting Clutch Problem
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:21:39 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lee,
Concerning owners who say they have no problems with the plastic clutch
line, I present the following challenge. 
Drive your "D" for at least one hour during a hot summer day; 95 degrees F
plus. Than enter a big city downtown traffic jam with stop & go traffic for
another hour. If at that point you can shift the car without gear clash or
not being able to shift gears at all, I would be very surprised.
The fact of the matter is that the plastic line will start to expand under
very high heat conditions and constant pedal action.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
----------
> From: Lee <lseiler@radiance.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: Interesting Clutch Problem
> Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 12:52 PM
> 
> At 01:15 AM 4/26/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >Marc & Lee,
> >Shortly after the DeLorean hit the streets the infamous "plastic clutch
> >line" problems started popping up all over the country. In an effort to
> >correct the problem an adjustable clutch pedal link was manufactured and
> >supplied to dealers for replacement. (Service Bulletin No. ST-07-9/82).
The
> >problem was that in order to compensate for the loss of pedal action the
> >link could be easily over adjusted this caused the master cylinder
plunger
> >to travel too far in the bore causing premature failure of the master
> >cylinder. The adjustable link should only be considered as temporary,
> >replacing the factory plastic line with the stainless braided is the
only
> >way to go.
> 
> reply:
> 
> Joe,
> 
> 	So if I understand what you are saying, that some D's may have this
> adjustable part and this part can be over adjusted to compensate for loss
> of pedel which will cause the master cylinder to fail.
> 	Also that the stainless line is the correct and permanent fix for both?
> 
> 	I replaced my plastic line a while back so I expect the new master
> cylinder to last
> for a while. I also note that some owners report no problems in spite of
> the plastic line.
> 
> Lee
> 
> 
> 
> Lee
> 81DMC-12
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
> Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com
> 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------ message 227 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=227
From: Paraversal@aol.com
Subject: [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:45:05 EDT
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I just wanted to invite everybody to my new page with pics of the turned over 
DeLorean that was vandalized during the East Lansing Riot. It is a very 
archaic site and I cant promise that all of the pics are working at the 
moment, but none-the-less its up. They are there for you to enjoy so please 
feel free to stop by. You may visit it at:
http://members.xoom.com/PipelineRecs/dmchome.html
Enjoy,
Justin
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

-----------------------------------------------------------------
-- 
View the full archives, subscribe/unsubscribe, use the
group calendar at http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews
Manage your subscriptions at http://eGroups.com
Free e-mail groups by eGroups.com.
 
From: eGroups Digest [dmcnews@egroups.com]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 4:58 AM
To: David.Swingle
Subject: dmcnews digest
eGroups Daily Digest: dmcnews has 35 new messages.
Click here http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=242 to read them.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
242. LHEMB@aol.com             [DML] Re: Dash Board Cover
243. Carororo@aol.com          [DML] Re: Chrome Wheels
244. Marc A Levy               [DML] Re: Door Struts
245. Marc A Levy               [DML] Re: RV: Need Tech Info.
246. DMC Joe                   [DML] Re: Stalling, etc,-
247. WtrResQ@aol.com           [DML] (DML Stalling...
248. William T Wilson          [DML] Re: RV: Need Tech Info.
249. Marc Barth                [DML] Re: RV: Need Tech Info.
250. Marc Barth                [DML] Re: Brake master cylinder rebuild kit
251. Marc Barth                [DML] Re: Stalling, etc,-
252. LovDMC12@aol.com          [DML] Re: The Bricklin
253. DMC Joe                   [DML] Re: Mike Substenly
254. DMC Joe                   [DML] Re: RV: Need Tech Info.
255. ABatt10347@aol.com        [DML] Re: Fuel Tank
256. DMC Joe                   [DML] Re: Fuel Tank
257. DMC Joe                   [DML] Re: Door Struts
258. DMC Joe                   [DML] Re: engine removeing
259. Danny Smith               [DML] Re: Chrome Wheels
260. Ben Krasnow               [DML] Re: Fuel Tank
261. DMC Joe                   [DML] Re: Brake master cylinder rebuild kit
262. magriese@us.ibm.com       [DML] Re: Door Struts
263. Michel Poulin             [DML] Re: The Bricklin
264. magriese@us.ibm.com       [DML] Re: RV: Need Tech Info.
265. raynet@home.net           [DML] Re: Stalling, etc,-
266. raynet@home.net           [DML] Re: Brake master cylinder rebuild kit
267. Michel Poulin             [DML] Re: Fuel Tank
268. Bob Brandys               [DML] Re: The Bricklin
269. Michel Poulin             [DML] Re: engine removeing
270. David Sontos              [DML] Re: Fuel Tank
271. DeLorean31@aol.com        [DML] Re: engine removeing
272. robert parker             [DML] Re: [Fwd: Belfast N.Ireland.]
273. KayoOng@aol.com           [DML] Re: Chrome Wheels
274. Caliendo76@aol.com        [DML] Re: The Bricklin
275. BRUCE BENSON              [DML] Re: Stalling, etc,-
276. raynet@home.net           [DML] Re: engine removeing
-----------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------ message 242 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=242
From: LHEMB@aol.com
Subject: [DML] Re: Dash Board Cover
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:14:04 EDT
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I ordered a very nice dashboard cover for my D about four years ago through 
Pep Boys in Jax, Fla. As I recall it only cost $35.00. It is gray to match my 
interior, 
and still looks like new. It has really protected my dash; it still looks 
like new.
Brian McCabe, Santa Rosa Beach, Fla.
auto D #5830
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 243 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=243
From: Carororo@aol.com
Subject: [DML] Re: Chrome Wheels
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:03:32 EDT
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Josh-
Try a plating company.  My husband and I used to have a small paint shop, and 
some of our items (like the brush covers for floor cleaning machines) were 
chrome plated .  We gave a clear finish to the underside.
You can probably find someone that you know who has a connection.
Carol
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 244 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=244
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: Door Struts
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:28:18 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <37266C4B.3C94@pathway.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
All of the DeLorean service centers sell the door struts.
If you strut is old, replace them first.  If that does not fix it, then
you need to have it adjusted. 
Adjusting the doors should be done by someone who knows what they are
doing, and has the right tools.  Many have smashed their back window
trying to adjust the doors improperly.
cooney@pathway.net wrote:
> 
> I have a sagging passenger door which seems to be more affected by cold
> weather.  Two questions:  How do I know this is the strut and not the
> adjustment, second, where is the best place to purchase door struts,
> preferably heavy duty cold weather types. I read of a supplier of
> similar struts but cannot find it in the archives. Thanks.
> 
> Mike
> #2467
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 245 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=245
From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: RV: Need Tech Info.
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:25:10 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <00a101be9117$e86103e0$028619d4@robot>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
There is a lot of information in the archives on Turbos.
The "official" turbo delorean was built by Legend Industries.  The car
never made it to production, but there are a few prototype cars still
around.  They are usually expensive.
There are a number of turbo kits for add on to the PRV6.  I have the
Island twin turbo kit, which is a twin turbo setup.
Most of the turbo kit's are limited to 6lbs to avoid ring damage to the
engine.  The spec's of the Island drop the 0-60 time from 10 seconds to
7 seconds.
Most of the delorean service centers have their favorite turbo kit to
install.  Most of the kits I have seen are single turbo.  I have never
rode in one, but I am told that the performance of twin VS single is
about the same.  The single turbo is obviously cheaper.
I recently spoke to Don at Delorean Motor Center, and it sounds like he
is currently working on modern improvements to his turbo setup.
I have heard of no major brake improvements to the DMC.  One of the list
members sells braided brake lines, and others have tried drilled
rotors.  I am not an advocate of drilled rotors, but I do have the set
of the brake lines.  It was a minor improvement I would recommend to
anyone who has 18 year old rubber lines.
> Daniel Delmastro Luriaud wrote:
> 
> Hi All!
> 
> I'm interested to buy my D. soon (5 speed) and I need to know few
> technical aspects of the car, and these are: Exist any "oficial" or
> "legal" version of the Turbo DMC 12?, May be some "Twin Turbo"
> version?, If the answer is NO, could somebody tell me if is possible
> to make this adaptation to the original PRV engine, and may be give me
> an idea of how much this operation could cost?, and, what turbo brand
> could be better?. May be I will need better brake system, it is
> possible to fit an ABS to the D.?. Thanks a lot in advance and receive
> a warm greeting!
> 
> Daniel
> dandelluri@ctv.es
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 246 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=246
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Stalling, etc,-
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:47:36 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hesitation when turning or stopping is an indication of a problem with the
fuel baffle.
You said you replaced the pick-up hose and it lies flat on the bottom of
the tank, it should be attached to the fuel baffle. Some cars that have
been serviced by non DeLorean service centers have had the baffle removed.
Make sure that, first, you have a fuel baffle and secondly be sure that it
is installed correctly.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
----------
> From: mbslaw@webtv.net
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Stalling, etc,-
> Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 11:10 PM
> 
> I have just gotten almost all of the bugs out of #2904 that I bought last
fall except  when the gas tank is down to 4-5 gals the car begins to stall
out when I corner sharply
> or stop suddely.  We replaced the fuel pump and soft with age intake fuel
hose making sure the new one lies flat on the bottom of the tank .Gas
filter looks ok but with small hole/opening.
> Secondly, brake pedal goes to floor on some "panic" stops
> only ,fine rest of the time.
> Help,suggestions?
>                          Michael (D Lore N)(fla plate)
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Does your free web site address contain more letters than the alphabet?
> Register a domain name with DomainDirect. A domain with NO hosting fees.
> Visit http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/49 for full details.
> 
> 
> eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
> http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications
> 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 247 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=247
From: WtrResQ@aol.com
Subject: [DML] (DML Stalling...
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 03:48:24 EDT
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Michael writes:
I have just gotten almost all of the bugs out of #2904 that I bought last 
fall except  when the gas tank is down to 4-5 gals the car begins to stall 
out when I corner sharply
or stop suddely.  We replaced the fuel pump and soft with age intake fuel 
hose making sure the new one lies flat on the bottom of the tank .Gas filter 
looks ok but with small hole/opening.
Secondly, brake pedal goes to floor on some "panic" stops
only ,fine rest of the time.
Help,suggestions?
                         Michael (D Lore N)(fla plate)
**********************************************
Michael, i think that the problem you have is the same thing i had with my 
car.  the "filter that i think you are referring to is actually called a 
baffel.  the important thing here is that the hole in the middle is to secure 
it to the bottom of the fuel tank.  mine actually ran out of gas on me with a 
little over half a tank of fuel.  what you need to do is, with half a tank of 
fuel, feel down into the tank through the fuel pump hole, and feel for a bolt 
at the bottom of the tank.  there should be a 10mm nut in there too, although 
there wasnt one in my tank, that secures the baffle to the nut.  what was 
happening was the baffle began to float in the fuel after the fuel was being 
used.
good luck, 
james (stainls)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 248 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=248
From: William T Wilson <fluffy@snurgle.org>
Subject: [DML] Re: RV: Need Tech Info.
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:40:19 -0400 (EDT)
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
In-Reply-To: <00a101be9117$e86103e0$028619d4@robot>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Daniel Delmastro Luriaud wrote:
> I'm interested to buy my D. soon (5 speed) and I need to know few
> technical aspects of the car, and these are: Exist any "oficial" or
> "legal" version of the Turbo DMC 12?, May be some "Twin Turbo"
There were factory prototypes of a twin turbo setup for the DeLorean which
was, like almost everything else about the car, way ahead of its time.  
It included computer-controlled boost (common on modern cars, not so much
in the early 1980s) and probably produced well in excess of 200 HP.  
Unfortunately, this model of DeLorean was scheduled for 1984 year
production and was never built, except as prototypes.  Steve Wynne at DMC
Houston has one.  This is called the "Legend" turbo.
You can get an aftermarket turbo upgrade setup called the "Island" turbo.
It is made by Eleanor Rogers at Turbo Manifold in... Ohio?  The 2nd
dmcnews.com 'zine' has lots of information on this.  It is modeled after
the Legend turbo kit, but is less advanced.  Unlike the prototypes, it has
no boost controller (AFAIK) and no intercoolers.  There was some musings
on the list about intercooling the Island kit (or adapting them to a
totally different turbo engine) a couple months ago, and one of the list
members made some preliminary (and quite good) drawings, but nothing ever
came of it.
The Island kit comes (or used to) in two versions, one with catalytic
converters and one without.  The one without may no longer be available, I
don't know for sure.  The one with converters passes emissions and the one
without doesn't, usually.  These versions run fairly low boost pressure of
about 6-7 lbs and have a correspondingly low increase in HP.  It used to
be said that the Island kit made just about exactly 200 HP, but the
current conventional wisdom is that it's probably somewhat less than that
- maybe 170 or 180 HP.  It is still an improvement over the stock 130+HP
and moves the powerband up in the RPM range, which also helps.  I believe
the Island kit costs about $3000-$4000.  It's supposedly a pretty
straightforward bolt-on conversion, but I've never installed one myself.
> could be better?. May be I will need better brake system, it is
> possible to fit an ABS to the D.?. Thanks a lot in advance and receive
The DeLorean brakes are adequate for normal street driving, and there
aren't many people who race DeLoreans, so brake upgrades are few and far
between.  I haven't found any, and as usual, the first guy that does
something like this gets to do all the work for everybody else. ;)
Note that this does not mean they don't exist, but simply that I haven't
found them on the web or on the smattering of brake-related shops I've
talked to.
The brakes of choice, at least for me, are Porsche, and I think your
eventual choice in brake upgrades would depend on what else you're
upgrading.  If you change out the wheels too (which can be done) then you
may find enough space in there for big 14" vented rotors; rotors are more
or less all the same (in that they are round and bolt on in the middle)  
and a good machine shop can attach just about any rotor to just about any
braking assembly, as long as it will physically fit in the wheel.  If you
want to keep the stock wheels, the size of the front wheels is the
limiting factor, since front brakes are more important.
You'll need new calipers too; get calipers from the same sort of car you
got the rotors off of, so it all fits nicely, and have your speed shop of
choice attach it.  Take lots of measurements so everything fits, and be
prepared to spend a lot.  Your new calipers will probably demand new
cylinders too, but, to be honest, that's the easy part. :} Just be sure
you don't kill yourself getting everything straightened out since your
cylinders must all be properly sized.  Choice of good calipers from a
high-performance car will also supply you with a wide variety of
performance brake pads.
I could recommend ultimategarage.com as a place to start if you're serious
about serious brakes.  Their stuff is pricey, but they would probably be
willing to do most of this custom work.
As for ABS, I would stay away from it.  Although ABS is a fairly valuable
safety feature, it is extremely difficult to add to a car as an
aftermarket upgrade.  Note that ABS doesn't really reduce your stopping
distance, but instead simply reduces the risk of losing control of the
car in a skid.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 249 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=249
From: "Marc Barth" <d16y8@hotmail.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: RV: Need Tech Info.
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:06:52 PDT
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'm not sure what you mean by "legal" or "official" version but you 
can turbocharge just about any car.  Depending on how much boost you 
want to run will determine the cost and difficulty of installation.  
You'll need to have a machine shop make custom exhaust manifolds to 
bolt up a turbo(s).   Unless there is an aftermarket kit that I am 
unaware of.  Garrett and Turbonetics are a good place to start 
looking for turbos.  You'll need a wastegate, blow off valve, and an 
intercooler if you want to run more than 5psi(recommended).  If you 
have any more questions let me know.
>From: "Daniel Delmastro Luriaud" <dandelluri@ctv.es>
>Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com
>To: "DeLorean Mail List" <dmcnews@egroups.com>
>Subject: [DML] RV: Need Tech Info.
>Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 02:37:48 +0100
>
>Hi All!
>
>I'm interested to buy my D. soon (5 speed) and I need to know few 
technical aspects of the car, and these are: Exist any "oficial" 
or "legal" version of the Turbo DMC 12?, May be some "Twin Turbo" 
version?, If the answer is NO, could somebody tell me if is possible 
to make this adaptation to the original PRV engine, and may be give 
me an idea of how much this operation could cost?, and, what turbo 
brand could be better?. May be I will need better brake system, it is 
possible to fit an ABS to the D.?. Thanks a lot in advance and 
receive a warm greeting!
>
>Daniel
>dandelluri@ctv.es
>
>
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
---
>Does your free web site address contain more letters than the 
alphabet?
>Register a domain name with DomainDirect. A domain with NO hosting 
fees.
>Visit http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/49 for full details.
>
>
>eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
>http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications
>
_______________________________________________________________
Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 250 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=250
From: "Marc Barth" <d16y8@hotmail.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: Brake master cylinder rebuild kit
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:07:56 PDT
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Yes it is definitely your master cylinder.  This exact problem 
happened to me on a Volvo I used to own.
>From: "Duke" <at88mph@mobis.com>
>Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com
>To: <dmcnews@egroups.com>
>Subject: [DML] Brake master cylinder rebuild kit
>Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:21:35 -0500
>
>The other day I was driving along and when I hit the brakes, the 
pedal went
>all the way to the floor.  I hit it again and it was fine.  (since 
that
>first time, it has only happened one other time but I'm not going to 
take
>any chances)  Does anyone know where I can get a brake master 
cylinder
>rebuild kit from?  I've got the Girling part number for it (SP7243) 
but no
>one has it!   If not, does anyone know what other car used the same 
brake
>master cylinder?  I've also got the number for the master cylinder 
(74660518
>& 74066116) but I can't find these anywhere either.  Any help would 
be
>greatly appreciated.
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>Duke
>
>
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
---
>Does your free web site address contain more letters than the 
alphabet?
>Register a domain name with DomainDirect. A domain with NO hosting 
fees.
>Visit http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/49 for full details.
>
>
>eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
>http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications
>
>
>
_______________________________________________________________
Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 251 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=251
From: "Marc Barth" <d16y8@hotmail.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: Stalling, etc,-
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:07:56 PDT
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
If you brake pedal is going to the floor it is probably your master 
cylinder.  If you replace your fuel pump and hoses check to see if 
your injectors need cleaning.
>From: mbslaw@webtv.net
>Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com
>To: dmcnews@egroups.com
>Subject: [DML] Stalling, etc,-
>Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 03:10:00 -0000
>
>I have just gotten almost all of the bugs out of #2904 that I bought 
last fall except  when the gas tank is down to 4-5 gals the car 
begins to stall out when I corner sharply
>or stop suddely.  We replaced the fuel pump and soft with age intake 
fuel hose making sure the new one lies flat on the bottom of the 
tank .Gas filter looks ok but with small hole/opening.
>Secondly, brake pedal goes to floor on some "panic" stops
>only ,fine rest of the time.
>Help,suggestions?
>                         Michael (D Lore N)(fla plate)
>
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
---
>Does your free web site address contain more letters than the 
alphabet?
>Register a domain name with DomainDirect. A domain with NO hosting 
fees.
>Visit http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/49 for full details.
>
>
>eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
>http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications
>
>
>
_______________________________________________________________
Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 252 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=252
From: LovDMC12@aol.com
Subject: [DML] Re: The Bricklin
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:29:41 EDT
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Pedar,
The Bricklin came with two different engines.  Some have a Ford 351 CID 
Windsor and some have an AMC 360 CID.  I've never actually seen one, but I 
know some folks who have.  From what I've gathered, Bricklins suffered from a 
quality problem.  I believe this probably sealed their fate.  That and the 
fact that Malcolm Bricklin was a rich man who had no experience in the car 
business like DeLorean had.  I think Bricklin's company simply ran out of 
money.
The Organization of Bricklin Owners is having a gathering September 16-18 at 
the Charlotte, NC Speedway to celebrate the Bricklin's 25th anniversary.  I'm 
going to try and go one day just so that I can see a Bricklin SV1 for myself 
and compare it to my DeLorean.  This event is advertised in "Hemmings Motor 
News."  The man to contact is Joseph F. DeLorenzo at 716-247-1575.  He can 
probably tell you some sites and give you some info on events relating to the 
Bricklin like the one I mentioned.
I hope this helps.
Brian
VIN 1597  
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 253 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=253
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Mike Substenly
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:13:49 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sean,
Mike's e mail is msubstel@lorainccc.edu
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
----------
> From: Sean Jones <shain@noln.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Mike Substenly
> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 8:32 PM
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Can i get mike substenly's e-mail address?
> 
> - Shain
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Why are most stock sites so slow and annoying to use?  StockMaster.com
> is fast, easy, powerful, and free!   Use company names, not ticker
> symbols.  Track your portfolio.  Visit:
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/65
> 
> eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
> http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications
> 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 254 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=254
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: RV: Need Tech Info.
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:26:22 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Daniel,
Turbo Manifold Co. out of Natick MA manufactures an excellent twin turbo
for the DeLorean. Contact them at 800 449-1248 for information. There is no
ABS brake system available.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
----------
From: Daniel Delmastro Luriaud <dandelluri@ctv.es>
To: DeLorean Mail List <dmcnews@egroups.com>
Subject: [DML] RV: Need Tech Info.
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 9:37 PM
Hi All!
I'm interested to buy my D. soon (5 speed) and I need to know few technical
aspects of the car, and these are: Exist any "oficial" or "legal" version
of the Turbo DMC 12?, May be some "Twin Turbo" version?, If the answer is
NO, could somebody tell me if is possible to make this adaptation to the
original PRV engine, and may be give me an idea of how much this operation
could cost?, and, what turbo brand could be better?. May be I will need
better brake system, it is possible to fit an ABS to the D.?. Thanks a lot
in advance and receive a warm greeting!
Daniel
dandelluri@ctv.es

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Does your free web site address contain more letters than the alphabet?
Register a domain name with DomainDirect. A domain with NO hosting fees.
Visit http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/49 for full details.
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications

------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 255 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=255
From: ABatt10347@aol.com
Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel Tank
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:01:30 EDT
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To remove the tank. Take off the fuel tank closing plate (part # 101716). I 
think there are about 20 or 21 bolts to remove. Tank slides out from the 
bottom.  Be sure and take care with the foam attached ( parts 106686, 
106689,106711,106687, and 106688.) to the tank. These need to be put back in 
with the cleaned out tank.
Bruce Battles
Vin 6569
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 256 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=256
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel Tank
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:08:47 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Luke,
DON'T REMOVE THE TANK. It is not necessary to remove the tank for cleaning.
the entire interior of the tank can be accessed through the fuel pump
opening. It does help to have slender arms to reach the far corners of the
tank. If you must remove the tank there are 6 foam rubber mounts
surrounding the tank, these mounts adhere to the adjoining frame pieces
with age. You will have to scrape these pieces away in order to remove the
tank. Removing the tank is no advantage to cleaning it is very labor
intensive and is not necessary.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
----------
> From: Luke.Sandel@cmich.edu
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Fuel Tank
> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 9:26 PM
> 
> In my quest to clean up the fuel system, a tank scrubbing is in order. 
But... I
> can't get the thing out.  Everything has been removed (pump, sender,
plumbing,
> and access cover) but the tank won't budge an inch.  Aside from climbing
in the
> trunk and jumping up and down on it, are there any tricks to getting this
thing
> out?  So far I've tried pushing, pulling, shoving, hitting, wrenching and
> swearing and so far swearing has been the only thing that makes any
difference
> (makes me feel better at least :).
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> Luke
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Too much effort to find the stock info you want each day? StockMaster
> lets you enter a company name and quickly shows you a daily quote,
> chart, and news all on one page. Free!
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/71
> 
> eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
> http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications
> 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 257 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=257
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Door Struts
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:21:58 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Mike,
Purchase replacement struts from PJ Grady or DMC Houston. Install the new
strut on the sagging door, if the door goes all the way up than you have
corrected the problem, if it continues to sag you will need a torsion bar
adjustment.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
----------
> From: cooney@pathway.net
> To: dmcnews@eGroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Door Struts
> Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 10:02 PM
> 
> I have a sagging passenger door which seems to be more affected by cold
> weather.  Two questions:  How do I know this is the strut and not the
> adjustment, second, where is the best place to purchase door struts,
> preferably heavy duty cold weather types. I read of a supplier of
> similar struts but cannot find it in the archives. Thanks.
> 
> Mike 
> #2467
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Does your free web site address contain more letters than the alphabet?
> Register a domain name with DomainDirect. A domain with NO hosting fees.
> Visit http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/49 for full details.
> 
> 
> eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
> http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications
> 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 258 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=258
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: engine removeing
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:47:42 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Michel,
Form-a-gasket was never used at the factory, all the engines left the
engine manufacturing plant in Douvrain France completely assembled with
factory gaskets in place. When they arrived at the DMC plant they were
installed as is, all that was necessary was to attach electric's and
plumbing.
To completely remove the engine follow the procedures at C:04:01 in the
Workshop Manual.
The PRV is an extremely well sealed engine, most oil leaks occur at the oil
sender, change this item and its seal and you may find that your oil leak
will go away.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
----------
> From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] engine removeing
> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 1:03 PM
> 
>   The D I've been working on (I really do need to get the vin for you
> guys) leaks a bit of oil. To look at the gaskits around the timeing chain
> cover and the oil-pan, it looks like the red form-a-gaskit some people
use
> on their valve covers. We've heard that this was done at the factory with
> the expectation that these cars would come in for service and have the
> real gaskits installed, but not all of the cars returned in time. (very
> early '81) We have the kit to replace the gaskits and have been thinking
> that we could either try to lift the engine up a few inches at the back
w/
> the mount bolts removed, OR (prefered) remove the engine.  In looking at
> the car, it looks like it would make for a simple job to remove the
engine
> by removeing the back of the car. Are we at least on the right track? All
> of the other engines I've removed have been out of larger cars with much
> more clearance around the engine to get it out of the hood area.
>   Any info would be helpful. The engine has just over 9k miles on it and
> we'd like to get the seal tight on the oil pan as the botom of the engine
> already looks like crap from the oil.
>  -=mike=-
> 
> *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*
> | http://www.poulincomm.com   |
> | http://www.WWJP.com         |
> *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Why are most stock sites so slow and annoying to use?  StockMaster.com
> is fast, easy, powerful, and free!   Use company names, not ticker
> symbols.  Track your portfolio.  Visit:
http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/65
> 
> eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
> http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications
> 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 259 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=259
From: DJS912@webtv.net (Danny Smith)
Subject: [DML] Re: Chrome Wheels
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:27:06 -0400 (EDT)
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
In-Reply-To: "josh price" <chiphi7@mindspring.com>'s message of Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:05:31 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Josh,
The wheels your seeing are most likley stripped and polished. Some have
black put between the "spokes" and are clear coated. I'm also looking
for someone in my area to do mine. I think metal refinishing shops
sometimes offer this service.
Dan
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 260 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=260
From: Ben Krasnow <kraz@wco.com>
Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel Tank
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:14:13 -0700
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <pid10664.1999.April.28.6:26.408560.@egroups.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The fuel tank is snugged in between the frame bars with foam strips. 
The foam usually hardens up, making the plastic tank *very* snug.  Try
spraying some WD-40 or other silicone lubricant on the foam strips. 
Then, slide a long and very thin piece of metal or a long skinny
screwdriver between the foam and the tank or body.  Working from the
bottom of the car, try to get your hands around the small end of the
tank, and pull down hard.  The tank is strong, and you probably cannot
do any damage by just pulling on it with your hands.  I removed my tank
a while ago and had it sent to be boiled in a professional tank cleaning
service.  Once your tank is out, make sure it is very clean, and change
all or most of the other rubber parts in it to keep dirt and decomposed
rubber from accumulating again.  Good luck
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 261 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=261
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net>
Subject: [DML] Re: Brake master cylinder rebuild kit
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:19:52 -0400
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Duke,
There is another alternative to this situation, you could send your unit
out for a rebuild; check out Apple Hydraulics (1-800-882-7753).  They can
re-sleeve it for about $70.  
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
Web Site:  <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
----------
> From: Duke <at88mph@mobis.com>
> To: dmcnews@egroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Brake master cylinder rebuild kit
> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 11:21 AM
> 
> The other day I was driving along and when I hit the brakes, the pedal
went
> all the way to the floor.  I hit it again and it was fine.  (since that
> first time, it has only happened one other time but I'm not going to take
> any chances)  Does anyone know where I can get a brake master cylinder
> rebuild kit from?  I've got the Girling part number for it (SP7243) but
no
> one has it!   If not, does anyone know what other car used the same brake
> master cylinder?  I've also got the number for the master cylinder
(74660518
> & 74066116) but I can't find these anywhere either.  Any help would be
> greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Duke
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Does your free web site address contain more letters than the alphabet?
> Register a domain name with DomainDirect. A domain with NO hosting fees.
> Visit http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/49 for full details.
> 
> 
> eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
> http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications
> 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews
Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com

------------------------------ message 262 ------------------------------
http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=262
From: magriese@us.ibm.com
Subject: [DML] Re: Door Struts
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:48:57 -0500
X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com
X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Mike - sa