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From: NELLYMAC1@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: loose steering Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:31:54 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have the exact opposite ! my steering is really tight and a squeaking noise is louder than the stereo will go! If I point the car round a tight corner I can take my hands of the wheel ,lay down and have a nice cup of tea, forty winks ,read a book and the car still keeps the same track ( a real party trick to scare them all ) I know there is a problem but I,m sure its just the bush where the colum goes through the bulk head Does anyone know a fix as to be honest the last time I went to tackle the problem I spent a few hours without getting the steering wheel off !!
help would be helpful! Neil in Scotland VIN#2119
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From: Paraversal@aol.com Subject: [DML] Lo-Jack Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:51:19 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I was just wondering if any owners out there have had the Lo-Jack vehicle recovery system installed in their DeLorean, and what the real benefits of the system are. For those of you who are unfamiliar with Lo-Jack, it is NOT an alarm system, but more of a homing device that the police use to track stolen cars. If your car is stolen with a Lo-Jack system on board, they will track it and the police will retrieve it. Now honestly I do not like to change my DeLorean in the slightest. I really wouldn't want many changes made to the car. Does anyone out there have this installed on their DeLorean? What do you think of it.
Thanks,
Curious Justin
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From: "Mike Cutting" <mcutting@ntl.sympatico.ca> Subject: [DML] Re: dmcnews digest Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:21:04 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ References: <199904251229.IAA03733@ns1.nt.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
hi...
i am in the process of purchasing an 82, 5 spd. i will have to float a loan for a good portion of the price, and i figured that it would probably be easier to get some financing (because of the cars age..) if i had an apprasial.. can anyone in the toronto area suggest a reputable apprasier?
i would also appreciate it if someone could let me know of a company that appreciates the value of these cars, and is readily willing to finance them.. i can forsee the age of the car being a problem for my bank.
thanks.. :) <=-mike-=>
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Subject: [DML] Re: prototype spotted Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:42:54 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
James, Sounds like you have a rare find, the sliding windows is the giveaway. See if you can get the VIN. Keep us posted.
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---------- > From: WtrResQ@aol.com > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] prototype spotted > Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 7:31 AM > > i was driving around at work, in San Jose California, when a friend told me > that there was a Delorean in a driveway near his house. i went to check it > out and sure enuff, there it was. it had a Calif. license plate on > it(PROTO1) although it obviously had not ben registered in years. it was
> covered in dust and had 4 flat tires. i noticed that it didnt have the black > window louvers on the back and had sliding side windows on the doors. i > knocked on the door and the "lady of the house" told me that her husband had > purchased it at auction when J. Delorean was going though his "legal > problems". she told me that it had less that 180 miles of "test track only > miles", and that hubby had paid $37K for the car. i had to take off and > hubby wasnt home, so i left my card for him to call me. ill fill you all in > as soon as i get more info. > > happy driving, > james- STAINLS > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com >
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From: William T Wilson <fluffy@snurgle.org> Subject: [DML] Radio inputs Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 03:26:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <199904240251.WAA08785@lumberjack.snurgle.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Do either the Craig or the ASI radios have an auxiliary-in jack on them (for connecting an external CD player, for example)? If not, would anyone have a recommendation for a replacement stereo that might include such a thing? A tape player would be preferable to a CD player.
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Subject: [DML] Re: spec.'s Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:37:34 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Michel, DO NOT ADVANCE THE TIMING! The DeLorean ignition system is extremely stable and will never drift. We have found most cars never need adjustments from their factory settings. If the engine is running rough the problem will be related to items other than timing unless someone has tampered with it. The timing should be set to 13 degrees BTDC + or - 2 degrees. A rough running cold engine is usually caused by a malfunction of the "warm up circuit" or "fuel enrichment circuit".
Concerning the outer drive shaft to hub carrier torque the factory spec is 270 lb. ft.
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---------- > From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com> > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] spec.s > Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 8:58 PM > > My friend and I are going to be doing a little work tomorrow on the D. One > of his rear wheels had come loose and he snuged it up.. How much torque > should the wheel bearings have? > Also, The engine is running rough untill it warms up. I know on my merc I > had to move the timeing up to correct for this. Should the D be the same? > and if so, what is a safe amount to move it up? > -=mike=- > > *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* > | http://www.poulincomm.com | > | http://www.WWJP.com | > *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > SPRING IS HERE - Wilson Sporting Goods! Jet Evolution Basketballs, > NFL Autograph Football, Conform Pitcher, Outfielder Glove. Full > Selection of golf clubs, skates, water sports, team sports equipment! > http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/147 > > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications >
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Interesting Clutch Problem Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:15:15 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Marc & Lee, Shortly after the DeLorean hit the streets the infamous "plastic clutch line" problems started popping up all over the country. In an effort to correct the problem an adjustable clutch pedal link was manufactured and supplied to dealers for replacement. (Service Bulletin No. ST-07-9/82). The problem was that in order to compensate for the loss of pedal action the link could be easily over adjusted this caused the master cylinder plunger to travel too far in the bore causing premature failure of the master cylinder. The adjustable link should only be considered as temporary, replacing the factory plastic line with the stainless braided is the only way to go.
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---------- > From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com> > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Re: Interesting Clutch Problem > Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 9:15 PM > > Some of us have a after market adjustable clutch link..... This may be > what was adjusted. > > > Lee wrote: > > > I sure would like to know what all these people are adjusting and why it > > only last for two weeks? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com >
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From: NELLYMAC1@aol.com Subject: [DML] owner Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:41:33 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi I ahve had my D for a couple of years and am looking for some info on its history ,it was sold to a G Mohi in LA in 1981 and was sold it seems by DMC .Does anyone know if this was a DMC only dealer or if the garage is still there and selling another brand ? Is there a G Mohi in a Delorean club or has anyone heard of him ? I have his address from 81 but dont want to pester him
any help?
Cheers from Scotland
Neil
2119
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Subject: [DML] Re: CLUTCH JOB Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:19:07 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Lance, Not to diminish your fine work at bleeding the clutch but I wanted to reply to your statement that "As you would be aware, the job would be impossible to accomplish unless the car is raised off the ground." We bleed the slave cylinder without ever getting under the car. The whole process takes us less than five minutes. Of course it does help that we do this all the time. I guess it has to do with how many ways to "skin a cat". Thanks for your input.
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---------- From: Lance R Haslewood <lanceh@zeta.org.au> To: dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: [DML] Re: CLUTCH JOB Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 7:36 PM
Lee,
Recently I had to replace the clutch becuse the plate disintergrated. While I had the clutch out, I decided to have the clutch slave cylinder re-sleeved because it had a slight weep. It also had some corrosion inside. I found bleeding the line and cylinder was not too difficult a job, just a bit fiddly. If I recall, a 5/32" ring/open-end spanner fitted neatly over the bleed valve (ring end). With this in place, I fitted a length of clear plastic tube over the end of the valve and placed the other end into a jar. I used about 4' of tubing. Enough to reach from the slave cylinder to the ground and with a bit to spare. With my son working the cluch pedal, I successfully bled the system. In fact, I completely changed the oil with new. I have a good strong pedal and the clutch works great.
As you would be aware, the job would be impossible to accomplish unless the car is raised off the ground. I had my 'D' on axle stands. Also if you lay on a creeper, this will give you more mobility whilst under the car and make the job a little easier for you. For illumination, I used a 240v trouble light which I managed to wedge up beside the bell housing.
I don't mean to be telling you how to suck eggs, but the bleeding process is quite simple. With the bleed valve closed, have somebody slowly pump the pedal a few times, and with the pedal held in, release the bleed valve. Make sure the person working the pedal does not release the pedal while you have the valve open. Keep repeating this process until all air is removed from the system and a good flow of fluid extrudes. During the process, you will notice clutch beginning to operate and the pedal becoming load bearing.
Lance
At 02:56 23/04/99 -0700, you wrote: >Hi to all our DML members, > >It's been a while sense my last post. > >My D has been laid up for the last couple of months with a broken clutch (5)
>speed. I lost all pedal just as I got home, and ended up pushing it up the >drive-way >and into the hanger. > >After checking the fluid level and finding it empty! and finding a stained >driver >side carpet indicating that the clutch master cylinder was probably the >problem, >I ordered one from PJ Grady. It took quite a while to get around to >starting the >repair because I thought it was going to be difficult and time consuming. > >It turned out that even with needing a second person to hold a Phillips to >remove >the two nuts, the whole remove and replace job took an hour. All that is >left is >the bleeding, > >The original unit look fine, although on the dirty side. I found some >indication of >wetness around the plunger but not the dripping I expected. When I opened the >seal end which on the original has a metal band holding the seal in place I >discovered >a rusty nasty wet mess. Removing the plunger requires the removing of a >snap ring. >Once cleaned up the plunger is installed in the new master cylinder, which >comes with a new snap ring. Installing the new master cylinder is easy >enough, as is the connecting of the >fluid fill hose and the hydraulic line back to the slave cylinder. > >Every time something breaks I get the feeling that the problem will never >be fixed, and every time I dive in I find that I enjoy working on my D, Now >all that's left is to bleed the lines. > >Well the bleeding is done and the clutch works! > >Now a question? > >Any one who has ever had to bleed the clutch line knows what a bitch it is >just to reach >and what a mess it makes, especially when a master cylinder is replaced and >you are faced with bleeding most of the line contents to get all the air out. > >I have come up with a single tool that will do the following: > >1. loosen the bleeder screw with out removing the Engine CVR or even >reaching behind the engine. > >2. collects all the Dot-4 as it is bled (spl?) off and puts in a container >and not the bell housing or floor. > >3. loosens and tightens the bleed screw during the bleeding cycle, again >with out requiring reaching down behind the engine and is used to tighten >screw when bleeding is complete. > >If you are interested in such an item please let me know via direct e-mail >using reply! just say "me too" > >TTFN > >Lee > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews >Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com > Lance Haslewood (Squadron Leader RAAFRSG) 45 Fullerton Crescent BLIGH PARK New South Wales Australia 2756 Ph: 61 2 4572 5281 (Home) Fax: 61 2 4572 5414 (Home) Cell: 0414 295 888 e-mail: lanceh@zeta.org.au Web Page: www.zeta.oeg.au/~lanceh/ Ph: 61 2 9840 8409 (Work) Fax: 61 2 9840 8414 (Work)
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From: "R. Starling" <doctor280@email.msn.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Door Glass Alignment Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:09:12 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The $5.00 side window repair details are now listed on my web sight.
http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/stainlesssteel/index.html
Keep The Dream Alive And Be Safe, Robert Starling Vin#5252
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From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Long Trips Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:55:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990424232239.0095ba30@207.95.192.54> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Lee wrote:
> And given all this the DMC loves a > winding two lane black to in the rolling hill. I don't know about others > who own DMC's but mine handles great on both open freeway and the winding > coast roads of California. > > Lee >
Over the weekend my friend and I put 300 miles on the D. It was a mix of city and highway. The D much prefers the highway as aposed to stop and go. The water temp would shoot up to 220 in a matter of minuts when we started goingfrom stop light to stop light. Once we got moving again, the temp would drop below 150 quickly. By design, it's just not ment to sit idel.
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From: "Ronald Pohala" <rpohala@luzerne.edu> Subject: [DML] Re: Radio inputs Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:11:42 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I also would like to put a high level CD player in WHich one would fit with minimum damage in case I ever wanted to go back to original. Hell I want good sounds and all my music is on CD now soon will be DVD.
Ron
William T Wilson wrote:
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From: raynet@home.net Subject: [DML] Re: Radio inputs X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [DML] Radio inputs X-Mailer: www.eGroups.com Message Poster MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <pid11991.1999.April.26.11:23.191578.@egroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:23:55 -0000 In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org> From: raynet@home.net To: dmcnews@egroups.com
<SNIP> Do either the Craig or the ASI radios have an auxiliary-in jack on them <SNIP>
As far as I know neither of them had an input. I do know that Alpine and JVC have units that have inputs and controls right on the tape player to control a CD Changer. Usually they will only work with their respective brands of CD Changers
Raymond McKay Network Administrator Funnybone Interactive
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From: DJRaich@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: Lo-Jack Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:35:49 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have Lo-Jac in a leased car. Haven't figured out yet why I did it except my insurance carrier reduced my premium relating to the value of the car by 10%. As the car has never been stolen, I have no idea how well it works, however, LAPD did make a big haul on cars stolen and being shipped out of the country in freight containers about a year or so ago. Located a couple of the cars by Lo Jac and found the rest of the stolen cars at the Los Angeles harbor. I don't think the cost ($450 negotiable) is necessarily worth installation in the Delorean as insurance would cover the loss and they seem to be readily available to be purchased for the foreseeable future. Just a thot.
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From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Radio inputs Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:17:28 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Kenwood makes a unit that fits in the stock location, and will control their CD changer units. Model: KRC-3006, sells for $179.95 in most places.
William T Wilson wrote: > > Do either the Craig or the ASI radios have an auxiliary-in jack on them > (for connecting an external CD player, for example)? If not, would anyone > have a recommendation for a replacement stereo that might include such a > thing? A tape player would be preferable to a CD player.
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From: Brian Henderlong <bhenderlong@mindspring.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:57:10 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <3724903E.73807841@luzerne.edu> References: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Anyone hear anything further about the DeLorean that was turned over by the rioting college students? Has anyone heard from the owner?
I'm curious to know what kind of service his/her insurance company is giving, whether there are any more pictures online, and whether any civil or criminal suits have been filed.
Just wondering,
Brian Henderlong mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com VIN#: working on it...
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From: Lee <lseiler@radiance.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Interesting Clutch Problem Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:52:38 -0700 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <19990426052514.DICN2244@494154526worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
At 01:15 AM 4/26/99 -0400, you wrote: >Marc & Lee, >Shortly after the DeLorean hit the streets the infamous "plastic clutch >line" problems started popping up all over the country. In an effort to >correct the problem an adjustable clutch pedal link was manufactured and >supplied to dealers for replacement. (Service Bulletin No. ST-07-9/82). The >problem was that in order to compensate for the loss of pedal action the >link could be easily over adjusted this caused the master cylinder plunger >to travel too far in the bore causing premature failure of the master >cylinder. The adjustable link should only be considered as temporary, >replacing the factory plastic line with the stainless braided is the only >way to go.
reply:
Joe,
So if I understand what you are saying, that some D's may have this adjustable part and this part can be over adjusted to compensate for loss of pedel which will cause the master cylinder to fail. Also that the stainless line is the correct and permanent fix for both?
I replaced my plastic line a while back so I expect the new master cylinder to last for a while. I also note that some owners report no problems in spite of the plastic line.
Lee
Lee 81DMC-12
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From: Lee <lseiler@radiance.com> Subject: [DML] Re: DMC Bulletin Board Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:02:58 -0700 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <001c01be8f52$e2d5b860$2d990cd1@scott> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
At 02:29 PM 4/25/99 -0500, you wrote: >Lee, Glad to hear that you are feeling better. > >For the benefit of those of us who keep messing up there PC's, would you >post the address for the DMC Bulletin Board/ > reply:
Sure Scott!
http://www.totalimmersion.com/dmcboard/index.html
I will also post the URL's for the up coming pictures and sample calendars once they are actually up.
Lee
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From: dtaylor2@neo.rr.com Subject: [DML] Jan. 1st X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Jan. 1st X-Mailer: www.eGroups.com Message Poster MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <pid24914.1999.April.26.11:14.641335.@egroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:14:28 -0000 In-Reply-To: From: dtaylor2@neo.rr.com To: dmcnews@egroups.com
I wanted to know if anyone knows if Y2K will affect the onboard computer in the "D"
Thanks...Donnie
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From: William T Wilson <fluffy@snurgle.org> Subject: [DML] Re: Jan. 1st Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:46:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <199904261926.PAA17211@lumberjack.snurgle.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 dtaylor2@neo.rr.com wrote:
> I wanted to know if anyone knows if Y2K will affect the onboard > computer in the "D"
I'll go out on a limb here and say that Y2K will affect the onboard computer in no or virtually no cars. We had a discussion about this a while back and it seems the criteria for a Y2K problem are:
Clock must be installed in system; System must care about clock output; Clock must be set to valid date.
I don't know whether the DMC-12 computer contains any clocks or not, but if it does, you can reset them to 1981 by disconnecting the battery. :}
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From: Sean Jones <shain@noln.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:24:03 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org> <3.0.1.32.19990426135710.006c311c@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello,
I never saw the first set of pictures. When i first went to it it was up yet. Then I lost the url. Can someone please repost it? Thanks.
- Shain
Brian Henderlong wrote:
> Anyone hear anything further about the DeLorean that was turned over by the > rioting college students? Has anyone heard from the owner? > > I'm curious to know what kind of service his/her insurance company is > giving, whether there are any more pictures online, and whether any civil > or criminal suits have been filed. > > Just wondering, > > Brian Henderlong > mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com > VIN#: working on it... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com
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From: Brian Metz <metz.50@osu.edu> Subject: [DML] Re: Radio inputs Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:48:54 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org > References: <199904240251.WAA08785@lumberjack.snurgle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>Do either the Craig or the ASI radios have an auxiliary-in jack on them >(for connecting an external CD player, for example)?
YOU CAN PURCHASE A CD CHANGER WITH AN FM MODULATOR IN IT. THIS IS WHAT I PLAN ON DOING FOR MY D IN A FEW MONTHS. A CHANGER WITH A MODULATOR WILL WORK WITH ANY STEREO THAT USES AN ANTENNA (HENCE EVERY CAR STEREO). IT PLUGS INTO THE ANTENNA JACK AND THEN THE ANTENNA PLUGS INTO IT. THEREFORE, YOU CAN STILL HAVE YOUR AM'FM RADIO - CASSETTE PLAYER (ORIGINAL) AND A CD PLAYER/CHANGER!!! BRIAN 16584 BY THE WAY THESE ARE VERY POPULAR AND CAN BE PURCHASED FOR AS LOW AS $150.00
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From: Donald - SA Intern <saintern@peri.com> Subject: [DML] delorean on M2 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:15:39 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Just to let everyone know there was a delorean featured today(April 26th)on MTV's sister station "M2". It had the women who presents the videos sitting on top of one of the cars from "BTTF". Didn't have time to listen to get any background on why it was on there but i did catch a big "BTTF" banner in the background. Any idea why there would be one of these cars in NYC at the MTV studio's? Did anyone get the chance to catch it?
Donald Kazmark
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From: Brian Metz <metz.50@osu.edu> Subject: [DML] Re: Jan. 1st Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:02:25 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <19990426192517.21577.qmail@orb1.osu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>I wanted to know if anyone knows if Y2K will affect the onboard computer in the "D" > > Thanks...Donnie
I HOPE YOU ARE KIDDING. ALL THE COMPUTER DOES IS TAKE THE READINGS THAT THE SENSORS ARE CURRENTLY SENDING TO IT AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS ACCORDINGLY. THE COMPUNTER COULDN'T CARE LESS WHAT THE DATE IS.
BRIAN #16584
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From: Brian Henderlong <bhenderlong@mindspring.com> Subject: [DML] custom DeLorean pic Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:09:26 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
There's a picture of an interesting custom DeLorean at:
http://home.t-online.de/home/Klaus.Steiner/meet98.htm
The car is red and the taillights have been replaced with those of a Ferrari! Looks very strange! Also, the louvers have been removed.
Check it out,
Brian Henderlong mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com VIN#: working on it...
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From: "Dave Price" <davep2@clipper.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Radio inputs Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:49:17 -0700 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ References: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Do either the Craig or the ASI radios have an auxiliary-in jack on them > (for connecting an external CD player, for example)? If not, would anyone > have a recommendation for a replacement stereo that might include such a > thing? A tape player would be preferable to a CD player. >
Here are the websites for the generic aux-input capable car stereos that I've found:
www.poweracoustik.com www.blaupunkt.com www.audiovox.com www.panasonic.com
Radio Shack also sells a shaft-mount unit with a front-panel aux in, but their website doesn't have any info; I saw it in a recent mailer.
Besides Radio Shack, and a couple Audiovox units, you'll have to cut a hole in your console face to fit the stereo. This isn't that bad if you have a small rotary tool, a steady hand, and a cutting disc. The Blaupunkt units have the aux-input in the back which is much nicer for my setup. I have a Blaupunkt Apsen and a laptop playing MP3s connected to the rear.
Good luck!
- Dave
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From: "Frank Lommen" <j.m.s.c.lommen@hccnet.nl> Subject: [DML] No Subject Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:32:08 +0200 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello everyone,
Can anyone give me the E-mail adress to Darryl Tinnerstet from Olympia, WA. I lost everything during a HDD Crash.
Thanx
Frenkie
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From: Brian Henderlong <bhenderlong@mindspring.com> Subject: [DML] Raffled DMC Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:54:29 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does anyone know if the DeLorean being raffled off at:
http://www.piusxi.org/DeLorean.html
was actually won? The raffle was supposed to be last month. It'd be interesting to know who got the car and how many tickets they bought (i.e., how much they "paid" for it!). Anybody hear what happened?
Brian Henderlong mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com VIN#: working on it...
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From: Martin Gutkowski <martin.is@connect-2.co.uk> Subject: [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:53:25 +0100 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org> <3.0.1.32.19990426135710.006c311c@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dear Brian,
I have forwarded all the advice people have generously put up on the DML, but my original post was a couple of weeks after Clare first contacted me due to the problems with the DML. Unfortunately she hasn't replied - maybe it's something to do with her term-times (maybe she's gone home to Ireland), but I will certainly keep you all posted.
I too never saw those pictures, as I think Clare didn't either!
Martin
Brian Henderlong wrote:
> Anyone hear anything further about the DeLorean that was turned over by the > rioting college students? Has anyone heard from the owner? > > I'm curious to know what kind of service his/her insurance company is > giving, whether there are any more pictures online, and whether any civil > or criminal suits have been filed. > > Just wondering, > > Brian Henderlong > mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com > VIN#: working on it... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com
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From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Raffled DMC Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:11:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990426165429.006f1078@pop.mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
as a PS I've just sent an e-mail to one of the guys in charge of the auction. I'll pass any info on to the list that I get. -=mike=-
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From: Joe Capasso <capasso@cyberenet.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Raffled DMC Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:37:07 -0500 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3.0.1.32.19990426165429.006f1078@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I purchased a DeLorean raffle ticket from Chad Sorce. The cost was $40. My ticket number was 504. At the time, Chad Sorce had said that he expected to sell at least another 100 tickets. I recently e-mailed him asking him who won. His response was that he will post the results on the web page as soon as he recieves permission from the winner to use her name in public. He said, "All I can tell you right now is the winner came from Honey Creek Wisc." I doubt the whole thing was a scam, but I do feel that her name should be posted with a picture of her standing next to her prize....
Joe capasso@cyberenet.net VIN: I wish...
Henderlong wrote:
> Does anyone know if the DeLorean being raffled off at: > > http://www.piusxi.org/DeLorean.html > > was actually won? The raffle was supposed to be last > month. It'd be interesting to know who got the car and > how many tickets they bought (i.e., how much they "paid" > for it!). Anybody hear what happened? > > Brian Henderlong > mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com > VIN#: working on it... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com
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From: Jimbo0946@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: Radio inputs Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:48:32 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have hooked up a 10 disc CD changer and mounted it on the rear shelf. Hook up is a snap to the origional radio. Sounds great too. And if I needed to take it out for origionality, about five minutes.
JimmyC VIN# 15880
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From: David Sontos <dsontos@sybercom.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Long Trips Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:59:15 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990426114037.26783B-100000@linux2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Mike, If your D reaches 220, I bet your fans are NOT coming on. Check your fan diode located in the relay comparment. My D never gets above 150 on the gage. When it warms up I can hear the fans cut in and watch the temp gage drop 5-10 degrees and then they cut out.
Michel Poulin wrote:
> Over the weekend my friend and I put 300 miles on the D. It was a mix of > city and highway. The D much prefers the highway as aposed to stop and go. > The water temp would shoot up to 220 in a matter of minuts when we > started goingfrom stop light to stop light. Once we got moving again, the > temp would drop below 150 quickly. By design, it's just not ment to sit > idel. >
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From: NELLYMAC1@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: Radio inputs Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:25:06 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
ron I fitted a Sonycdx81 to my Delorean the head unit fitted with no adjustment and the auto changer fits perfectly under the bonnet (vertical against the bulk head) the problem I had was the rear speakers .They are so hard to get too ,and after you do the original Craig ones are such an odd shape! I had to spend a few weeks making new cradles for them from "Plastimole" The result though was great and I kept all the old stuff to keep everyone happy if I ever sell!
Neil in Scotland
Vin 2119
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From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Raffled DMC Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:05:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990426165429.006f1078@pop.mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I called up their office a day before the rafel and used my credit card to pay $100 for three tickets. I asked for confermation via e-mail of the ticket numbers. I neither got confermation, nor have I seen the charge on my credit card bill. Last I looked, they hadn't updated their web page with any of the information they stated that they would provide. (reason I waited so long to get my tickets, I was waiting for the illusive info.) I too would be interested in finding out the dirt on that car. -=mike=-
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On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Brian Henderlong wrote:
> Does anyone know if the DeLorean being raffled off at: > > http://www.piusxi.org/DeLorean.html > > was actually won? The raffle was supposed to be last > month. It'd be interesting to know who got the car and
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From: sundiver@discordia.org Subject: [DML] Re: Jan. 1st Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:46:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904261545070.2804-100000@benatar.snurgle.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 26-Apr-99 William T Wilson wrote: > On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 dtaylor2@neo.rr.com wrote: > >> I wanted to know if anyone knows if Y2K will affect the onboard >> computer in the "D" > > I'll go out on a limb here and say that Y2K will affect the onboard > computer in no or virtually no cars. We had a discussion about this a > while back and it seems the criteria for a Y2K problem are: > > Clock must be installed in system; > System must care about clock output; > Clock must be set to valid date. > > I don't know whether the DMC-12 computer contains any clocks or not, but > if it does, you can reset them to 1981 by disconnecting the battery. :} >
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I was under the impression that the DeLorean doesn't have any computers as we normally think of them. At least nothing with a microprocessor and memory. Just some ciruits that work as parts of feedback loops in the engine control system.
- J
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From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4@osu.edu> Subject: [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:56:46 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <Pine.LNX.4.04.9904260324490.994-100000@benatar.snurgle.org> <3.0.1.32.19990426135710.006c311c@pop.mindspring.com> <3724D245.1B600B77@connect-2.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dear List,
The site where the pictures of the wreck were supposed to be
(http://www.angelfire.com/mi2/delorean/index2.html) was setup weird. I don't
know how they worked it, but when I clicked on the hyperlinked text, all I got
was a blank page. My brother advised me that if I typed in the word
"toolbar.html" over where "index2.html" was in the address that it would then
work, and it did. I then got to the photo gallery page where the pictures were
supposed to be, and they were not there. I asked the owner of that page to send
me a copy of the pix via e-mail, but when he sent them, they arrived in an
unreadable format. The specific error I got was "invalid header". I don't know
what this means, but I know that the picture would not open up.
I got tired of the wild goose chase, so I got on the East Lansing police
station site, and viewed the picture they had of the tragedy. They also included
a copyright notice on the picture, so you'll have to go to that site and check it
out for yourself. I hope my URL listing works! By the way, it's only worth
seeing if you feel like getting really upset over the wanton destruction of the
most fabulous car ever built. (reminiscent of the tragic scene at the end of BTTF
III)
Never-the-less, perhaps viewing it will encourage us all to further understand
the importance of a good safe parking place for our one-of-a-kind cars at all
times. It will have been a total loss only if we fail to learn nothing from it!
http://www.ci.east-lansing.mi.us/Riot/images/1413.jpg
-Josh
VIN 5102
Martin Gutkowski wrote:
> Dear Brian, > > I have forwarded all the advice people have generously put up on the DML, but > my original post was a couple of weeks after Clare first contacted me due to > the problems with the DML. Unfortunately she hasn't replied - maybe it's > something to do with her term-times (maybe she's gone home to Ireland), but I > will certainly keep you all posted. > > I too never saw those pictures, as I think Clare didn't either! > > Martin > > Brian Henderlong wrote: > > > Anyone hear anything further about the DeLorean that was turned over by the > > rioting college students? Has anyone heard from the owner? > > > > I'm curious to know what kind of service his/her insurance company is > > giving, whether there are any more pictures online, and whether any civil > > or criminal suits have been filed. > > > > Just wondering, > > > > Brian Henderlong > > mailto:bhenderlong@mindspring.com > > VIN#: working on it... > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > > Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Raffled DMC Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:07:28 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sounds like this raffle story is getting very interesting. Keep us posted.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com> > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Re: Raffled DMC > Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 8:05 PM > > I called up their office a day before the rafel and used my credit card > to pay $100 for three tickets. I asked for confermation via e-mail of the > ticket numbers. I neither got confermation, nor have I seen the charge on > my credit card bill. Last I looked, they hadn't updated their web page > with any of the information they stated that they would provide. (reason I > waited so long to get my tickets, I was waiting for the illusive info.) > I too would be interested in finding out the dirt on that car. > -=mike=- > > *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* > | http://www.poulincomm.com | > | http://www.WWJP.com | > *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* > > On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Brian Henderlong wrote: > > > Does anyone know if the DeLorean being raffled off at: > > > > http://www.piusxi.org/DeLorean.html > > > > was actually won? The raffle was supposed to be last > > month. It'd be interesting to know who got the car and > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com >
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Subject: [DML] Re: loose steering Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:33:30 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Neil, The fix is to replace the bushing with a new one. To replace it you don't remove the steering wheel, you remove the steering column.
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---------- > From: NELLYMAC1@aol.com > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Re: loose steering > Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 10:31 PM > > I have the exact opposite ! my steering is really tight and a squeaking noise > is louder than the stereo will go! If I point the car round a tight corner I > can take my hands of the wheel ,lay down and have a nice cup of tea, forty > winks ,read a book and the car still keeps the same track ( a real party > trick to scare them all ) I know there is a problem but I,m sure its just the > bush where the colum goes through the bulk head > Does anyone know a fix as to be honest the last time I went to tackle the
> problem I spent a few hours without getting the steering wheel off !! > > help would be helpful! > Neil in Scotland > VIN#2119 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Why are most stock sites so slow and annoying to use? StockMaster.com > is fast, easy, powerful, and free! Use company names, not ticker > symbols. Track your portfolio. Visit: http://clickhere/egroups.com/click/65 > > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications >
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Lo-Jack Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:37:40 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Installing a Lo-Jack system in a DeLorean is like wearing a parachute on a major airline. Insurance company statistics indicate that car thieves avoid exotic cars especially the DeLorean.
The Lo-Jack system is without a doubt the best vehicle recovery system available, it should be no more difficult to install in a DeLorean than in any other car, I just don't think it would ever be used.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: Paraversal@aol.com > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Lo-Jack > Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 10:51 PM > > I was just wondering if any owners out there have had the Lo-Jack vehicle
> recovery system installed in their DeLorean, and what the real benefits of > the system are. For those of you who are unfamiliar with Lo-Jack, it is NOT > an alarm system, but more of a homing device that the police use to track
> stolen cars. If your car is stolen with a Lo-Jack system on board, they will > track it and the police will retrieve it. Now honestly I do not like to > change my DeLorean in the slightest. I really wouldn't want many changes made > to the car. Does anyone out there have this installed on their DeLorean? What > do you think of it. > > Thanks, > > Curious Justin > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Show mom you love her. Check out our great Mother's Day Gifts! > 14K Gold and gemstone jewelry, leather and cloth wallets and purses, > gardening, gourmet, kitchen, more! Free Shipping in the US! > http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/142 > > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications >
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Long Trips Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:04:27 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Michel, The problem with your cooling system is air trapped in the coolant lines. Air bleed the cooling system and your "D" will run nice and cool.
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> > Michel Poulin wrote: > > > Over the weekend my friend and I put 300 miles on the D. It was a mix of > > city and highway. The D much prefers the highway as aposed to stop and go. > > The water temp would shoot up to 220 in a matter of minuts when we > > started goingfrom stop light to stop light. Once we got moving again, the > > temp would drop below 150 quickly. By design, it's just not ment to sit > > idel. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com >
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From: MCCOMBC@dteenergy.com Subject: [DML] Prototype Date: 27 Apr 99 07:45:17 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Saw the same "#2 prototype" car at a Detroit auction over the week-end. It is the same car that was purchased by a Detroit car dealer at the Las Vegas auction for $10,000. It has sliding windows...a differently designed engine cover...front air intake, etc. Bidding for the car did not meet the reserve but I noticed from the "still for sale" tag placed on the car after the bidding had ended that the dealer who owns it is now asking $14,000. Pretty inexpensive for a major piece of automotive history (I guess I'm biased). There appeared to be mainly dealers at this auction so they were not interested in this kind of investment and most of the non-dealer types at the auction could have been put off by the ill fitting doors and body panels, etc. although the car was drawing a lot of lookers.
Cliff McComb Detroit, MI VIN # 11546
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Interesting Clutch Problem Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:21:39 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lee, Concerning owners who say they have no problems with the plastic clutch line, I present the following challenge.
Drive your "D" for at least one hour during a hot summer day; 95 degrees F plus. Than enter a big city downtown traffic jam with stop & go traffic for another hour. If at that point you can shift the car without gear clash or not being able to shift gears at all, I would be very surprised.
The fact of the matter is that the plastic line will start to expand under very high heat conditions and constant pedal action.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com>
---------- > From: Lee <lseiler@radiance.com> > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Re: Interesting Clutch Problem > Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 12:52 PM > > At 01:15 AM 4/26/99 -0400, you wrote: > >Marc & Lee, > >Shortly after the DeLorean hit the streets the infamous "plastic clutch > >line" problems started popping up all over the country. In an effort to > >correct the problem an adjustable clutch pedal link was manufactured and > >supplied to dealers for replacement. (Service Bulletin No. ST-07-9/82). The > >problem was that in order to compensate for the loss of pedal action the > >link could be easily over adjusted this caused the master cylinder plunger > >to travel too far in the bore causing premature failure of the master > >cylinder. The adjustable link should only be considered as temporary, > >replacing the factory plastic line with the stainless braided is the only > >way to go. > > reply: > > Joe, > > So if I understand what you are saying, that some D's may have this > adjustable part and this part can be over adjusted to compensate for loss > of pedel which will cause the master cylinder to fail. > Also that the stainless line is the correct and permanent fix for both? > > I replaced my plastic line a while back so I expect the new master > cylinder to last > for a while. I also note that some owners report no problems in spite of > the plastic line. > > Lee > > > > Lee > 81DMC-12 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com >
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From: Paraversal@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: Upside-down DMC Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:45:05 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I just wanted to invite everybody to my new page with pics of the turned over DeLorean that was vandalized during the East Lansing Riot. It is a very archaic site and I cant promise that all of the pics are working at the moment, but none-the-less its up. They are there for you to enjoy so please feel free to stop by. You may visit it at:
http://members.xoom.com/PipelineRecs/dmchome.html
Enjoy,
Justin
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From: LHEMB@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: Dash Board Cover Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:14:04 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I ordered a very nice dashboard cover for my D about four years ago through Pep Boys in Jax, Fla. As I recall it only cost $35.00. It is gray to match my interior, and still looks like new. It has really protected my dash; it still looks like new. Brian McCabe, Santa Rosa Beach, Fla. auto D #5830
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From: Carororo@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: Chrome Wheels Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:03:32 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Josh- Try a plating company. My husband and I used to have a small paint shop, and some of our items (like the brush covers for floor cleaning machines) were chrome plated . We gave a clear finish to the underside. You can probably find someone that you know who has a connection. Carol
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From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Door Struts Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:28:18 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <37266C4B.3C94@pathway.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
All of the DeLorean service centers sell the door struts.
If you strut is old, replace them first. If that does not fix it, then you need to have it adjusted.
Adjusting the doors should be done by someone who knows what they are doing, and has the right tools. Many have smashed their back window trying to adjust the doors improperly.
cooney@pathway.net wrote: > > I have a sagging passenger door which seems to be more affected by cold > weather. Two questions: How do I know this is the strut and not the > adjustment, second, where is the best place to purchase door struts, > preferably heavy duty cold weather types. I read of a supplier of > similar struts but cannot find it in the archives. Thanks. > > Mike > #2467
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From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: [DML] Re: RV: Need Tech Info. Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:25:10 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <00a101be9117$e86103e0$028619d4@robot> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
There is a lot of information in the archives on Turbos.
The "official" turbo delorean was built by Legend Industries. The car never made it to production, but there are a few prototype cars still around. They are usually expensive.
There are a number of turbo kits for add on to the PRV6. I have the Island twin turbo kit, which is a twin turbo setup.
Most of the turbo kit's are limited to 6lbs to avoid ring damage to the engine. The spec's of the Island drop the 0-60 time from 10 seconds to 7 seconds.
Most of the delorean service centers have their favorite turbo kit to install. Most of the kits I have seen are single turbo. I have never rode in one, but I am told that the performance of twin VS single is about the same. The single turbo is obviously cheaper.
I recently spoke to Don at Delorean Motor Center, and it sounds like he is currently working on modern improvements to his turbo setup.
I have heard of no major brake improvements to the DMC. One of the list members sells braided brake lines, and others have tried drilled rotors. I am not an advocate of drilled rotors, but I do have the set of the brake lines. It was a minor improvement I would recommend to anyone who has 18 year old rubber lines.
> Daniel Delmastro Luriaud wrote: > > Hi All! > > I'm interested to buy my D. soon (5 speed) and I need to know few > technical aspects of the car, and these are: Exist any "oficial" or > "legal" version of the Turbo DMC 12?, May be some "Twin Turbo" > version?, If the answer is NO, could somebody tell me if is possible > to make this adaptation to the original PRV engine, and may be give me > an idea of how much this operation could cost?, and, what turbo brand > could be better?. May be I will need better brake system, it is > possible to fit an ABS to the D.?. Thanks a lot in advance and receive > a warm greeting! > > Daniel > dandelluri@ctv.es
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Stalling, etc,- Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:47:36 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hesitation when turning or stopping is an indication of a problem with the fuel baffle. You said you replaced the pick-up hose and it lies flat on the bottom of the tank, it should be attached to the fuel baffle. Some cars that have been serviced by non DeLorean service centers have had the baffle removed. Make sure that, first, you have a fuel baffle and secondly be sure that it is installed correctly.
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---------- > From: mbslaw@webtv.net > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Stalling, etc,- > Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 11:10 PM > > I have just gotten almost all of the bugs out of #2904 that I bought last fall except when the gas tank is down to 4-5 gals the car begins to stall out when I corner sharply > or stop suddely. We replaced the fuel pump and soft with age intake fuel hose making sure the new one lies flat on the bottom of the tank .Gas filter looks ok but with small hole/opening. > Secondly, brake pedal goes to floor on some "panic" stops > only ,fine rest of the time. > Help,suggestions? > Michael (D Lore N)(fla plate) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Does your free web site address contain more letters than the alphabet? > Register a domain name with DomainDirect. A domain with NO hosting fees. > Visit http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/49 for full details. > > > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications >
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From: WtrResQ@aol.com Subject: [DML] (DML Stalling... Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 03:48:24 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Michael writes:
I have just gotten almost all of the bugs out of #2904 that I bought last
fall except when the gas tank is down to 4-5 gals the car begins to stall
out when I corner sharply
or stop suddely. We replaced the fuel pump and soft with age intake fuel
hose making sure the new one lies flat on the bottom of the tank .Gas filter
looks ok but with small hole/opening.
Secondly, brake pedal goes to floor on some "panic" stops
only ,fine rest of the time.
Help,suggestions?
Michael (D Lore N)(fla plate)
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Michael, i think that the problem you have is the same thing i had with my
car. the "filter that i think you are referring to is actually called a
baffel. the important thing here is that the hole in the middle is to secure
it to the bottom of the fuel tank. mine actually ran out of gas on me with a
little over half a tank of fuel. what you need to do is, with half a tank of
fuel, feel down into the tank through the fuel pump hole, and feel for a bolt
at the bottom of the tank. there should be a 10mm nut in there too, although
there wasnt one in my tank, that secures the baffle to the nut. what was
happening was the baffle began to float in the fuel after the fuel was being
used.
good luck, james (stainls)
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From: William T Wilson <fluffy@snurgle.org> Subject: [DML] Re: RV: Need Tech Info. Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:40:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <00a101be9117$e86103e0$028619d4@robot> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Daniel Delmastro Luriaud wrote:
> I'm interested to buy my D. soon (5 speed) and I need to know few > technical aspects of the car, and these are: Exist any "oficial" or > "legal" version of the Turbo DMC 12?, May be some "Twin Turbo"
There were factory prototypes of a twin turbo setup for the DeLorean which was, like almost everything else about the car, way ahead of its time. It included computer-controlled boost (common on modern cars, not so much in the early 1980s) and probably produced well in excess of 200 HP. Unfortunately, this model of DeLorean was scheduled for 1984 year production and was never built, except as prototypes. Steve Wynne at DMC Houston has one. This is called the "Legend" turbo.
You can get an aftermarket turbo upgrade setup called the "Island" turbo. It is made by Eleanor Rogers at Turbo Manifold in... Ohio? The 2nd dmcnews.com 'zine' has lots of information on this. It is modeled after the Legend turbo kit, but is less advanced. Unlike the prototypes, it has no boost controller (AFAIK) and no intercoolers. There was some musings on the list about intercooling the Island kit (or adapting them to a totally different turbo engine) a couple months ago, and one of the list members made some preliminary (and quite good) drawings, but nothing ever came of it.
The Island kit comes (or used to) in two versions, one with catalytic converters and one without. The one without may no longer be available, I don't know for sure. The one with converters passes emissions and the one without doesn't, usually. These versions run fairly low boost pressure of about 6-7 lbs and have a correspondingly low increase in HP. It used to be said that the Island kit made just about exactly 200 HP, but the current conventional wisdom is that it's probably somewhat less than that - maybe 170 or 180 HP. It is still an improvement over the stock 130+HP and moves the powerband up in the RPM range, which also helps. I believe the Island kit costs about $3000-$4000. It's supposedly a pretty straightforward bolt-on conversion, but I've never installed one myself.
> could be better?. May be I will need better brake system, it is > possible to fit an ABS to the D.?. Thanks a lot in advance and receive
The DeLorean brakes are adequate for normal street driving, and there aren't many people who race DeLoreans, so brake upgrades are few and far between. I haven't found any, and as usual, the first guy that does something like this gets to do all the work for everybody else. ;)
Note that this does not mean they don't exist, but simply that I haven't found them on the web or on the smattering of brake-related shops I've talked to.
The brakes of choice, at least for me, are Porsche, and I think your eventual choice in brake upgrades would depend on what else you're upgrading. If you change out the wheels too (which can be done) then you may find enough space in there for big 14" vented rotors; rotors are more or less all the same (in that they are round and bolt on in the middle) and a good machine shop can attach just about any rotor to just about any braking assembly, as long as it will physically fit in the wheel. If you want to keep the stock wheels, the size of the front wheels is the limiting factor, since front brakes are more important.
You'll need new calipers too; get calipers from the same sort of car you got the rotors off of, so it all fits nicely, and have your speed shop of choice attach it. Take lots of measurements so everything fits, and be prepared to spend a lot. Your new calipers will probably demand new cylinders too, but, to be honest, that's the easy part. :} Just be sure you don't kill yourself getting everything straightened out since your cylinders must all be properly sized. Choice of good calipers from a high-performance car will also supply you with a wide variety of performance brake pads.
I could recommend ultimategarage.com as a place to start if you're serious about serious brakes. Their stuff is pricey, but they would probably be willing to do most of this custom work.
As for ABS, I would stay away from it. Although ABS is a fairly valuable safety feature, it is extremely difficult to add to a car as an aftermarket upgrade. Note that ABS doesn't really reduce your stopping distance, but instead simply reduces the risk of losing control of the car in a skid.
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From: "Marc Barth" <d16y8@hotmail.com> Subject: [DML] Re: RV: Need Tech Info. Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:06:52 PDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'm not sure what you mean by "legal" or "official" version but you can turbocharge just about any car. Depending on how much boost you want to run will determine the cost and difficulty of installation. You'll need to have a machine shop make custom exhaust manifolds to bolt up a turbo(s). Unless there is an aftermarket kit that I am unaware of. Garrett and Turbonetics are a good place to start looking for turbos. You'll need a wastegate, blow off valve, and an intercooler if you want to run more than 5psi(recommended). If you have any more questions let me know.
>From: "Daniel Delmastro Luriaud" <dandelluri@ctv.es> >Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com >To: "DeLorean Mail List" <dmcnews@egroups.com> >Subject: [DML] RV: Need Tech Info. >Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 02:37:48 +0100 > >Hi All! > >I'm interested to buy my D. soon (5 speed) and I need to know few technical aspects of the car, and these are: Exist any "oficial" or "legal" version of the Turbo DMC 12?, May be some "Twin Turbo" version?, If the answer is NO, could somebody tell me if is possible to make this adaptation to the original PRV engine, and may be give me an idea of how much this operation could cost?, and, what turbo brand could be better?. May be I will need better brake system, it is possible to fit an ABS to the D.?. Thanks a lot in advance and receive a warm greeting! > >Daniel >dandelluri@ctv.es > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Does your free web site address contain more letters than the alphabet? >Register a domain name with DomainDirect. A domain with NO hosting fees. >Visit http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/49 for full details. > > >eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews >http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications >
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From: "Marc Barth" <d16y8@hotmail.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Brake master cylinder rebuild kit Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:07:56 PDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Yes it is definitely your master cylinder. This exact problem happened to me on a Volvo I used to own.
>From: "Duke" <at88mph@mobis.com> >Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com >To: <dmcnews@egroups.com> >Subject: [DML] Brake master cylinder rebuild kit >Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:21:35 -0500 > >The other day I was driving along and when I hit the brakes, the pedal went >all the way to the floor. I hit it again and it was fine. (since that >first time, it has only happened one other time but I'm not going to take >any chances) Does anyone know where I can get a brake master cylinder >rebuild kit from? I've got the Girling part number for it (SP7243) but no >one has it! If not, does anyone know what other car used the same brake >master cylinder? I've also got the number for the master cylinder (74660518 >& 74066116) but I can't find these anywhere either. Any help would be >greatly appreciated. > > >Thanks, > > >Duke > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Does your free web site address contain more letters than the alphabet? >Register a domain name with DomainDirect. A domain with NO hosting fees. >Visit http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/49 for full details. > > >eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews >http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > >
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From: "Marc Barth" <d16y8@hotmail.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Stalling, etc,- Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:07:56 PDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
If you brake pedal is going to the floor it is probably your master cylinder. If you replace your fuel pump and hoses check to see if your injectors need cleaning.
>From: mbslaw@webtv.net >Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com >To: dmcnews@egroups.com >Subject: [DML] Stalling, etc,- >Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 03:10:00 -0000 > >I have just gotten almost all of the bugs out of #2904 that I bought last fall except when the gas tank is down to 4-5 gals the car begins to stall out when I corner sharply >or stop suddely. We replaced the fuel pump and soft with age intake fuel hose making sure the new one lies flat on the bottom of the tank .Gas filter looks ok but with small hole/opening. >Secondly, brake pedal goes to floor on some "panic" stops >only ,fine rest of the time. >Help,suggestions? > Michael (D Lore N)(fla plate) > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Does your free web site address contain more letters than the alphabet? >Register a domain name with DomainDirect. A domain with NO hosting fees. >Visit http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/49 for full details. > > >eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews >http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > >
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From: LovDMC12@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: The Bricklin Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:29:41 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Pedar,
The Bricklin came with two different engines. Some have a Ford 351 CID Windsor and some have an AMC 360 CID. I've never actually seen one, but I know some folks who have. From what I've gathered, Bricklins suffered from a quality problem. I believe this probably sealed their fate. That and the fact that Malcolm Bricklin was a rich man who had no experience in the car business like DeLorean had. I think Bricklin's company simply ran out of money.
The Organization of Bricklin Owners is having a gathering September 16-18 at the Charlotte, NC Speedway to celebrate the Bricklin's 25th anniversary. I'm going to try and go one day just so that I can see a Bricklin SV1 for myself and compare it to my DeLorean. This event is advertised in "Hemmings Motor News." The man to contact is Joseph F. DeLorenzo at 716-247-1575. He can probably tell you some sites and give you some info on events relating to the Bricklin like the one I mentioned.
I hope this helps.
Brian VIN 1597
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Mike Substenly Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:13:49 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sean, Mike's e mail is msubstel@lorainccc.edu
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---------- > From: Sean Jones <shain@noln.com> > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Mike Substenly > Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 8:32 PM > > Hello, > > Can i get mike substenly's e-mail address? > > - Shain > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Why are most stock sites so slow and annoying to use? StockMaster.com > is fast, easy, powerful, and free! Use company names, not ticker > symbols. Track your portfolio. Visit: http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/65 > > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications >
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Subject: [DML] Re: RV: Need Tech Info. Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:26:22 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Daniel, Turbo Manifold Co. out of Natick MA manufactures an excellent twin turbo for the DeLorean. Contact them at 800 449-1248 for information. There is no ABS brake system available.
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---------- From: Daniel Delmastro Luriaud <dandelluri@ctv.es> To: DeLorean Mail List <dmcnews@egroups.com> Subject: [DML] RV: Need Tech Info. Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 9:37 PM
Hi All!
I'm interested to buy my D. soon (5 speed) and I need to know few technical aspects of the car, and these are: Exist any "oficial" or "legal" version of the Turbo DMC 12?, May be some "Twin Turbo" version?, If the answer is NO, could somebody tell me if is possible to make this adaptation to the original PRV engine, and may be give me an idea of how much this operation could cost?, and, what turbo brand could be better?. May be I will need better brake system, it is possible to fit an ABS to the D.?. Thanks a lot in advance and receive a warm greeting!
Daniel dandelluri@ctv.es
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From: ABatt10347@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel Tank Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:01:30 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To remove the tank. Take off the fuel tank closing plate (part # 101716). I think there are about 20 or 21 bolts to remove. Tank slides out from the bottom. Be sure and take care with the foam attached ( parts 106686, 106689,106711,106687, and 106688.) to the tank. These need to be put back in with the cleaned out tank. Bruce Battles Vin 6569
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel Tank Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:08:47 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Luke, DON'T REMOVE THE TANK. It is not necessary to remove the tank for cleaning. the entire interior of the tank can be accessed through the fuel pump opening. It does help to have slender arms to reach the far corners of the tank. If you must remove the tank there are 6 foam rubber mounts surrounding the tank, these mounts adhere to the adjoining frame pieces with age. You will have to scrape these pieces away in order to remove the tank. Removing the tank is no advantage to cleaning it is very labor intensive and is not necessary.
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---------- > From: Luke.Sandel@cmich.edu > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Fuel Tank > Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 9:26 PM > > In my quest to clean up the fuel system, a tank scrubbing is in order. But... I > can't get the thing out. Everything has been removed (pump, sender, plumbing, > and access cover) but the tank won't budge an inch. Aside from climbing in the > trunk and jumping up and down on it, are there any tricks to getting this thing > out? So far I've tried pushing, pulling, shoving, hitting, wrenching and > swearing and so far swearing has been the only thing that makes any difference > (makes me feel better at least :). > > Thanks for any help, > Luke > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Too much effort to find the stock info you want each day? StockMaster > lets you enter a company name and quickly shows you a daily quote, > chart, and news all on one page. Free! http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/71 > > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications >
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Door Struts Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:21:58 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Mike, Purchase replacement struts from PJ Grady or DMC Houston. Install the new strut on the sagging door, if the door goes all the way up than you have corrected the problem, if it continues to sag you will need a torsion bar adjustment.
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---------- > From: cooney@pathway.net > To: dmcnews@eGroups.com > Subject: [DML] Door Struts > Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 10:02 PM > > I have a sagging passenger door which seems to be more affected by cold > weather. Two questions: How do I know this is the strut and not the > adjustment, second, where is the best place to purchase door struts, > preferably heavy duty cold weather types. I read of a supplier of > similar struts but cannot find it in the archives. Thanks. > > Mike > #2467 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Does your free web site address contain more letters than the alphabet? > Register a domain name with DomainDirect. A domain with NO hosting fees. > Visit http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/49 for full details. > > > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications >
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Subject: [DML] Re: engine removeing Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:47:42 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Michel, Form-a-gasket was never used at the factory, all the engines left the engine manufacturing plant in Douvrain France completely assembled with factory gaskets in place. When they arrived at the DMC plant they were installed as is, all that was necessary was to attach electric's and plumbing.
To completely remove the engine follow the procedures at C:04:01 in the Workshop Manual.
The PRV is an extremely well sealed engine, most oil leaks occur at the oil sender, change this item and its seal and you may find that your oil leak will go away.
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---------- > From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com> > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] engine removeing > Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 1:03 PM > > The D I've been working on (I really do need to get the vin for you > guys) leaks a bit of oil. To look at the gaskits around the timeing chain > cover and the oil-pan, it looks like the red form-a-gaskit some people use > on their valve covers. We've heard that this was done at the factory with > the expectation that these cars would come in for service and have the > real gaskits installed, but not all of the cars returned in time. (very > early '81) We have the kit to replace the gaskits and have been thinking > that we could either try to lift the engine up a few inches at the back w/ > the mount bolts removed, OR (prefered) remove the engine. In looking at > the car, it looks like it would make for a simple job to remove the engine > by removeing the back of the car. Are we at least on the right track? All > of the other engines I've removed have been out of larger cars with much > more clearance around the engine to get it out of the hood area. > Any info would be helpful. The engine has just over 9k miles on it and > we'd like to get the seal tight on the oil pan as the botom of the engine > already looks like crap from the oil. > -=mike=- > > *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* > | http://www.poulincomm.com | > | http://www.WWJP.com | > *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Why are most stock sites so slow and annoying to use? StockMaster.com > is fast, easy, powerful, and free! Use company names, not ticker > symbols. Track your portfolio. Visit: http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/65 > > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications >
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From: DJS912@webtv.net (Danny Smith) Subject: [DML] Re: Chrome Wheels Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:27:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: "josh price" <chiphi7@mindspring.com>'s message of Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:05:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Josh, The wheels your seeing are most likley stripped and polished. Some have black put between the "spokes" and are clear coated. I'm also looking for someone in my area to do mine. I think metal refinishing shops sometimes offer this service. Dan
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From: Ben Krasnow <kraz@wco.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel Tank Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:14:13 -0700 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <pid10664.1999.April.28.6:26.408560.@egroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The fuel tank is snugged in between the frame bars with foam strips. The foam usually hardens up, making the plastic tank *very* snug. Try spraying some WD-40 or other silicone lubricant on the foam strips. Then, slide a long and very thin piece of metal or a long skinny screwdriver between the foam and the tank or body. Working from the bottom of the car, try to get your hands around the small end of the tank, and pull down hard. The tank is strong, and you probably cannot do any damage by just pulling on it with your hands. I removed my tank a while ago and had it sent to be boiled in a professional tank cleaning service. Once your tank is out, make sure it is very clean, and change all or most of the other rubber parts in it to keep dirt and decomposed rubber from accumulating again. Good luck
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From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@att.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Brake master cylinder rebuild kit Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:19:52 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Duke, There is another alternative to this situation, you could send your unit out for a rebuild; check out Apple Hydraulics (1-800-882-7753). They can re-sleeve it for about $70.
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---------- > From: Duke <at88mph@mobis.com> > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Brake master cylinder rebuild kit > Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 11:21 AM > > The other day I was driving along and when I hit the brakes, the pedal went > all the way to the floor. I hit it again and it was fine. (since that > first time, it has only happened one other time but I'm not going to take > any chances) Does anyone know where I can get a brake master cylinder > rebuild kit from? I've got the Girling part number for it (SP7243) but no > one has it! If not, does anyone know what other car used the same brake > master cylinder? I've also got the number for the master cylinder (74660518 > & 74066116) but I can't find these anywhere either. Any help would be > greatly appreciated. > > > Thanks, > > > Duke > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Does your free web site address contain more letters than the alphabet? > Register a domain name with DomainDirect. A domain with NO hosting fees. > Visit http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/49 for full details. > > > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications >
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From: magriese@us.ibm.com Subject: [DML] Re: Door Struts Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:48:57 -0500 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Mike - sagging in cold weather is you clue for weak struts. Any of the DeLorean parts providers have struts available at reasonable prices.
Mike Griese Storage Software Development Manager IBM Storage Systems Division Rochester, MN 55901 Internet: magriese@us.ibm.com voice: (507)253-1853 fax: (507)253-2880
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I have a sagging passenger door which seems to be more affected by cold weather. Two questions: How do I know this is the strut and not the adjustment, second, where is the best place to purchase door struts, preferably heavy duty cold weather types. I read of a supplier of similar struts but cannot find it in the archives. Thanks.
Mike #2467
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From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com> Subject: [DML] Re: The Bricklin Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:02:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <19990428101627.12053.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Greetings, Two sites to stop by for info on the Bricklin. One is my own http://www.poulincomm.com/coolcars the other is Bricklin International at http://webus80.wang.com/BI/
Nice cars, but not as well designed and built as the DeLoreans. There
are three engines found in them, all V8's. Only built in '74-76 with a
final car count of around 3000. (like the DeLorean several cars were built
by the receivers after the plant closed.) Built in two plants in New
Brunswick Canada, Malcolm Bricklin was at a loss do to a poor economy,
rocketing gas prices, and a shortage of parts. While he didn't go down in
the blaze that JZD did, his car company went down in a similar way. The
New Brunswick government quit paying out money to the plant because
production numbers were slipping. Durring two months of 75 no cars were
produced, and for the '76 model year, only 2 cars were made. There are
about 1600 Bricks left on the road today.
The Bricklin was built on mostly detriot parts, and like the DeLorean,
except for the body panels, everything can be found for a price fairly
easily.
In a road and track issue ('75) the '74 and '75 Bricklin was pitted
against the '75 vette and won in all areas except for some finising
details that Malcolm would have been able to work out had the car survived
the mid '70's crunch.
Details about the car that you'll want to know before getting one:
The almost ALL LEAK from the door seals.
While the body won't rust, these 25 year old frames are starting to
fall apart much like a DeLorean frame w/ rips in the epoxy.
The hydrolic doors should be retroed w/ an air ram system as the
hydrolic system had a tendancy to be slow and leak.
The Majority of these cars came as automatics.. take that as you may.
These cars SHOULD NOT BE PAINTED w/o PROPER prep. there are 5 colors
that they came in, red, orange, green, suntan, and white. If you find one
in any other color, beware! if it wasn't painted properly the paint will
eat through the acrilic body.
Hmm, I had ment to keep this message short, if you want to read more or know more, I can point you in the right direction. -=mike=-
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On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Hey People wrote:
> use the keys to open them...How did THEY get out of buisness? There's a > site that said, "It had a similar fate to the DeLorean." That's all it > said. What type of engine, how fast could it go, and all that stuff i > want to know. If anyone has an intteresting site i could go to, it > would be greatly appriciated. I've been wanteing to know that for quite > some time now. Thank you guys for all your help. > > -Pedar Benson Bate
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From: magriese@us.ibm.com Subject: [DML] Re: RV: Need Tech Info. Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:47:38 -0500 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Daniel - There is a single factory-built twin turbo DeLorean. This was a prototype. No factory built turbocharged DeLoreans were available to the general public. Turbo kits are available as bolt-on accessories. There are at least two available. Expect to pay $5000 to $7000 to have a kit installed. I can't make a call on which kit is better as I have no first hand experience with any of them.
ABS was also not available and I know of no properly engineered ABS system that can be retrofitted to the car. Larger disks and calipers can be added along with larger wheels and lower profile tires.
Mike. Griese Storage Software Development Manager IBM Storage Systems Division Rochester, MN 55901 Internet: magriese@us.ibm.com voice: (507)253-1853 fax: (507)253-2880
"Daniel Delmastro Luriaud" <dandelluri@ctv.es> on 04/27/99 08:37:48 PM
Please respond to dmcnews@egroups.com
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Hi All!
I'm interested to buy my D. soon (5 speed) and I need to know few technical aspects of the car, and these are: Exist any "oficial" or "legal" version of the Turbo DMC 12?, May be some "Twin Turbo" version?, If the answer is NO, could somebody tell me if is possible to make this adaptation to the original PRV engine, and may be give me an idea of how much this operation could cost?, and, what turbo brand could be better?. May be I will need better brake system, it is possible to fit an ABS to the D.?. Thanks a lot in advance and receive a warm greeting!
Daniel dandelluri@ctv.es
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From: raynet@home.net Subject: [DML] Re: Stalling, etc,- Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:52:54 -0000 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <pid23332.1999.April.27.8:10.945967.@egroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
<SNIP> Secondly, brake pedal goes to floor on some "panic" stops only ,fine rest of the time.<SNIP>
Not sure on the first part, but as per the brakes, I have heard that if you have air in the brake system, that that could cause the problem. You might want to try bleeding the system and refilling with new brake fluid. At the same time do the usuall inspections of brake lines for leaks, and pads etc.
Raymond McKay
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From: raynet@home.net Subject: [DML] Re: Brake master cylinder rebuild kit Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:58:52 -0000 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000a01be918a$e157e1e0$cacac9cf@kcc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
<SNIP> Does anyone know where I can get a brake master cylinder <SNIP>
I don't know about a rebuild kit but I know where you can get a new one... I just had to replace my master cylinder also. You can get new ones from PJ Grady www.pjgrady.com
I believe the cost was something like $165
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From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel Tank Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:07:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <pid10664.1999.April.28.6:26.408560.@egroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
We left the tank in place, removed the screen, lines, etc, and used a small person with golves to reach inside with small towels and wiped all of the crap to the center where we could shop vac it out. I'm sure that there are a thousand reasons not to do it this way, but it has seemed to work. Just a note, remember, it's a gas tank, don't smoke while cleaning it. ;) -=mike=-
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On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 Luke.Sandel@cmich.edu wrote:
> In my quest to clean up the fuel system, a tank scrubbing is in order. But... I > can't get the thing out. Everything has been removed (pump, sender, plumbing, > and access cover) but the tank won't budge an inch. Aside from climbing in the > trunk and jumping up and down on it, are there any tricks to getting this thing > out? So far I've tried pushing, pulling, shoving, hitting, wrenching and > swearing and so far swearing has been the only thing that makes any difference > (makes me feel better at least :). > > Thanks for any help, > Luke > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Too much effort to find the stock info you want each day? StockMaster > lets you enter a company name and quickly shows you a daily quote, > chart, and news all on one page. Free! http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/71 > > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications > >
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From: Bob Brandys <oehcs@flash.net> Subject: [DML] Re: The Bricklin Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:09:45 +0500 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19990428101627.12053.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Bricklens and DeLoreans have a lot in common. They were both ventures of single entropenures have gull wing doors, were only in production 18 months and were both produced in the middle of recessions. (Where the resessons created to make sure these car makers did not succeed?)
The bricklen was conceived as a safety vehicle. (50 mph head on surviability without air bags, had hydralic doors (later up graded to compressed air) and excellant side impact protection. The 390 V-8 powered car with the 3.42 could turn the quarter mile in the mid 14s. A true performance car. Fuel economy was only 13 mpg.
We have been trying to encourage joint events with Bricklin owners. They have been provided with our meeting schedule for the national magazine. I encourage other clubs to also seek out these people. If you need info please contact me directly.
Deloreans owners should be aware that over 50% of all Bricklins have been modified from stock. This has improved the cars and the modified ones are actually worth more than the stock cars (provided the are improved in good taste. )
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From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com> Subject: [DML] Re: engine removeing Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:13:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <19990429045336.BNTS28576@494154526worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Thanks for the info. We'll have to get the Workshop Manual. All we have now is the parts manual. As far as the gaskets go, somone told us that the form-a-gasket had been used, from your info I take it that that's a li. people will do that for some dumb reason or another. For what it's worth though, this engine has been pulled apart then. the red gasket glue is ozzeing out of several bolt holes. The Oil leak is from the pan and front cover. We've found several bolts that were loose, and a couple missing on both the cover and pan. When ever we tighten them the oil will quit dripping for a few days, then it starts again. The sending unit it tight. (and wouldn't cause oil drops on the other side of the engine.) Thanks! -=mike=- *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* | http://www.poulincomm.com | | http://www.WWJP.com | *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*
On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, DMC Joe wrote:
> Michel, > Form-a-gasket was never used at the factory, all the engines left the > engine manufacturing plant in Douvrain France completely assembled with > factory gaskets in place. When they arrived at the DMC plant they were > installed as is, all that was necessary was to attach electric's and > plumbing. > > To completely remove the engine follow the procedures at C:04:01 in the > Workshop Manual. > > The PRV is an extremely well sealed engine, most oil leaks occur at the oil > sender, change this item and its seal and you may find that your oil leak > will go away. > > DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> > Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com> >
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From: David Sontos <dsontos@sybercom.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel Tank Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:32:06 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <pid10664.1999.April.28.6:26.408560.@egroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi Luke,
I had the same problem with mine when I first got my car. I made the mistake of draining all the fuel out first. Wished I had left it in later though. The way I got mine out was just by pushing and prying. BE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO POKE A HOLE IN THE TANK, IT IS PLASTIC. You do need to remove the two cooling pipes that run along each side of the tank. It makes life a lot easier. The book says to just move them out of the way but they always pop back. Work at the small back end of the tank. The front part sits on a shelf and must be moved rearward to drop down. Make sure you have your shop jack under the the tank when it starts to drop. The tank empty only weighs about 20-30 pounds. You might try fishing a wire over the top to give you something to pull down on.
Dave
Luke.Sandel@cmich.edu wrote:
> In my quest to clean up the fuel system, a tank scrubbing is in order. But... I > can't get the thing out. Everything has been removed (pump, sender, plumbing, > and access cover) but the tank won't budge an inch. Aside from climbing in the > trunk and jumping up and down on it, are there any tricks to getting this thing > out? So far I've tried pushing, pulling, shoving, hitting, wrenching and > swearing and so far swearing has been the only thing that makes any difference > (makes me feel better at least :). > > Thanks for any help, > Luke > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Too much effort to find the stock info you want each day? StockMaster > lets you enter a company name and quickly shows you a daily quote, > chart, and news all on one page. Free! http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/71 > > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications
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From: DeLorean31@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: engine removeing Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:26:58 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 4/29/99 3:56:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mpoulin@poulincomm.com writes:
<< The sending unit it tight. (and wouldn't cause oil drops on the other side of the engine.) Thanks! -=mike=- >> Well there is an oil sender for the guage on one side and a sender for the oil light on the other so it could be a sender leaking. The one on the driver's side for the light is prone to leaking
Gary VIN 3360
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From: "robert parker" <roberthparker@hotmail.com> Subject: [DML] Re: [Fwd: Belfast N.Ireland.] Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:29:47 PDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have done a non-stop Tulsa-Las Vegas & non-stop Tulsa-Snowmass trip in my DMC, (Conventions). Bucket seats are rated the most comfy of any style, & my bu-tochs definitely agrees. Two-cents worth from a road-warrior. Drive Stainless Robert
>From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@worldnet.att.net> >Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com >To: <dmcnews@egroups.com> >Subject: [DML] Re: [Fwd: Belfast N.Ireland.] >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:11:33 -0500 > >After reading several accounts of opinions regarding the comfort of the >DeLorean for long periods of time in the driver seat I have to comment. I've >crisscrossed the U.S. many times in my DeLorean, most of the time with >friends who also were driving DeLoreans. Our common concensus was that we >felt less tired after putting long hours in the saddle in this car than of >any other vehicle we'd traveled in. We found the car seemed the happiest at >about 80 to 90 mph and 900 mile days were not all that out of the ordinary >for us. To classify the car as strictly a boulevard cruiser is to do it a >great injustice. There isn't another car I'd rather put those many miles per >day with than my DeLorean. > >Bruce Benson > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >SPRING IS HERE - Wilson Sporting Goods! Jet Evolution Basketballs, >NFL Autograph Football, Conform Pitcher, Outfielder Glove. Full >Selection of golf clubs, skates, water sports, team sports equipment! >http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/146 > >eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/dmcnews >Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com > >
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From: KayoOng@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: Chrome Wheels Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:15:37 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Josh,
You can't chrome aluminum rims or aluminum materials. Aluminum must be anodized.
What you do see are most likely machined and polished rims with a clear protective coating to prevent discoloration and pitting.
If you do machine the original rims, make sure they are rebalanced afterwards and all are the same closed approximate weight.
The other rims you see, is not or may not be original DMC. If you do replace rims with non DMC rims, make sure they fit properly. The bolt on pattern is a must. When the rims with the tires are mounted onto the car they must clear the wheel well, while they are in motion. No scraping or chaffing during driving -- bumps, turning, stopping and etc.
Also make sure the new rims can handle the different dynamic stresses while the car is in motion. I understand that there are rims that do fit (not too many manufactured or choices). The rims and tires are subjected to different "stresses." These rims that are available may not be able to handle the different stresses that the rims are subjected to during usage. You don't want the rims to crack to break off. Remember, in this case, looks may not equate to safety.
Kayo Ong #05508 Lic. 9D NY
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From: Caliendo76@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: The Bricklin Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:17:36 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Some other interesting facts about the Bricklin SV-1 (Safety Vehicle). The car was designed and manufactured without an ashtray, as smoking and driving at the same time was considered dangerous. The suspension was derived from an AMC Javelin. It is also rumored that the first 800 were said to cost over $10,000 more to build than their sticker price.
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From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@worldnet.att.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Stalling, etc,- Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:15:20 -0500 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ References: <pid23332.1999.April.27.8:10.945967.@egroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
----- Original Message ----- From: <mbslaw@webtv.net> To: <dmcnews@egroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 10:10 PM Subject: [DML] Stalling, etc,-
> I have just gotten almost all of the bugs out of #2904 that I bought last fall except when the gas tank is down to 4-5 gals the car begins to stall out when I corner sharply > or stop suddely
DMC modified the fuel baffles starting with vin #4782. Baffles prior to that tended to dissolve over time when immersed in gasoline. I'm not sure if they would completly dissolve but they did tend to melt into an unusable shape. I'd guess that's one of the reasons they're hard to come by now.
Bruce Benson
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From: raynet@home.net Subject: [DML] Re: engine removeing Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:10:27 -0000 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990429130329.10678A-100000@linux2> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> When ever we tighten them the oil will quit dripping for a few days, then > it starts again. The sending unit it tight. (and wouldn't cause oil drops > on the other side of the engine.)
I have an oil leak very much like this. I found out after much searching (of course it wouldn't leak while I was looking at it) that the oil was leaking from the purge valve on the oil pan for draining the oil. Of course my luck the thing is stripped so I cant get it out to re-seal...
Maybe I'm totally off on your problem. But who knows, I never expected that this problem was caused by something so simple!!!
Raymond McKay
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From: CBL302@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: The Bricklin Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:12:04 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Being the owner of Deloreans and Bricklins I find that the Bricklins are less likely to breakdowns and a much easier car to drive and mechanically parts are very easy to locate (1975 Ford 351ci)but the Deloreans are superior in fit and trim appearance,and better grade materials,and the fact that only 75 Bricklins were made with 4 speeds and only in 1974(360ci amc motor)but the Bricklin being built as a SV-1(Safety Vehicle Model 0ne)has it over the Delorean if you should get in a serious accident,overall I would rate both cars as very nice cars to own,also both cars came without paint,the Bricklin had acrylic bonded to the Fiberglass. Also did anybody realize John Z. Delorean cannot go back to Ireland because there is a arrest warrant for him.
Claude
Delorean vin#000570 / 005688 vin#06383 / 10554 Bricklin Vin#1024 /1136
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From: CBL302@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel Tank Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 02:09:53 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 4/29/99 3:57:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dsontos@sybercom.net writes:
<< The tank empty only weighs about 20-30 pounds. You might try fishing a wire over the top to give you something to pull down on. >>
No way! I have pulled many a Delorean tanks,empty they weight less than 10lbs.How can a Plastic tank weigh 30lbs.
Claude 000570
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From: illyana delorean <illyanadmc@yahoo.com> Subject: [DML] Re: The Bricklin Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:47:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
--- Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com> wrote:
The Majority of these cars came as automatics.. take that as you may.
i think this is another "brilliant safety feature!" less distractions, i guess. also, bricklins had a cool feature where you could not turn on the car until your (the driver's) seat belt was on. of course, one can bypass this easily - as many members of the bricklin mailing list have noted.
if you like bricks, definately join the list! it doesn't even come close to getting as much traffic as this list, but it's fun and i'm on it even thought i don't own a brick (or a D for that matter!) bricks are cool, though, there's a white one here in tucson, and i've gotten to sit in it! my boyfriend says that they look like "armoured 70s-style corvettes!"
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From: "Jack Stiefel" <Stiefel@bladerunnertackle.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Chrome Wheels Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:11:04 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Just my 2 cents worth. While working in Ohio, my business dealt with a wheel company called Transwheel (I am not sure of their number, but it is 800 so just call 1-800-555-1212 for number). Anyway, they refinished my wheels in my "D" with great care. They said it usually costs about $90.00 per wheel to refinish them with a turnaround of about a week. They had mine in 3 days but I was working with them.
Jack Stiefel President Blade Runner Tackle Corporation President Leslie Leasing Corporation Visit us at: http://www.bladerunnertackle.com or my DeLorean page at: http://www.geocities.com/rodeodrive/8601/delorean.html Ny Lic # 1981 DMC -----Original Message----- From: KayoOng@aol.com <KayoOng@aol.com> To: dmcnews@egroups.com <dmcnews@egroups.com> Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 8:56 PM Subject: [DML] Re: Chrome Wheels
>Josh, > >You can't chrome aluminum rims or aluminum materials. >Aluminum must be anodized. > >What you do see are most likely machined and polished rims with a clear >protective coating to prevent discoloration and pitting. > >If you do machine the original rims, make sure they are rebalanced afterwards >and all are the same closed approximate weight. > >The other rims you see, is not or may not be original DMC. If you do replace >rims with non DMC rims, make sure they fit properly. The bolt on pattern is >a must. When the rims with the tires are mounted onto the car they must >clear the wheel well, while they are in motion. No scraping or chaffing >during driving -- bumps, turning, stopping and etc. > >Also make sure the new rims can handle the different dynamic stresses while >the car is in motion. I understand that there are rims that do fit (not too >many manufactured or choices). The rims and tires are subjected to different >"stresses." These rims that are available may not be able to handle the >different stresses that the rims are subjected to during usage. You don't >want the rims to crack to break off. Remember, in this case, looks may not >equate to safety. > >Kayo Ong >#05508 >Lic. 9D NY > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews >Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com > >
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From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@eclipse.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Chrome Wheels Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:09:32 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE9284.98A45F00" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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snip-----> You can't chrome aluminum rims or aluminum materials. Aluminum must be anodized.<-----snip
Uh, sorry... that is wrong. Aluminum can be chromed. It is done all the tim= e at the motorcycle shop I work at. Look at all the aftermarket wheels out = there that are chromed... and they ARE chromed. Any aluminum wheel can be c= hromed, but it has to be polished first. I've seen aluminum motorcycle whee= ls, with my own eyes, chromed. It's expensive, but it can be done. Anything= aluminum can be chromed. If you want your wheels chromed, check the wheel = and tire sections in your "Want Ad" used car magazine listings. They will c= hrome your wheels for you. You might also be able to find a company listen = in Hemmings Motor News. Good luck. ---Dan
---------- From: =09KayoOng@aol.com[SMTP:KayoOng@aol.com] Sent: =09Thursday, April 29, 1999 4:15 PM To: =09dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: =09[DML] Re: Chrome Wheels
Josh, =
You can't chrome aluminum rims or aluminum materials. Aluminum must be anodized.
What you do see are most likely machined and polished rims with a clear =
protective coating to prevent discoloration and pitting. =
If you do machine the original rims, make sure they are rebalanced afterwar= ds =
and all are the same closed approximate weight.
The other rims you see, is not or may not be original DMC. If you do repla= ce =
rims with non DMC rims, make sure they fit properly. The bolt on pattern i= s =
a must. When the rims with the tires are mounted onto the car they must =
clear the wheel well, while they are in motion. No scraping or chaffing =
during driving -- bumps, turning, stopping and etc.
Also make sure the new rims can handle the different dynamic stresses while= =
the car is in motion. I understand that there are rims that do fit (not to= o =
many manufactured or choices). The rims and tires are subjected to differen= t =
"stresses." These rims that are available may not be able to handle the =
different stresses that the rims are subjected to during usage. You don't =
want the rims to crack to break off. Remember, in this case, looks may not= =
equate to safety.
Kayo Ong #05508 Lic. 9D NY
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From: "." <jdl@interax.com> Subject: [DML] FW: Prototype Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:52:16 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What are the other differences between the prototype and the regular D. = Seems like even in the rotten state of the car, that to have a prototype = for 14 K would be quite a steal. How many prototypes were there? It = would be nice to see the owner of that give us some pics. If I did not = have a D already, I'd snap that one up, even if it needed 7-8K of work = to get it into decent shape.
David Levey Cleveland =20
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=20 Saw the same "#2 prototype" car at a Detroit auction over the week-end. = It is=20 the same car =20 that was purchased by a Detroit car dealer at the Las Vegas auction for = $10,000. It has sliding windows...a differently designed engine = cover...front air intake, etc. Bidding for the car did not meet the = reserve but I noticed from the "still for sale" tag placed on the car = after the bidding had ended that the dealer who owns it is now asking = $14,000. Pretty inexpensive for a major piece of automotive history (I = guess I'm biased). There appeared to be mainly dealers at this auction = so they were not interested in this kind of investment and most of the = non-dealer types at the auction could have been put off by the ill = fitting doors and body panels, etc. although the car was drawing a lot = of lookers. =20 Cliff McComb =20 Detroit, MI =20 VIN # 11546
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From: Will Preissner <colonel_zipp@yahoo.com> Subject: [DML] Delorean Font Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:29:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hey there!
I know it's been posted before but does anyone know a website where I could order/find the DeLorean True Type Font?
I'm a freshman at Virginia Tech majoring in Industrial Design. I'm doing my final project on the history and technology of the DeLorean. It'd be great if I could use the font in my presentation.
Thanks!
Will Preissner will.preissner@vt.edu <A HREF = "http://www.idsa.org">IDSA</A> <A HREF = "http://www.vt.edu">VT</A>
P.S. any other students or industrial or automotive designers out there?<hr size=1><b>Do You Yahoo!?</b><br> <hr><center></center>
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From: Brian Henderlong <bhenderlong@mindspring.com> Subject: [DML] painted pics wanted Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:57:16 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Like many enthusiasts, I enjoy hunting for pictures of DeLoreans on the internet -- especially painted ones, because they are so uncommon. I've seen a few dozen pics of red DeLoreans, five or six pics of green ones, and even a couple of white ones.
I don't know about you, but I've only seen two pics of black DeLoreans, and only one pic of a yellow DeLorean. I love stainless steel DeLoreans, but I happen to think the cars look great in colors, as well. I've been on this list since early '96, and have never seen a webpage that collected pics of painted DeLoreans.
Do any of you have pics of black, yellow, or any other color DeLoreans that you could share with the rest of us? If you do, please post the URL, or e-mail them to me -- with the photograph-owner's permission, I'll set up a "Painted DMCs Only" webpage to share them with everyone!
Thanks in advance, Brian Henderlong DOA# 4977 VIN# working on it...
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From: NELLYMAC1@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: Door Struts Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:01:04 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The fact that the problem is worse in cold weather would emply that the problem is the strut as the gas is not expanding as much as it should in the coldweather and many years has reduced the level ( I had the same thing) I got new sruts from Delorean1 and although quite expensive were as perfect as you would expect ,however afterwards I came across an advert for a company that re fills the gas in them for around a tenth of the cost so try and look down that street first.
Neil in Scotland 2119
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From: "eGroups.com Poll Results" <espey@dmcnews.com> Subject: [DML] Voting Results: Where do you get your DeLorean parts? X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Here are the results of the vote:
1. Bauerle Automotive, OH 1 2. DeLorean Motor Center, CA 2 3. DeLorean One, CA 2 4. Other 2 5. Specialty Automotive, WA 4 6. DeLorean Motor Company, TX 8 7. PJ Grady, NY 33
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From: magriese@us.ibm.com Subject: [DML] No Subject Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:47:18 -0500 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dave wrote
>What are the other differences between the prototype and the regular D. Seems like even in the rotten state of the car, that to have a prototype for 14 K would be quite a steal. How many prototypes were there? It would be nice to see the owner of that give us some pics. If I did not have a D already, I'd snap that one up, even if it needed 7-8K of work to get it into decent shape. <
There is a reason this car is only $14,000. I would guess that 7-8k wouldn't come close to putting the car into good condition. Everything on the car would require enormous research to find a replacement or have to be custom made. Any missing or broken glass or interior trim pieces will be expensive to replace.
Michael A. Griese Storage Software Development Manager IBM Storage Systems Division Rochester, MN 55901 Internet: magriese@us.ibm.com voice: (507)253-1853 fax: (507)253-2880
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From: LovDMC12@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: FW: Prototype Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:13:35 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
David,
As well as I remember from "Stainless Steel Illusion" the windows were one of the main differences between the prototypes and the production models. Also, one of the prototypes had a Citroen 4 cylinder engine. The second prototype had the PRV. There were only two prototypes. I want to say that they had different style knee padding and had tan interiors.
There are several pictures of them in "Stainless Steel Illusion."
Brian VIN 1597
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From: MCCOMBC@dteenergy.com Subject: [DML] prototype Date: 30 Apr 99 12:19:32 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Body panels on the proto appeared more rounded at edges...not sharp like production cars... an indication that they were hand produced. Also the sign=
on the car indicated that there are velcro tabs on front to interchange alternate front grill panels for test purposes. Front and rear facia were painted bright silver almost as if they were trying to match the stainless. The tailights looked handmade but had the appearance of production lenses. Interior appeared almost stock...even had switches for power windows (although the car itself had sliding plastic). The rear louvre was missing struts. On the whole it looked like everything else was there. No cracks on binnacle or=
dash that I could see.
Cliff McComb
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From: Paraversal@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: FW: Prototype Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:25:20 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
About a week ago I had the unique opprotunity to sit in the #2 prototype and take photographs (although they turned out somewhat dark) I am planning on posting all of these pictures noting all of the differences. James actually has a very nice page on the prorotype right here on the dmcnews website. Just scroll down a bit and you will see a link.
Just a thought :-)
Justin
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From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Door Struts Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:54:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <13161c4f.245a5ad0@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
WHERE? I've got 4 struts that needs to be brought back to life, two door and two louver. (sp) Thanks! -=mike=- *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* | http://www.poulincomm.com | | http://www.WWJP.com | *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-*
On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 NELLYMAC1@aol.com wrote: > ... however afterwards I came > across an advert for a company that re fills the gas in them for around a > tenth of the cost so try and look down that street first. >
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From: NELLYMAC1@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: FW: Prototype Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:01:03 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
there is also a nice article on the prots in the Delorean Gold Portfolio book (Brooklands Books) there are some good interior shots (B\W) and the reasons for the changes
Neil in Scotland 2119
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From: "John Dore" <dmcjohn@hotmail.com> Subject: [DML] Arrest Warrant... Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:42:44 PDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>Claude, you said: >Also did anybody realize John Z. Delorean cannot go back to Ireland > >because >there is a arrest warrant for him.
Claude, its true there is a warrant for John DeLoreans arrest here in Ireland, but that does not mean he did anything wrong - all it means is that they think they have something on him and would like to ask him to explain it...again
In the TV interview with him, produced by Robert Lamrock, John was asked by the interviewer why he thought there was a warrant for his arrest in Ireland. He explained that he has already been acquitted of this charge on 3 separate occasions, and since he knows he did nothing wrong, he can't understand the arrest warrant. He also said he feels that there is no justice in Northern Ireland, and he pointed out what happened to the Bermingham 6 & Guilford 4 (people imprisoned and abused for crimes they did not commit). He has a point you know. Why should he come to Ireland, and risk spending years in jail for something he says (and I believe him) he did not do, when his time would be much better spent working on his new car?
I think its a huge pity the way things turned out for him in Ireland, I'd love for him to visit me here sometime and I'd show him around, but unfortunately that isn't going to happen....but anyway just remember, he never did anything wrong, and imho he definately doesn't deserve that arrest warrant.
anyway, thats what I think about the "arrest warrant" - ridiculous! I feel better having got that off my chest!
Best Wishes, John Dore, Ireland. http://homepage.tinet.ie/~johndore "Johns Irish DeLorean Webpage!"
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From: Jus4sho@aol.com Subject: [DML] Structural Question: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:27:09 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I am in the process of installing a windshield in my D when I took note of just how thin the A pillar and windshield frame were and how little support this part has. I was wondering if anyone knows if there's any metal reinforcement inside the fiberglass or is it just the 'glass? Just curious.
Steve
VIN 2650
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From: raynet@home.net Subject: [DML] DML: Trim (To Paint or not to Paint) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:34:58 -0000 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Ok possible dumb question coming so bear with me...
As with any thing that sits out for a while in the sun, alot of the outer trim including mirrors, louvers, around the door locks, bumpers, and front windshield are faded. Now the question is how to get them looking like new. Armor All only does so much and rinses off in the rain. Is there something I can put on to restore them or should I just paint them... Ideas and suggestions are welcome...
Raymond McKay
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From: cooney@pathway.net Subject: [DML] AC Accumulator Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:40:47 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I am looking for an old style AC accumulator. This being the one with the return hose at the bottom. Yes, I tried Houston and am contacting PG Grady as well. If you know of a source and perhaps a price, please let me know.
Thanks,
Mike #2467
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From: espey@dmcnews.com Subject: [DML] RSVP: DeLorean Clubs and Organizations X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Which of the following DeLorean groups do you belong to? Select as many as apply! ----
Please select one or more of the following:
o DeLorean Owners Asociation o DeLorean Motor Club o Regional DeLorean-only club o Other Regional Club o DeLorean Mailing List
by going to the following Web form:
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From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: [DML] Re: DML: Trim (To Paint or not to Paint) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:37:17 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <pid22525.1999.April.30.2:34.24748.@egroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I like "Back to black". I think it is sold by Mothers Gold.
raynet@home.net wrote: > > Ok possible dumb question coming so bear with me... > > As with any thing that sits out for a while in the sun, alot of the outer trim including mirrors, louvers, around the door locks, bumpers, and front windshield are faded. Now the question is how to get them looking like new. Armor All only does so much and rinses off in the rain. Is there something I can put on to restore them or should I just paint them... Ideas and suggestions are welcome... >
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From: "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm@csus.edu> Subject: [DML] Northern California Gathering Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:36:51 -0700 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The Northern California DeLorean Motor Club (NCDMC) will be having its first gathering of the year this Sunday:
Sunday morning May 2nd at 9:30AM El Torito restaurant 1961 Diamond Blvd Concord (925) 798-7660
The El Torito is located in the Willows Shopping Center off of Willow Pass Road at Highway 680. You can see it from the freeway on the east side of the highway.
We'll be discussing activities for the club, such as road trips to scenic locations, overnighters to the coast and Lake Tahoe, trips to the wine country and car shows in our area. As a reward for attending, I have a piece of original DeLorean memorabilia for every owner. E-mail me if you can come. I'll need to let the restaurant know about how many people will be coming. I'll make the reservation to seat us at 9:30 when the restaurant opens, so please be prompt.
Come on out even if you can't bring your car. We'll start with breakfast/brunch and then get our cars lined up for a photo shoot. If enough people attend we'll caravan to one of the local scenic locations.
We'll also be having a second gathering soon. I've been trying to find every DeLorean owner in the Northern California area. Membership is free. We've had 2 'meets' so far. We are planning tours, tech sessions, and perhaps we'll even host a larger event. If you'd like to join in just let me know. Soon we'll have our own web site for club information and announcements and a message board. Having a lack of DeLorean service facilities in our area makes it all the more important for us to band together.
If you like to see some photos from our last 2 'meets', check out my web site!
Ken Montgomery ================================================================ Ken Montgomery VIN #10911 Work : (916) 278-7646 Sacramento, CA 'OUTTIME' Home : (916) 944-3252 Founder, Northern California DeLorean Motor Club 'NCDMC' Please visit my website at: http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean01.htm kenm@csus.edu ================================================================
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From: "Ian T. A. Foster" <ian@netvigator.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Arrest Warrant... Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 07:44:02 +0100 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19990430174245.960.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi John,
Not wishing to seem "Politically incorrect" but was this arrest warrant issued in Ireland or Britain/N.Ireland. Surely it was only the Brits that got 'stung' financially by the DeLorean saga? JZD can still go kiss the Blarney Stone if he wants, surely?!
I recall as a kid at Limavady Grammar School (20ish years ago) in History/Geography Class, how the N.Ireland Industrial policy had changed after the DeLorean experiment ... Govt. Grants would from then on concentrate on 'local cottage industries' rather than big brash investments.
I later worked for the architect who had built the factory at Dunmurray. We put forward proposals for Govt. to split it up into a number of smaller units.
Cheers, IAN ***********************
John Dore wrote:
> >Claude, you said: > >Also did anybody realize John Z. Delorean cannot go back to Ireland > > >because > >there is a arrest warrant for him. > > Claude, its true there is a warrant for John DeLoreans arrest here in > Ireland, but that does not mean he did anything wrong - all it means is that > they think they have something on him and would like to ask him to explain > it...again > > In the TV interview with him, produced by Robert Lamrock, John was asked by > the interviewer why he thought there was a warrant for his arrest in > Ireland. He explained that he has already been acquitted of this charge on 3 > separate occasions, and since he knows he did nothing wrong, he can't > understand the arrest warrant. He also said he feels that there is no > justice in Northern Ireland, and he pointed out what happened to the > Bermingham 6 & Guilford 4 (people imprisoned and abused for crimes they did > not commit). He has a point you know. Why should he come to Ireland, and > risk spending years in jail for something he says (and I believe him) he did > not do, when his time would be much better spent working on his new car? > > I think its a huge pity the way things turned out for him in Ireland, I'd > love for him to visit me here sometime and I'd show him around, but > unfortunately that isn't going to happen....but anyway just remember, he > never did anything wrong, and imho he definately doesn't deserve that arrest > warrant. > > anyway, thats what I think about the "arrest warrant" - ridiculous! > I feel better having got that off my chest! > > Best Wishes, > John Dore, Ireland. > http://homepage.tinet.ie/~johndore > "Johns Irish DeLorean Webpage!" > > ______________________________________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Tired of waiting for your stock quotes and charts to load? > StockMaster is super-fast for quotes, charts, news, and portfolios. > Markets don't wait, why should you? http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/69 > > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications
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From: "SweatyEddy" <swetyedy@cwnet.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Door Struts Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 23:04:03 -0700 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ References: <37266C4B.3C94@pathway.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The doors will tend to sag more in cold weather as they are gas charged they follow the perfect gas law equation PV=nRT which predicts as temperature decreases so does the pressure if volume is fixed. Although the usual Delorean parts dealers are the easiest to get replacement struts with a little research there are cheaper alternatives. If you are interested; you may notice that the ends unscrew from the strut, this is important, save the ends and measure the dimensions of the gas cylinder, industrial supply companies such as McMaster-Carr in southern California can replace the cylinder for considerably less than you will pay for the complete strut from a parts house. I did this for my doors, engine louvers and hood. -Sweaty Eddy ----- Original Message ----- From: <cooney@pathway.net> To: <dmcnews@egroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 7:02 PM Subject: [DML] Door Struts
> I have a sagging passenger door which seems to be more affected by cold > weather. Two questions: How do I know this is the strut and not the > adjustment, second, where is the best place to purchase door struts, > preferably heavy duty cold weather types. I read of a supplier of > similar struts but cannot find it in the archives. Thanks. > > Mike > #2467 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Does your free web site address contain more letters than the alphabet? > Register a domain name with DomainDirect. A domain with NO hosting fees. > Visit http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/49 for full details. > > > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > >
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From: "darryl@techline.com" <darryl@techline.com> Subject: [DML] Re: chrome wheels, Bricklins Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 09:52:22 +0000 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
So, Kayo, you can't chrome plate aluminum? That's going to come as a surprise to the people out there who do that for a living. Sometimes I really have to wonder about the stuff I read on here. Anyway, for what it is worth, I have had both polished and yes chromed stock wheels on my DeLoreans, and both are a huge improvement over the stock look. I have chrome ones on my supercharged car, and prefer them because the upkeep is zero. You just wash them and they look terrific. If anyone is interested I can have them chrome plated, including painting between the spokes, for about $189 each, plus shipping. The wheels must be in mint condition. I also have a limited number of new wheels that can be chromed, for only $175 more.
As for Bricklins, I had for years wanted to own one just so I could compare it to the DeLorean (and get pictures of the two, doors up, side-by-side in my driveway). I finally got my chance - a few years ago I picked up a very low mileage car for only $4,000. Another DeLorean owner and I were going to go halves on it, but at the last minute he chickened out. It was a very early car, ugly Suntan color, with the AMC drivetrain. It still had the slow hydraulic doors and some significant damage to the top of the door skins, but otherwise was quite nice. But it was like driving a Javelin. It also felt like a thrown-together kit car, and it got many more comments than the DeLorean ever did - only they were all negative. The one I loved was that it "looked like a Saab eating an eight-track tape". Anyway, it was probably the worst car I have ever owned, and after a long two months or so I was able to persuade my formally reluctant "partner" to take it off my hands. And in keeping with my often-repeated statement of having "never lost money on a collector car" I sold it to him for exactly what I had invested in it up til then - sales tax, license, repairs, etc., rounded up to the next even dollar. That was the best profit I ever made, because it was GONE.
Darryl Tinnerstet McCleary, WA PH: 360-495-4640
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From: c_flock@hotmail.com Subject: [DML] Re: DML: Trim (To Paint or not to Paint) Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 02:03:24 -0000 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <372A228D.9B866ED3@dnrc.bell-labs.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
<372a228d.9b866ed-@dnrc.bell-labs.com> wrote: Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/?start=298 > I like "Back to black". I think it is sold by Mothers Gold. > > > raynet@home.net wrote: > > > > Ok possible dumb question coming so bear with me... > > > > As with any thing that sits out for a while in the sun, alot of the outer trim including mirrors, louvers, around the door locks, bumpers, and front windshield are faded. Now the question is how to get them looking like new. Armor All only does so much and rinses off in the rain. Is there something I can put on to restore them or should I just paint them... Ideas and suggestions are welcome... > > > I recomend that you use RustOleum paint on your trim, because it makes a completely waterproof seal around the parts. You will, of course, want to remove any trim peices you can before you paint them.
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From: KayoOng@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: DML: Trim (To Paint or not to Paint) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:27:44 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Raymond,
It takes a little patience and time to get the black trim to look like new. All you have to do is to painted it black with Krylon Spray paint #1613 Semi Flat Black. First clean all the black areas to be painted. Prepare all areas to be painted such as fill nicks cracks etc. Make sure surfaces are smooth. Clean again.
Next mask all areas not to get painted or over spray with masking tape and masking paper (newspaper works). Spray it careful then remove tape and protective masking paper after it is 70% dried. Let dry completely. That is all it is need to get the new look.
All exterior black -- front and rear bumpers, rocker sides panels, windows trim, front windshield trim, louvers, engine cover, left and right rear engine to window panel, front air scoop, rear exhaust skirt, rear license plate frame, tail light assemblies and the front grill. These areas will require about 8 to 12 hours and 8 to 10 cans of spray paint.
You still have the interior areas such as the doors, front hood engine compartment and extras if you wish to take it farther.
Kayo Ong #05508 Lic 9D NY
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From: NJP548@aol.com Subject: [DML] my DeLorean at auction on Ebay.com Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 01:52:37 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dear List,
I just wanted to pass the information that I have decided to sell my
DeLorean on the online auction house Ebay.com, due to the fact that money
doesn't grow on trees and college is coming soon. I just added it to the
bidding block tonight so it won't be found in a delorean search until the
update their site, so I decided the best way for people who want to buy a
DeLorean was to send the URL to the people looking for a DeLorean now, so
they have a chance to get their bids on the car early.
The URL is:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=99215173
Thanks, Nick VIN#1852
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From: Brian Henderlong <bhenderlong@mindspring.com> Subject: [DML] Painted DeLoreans website Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 05:41:41 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi, everyone!
I've started the Painted DeLoreans website at:
http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm
Please stop by! Only a few people have submitted pics so far, but they are good pics! Check out Dan's STUNNING black and gold DeLorean!
If you've taken pictures of a painted DeLorean and would like to see them on the site, please e-mail them to me, along with a note granting me permission to post them. Let's make this site a really good collection of "DeLoreans in Color!"
Thanks, Brian Henderlong DOA# 4977 VIN# working on it...
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From: romeo@maco.net Subject: [DML] Delorean on ebay auction! Check it out. Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 06:42:00 -0000 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi everyone! Check out the link below.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=96073262
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From: Mike03062@aol.com Subject: [DML] JZD in Ireland Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 13:39:27 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
John I agree with you fully, furthermore as a citizen of both The Republic of Ireland and the United States, in my opinion, the cure for the "troubles" in the North is JOBS. JZD did it properly assuring a balance of Catholic and Protestant workers and never had a problem at the plant. I believe the British Gov't made a big mistake deciding not to support DMC Ireland. That decision not only closed a potentially viable business, but sent the message that new industry in the North is unwelcome and uninsurable. Just my 2 cents worth!
Dennis "Mike" Drake
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From: "John Dore" <dmcjohn@hotmail.com> Subject: [DML] Re: Arrest Warrant... Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 10:22:33 PDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hey Ian, You're right, the warrant was issued in Britian/N. Ireland, but there is extradition between Ireland & N. Ireland (wanted people can be arrested in Ireland for crimes committed in England/N. Ireland, and vice versa, and then transported and delivered to the people who want them), so no, I don't think John could "kiss the blarney stone"! Unless of course the authorities in the North didn't know he was in the south.... Best Wishes, John Dore, Ireland.
>From: "Ian T. A. Foster" <ian@netvigator.com> >Reply-To: dmcnews@egroups.com >To: dmcnews@egroups.com >Subject: [DML] Re: Arrest Warrant... >Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 07:44:02 +0100 > >Hi John, > >Not wishing to seem "Politically incorrect" but was this arrest warrant >issued >in Ireland or Britain/N.Ireland. Surely it was only the Brits that got >'stung' >financially by the DeLorean saga? JZD can still go kiss the Blarney Stone >if he >wants, surely?! > >I recall as a kid at Limavady Grammar School (20ish years ago) in >History/Geography Class, how the N.Ireland Industrial policy had changed >after >the DeLorean experiment ... Govt. Grants would from then on concentrate on >'local cottage industries' rather than big brash investments. > >I later worked for the architect who had built the factory at Dunmurray. We >put >forward proposals for Govt. to split it up into a number of smaller units. > >Cheers, IAN >*********************** > >John Dore wrote: > > > >Claude, you said: > > >Also did anybody realize John Z. Delorean cannot go back to Ireland > > > >because > > >there is a arrest warrant for him. > > > > Claude, its true there is a warrant for John DeLoreans arrest here in > > Ireland, but that does not mean he did anything wrong - all it means is >that > > they think they have something on him and would like to ask him to >explain > > it...again > > > > In the TV interview with him, produced by Robert Lamrock, John was asked >by > > the interviewer why he thought there was a warrant for his arrest in > > Ireland. He explained that he has already been acquitted of this charge >on 3 > > separate occasions, and since he knows he did nothing wrong, he can't > > understand the arrest warrant. He also said he feels that there is no > > justice in Northern Ireland, and he pointed out what happened to the > > Bermingham 6 & Guilford 4 (people imprisoned and abused for crimes they >did > > not commit). He has a point you know. Why should he come to Ireland, and > > risk spending years in jail for something he says (and I believe him) he >did > > not do, when his time would be much better spent working on his new car? > > > > I think its a huge pity the way things turned out for him in Ireland, >I'd > > love for him to visit me here sometime and I'd show him around, but > > unfortunately that isn't going to happen....but anyway just remember, he > > never did anything wrong, and imho he definately doesn't deserve that >arrest > > warrant. > > > > anyway, thats what I think about the "arrest warrant" - ridiculous! > > I feel better having got that off my chest! > > > > Best Wishes, > > John Dore, Ireland. > > http://homepage.tinet.ie/~johndore > > "Johns Irish DeLorean Webpage!" > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Tired of waiting for your stock quotes and charts to load? > > StockMaster is super-fast for quotes, charts, news, and portfolios. > > Markets don't wait, why should you? >http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/69 > > > > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > > http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Does your free web site address contain more letters than the alphabet? >Register a domain name with DomainDirect. A domain with NO hosting fees. >Visit http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/49 for full details. > > >eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews >http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications > >
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From: "darryl@techline.com" <darryl@techline.com> Subject: [DML] Re: tight steering Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 08:54:45 +0000 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Like Joe said it sounds like you have a problem with the column bushing at the bulkhead. I manufacture replacement bushings made from tough Delrin plastic for $10.95 plus postage ($3.00 should cover it to Scotland). They also solve most squeaks.
Darryl Tinnerstet Specialty Automotive 4 LaBelle Lane McCleary, WA 98557 PH: 360-495-4640 FAX: 360-495-4680
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From: KayoOng@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: Chrome Wheels Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 03:20:32 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dan,
Yes, you are correct, you can chrome plate aluminum. You can even chrome plastic too, but do the finish last?
For this very reason, why many people don't suggest or use the process of chrome plating aluminum. Longevity is the question! I understand that this "chroming" process for aluminum is not stable for it peels and pits faster then the surfaces that are anodized.
Heat and temperature changes will causes an electrolysis effect between the chrome material and aluminum's surfaces -- it will be inevitable. Chroming process requires a copper base for the chrome to start the process. One reason why it cost so much. Second is the labor required to polish the plated finish surface.
Aluminum as a material expands and contracts faster then the chrome surface. Stress and heat also creates premature failure for the chrome plating. Thus generating cracking and peeling. Units that requires high tolerances and that are subjected to high stress are anodized as a choice of finish.
Anodizing and does not change the balance of the unit. Chrome plating adds a new skin to the unit's surface which will help for the wear and tear. For example they chrome line cylinder's wall.
Durability and longevity is the question of realty.
I have seen failure in the area of chrome plating aluminum. Many people who understand this problem will shunt the idea of chrome plating aluminum. Unless they have UPDATED, IMPROVED or CHANGED upon this process -- forget about it.
Many people feel this is not the right direction for the money to be invested. The cost of the chrome plating aluminum process out weights the cost and the durability of anodizing. I also personally think that chrome items that are not "done right" looks gordy and tasteless.
Kayo Ong #05508 Lic 9D NY
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From: "The Raven" <scommara@geocities.com> Subject: [DML] window questions Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 01:40:45 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BC_01BE9373.A18199E0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Hey everyone, I have a few questions on my windows. First, the drivers sid= e window does not move at all, not even the motor when I hit the switch. O= ccasionally it will briefly make a noise when I tap the switch, but that's = it. That leads me to think it's a wiring problem somewhere. Is there a co= mmon problem with the windows? That might at least give me a starting poin= t. Also, the passenger side window motor moves but the window is free (Mus= t be off the track).
My second question is about the rubber on the outside of the door that out= lines the window and along the bottom of the glass. On my D it is slightly= worn in some places. I'd like to replace it to give it that new look...wh= at can I use to replace that with?
Any suggestions/comments appreciated!
sam 5616
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From: Martin Gutkowski <martin.is@connect-2.co.uk> Subject: [DML] DOC Site Update Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 23:35:25 +0100 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <19990429202949.92295.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dear All,
The DeLorean Owners Club UK website has just been updated to include shots from this weekend's International Classic Motor Show at the Birmingham NEC. I was only there for a couple of hours - thanks to the other hal! I wanted to introduce Rachel to a DeLorean and that meant going to the show on her terms. Still my revenge is that a couple of the new shots on the site are of her modelling the car...
Anyway, new pics include the Euro-spec rear tail light cluster as seen on the factory right-hand drive conversions. Also pictures of the ONLY right-hand automatic ever to leave the factory. This is the car mentioned in a post to the DML a while ago after a picture was found in a book. It also has unique side indicators to replace the running lights.
Please check out the Club Gallery and Members Cars pages.
Best Wishes,
Martin
http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk
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From: rcensfield@voyager.net Subject: [DML] Grey vinyl Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 20:08:34 -0000 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Anyone know of a grey vinyl source to match the grey vinyl Delorean interior?
Thanks,
Bob Ensfield
6077
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From: "yugoman" <mdrig@email.msn.com> Subject: [DML] Car Show Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 20:08:25 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Entered my 81 in a car show in Winston-Salem today. very surprised to take second place in Special Interest/Race Cars. I didn't have much time this morning to prepare, took it to the car wash and Lexol'ed the seats, that was about it. It got lots of attention and questions, and a lady with a camcorder filmed it and said it would be on Forsyth County's public access TV. The car that took first was a gorgeous blue 67 Shelby 427 Cobra, so I was really shocked to even be in the same league! This is the same show that my wife's Bricklin took second place two years ago, so now both our gullwings are show winners:^)
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From: brian metz <metz.50@osu.edu> Subject: [DML] California Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 23:19:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Is there anyone in California near Victorville? I will be out in California (all the way from Ohio)in a couple of weeks (May 17-20) and wondered if there was anyone in the area. I will be flying out, so I wont have #16584 with me. E-mail me privately if you are in the area and maybe we can get together or chat one day. Thanx, Brian #16584
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From: "." <jdl@interax.com> Subject: [DML] No Subject Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 14:17:19 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Neil, If you have a company that can reliably re-fill struts for 1/10th the = price, I bet you would have a lot of business from this list and other D = owners! We all have used struts sitting around- and we all have spent = hundreds if not thousands of dollars over the years on struts. If you = have that company name, e-mail, phone and address- even if they need to = be sent to the UK- that would be a very valuable thing!=20 David Levey=20 Cleveland, Ohio The fact that the problem is worse in cold weather would emply that the = problem is the strut as the gas is not expanding as much as it should = in the coldweather and many years has reduced the level ( I had the same = thing) I got new sruts from Delorean1 and although quite expensive were = as perfect as you would expect ,however afterwards I came across an = advert for a company that re fills the gas in them for around a tenth of = the cost so try and look down that street first.
Neil in Scotland 2119
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From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@lorainccc.edu> Subject: [DML] DML: Answers to Window Questions Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 10:09:57 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The Raven has power window problems:
> First, the drivers side window does not move at all, not even the motor > when I hit the switch. Occasionally it will briefly make a noise when I > tap the switch, but that's it. That leads me to think it's a wiring problem > somewhere.
This sounds like a classic window switch contact problem to me. Your contacts are probably dirty or corroded.
> Also, the passenger side window motor moves but the window is free > (Must be off the track).
So your passenger side must have a good switch. The first thing to try is swapping the two switches. If this causes your driver's side window to work then the your problem is with the contacts in the switch. Try cleaning it (be very careful when snapping it open, don't lose any parts!). If the contacts are really shot then you may need to find a replacement switch.
And yes, your passenger side window is probably off of its tracks.
- Mike Substelny VIN 1280
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From: KayoOng@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: chrome wheels, Bricklins Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 13:43:40 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Darryl,
You are right! You can chrome aluminum.
You are a man with many experiences in this industry and you are highly respected. You do have may respect with the DeLorean marque.
I guess my reply on chroming aluminum material has not reached the DML site that I sent several days ago to reply to another DMLer. The topic was on chroming aluminum material. Again, chroming aluminum is still a process that is not easy and not highly recommended for durability and longevity by the chromers in the industry (I checked with my chromers, can they all be wrong? I would like to know for my info.)
Yes, you are right, many people do make a living doing so. Many people do many "other things" and sell it too, whether it is "right or wrong." The people who do these services and may not or will not tell you all the advantages and disadvantages to these processes. (I like to see the warrantee program they offer with their services or products.)
On a debate of a same level, but on a different subject, it is like people painting DeLorean motorcars. It can be done. People do it for a living too. But let us look at the reality of painting stainless steel. The "process and the effort" to do so is more demanding than the standard steel bodies. But it has been done. With the "modern" formulated paints that is available today, the painting of stainless steel, aluminum even flexible materials is a reality that was an impossibility many years ago.
Many people painted their cars for the reasons they want "colors" to their cars or they could not afford to change the damaged parts. Painting in this case was their way out.
The world is moving very fast in the development of technologies and research. Maybe they do have a "new" process or procedure in the chroming of aluminum. If so, I would like to know of the company or person that can teach or inform me of the process. Like painting of difficult materials is now a reality, maybe chroming aluminum has come to age and the "old" standard of chroming aluminum is a thing of the past? I was always like to learn and know more.
Thanks for the update.
Kayo Ong #05508 Lic 9D NY
PS Have you the time to do engine conversions yet?
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From: Luke.Sandel@cmich.edu Subject: [DML] Re: DML: Trim (To Paint or not to Paint) Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 20:29:41 -0000 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <e75bb2a5.245bb290@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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> All exterior black -- front and rear bumpers, rocker sides panels, windows > trim, front windshield trim, louvers, engine cover, left and right rear > engine to window panel, front air scoop, rear exhaust skirt, rear license > plate frame, tail light assemblies and the front grill. These areas will > require about 8 to 12 hours and 8 to 10 cans of spray paint.
Krylon on the bumpers? Does that really work very well? It doesn't seem like a very flexable paint. Has anybody actually tried it, and had good results?
Luke
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From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@eclipse.net> Subject: [DML] Painted DeLoreans... Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:51:14 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
snip----->On a debate of a same level, but on a different subject, it is = like people=20 painting DeLorean motorcars. It can be done. People do it for a living = too.=20 But let us look at the reality of painting stainless steel. The = "process=20 and the effort" to do so is more demanding than the standard steel = bodies. =20 But it has been done. With the "modern" formulated paints that is = available=20 today, the painting of stainless steel, aluminum even flexible materials = is a=20 reality that was an impossibility many years ago. <-----snip
Kayo, My car was painted back in 1981 when it was brand new at the dealer. It = has not flaked off at all. The paint is still sticking and would still = be in perfect condition today if it was properly maintained. = Unfortunately, it was left outside and neglected for a few years. This = resulted in damage to the paint, which is a lacquer base coat/clear coat = system. Certain sections of the car have been saved and brought back to = a beautiful shine, but other "high exposure" areas were not fixable. The = car still looks great, but it's not perfect. It can be seen at this = website: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm It is the first = series of pics on the page. So, as you can see, the technology was there = back then, but it was new and still in it's experimental stage. Today, = there are much better materials that should be used.=20 By the way, my car wasn't painted because it was hit, it was painted = this color scheme beacause of some famous or semi-famouse car racer back = then who used those colors on his race cars. That's all I know. I would = like to find out more, but this is all I know for now. If anyone else = knows any possible historical information or recognizes my car from = years ago, please let me know. Thanks. ---Dan Vin#5493
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From: "hondopark1" <hondopark1@email.msn.com> Subject: [DML] looking for owners Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:17:23 -0500 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BE9580.6D551E80" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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john yerskey/ bill winegard in Dallas,Tx . We are trying to organize a Sou= thwest Delorean owners get-to-gether looking for any owners in tx,ok,la,nm,= ar, that we can contact to try and have a meeting possible organize club ( = centered in Dallas.?) Stephen Wynne said he would love to see us get somet= hing started and would come up for a tech or to answer any questions . Any = help with names would be appreciated! hondopark1@aol.com we now hav= e an 83 vin # 15596 thanks
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From: CBL302@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: chrome wheels, Bricklins Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:19:00 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 5/3/99 9:36:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, darryl@techline.com writes:
<< As for Bricklins, I had for years wanted to own one just so I could compare it to the DeLorean (and get pictures of the two, doors up, side-by-side in my driveway). I finally got my chance - a few years ago I picked up a very low mileage car for only $4,000. Another DeLorean owner and I were going to go halves on it, but at the last minute he chickened out. It was a very early car, ugly Suntan color, with the AMC drivetrain. It still had the slow hydraulic doors and some significant damage to the top of the door skins, but otherwise was quite nice. But it was like driving a Javelin. It also felt like a thrown-together kit car, and it got many more comments than the DeLorean ever did - only they were all negative. The one I loved was that it "looked like a Saab eating an eight-track tape". Anyway, it was probably the worst car I have ever owned, and after a long two months or so I was able to persuade my formally reluctant "partner" to take it off my hands. And in keeping with my often-repeated statement of having "never >>
On the Bricklin issue,I must say as in any car there are always lemons,and you happened to get the lemon in the pack,there are also Deloreans that are lemons, I happen to own two Bricklins,and I love them as much as I like my Deloreans,just because you had a bad experience with one Bricklin,don't make it sound as if all Bricklins are cobbled together cars,you must remember,as with any older sports car it depends on how well the pervious owners abused or how well they took care of the car,a friend of mine just bought a Porsche 928( 1979)(62,000miles)and the car looks and runs better than a new Porsche,I have seen and driven abused Deloreans and let me tell you,when a Delorean is abused and negeleted,it is no better off than a abused Bricklin.Don't put down a perticular car unless you have more than one experience and years(at least 5years)with ownership of that car to qualify you to put down that perticular car.And I have had a minimum ownership of both the Delorean and the Bricklin 18 years.
Claude Bricklin Vin# 1024 /1136 Delorean 000570 / 05688 Vin# 06383 / 10554 Plus two others sold plus two parts cars
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From: LovDMC12@aol.com Subject: [DML] Car Show in Charleston, SC Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:25:29 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The British Car Club of Charleston, South Carolina is having its annual Car Show on June 5 at Charlestown Landing. I emailed the person in charge, and they seemed very interested in having a DeLorean at the show. I just wanted to let everyone know in case any of you wanted to go too.
Michael Carnell is the contact person at (843)-766-9226
Fax (843)-720-1277
Their web address is
www.palmettobug.com/bcc
Michael's email address is: bcc@palmettobug.com
I hope to see some of you there.
Brian VIN 1597
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From: NELLYMAC1@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: No Subject Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:29:29 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
David ,
I will look the address out for you all this weekend and post it on the board (it really was THAT cheap)
on another point has anyone got a new steering wheel going cheap? regards Neil in Scotland 2119
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From: NELLYMAC1@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: No Subject Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:26:28 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
just how much are you all paying for struts over there?
neil in Scotland 2119
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From: ABatt10347@aol.com Subject: [DML] Townsend TN show Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:35:05 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
A great thanks to the 4 other Delorean owners who made the show. We had 5 D's and were given a class of our own. Sean H. (1st), Joe P. (2nd) and Scott M. (3rd). It is always good to meet other owners and exchange a few stories. Bob and Vicki Miller made the 6+ hour to attend. Thanks again to all those that made it. See you again next year. Bruce Battles Vin # 6569
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From: ABatt10347@aol.com Subject: [DML] Townsend show part 2 Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:54:04 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I was just sent a site link that has the photo of the 5 D's at the Townsend show, if you are interested it is <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Zoo/1987/townsend.html">Townsend 1999 </A> . Bruce Battles Vin# 6569
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From: DeLorean31@aol.com Subject: [DML] Engine Vent Cover Hinge Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 19:56:22 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I was wondering if anyone knows of the best fix for the following problem. I have searched the back issues but not a found a related post. On the engine vent cover there are two hinge brackets. There are two bolts on each bracket that bolt to the engine vent cover. one of my bolts came off when I was snugging up the nut. It looks like the bolt is actually only a threaded stud tacked onto the hinge bracket. Has anyone had a similar problem where the bolt has come off the bracket? If so I was wondering how they fixed it. I was worried about tack welding it back on because there is such a small area to work with and also I did not want to damage the finish on the hinge. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Gary VIN 3360
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From: Michel Poulin <mpoulin@poulincomm.com> Subject: [DML] Cimbria SS Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 21:11:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ In-Reply-To: <ce5106d2.245f9274@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I was looking through an old issue (DEC'81) of Car and Driver that pitted the DeLorean against 4 other cars... once done reading the headline story, I flipped through the book and found a layout on the Cimbria SS, while mostly a kit car similar to many others at that time (VW frame, fiberglass body) this one had gullwing doors and a similar shape to the bricklin while useing a rear engine design. I'm trying to get more info on this car. If possible, I'd like to find one still on the road. -=mike=-
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From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@eclipse.net> Subject: [DML] Rear rims for trade/sale Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 21:22:02 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I acquired a rear pair of original DeLorean rims. I am in need of a = dashboard and binnacle replacement. I would be interested in a trade if = someone is interested. If not, I might be interested in selling the pair = so I could purchase a replacement dash and binnacle. So, if you are = interested, e-mail me privately with an offer. Thanks. ---Dan
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From: Mike03062@aol.com Subject: [DML] Painting a DeLorean Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 21:55:41 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I am sorry, but As I search for "D" I would not consider buying a painted Delorean. The Stainless Steel "Illusion" is exactly that - the car is Stainless Steel. I guess I am a purist, but owners who take a sabre saw and cut the dashboard to install some kickass stereo system should be executed ! I could live with the updates but I believe the true value of the DeLorean is to keep it as stock as possible. Another editorial comment!
Dennis "Mike" Drake
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From: KayoOng@aol.com Subject: [DML] Re: Painted DeLoreans... Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 23:38:15 EDT X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In a message dated 5/3/99 6:36:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Jerry1@eclipse.net writes:
<< ttp://home.tampabay.rr.com/deloreans/index.htm >>
Dan,
Two questions.
First, are the rims that are in pictures the original rims and the same as the ones that are issued with all DeLoreans from the factory?
Second, what is that sticker or plate that is on front fenders just before the doors?
It is hard to tell from the pictures on your web site.
Kayo Ong #05508 Lic 9D NY
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From: bkreisle@accessus.net Subject: [DML] Blown Fuse, help! Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 22:41:27 -0500 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I was driving the D lastnight and I noticed a funny smell. I took it home and forgot about it. I took it out the next day and not a mile down the way it died. I tried to start it but it wont stay running. It will fire for a sec or two but when I hit the gas it dies. I opened the fuse box behind the passenger seat and instantly remembered the funny smell. There was a 20A glass fuse in a white holder that had melted. The original fuse box has a melted fuse slot (w/o a fuse in it) on the top middle row. Could this be a workaround for the melted fuse box slot? I assume this is for the fuel pump? I havent had a chance to replace the fuse yet but if I do I still want to know why it got so hot. Any help?
Thank you, Brad. --
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From: Russell Hughes <Rusk@stainless.co.uk> Subject: [DML] Re: DML: Trim (To Paint or not to Paint) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:26:29 +0100 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
No! Wait!
DON'T use Back to Black! Unless you live in the land of permanent sunshine! I put B2B on my D last Summer and it looked great...until it rained. Every shower caused it to run down the side of the car (from the plastic panels behind the windows). It took ages to get off and for every time I got caught in rain there was a furious scrubbing session to follow! Even now there's a faint mark where it's legacy lives...
Be Warned! Especially if you live in the UK!!
Rusk
> -----Original Message----- > From: Marc A Levy [SMTP:malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com] > Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 10:37 PM > To: dmcnews@egroups.com > Subject: [DML] Re: DML: Trim (To Paint or not to Paint) > > I like "Back to black". I think it is sold by Mothers Gold. > > > raynet@home.net wrote: > > > > Ok possible dumb question coming so bear with me... > > > > As with any thing that sits out for a while in the sun, alot of the > outer trim including mirrors, louvers, around the door locks, bumpers, > and front windshield are faded. Now the question is how to get them > looking like new. Armor All only does so much and rinses off in the > rain. Is there something I can put on to restore them or should I > just paint them... Ideas and suggestions are welcome... > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Does your free web site address contain more letters than the > alphabet? > Register a domain name with DomainDirect. A domain with NO hosting > fees. > Visit http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/49 for full details. > > > eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/group/dmcnews > http://www.eGroups.com - Simplifying group communications >
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From: raynet@home.net Subject: [DML] Extra Steering Rack Anyone?? Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 14:13:16 -0000 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
<html>Ok crazy question time... After carefull examination it has been deemed I will have to replace my steering rack... Now for the crazy part. Anyone out there happen to have a extra steering rack that they wouldn't mind parting with? P.J Grady has reconditioned ones for $400, but after spending $1500 in engine, brake, and electrical work, I'm running a little low on funds. Or if someone has a damaged rack that has a good outer tie rod end and pinion bearing on the drivers side that would solve my problem for now.<br> <br> Raymond McKay<br> Network Administrator<br> Funnybone Interactive<br> <br> VIN # 3705<br> See it at <br> <a href=http://24.2.178.159>http://24.2.178.159</a> </html>
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From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: [DML] Re: DML: Trim (To Paint or not to Paint) Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 10:43:55 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <E1C0A3EDDB0FD111A3030080C864228B49E914@BEELZEBUB> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I may have goofed up the product names.
The "Back to Black" product I think is used by some to make the tires black again. This is NOT what I used. It kinda looks like black paint. I did buy it, but never used it.
The product I did use is something I had laying around for a while. It may have been "Black Chrome", or something like that. Recently, Mothers Gold has a similar product they sell. I purchased it this weekend, but have not tried it yet.
The product I used holds up well in the rain, and does not leave any drips.
Russell Hughes wrote: > > No! Wait! > > DON'T use Back to Black! Unless you live in the land of permanent > sunshine! I put B2B on my D last Summer and it looked great...until it > rained. Every shower caused it to run down the side of the car (from > the plastic panels behind the windows). It took ages to get off and for > every time I got caught in rain there was a furious scrubbing session to > follow! Even now there's a faint mark where it's legacy lives... > > Be Warned! Especially if you live in the UK!! >
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From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@eclipse.net> Subject: [DML] Re: Painted DeLoreans... Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:49:01 -0400 X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE961C.2A457BC0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Kayo, =09They are the factory original rims. They are just painted. The sticker y= ou are referring to is actually the "DMC" logo airbrushed on the fender. Al= so, it's not my website. It's Brian Henderlong's. He deserves the credit. I= t's a nice site. ---Dan
---------- From: =09KayoOng@aol.com[SMTP:KayoOng@aol.com] Sent: =09Monday, May 03, 1999 11:38 PM To: =09dmcnews@egroups.com Subject: =09[DML] Re: Painted DeLoreans...
In a message dated 5/3/99 6:36:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, =
Jerry1@eclipse.net writes:
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Dan, =
Two questions.
First, are the rims that are in pictures the original rims and the same as =
the ones that are issued with all DeLoreans from the factory?
Second, what is that sticker or plate that is on front fenders just before =
the doors?
It is hard to tell from the pictures on your web site.
Kayo Ong #05508 Lic 9D NY
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From: jason@moberg.com Subject: [DML] Re: Cimbria SS Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 11:44:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailing-List: dmcnews@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/dmcnews/ MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990503210555.21674A-100000@linux2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 04-May-99 Michel Poulin wrote: > I was looking through an old issue (DEC'81) of Car and Driver that pitted > the DeLorean against 4 other cars... once done reading the headline story, > I flipped through the book and found a layout on the Cimbria SS, while > mostly a kit car similar to many others at that time (VW frame, fiberglass > body) this one had gullwing doors and a similar shape to the bricklin > while useing a rear engine design. I'm trying to get more info on this > car. If possible, I'd like to find one still on the road. > -=mike=- >
I looked at one of these while I was car shopping, before I bought my DeLorean.It was built on a 1968 or 69 Porsche frame, with a 1972 911 Porsche engine. The car was FAST, and handled well, but the brakes were pretty bad. Whoever built it had used drum brakes on all wheels, and on top of that I they needed some work.
It had a very kit car feel to it. Since this is the only one I've
seen close up, I don't know how much of that was due to design
and how much to the workmanship of the builder. The seats and
armrests are basically cushions resting on the floor. There was a
separate switch for raising and lowering the headlights, and they
moved rather slow. The outside door handles are just recesses
into the fiberglass, with little metal pushbuttons to open the
doors.
The DeLorean is more finished, comfortable, has better visibility (especially out the back), and of course has the stainless steel body. The Cimbria has more wow factor in its performance (though I don t know about the VW powered ones).
Basically, I think the DeLorean is more nice car, and the Cimbria is more toy.
- J
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