DeLorean Mailing List - 2/5/97



dmcnews-digest	Wednesday, 5 February 1997	Volume 02 : Number 210

In this issue:
Anybody hauling a DeLorean in Mo. last week?
New DeLorean FAQ posted
Re: PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT?
Re: fascia refinishing
Flowmaster
Emissions (was Re: PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT?)
Re: Transmission Troubles
Re:EURO PRV
[none]
Re: Emissions (was Re: PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT?)
Re: DMC Parts Online
Re: DeLorean Survey
DeLorean Parts
1983 DeLorean for sale
Re: Parts Availability Clarified
Cheap DeLorean
Re: Compilation of VIN #s
DeLorean Stereo
Delorean Collectables
Starting problems...
Re: Starting problems...
Re: DeLorean Parts
Re:EURO PRV
ski rack
Re: Starting problems...
Removing Paint, JZD Interview, Dutch Owners
Re: ski rack
Emissions readings in general and oxygen sensors (DMC)
Re:EURO PRV
ABE want matches
Re: Emissions readings in general and oxygen sensors (DMC) 

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From: GullWinged@aol.com
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 03:25:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: Anybody hauling a DeLorean 
in Mo. last week? 

Hey All:

My younger brother was coming back from Tulsa, Oklahoma on Sunday night and said 
he saw a Ryder truck (or the like) hauling a DeLorean behind it on the highway 
near Springfield, Missouri. Just curious if it was anybody on this list, or if 
anyone knew who it was? 

~ Chase



"Imagination is a shortcut through the process of trial and error." 
Brenda Laurel - author of "Computers as Theater" 




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From: Knut S Grimsrud  Date: Thu, 30 Jan 97 
07:59:00 PST
Subject: New DeLorean FAQ posted

I have a new working DeLorean FAQ posted that now also features some interesting 
DMC documents. The FAQ can be found at: 

http://www.valzog.com/delorean/faq/faq/faq.htm 

I belive James also has the FAQ posted, but I was not able to follow the link to 
get to it, so try the above address instead if you are interested.

This FAQ will continue to grow quite a bit over the next while as I get more DMC 
documents digitized and incorporated into the page. Thanks to Dave Takeuchi for 
getting the materials online. 

If you have questions or comments feel free to drop me a line. 


Knut Grimsrud
DOA Chapter 41


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From: STANDLOR@aol.com
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:52:59 -0500 (EST) 
Subject: Re: PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT?

In a message dated 97-01-30 10:27:26 EST, Calducati@aol.com writes: 

<< David
ASE Master Auto Technician
California License Smog Technician

David-
Glad to see you on the horn! Do you have any ideas on how I can get my car
to pass emissions in Ariz.? I have done a complete 50,000 mile tune up, i.e.
I have changed the plugs, wires, dist. cap, rotor, timed the car, installed
new O rings (while doing all of the above), put in new fuel injectors, adjusted 
the CO to read 0.1 as in originial factory settings, and still flunk
the new emissions test. If the CO and CO2 are good the particles are not, etc. 
Any ideas? Of course our new testing proceedures are about the same as
Calif. except perhaps that it is done by a State Agency and under load. It
is a drive test wheras the driver uses different speeds and follows a computer 
pattern as if he were driving up and down a mountain. Stan


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From: "Marvin S. Sterling"  Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 00:12:02 -0800
Subject: Re: fascia refinishing

David Olson wrote:

>I would like to hear what is the common wisdom and experience on repainting and refinishing
>the front and rear fascia on the Delorean. I have seen the Delorean World Tech notes,
>however I would like to hear how comfortable even of you would be having your standard
>body shop do the work. I understand that the paint or the process has to be done in such a
>way to insure that the can be plenty of flex so the paint doesn't peel in the future. Here in
>central Wisconsin there is no one that regularly works on the car. Anybody out there with
>some experience on this?
>David Olson vin 11594

- ----------------------------------------- Dave,
I had my front fascia repaired and repainted by a foreign custim specialty shop; however, 
most, if not all, new car front fascias are flexible material and any good paint shop 
should know how to do the job since they deal with the flex problem all of the time. 
Regards,
Marv Sterling

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From: jason74@juno.com (Jason T Brown)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 04:00:07 PST
Subject: Flowmaster

Is it even possible to put a flowmaster on a delorean without the taipipes coming out 
the back? Is anybody going on a road trip through the central part of NC? If they are 
would you mind coming to my house and showing me your delorean? If you want the address 
I can give it to you.

Jason


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From: Calducati@aol.com
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:09:33 -0500 (EST) 
Subject: Emissions (was Re: PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT?) 

Stan,

What are the HC and O2 readings comng out of the tailpipe? What emissions readings 
is the car failing on? What are the limits? Are they testing for
NOx emissions? Are they running your car on a chassis dyno, where they are
taking readings out the tailpipe while the rear wheels are driving a large drum? 
I'll help you in any way I can. Quick background: I manage a independent repair 
shop in Rohnert Park, CA north of San Fransico. I do not
own a Delorean, but would like to. I am a ASE certfiied Master Automobile Technician, 
a license Smog Technician and Inspector, a ASE certified Parts Specialist, I am a 
once in a while radio talk show guest, etc, etc......But,
let me assure you that I am no expert in the automotive industry. I do not
believe that any one person can be an expert in an Industry as diverse and ever 
changing as the automotive industry. My first love is my wife and son,
then comes motorcycling, and then automobiles like the Delorean. 

Sincerely,

David (calducati@aol.com)


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From: Mpeak@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:24:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Transmission Troubles

Scott,

I have to second everything Mike Substelny has said about your problems. A
lack of oil in your transmission case would most likely cause a more significant 
and sudden problem than the ones you mentioned, such as welding
itself together, much like an oil-less engine crankcase. A suggestion would
be to look at your clutch slave cylinder (If I remember correctly it's located 
above the transmission) and lift the seal up to see if that is where
the leak is coming from. I know mine is faulty and needs to be replaced and
it's just a matter of money before I do it. When I lifted up the seal, a 
significant amount of clutch fluid fell out, showing that the small leak had
been pooling there for a while.

- -Matt


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From: AARON1@webtv.net (AARON MILLS)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 16:00:11 -0500
Subject: Re:EURO PRV

I have come across a new engine that the owner claims is a euro prv. He says that 
Delorean was putting these in the last few DMCs and they have 25-35% more power 
than the original u.s. engines. Can any one give me info. on these engines? Will 
I have to do any modifcations to install in my '82?

Aaron Mills
DOA 4748
VIN 011554


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From: CDI USAMPS
Date: 97-01-30 16:43:07 EST
Subject: [none]

Got a few questions: What ever happened to the Delorean CD rom that was supposed 
to come out? Anyone have any info on buying other than Yokohama tires for the 
Delo (Same tread front and rear). Any info on a supercharger
that fits the Delo? Thanks. BILL

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From: STANDLOR@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:21:35 -0500 (EST) 
Subject: Re: Emissions (was Re: PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT?) 

David-
Thanks for the reply. What I have done is take the one time exception in order 
to get my licence tags for the next two years! However, I still don't
know what else to do to pass emissions!
Without having set my CO with a metered machine, I had been turning the CO either 
leaner or richer, trying to hit the correct mark. What was happening
was the HC was 2.87- the CO was 15.3- Gms/Mile of Equiv. CO2 was 453.6 Gpm-
the NO grams/mile equiv. of NO was 5.1 Gpm. When I went back after failing test 
and the man told me that I was too rich,
and I reset it to leaner, the results were HC= 2.32 CO= 65.6 Gpm CO2= 428.7 NO= 1.2 

Of course the standards are as follows
HC= 2.00 gpm CO= 30.0 gpm CO2= 428.7 gpm NO = 3.0 gpm. 

I have now used a meter to set my car at the factory setting of 0.1 on the CO, 
which of course gives me lousy milage, but it is at the facory setting for above.

Help.
Stan

C


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From: Nick Storr  Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1970 11:00:00 +1100
Subject: Re: DMC Parts Online

>>1). About 1-2 months ago, I placed an inquiry for an order to that DMC Parts
>>Online place (not Kapac). I still have not heard anything from this place.
>>What has been other peoples experiences? 

>I have also placed an inquiry with DMC Parts and have not recieved a reply. 
It's been a month or so...I went ahead submitted my inquiry with Kapac.


Me too, about 1 - 2 months ago, and no reply. Does Kapac have a WWW site or
do I need to use mail or the telephone?

Nick Storr


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From: GullWinged@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 12:59:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: DeLorean Survey

Jason:

Just catching up on some old email and saw your "survey." My '81 DeLorean is now 
my only car and I do attempt to drive it every day, although my girlfriend and 
family will gladly testify that they have had to "haul" me around perhaps 10-20 
times this past year because something was broken on the car and in the process 
of being repaired. I believe the car is dependable if purchased and brought up 
to specs before putting it on the road everyday. In my case, I was unable to do 
this and am slowly doing the restoration as time and money allows. 

Any more questions, just let me know.

~ Chase Clark

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From: CDIUSAMPS@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:44:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: DeLorean Parts

I understand there is a car dealer in N.J. that still has an inventory of DMC
parts, does anyone know the dealership name, location and possibly the phone
number? Thanks BILL

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From: Rene Richter, 100637.326@compuserve.com Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:31:04 -0500 (EST) 
Subject: 1983 DeLorean for sale

***GERMANY***

Built 1983
Automatic transmission
Black leather interior
7500 miles
Excellent shape
TUEV and AU from Sebtember (Technical inspection and emission metering) All manuals 
availible
Owner has to sell it because he is handicapped due to a ski accident 2 month ago.
The car is in Blackforest.

Please contact me:
Rene Richter
Richter@poboxes.com



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From: GullWinged@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 12:58:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Parts Availability Clarified 

>However, I do disagree with your statement that some parts are not available 
anymore. I have not been able to find one part that was needed for the repair of 
my car, that has not been available when ordered from our reliable and available 
Delorean Parts supplier. Not one! 

While this statement is true for this particular owner, that does not mean that 
EVERY one of the 2,700 odd parts are still available or whereabouts known. 
According to Jerry Rine at KAPAC there are about 100 parts that they no longer 
have available in original stock. A few of these parts are available as 
cross-reference, while others have been remanufactured on orders of DMC specialists 
like D1, DMC-Houston and PJ Grady. A few unobtainable parts such as the fuel-line 
couplings and angle drive are unavailable except as reconditioned parts. 

I know for a fact that KAPAC does not have a full set of any of the carpet 
patterns used in the DeLorean, nor do they have an ample supply of fiberglass 
sections, although they do have the original tubs so that it may be possible to 
create more some day if demand necessitates. 

~ Chase



"Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to read."
--Groucho Marx






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From: Nick Storr  Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1970 11:00:00 +1100
Subject: Cheap DeLorean

Hi All,

This may sound like a strange request, but I am after a DeLorean in ANY condition 
whatsoever as long as the body is straight. Due to the import and
RHD conversion issues discussed here previously, I've all but given up hope
of properly owning one of these cars (at least until i win the lottery), but surely 
there's a car out there that is beyond "proper" restoration. 

I have thought about building a lookalike, and I am confident it would be within my 
expertise (I have built 2 cars from scratch before) but the main problem would be 
the SS panels. The closest material I have any experience working with is Aluminium, 
which would look ok, but not quite "right". So if there's a car out there that's 
beyond help and I can use as a basis for this project of mine, I'd love to hear 
about it. 

Thanks...

Nick Storr

PS: I know this probably sounds crazy to a lot of you, but put yourself in my 
shoes... A "real" DeLorean costs about $100,000 over here! 


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From: GullWinged@aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 12:58:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Compilation of VIN #s

>Eric.J.Hennebury  wrote a LONG TIME AGO... 

>Is anyone from KAPAC on line here? Perhaps they could provide solid information 
on VIN ranges, quantities, and intents. Wouldn't it be cool to comprise a VIN map 
from the first to the last with a corresponding build calendar and special mention 
given to unusual cars? 

Actually during my visit with Jerry Rine at KAPAC's warehouse a few months ago, 
he pulled out a list that showed all VIN #s produced and the key codes for each 
car. I also know that Rine is attempting to purchase the remaining "huge" 
inventory of original parts. Next time I visit with him I will inquire about 
obtaining a copy of the list and start an inventory of cars built, VIN #s skipped 
and current owners where applicable and discoverable.

~ Chase Clark (using a temporarily email address) 


"We don't need a rocket scientist to figure it out, but we have one!" 
- Dr.K.




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From: Scott Tester  Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 
01:25:56 -0500 (EST) 
Subject: DeLorean Stereo

I was wondering if it would be possable to install a two unit stereo intoa
Delorean without doing any defacing of the interior? The two unit I would 
consider has a CD Player on top and a Digital Graphic Equalizer on the bottom.

Thanks!

Scott Tester testersd@appstate.campus.mci.net (Future DeLorean Owner) 



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From: WINGD2@aol.com
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 01:41:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Delorean Collectables

I found a company in Seattle that has a neat little Delorean collectable. 
It's 1/92 scale ( about 2" long ) and is cast from a resin and
aluminum powder mix. It looks just like pewter and has a felt bottom base. 
There are no moving parts but it does have super detail. It's made in England
and sells for $11.00 ea.
The company is "Morris Manor Collectables" and their phone/fax is 206-891-2775. 
Ask for Lori. They also have about 100 other British cars that are a part of 
this series. Just ask her for your favorites. 

Marty Maier


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From: Jason Winter 
Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 18:26:13 -0600
Subject: Starting problems...

I am having some trouble with the Delorean starting when it cools off.. It is 
hard to explain the problem, but I will try: 1. The car starts fine after it 
sets for a long time(day). 2. The trouble comes when the car has been running 
for a little while and you kill it. It will start right back, but after a few 
minutes it will just spin over. We checked the fuel pump and it is pumping-ie 
the pump is on and the line pressures up(I was told it could be the check valve 
on the pump).
3. If I put jumpercables on the car, it usuallly starts in the situation above.
4. The relays have been upgraded to the Bosche ones. 5. Finally, If you keep 
turning the key on and off it will begain to try to start.
We are leaning on the side of the problem being electrical(ie coil, dist). If 
anyone can be of help on this problem I would appreciate it. It sucks when the 
car starts fine in the garage, but after you come out of a store of fill up 
with gas it wont start... 

I hope I have explained the problem well enough for some advice.. 
Jason Winter
Winter@onramp.net
Vin 5203 ('81)


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From: ausmith@pdx.oneworld.com
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:30:08 +0000
Subject: Re: Starting problems...

Jason,

It sounds to me like it probably is the check valve. This is not part of the fuel 
pump. It's function is to keep the pressure up in the fuel system at the engine. 
If the pressure drops while the engine is at normal operating temp. the fuel boils 
creating a vapor lock. Pressure raises the temp. at which the fuel will boil. 

The other possibilities, from personal experience, are loose plugs at the 
"computer" boxes behind the drivers seat. There is the same cover as behind the 
passenger seat. Remove it and check all the plugs. 

Going back, on the DeLorean the check valve appears to be called a "fuel accumulator". 
In the book at 2/1/0 its #39. 

Chris


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From: Kevin MacDougall  Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 14:46:40 -0500
Subject: Re: DeLorean Parts

Not in NJ but Partka Chevrolet in Hamden CT. has a good stock of parts... 

At 11:44 PM 2/1/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I understand there is a car dealer in N.J. that still has an inventory of DMC 
parts, does anyone know the dealership name, location and possibly the phone number? 
Thanks BILL




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From: BRUCE BENSON  Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:30:09 +0000
Subject: Re:EURO PRV

At 09:00 PM 2/1/97 +0000, you wrote:
>I have come across a new engine that the owner claims is a euro prv. He says 
that Delorean was putting these in the last few DMCs and they have 25-35% more 
power than the original u.s. engines. Can any one give me info. on these engines? 
Will I have to do any modifcations to install in my '82?

>Aaron Mills
>DOA 4748
>VIN 011554


The U.S. spec engine was 130 hp. I've seen European road tests that claimed
150 horse power. I'd guess the difference lies with fuel system and ignition
timing changes that aren't encumbered with meeting the stringent U.S. emission 
requirements. I'd bet the internal parts of both engines are the same. You could 
more than likely achieve the Euro specs with out swapping engines.

Bruce Benson



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From: Kevin MacDougall  Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 20:11:23 -0500
Subject: ski rack

has anyone ever seen or had a delorean ski-rack sold by dealerships 

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From: BRUCE BENSON  Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:14:24 +0000
Subject: Re: Starting problems...

At 07:30 AM 2/3/97 +0000, you wrote:
>Jason,
>Going back, on the DeLorean the check valve appears to be called a "fuel 
accumulator". In the book at 2/1/0 its #39. 

>Chris



The check valve is at the fuel pump. Early cars had the valve built into the
pump while later cars and replacement pumps have the valve mounted externally. 
The check valve is just a one way valve to keep the fuel from returning to the 
pump when the system is pressurized. The accumulator is located in the fuel line 
about midway between the pump and the engine. It has a spring loaded diaphragm 
inside which is compressed when the pump is running and when the pump is off 
the spring pushes against the diaphragm thus keeping enough pressure in the 
fuel system to open the injectors when the engine is started. The fuel pump 
only runs a few seconds during cranking
unless the engine starts. This is to prevent flooding. If lack of fuel pressure 
is the problem, cranking beyond the first 5 or 6 seconds is not doing anything. 
Instead, crank for about 5 seconds, turn off the key, then crank for another 5 
seconds. Eventually enough fuel pressure should build to
get the engine started. If the car doesn't start hot the problem probably lies 
with fuel pump check valve. The accumulator could also be the culprit but I 
understand the check valve is the more common cause. Starting problems
when cold are most likely caused by a bad thermo time switch which fires the
cold start valve to enrich the dose of fuel for cold starts. 

Bruce Benson



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From: michael richard pack  Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:42:37 -0500 (EST) 
Subject: Removing Paint, JZD Interview, Dutch Owners 

We have a car that was painted by Ferrari of Washington D.C. It is brand new, and 
has less than 10,000 miles on the clock. It needs all of the regular TLC & hose 
replacement etc, etc. We would like to restore the skin to stainless, and we have 
considered the removal of each panel, dipped in paint remover and then rebrushed. 
Is this something anyone out there has done before? Is it possible?

John DeLorean when I last talked with him, is selling an interview that will be 
sold through the DeLorean World. The tape is in the last stages of editing, and 
covers everything.

I would like to get in touch with Frank Lommen & Wendy Peeters of Venray 
Netherlands. If you do subscribe to the list, please write to my address. If 
there are other Dutch list members please do the same. I would like to get a 
copy of the "Blip op de weg" Dutch TV program. The interview was 06/17/94. 
Broadcast date ?/?/95. Ref. Delorean World Vol.12 Number 1.'95 page 12 "Dutch 
DeLorean on TV." 



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From: James Espey 
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 97 19:25:33 -0000
Subject: Re: ski rack

>has anyone ever seen or had a delorean ski-rack sold by dealerships 

I believe that the ski rack works in conjunction with the facory luggage rack, 
both of which are avaialble from any DeLorean parts/service facility, including 
KAPAC, where I saw my first "ski rack adapter" when i was there in October.


James "Mikasa" Espey
Start '97 with a new DeLorean - or at least a poster of one! 
http://www.goodnet.com/~mikasa/poster.html 




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From: Calducati@aol.com
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 04:30:45 -0500 (EST) 
Subject: Emissions readings in general and oxygen sensors (DMC) 

Stan,

I'm a little confused with your readings of emissions. Normally, CO is read
as a percentage, i.e. 1.5% to 5.0%. For a car with fuel injection and a catalytic 
converter this reading should be between 0.1% and 1%. CO2 is read
also as a percentage. This reading should ideally be approximately 12% to 14%. 
Hydrocarbons are read as PPM(part per million) and should be belown 150ppm. Then 
there is O2(oxygen) which ideally should be below 1.5%. I am
in the process on getting a graph together to show the relationship of the 
emissions and how an adjustment of the CO reading(air/fuel mixture ratio) affects 
the other readings. Typically as the CO reading goes up the HC readings go up, 
the O2 reading goes down, and the CO2 reading goes down. If
I have interpretted your readings correctly, the engine was running to rich
initially. It is now reading better. A quick question, has the oxygen sensor 
been replaced? Oxygen sensors are critical to the proper operation of
a fuel injection system. This sensor is located in the exhaust pipes or manifolds 
fairly close to the exhaust manifold on one side. It measures the
amount of oxygen let over from the combustion process and converts this reading 
to a voltage signal that is sent to the computer for the fuel injection system. 
The reading is suppose to be between 0.1 volts and 0.9 volts and it should be 
moving above and below the .45 voltage reading quickly. The sensors typically 
need to be replaced every 60,000 to 90,000 miles based on normal wear and tear. 
The sensors can be damaged by some silicone rtv sealant used to adhere gaskets to 
metal or replace gaskets all
together. The sensors can also be damaged by the coolant going through the
exhaust system, i.e. a leaking head gasket or cracked cylinder head. Don't
try to measure the voltage reading without the proper equipment and training.
Often the sensors are damaged from people trying to reading the voltage incorrectly. 
Quick note about accumulators and fuel pumps. With a fuel pressure gauge connected 
up to the fuel system, the fuel pressure should remain abouve 25psi for at least 
10 minutes. If not then the accumulator could be bad, or there could be a bad fuel 
pressure regulator. 


David


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From: Nikki Schumann  Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:38:07 +0100 (GMT) 
Subject: Re:EURO PRV

>At 09:00 PM 2/1/97 +0000, you wrote:
>>I have come across a new engine that the owner claims is a euro prv. He says 
that Delorean was putting these in the last few DMCs and they have 25-35% more 
power than the original u.s. engines. Can any one give me info. on these engines? 
Will I have to do any modifcations to install in my '82?

>>Aaron Mills
>>DOA 4748
>>VIN 011554


>The U.S. spec engine was 130 hp. I've seen European road tests that claimed 
150 horse power. I'd guess the difference lies with fuel system and ignition 
timing changes that aren't encumbered with meeting the stringent U.S. emission 
requirements. I'd bet the internal parts of both engines are the same. You could
more than likely achieve the Euro specs with out swapping engines.

>Bruce Benson

I have read somewhere that just before DMC closed down, some DMC 12's were 
produced for the european market. By what I gathered these cars had something 
like 150-155 bhp and this was apparently due to the absence of the
catalic converter, not required in europe until early 90's. I wouldn't be 
surprized if this power can be achieved by simply 'popping off' the converter 
from a US spec 130 bhp car and doing all adjustments accordingly.

Nikki Schumann



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From: Advanced Book Exchange, abe@abebooks.com Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:00:23 -0500 (EST) 
Subject: ABE want matches

***

Your Want: Keywords: delorean
Has been matched with the following book(s): 

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View the book description and ordering information at 
http://www.abebooks.com/cgi/abe.exe/routera^_pr=oi^_ph=1^_bi=1144020 

Hard Driving, My Years with John DeLorea by Haddad, William Random House 1985.
1st ed., vg with dj.
Keywords: TRANSPORTATION ROAD DELOREAN GENERAL MOTORS 1STED The price of the book 
is US$ 8.00 Please reference the seller's book # 005198 when ordering.

The seller is Hammonds Antiques & Books at 1939 Cherokee Street, St. Louis, MO, 
USA, 63118
Email them at Hammonds@i1.net., phone them at 800 776 4732., fax them at 314 773 
6340.
Their conditions of sale are; Check, MC, Visa. Add $4.50 to purchase price for 
UPS shipping in the USA Shipping to Canada add $5.00 for 4th class postage, 
Europe add $6.00 for surface mail.

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View the book description and ordering information at 
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DeLorean by DeLorean, John Z.
Zondervan 1973.
very good contents, dust jacket is good, minor tears, edgewear. 1st edition.
Keywords: TRANSPORTATION ROAD DELOREAN 1STED The price of the book is US$ 9.50 
Please reference the seller's book # 025482 when ordering.

The seller is Hammonds Antiques & Books at 1939 Cherokee Street, St. Louis, MO, 
USA, 63118
Email them at Hammonds@i1.net., phone them at 800 776 4732., fax them at 314 773 
6340.
Their conditions of sale are; Check, MC, Visa. Add $4.50 to purchase price for 
UPS shipping in the USA Shipping to Canada add $5.00 for 4th class postage, Europe 
add $6.00 for surface mail.

This mail was created 02/01/1997 02:57:57 PM and postmarked 02/01/1997 04:38:51 PM


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From: STANDLOR@aol.com
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:10:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Emissions readings in 
general and oxygen sensors (DMC) 

DAVID-
I will give you what I got!
11/09/93
speed 0 to 60
grams/mile eq. of HC (stand-2.00 gpm score-2.87 gpm) grams/mile equivalent of 
CO (standard-30.0 gpm - Score- 15.3 gpm) grams/mile equiv. of CO2 (standard - 
N?A score- 453.6 gpm) grams/mile equiv. of NOx (standard- 3.0 gpm score- 5.1 
gmp) liters of purge (standard 1.0 liters Score -0.0 liters) test not performed

11/25/97
HC- 2.57	fail
CO- 66.7	fail
Oxides NOx- 1.2 pass

11/23/96
HC - 2.32
CO- 65.6
CO2- 428.7
NOx- 1.2

On the last reading set, I had set my CO mistakenly at 0.1 instead of 1.0 as
the factory setting is recommended. This setting was responsible for the 3rd
reading shown above. Of course it was off severely. I then had to have my
car licenced so I took a waiver. I then after realizing what I had done as
to the settings reset the CO to 1.0 with the meter. This of course, was shutting
 the door after the horse ran out. Yes I did change the oxigen sensor (lamda 
 control) in the exhaust. Would love to try again, but they charge 24.00 or more 
 each time you test! Stan


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