dmcnews-digest Wednesday, 5 February 1997 Volume 02 : Number 210 In this issue: Anybody hauling a DeLorean in Mo. last week? New DeLorean FAQ posted Re: PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT? Re: fascia refinishing Flowmaster Emissions (was Re: PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT?) Re: Transmission Troubles Re:EURO PRV [none] Re: Emissions (was Re: PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT?) Re: DMC Parts Online Re: DeLorean Survey DeLorean Parts 1983 DeLorean for sale Re: Parts Availability Clarified Cheap DeLorean Re: Compilation of VIN #s DeLorean Stereo Delorean Collectables Starting problems... Re: Starting problems... Re: DeLorean Parts Re:EURO PRV ski rack Re: Starting problems... Removing Paint, JZD Interview, Dutch Owners Re: ski rack Emissions readings in general and oxygen sensors (DMC) Re:EURO PRV ABE want matches Re: Emissions readings in general and oxygen sensors (DMC) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GullWinged@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 03:25:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: Anybody hauling a DeLorean in Mo. last week? Hey All: My younger brother was coming back from Tulsa, Oklahoma on Sunday night and said he saw a Ryder truck (or the like) hauling a DeLorean behind it on the highway near Springfield, Missouri. Just curious if it was anybody on this list, or if anyone knew who it was? ~ Chase "Imagination is a shortcut through the process of trial and error." Brenda Laurel - author of "Computers as Theater" ------------------------------ From: Knut S GrimsrudDate: Thu, 30 Jan 97 07:59:00 PST Subject: New DeLorean FAQ posted I have a new working DeLorean FAQ posted that now also features some interesting DMC documents. The FAQ can be found at: http://www.valzog.com/delorean/faq/faq/faq.htm I belive James also has the FAQ posted, but I was not able to follow the link to get to it, so try the above address instead if you are interested. This FAQ will continue to grow quite a bit over the next while as I get more DMC documents digitized and incorporated into the page. Thanks to Dave Takeuchi for getting the materials online. If you have questions or comments feel free to drop me a line. Knut Grimsrud DOA Chapter 41 ------------------------------ From: STANDLOR@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:52:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT? In a message dated 97-01-30 10:27:26 EST, Calducati@aol.com writes: << David ASE Master Auto Technician California License Smog Technician David- Glad to see you on the horn! Do you have any ideas on how I can get my car to pass emissions in Ariz.? I have done a complete 50,000 mile tune up, i.e. I have changed the plugs, wires, dist. cap, rotor, timed the car, installed new O rings (while doing all of the above), put in new fuel injectors, adjusted the CO to read 0.1 as in originial factory settings, and still flunk the new emissions test. If the CO and CO2 are good the particles are not, etc. Any ideas? Of course our new testing proceedures are about the same as Calif. except perhaps that it is done by a State Agency and under load. It is a drive test wheras the driver uses different speeds and follows a computer pattern as if he were driving up and down a mountain. Stan ------------------------------ From: "Marvin S. Sterling" Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 00:12:02 -0800 Subject: Re: fascia refinishing David Olson wrote: >I would like to hear what is the common wisdom and experience on repainting and refinishing >the front and rear fascia on the Delorean. I have seen the Delorean World Tech notes, >however I would like to hear how comfortable even of you would be having your standard >body shop do the work. I understand that the paint or the process has to be done in such a >way to insure that the can be plenty of flex so the paint doesn't peel in the future. Here in >central Wisconsin there is no one that regularly works on the car. Anybody out there with >some experience on this? >David Olson vin 11594 - ----------------------------------------- Dave, I had my front fascia repaired and repainted by a foreign custim specialty shop; however, most, if not all, new car front fascias are flexible material and any good paint shop should know how to do the job since they deal with the flex problem all of the time. Regards, Marv Sterling ------------------------------ From: jason74@juno.com (Jason T Brown) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 04:00:07 PST Subject: Flowmaster Is it even possible to put a flowmaster on a delorean without the taipipes coming out the back? Is anybody going on a road trip through the central part of NC? If they are would you mind coming to my house and showing me your delorean? If you want the address I can give it to you. Jason ------------------------------ From: Calducati@aol.com Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:09:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Emissions (was Re: PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT?) Stan, What are the HC and O2 readings comng out of the tailpipe? What emissions readings is the car failing on? What are the limits? Are they testing for NOx emissions? Are they running your car on a chassis dyno, where they are taking readings out the tailpipe while the rear wheels are driving a large drum? I'll help you in any way I can. Quick background: I manage a independent repair shop in Rohnert Park, CA north of San Fransico. I do not own a Delorean, but would like to. I am a ASE certfiied Master Automobile Technician, a license Smog Technician and Inspector, a ASE certified Parts Specialist, I am a once in a while radio talk show guest, etc, etc......But, let me assure you that I am no expert in the automotive industry. I do not believe that any one person can be an expert in an Industry as diverse and ever changing as the automotive industry. My first love is my wife and son, then comes motorcycling, and then automobiles like the Delorean. Sincerely, David (calducati@aol.com) ------------------------------ From: Mpeak@aol.com Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:24:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Transmission Troubles Scott, I have to second everything Mike Substelny has said about your problems. A lack of oil in your transmission case would most likely cause a more significant and sudden problem than the ones you mentioned, such as welding itself together, much like an oil-less engine crankcase. A suggestion would be to look at your clutch slave cylinder (If I remember correctly it's located above the transmission) and lift the seal up to see if that is where the leak is coming from. I know mine is faulty and needs to be replaced and it's just a matter of money before I do it. When I lifted up the seal, a significant amount of clutch fluid fell out, showing that the small leak had been pooling there for a while. - -Matt ------------------------------ From: AARON1@webtv.net (AARON MILLS) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 16:00:11 -0500 Subject: Re:EURO PRV I have come across a new engine that the owner claims is a euro prv. He says that Delorean was putting these in the last few DMCs and they have 25-35% more power than the original u.s. engines. Can any one give me info. on these engines? Will I have to do any modifcations to install in my '82? Aaron Mills DOA 4748 VIN 011554 ------------------------------ From: CDI USAMPS Date: 97-01-30 16:43:07 EST Subject: [none] Got a few questions: What ever happened to the Delorean CD rom that was supposed to come out? Anyone have any info on buying other than Yokohama tires for the Delo (Same tread front and rear). Any info on a supercharger that fits the Delo? Thanks. BILL ------------------------------ From: STANDLOR@aol.com Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:21:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Emissions (was Re: PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT?) David- Thanks for the reply. What I have done is take the one time exception in order to get my licence tags for the next two years! However, I still don't know what else to do to pass emissions! Without having set my CO with a metered machine, I had been turning the CO either leaner or richer, trying to hit the correct mark. What was happening was the HC was 2.87- the CO was 15.3- Gms/Mile of Equiv. CO2 was 453.6 Gpm- the NO grams/mile equiv. of NO was 5.1 Gpm. When I went back after failing test and the man told me that I was too rich, and I reset it to leaner, the results were HC= 2.32 CO= 65.6 Gpm CO2= 428.7 NO= 1.2 Of course the standards are as follows HC= 2.00 gpm CO= 30.0 gpm CO2= 428.7 gpm NO = 3.0 gpm. I have now used a meter to set my car at the factory setting of 0.1 on the CO, which of course gives me lousy milage, but it is at the facory setting for above. Help. Stan C ------------------------------ From: Nick Storr Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1970 11:00:00 +1100 Subject: Re: DMC Parts Online >>1). About 1-2 months ago, I placed an inquiry for an order to that DMC Parts >>Online place (not Kapac). I still have not heard anything from this place. >>What has been other peoples experiences? >I have also placed an inquiry with DMC Parts and have not recieved a reply. It's been a month or so...I went ahead submitted my inquiry with Kapac. Me too, about 1 - 2 months ago, and no reply. Does Kapac have a WWW site or do I need to use mail or the telephone? Nick Storr ------------------------------ From: GullWinged@aol.com Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 12:59:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: DeLorean Survey Jason: Just catching up on some old email and saw your "survey." My '81 DeLorean is now my only car and I do attempt to drive it every day, although my girlfriend and family will gladly testify that they have had to "haul" me around perhaps 10-20 times this past year because something was broken on the car and in the process of being repaired. I believe the car is dependable if purchased and brought up to specs before putting it on the road everyday. In my case, I was unable to do this and am slowly doing the restoration as time and money allows. Any more questions, just let me know. ~ Chase Clark ------------------------------ From: CDIUSAMPS@aol.com Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:44:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: DeLorean Parts I understand there is a car dealer in N.J. that still has an inventory of DMC parts, does anyone know the dealership name, location and possibly the phone number? Thanks BILL ------------------------------ From: Rene Richter, 100637.326@compuserve.com Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:31:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: 1983 DeLorean for sale ***GERMANY*** Built 1983 Automatic transmission Black leather interior 7500 miles Excellent shape TUEV and AU from Sebtember (Technical inspection and emission metering) All manuals availible Owner has to sell it because he is handicapped due to a ski accident 2 month ago. The car is in Blackforest. Please contact me: Rene Richter Richter@poboxes.com ------------------------------ From: GullWinged@aol.com Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 12:58:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Parts Availability Clarified >However, I do disagree with your statement that some parts are not available anymore. I have not been able to find one part that was needed for the repair of my car, that has not been available when ordered from our reliable and available Delorean Parts supplier. Not one! While this statement is true for this particular owner, that does not mean that EVERY one of the 2,700 odd parts are still available or whereabouts known. According to Jerry Rine at KAPAC there are about 100 parts that they no longer have available in original stock. A few of these parts are available as cross-reference, while others have been remanufactured on orders of DMC specialists like D1, DMC-Houston and PJ Grady. A few unobtainable parts such as the fuel-line couplings and angle drive are unavailable except as reconditioned parts. I know for a fact that KAPAC does not have a full set of any of the carpet patterns used in the DeLorean, nor do they have an ample supply of fiberglass sections, although they do have the original tubs so that it may be possible to create more some day if demand necessitates. ~ Chase "Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to read." --Groucho Marx ------------------------------ From: Nick Storr Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1970 11:00:00 +1100 Subject: Cheap DeLorean Hi All, This may sound like a strange request, but I am after a DeLorean in ANY condition whatsoever as long as the body is straight. Due to the import and RHD conversion issues discussed here previously, I've all but given up hope of properly owning one of these cars (at least until i win the lottery), but surely there's a car out there that is beyond "proper" restoration. I have thought about building a lookalike, and I am confident it would be within my expertise (I have built 2 cars from scratch before) but the main problem would be the SS panels. The closest material I have any experience working with is Aluminium, which would look ok, but not quite "right". So if there's a car out there that's beyond help and I can use as a basis for this project of mine, I'd love to hear about it. Thanks... Nick Storr PS: I know this probably sounds crazy to a lot of you, but put yourself in my shoes... A "real" DeLorean costs about $100,000 over here! ------------------------------ From: GullWinged@aol.com Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 12:58:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Compilation of VIN #s >Eric.J.Hennebury wrote a LONG TIME AGO... >Is anyone from KAPAC on line here? Perhaps they could provide solid information on VIN ranges, quantities, and intents. Wouldn't it be cool to comprise a VIN map from the first to the last with a corresponding build calendar and special mention given to unusual cars? Actually during my visit with Jerry Rine at KAPAC's warehouse a few months ago, he pulled out a list that showed all VIN #s produced and the key codes for each car. I also know that Rine is attempting to purchase the remaining "huge" inventory of original parts. Next time I visit with him I will inquire about obtaining a copy of the list and start an inventory of cars built, VIN #s skipped and current owners where applicable and discoverable. ~ Chase Clark (using a temporarily email address) "We don't need a rocket scientist to figure it out, but we have one!" - Dr.K. ------------------------------ From: Scott Tester Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 01:25:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: DeLorean Stereo I was wondering if it would be possable to install a two unit stereo intoa Delorean without doing any defacing of the interior? The two unit I would consider has a CD Player on top and a Digital Graphic Equalizer on the bottom. Thanks! Scott Tester testersd@appstate.campus.mci.net (Future DeLorean Owner) ------------------------------ From: WINGD2@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 01:41:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Delorean Collectables I found a company in Seattle that has a neat little Delorean collectable. It's 1/92 scale ( about 2" long ) and is cast from a resin and aluminum powder mix. It looks just like pewter and has a felt bottom base. There are no moving parts but it does have super detail. It's made in England and sells for $11.00 ea. The company is "Morris Manor Collectables" and their phone/fax is 206-891-2775. Ask for Lori. They also have about 100 other British cars that are a part of this series. Just ask her for your favorites. Marty Maier ------------------------------ From: Jason Winter Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 18:26:13 -0600 Subject: Starting problems... I am having some trouble with the Delorean starting when it cools off.. It is hard to explain the problem, but I will try: 1. The car starts fine after it sets for a long time(day). 2. The trouble comes when the car has been running for a little while and you kill it. It will start right back, but after a few minutes it will just spin over. We checked the fuel pump and it is pumping-ie the pump is on and the line pressures up(I was told it could be the check valve on the pump). 3. If I put jumpercables on the car, it usuallly starts in the situation above. 4. The relays have been upgraded to the Bosche ones. 5. Finally, If you keep turning the key on and off it will begain to try to start. We are leaning on the side of the problem being electrical(ie coil, dist). If anyone can be of help on this problem I would appreciate it. It sucks when the car starts fine in the garage, but after you come out of a store of fill up with gas it wont start... I hope I have explained the problem well enough for some advice.. Jason Winter Winter@onramp.net Vin 5203 ('81) ------------------------------ From: ausmith@pdx.oneworld.com Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:30:08 +0000 Subject: Re: Starting problems... Jason, It sounds to me like it probably is the check valve. This is not part of the fuel pump. It's function is to keep the pressure up in the fuel system at the engine. If the pressure drops while the engine is at normal operating temp. the fuel boils creating a vapor lock. Pressure raises the temp. at which the fuel will boil. The other possibilities, from personal experience, are loose plugs at the "computer" boxes behind the drivers seat. There is the same cover as behind the passenger seat. Remove it and check all the plugs. Going back, on the DeLorean the check valve appears to be called a "fuel accumulator". In the book at 2/1/0 its #39. Chris ------------------------------ From: Kevin MacDougall Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 14:46:40 -0500 Subject: Re: DeLorean Parts Not in NJ but Partka Chevrolet in Hamden CT. has a good stock of parts... At 11:44 PM 2/1/97 -0500, you wrote: >I understand there is a car dealer in N.J. that still has an inventory of DMC parts, does anyone know the dealership name, location and possibly the phone number? Thanks BILL ------------------------------ From: BRUCE BENSON Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:30:09 +0000 Subject: Re:EURO PRV At 09:00 PM 2/1/97 +0000, you wrote: >I have come across a new engine that the owner claims is a euro prv. He says that Delorean was putting these in the last few DMCs and they have 25-35% more power than the original u.s. engines. Can any one give me info. on these engines? Will I have to do any modifcations to install in my '82? >Aaron Mills >DOA 4748 >VIN 011554 The U.S. spec engine was 130 hp. I've seen European road tests that claimed 150 horse power. I'd guess the difference lies with fuel system and ignition timing changes that aren't encumbered with meeting the stringent U.S. emission requirements. I'd bet the internal parts of both engines are the same. You could more than likely achieve the Euro specs with out swapping engines. Bruce Benson ------------------------------ From: Kevin MacDougall Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 20:11:23 -0500 Subject: ski rack has anyone ever seen or had a delorean ski-rack sold by dealerships ------------------------------ From: BRUCE BENSON Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:14:24 +0000 Subject: Re: Starting problems... At 07:30 AM 2/3/97 +0000, you wrote: >Jason, >Going back, on the DeLorean the check valve appears to be called a "fuel accumulator". In the book at 2/1/0 its #39. >Chris The check valve is at the fuel pump. Early cars had the valve built into the pump while later cars and replacement pumps have the valve mounted externally. The check valve is just a one way valve to keep the fuel from returning to the pump when the system is pressurized. The accumulator is located in the fuel line about midway between the pump and the engine. It has a spring loaded diaphragm inside which is compressed when the pump is running and when the pump is off the spring pushes against the diaphragm thus keeping enough pressure in the fuel system to open the injectors when the engine is started. The fuel pump only runs a few seconds during cranking unless the engine starts. This is to prevent flooding. If lack of fuel pressure is the problem, cranking beyond the first 5 or 6 seconds is not doing anything. Instead, crank for about 5 seconds, turn off the key, then crank for another 5 seconds. Eventually enough fuel pressure should build to get the engine started. If the car doesn't start hot the problem probably lies with fuel pump check valve. The accumulator could also be the culprit but I understand the check valve is the more common cause. Starting problems when cold are most likely caused by a bad thermo time switch which fires the cold start valve to enrich the dose of fuel for cold starts. Bruce Benson ------------------------------ From: michael richard pack Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:42:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Removing Paint, JZD Interview, Dutch Owners We have a car that was painted by Ferrari of Washington D.C. It is brand new, and has less than 10,000 miles on the clock. It needs all of the regular TLC & hose replacement etc, etc. We would like to restore the skin to stainless, and we have considered the removal of each panel, dipped in paint remover and then rebrushed. Is this something anyone out there has done before? Is it possible? John DeLorean when I last talked with him, is selling an interview that will be sold through the DeLorean World. The tape is in the last stages of editing, and covers everything. I would like to get in touch with Frank Lommen & Wendy Peeters of Venray Netherlands. If you do subscribe to the list, please write to my address. If there are other Dutch list members please do the same. I would like to get a copy of the "Blip op de weg" Dutch TV program. The interview was 06/17/94. Broadcast date ?/?/95. Ref. Delorean World Vol.12 Number 1.'95 page 12 "Dutch DeLorean on TV." ------------------------------ From: James Espey Date: Mon, 3 Feb 97 19:25:33 -0000 Subject: Re: ski rack >has anyone ever seen or had a delorean ski-rack sold by dealerships I believe that the ski rack works in conjunction with the facory luggage rack, both of which are avaialble from any DeLorean parts/service facility, including KAPAC, where I saw my first "ski rack adapter" when i was there in October. James "Mikasa" Espey Start '97 with a new DeLorean - or at least a poster of one! http://www.goodnet.com/~mikasa/poster.html ------------------------------ From: Calducati@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 04:30:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: Emissions readings in general and oxygen sensors (DMC) Stan, I'm a little confused with your readings of emissions. Normally, CO is read as a percentage, i.e. 1.5% to 5.0%. For a car with fuel injection and a catalytic converter this reading should be between 0.1% and 1%. CO2 is read also as a percentage. This reading should ideally be approximately 12% to 14%. Hydrocarbons are read as PPM(part per million) and should be belown 150ppm. Then there is O2(oxygen) which ideally should be below 1.5%. I am in the process on getting a graph together to show the relationship of the emissions and how an adjustment of the CO reading(air/fuel mixture ratio) affects the other readings. Typically as the CO reading goes up the HC readings go up, the O2 reading goes down, and the CO2 reading goes down. If I have interpretted your readings correctly, the engine was running to rich initially. It is now reading better. A quick question, has the oxygen sensor been replaced? Oxygen sensors are critical to the proper operation of a fuel injection system. This sensor is located in the exhaust pipes or manifolds fairly close to the exhaust manifold on one side. It measures the amount of oxygen let over from the combustion process and converts this reading to a voltage signal that is sent to the computer for the fuel injection system. The reading is suppose to be between 0.1 volts and 0.9 volts and it should be moving above and below the .45 voltage reading quickly. The sensors typically need to be replaced every 60,000 to 90,000 miles based on normal wear and tear. The sensors can be damaged by some silicone rtv sealant used to adhere gaskets to metal or replace gaskets all together. The sensors can also be damaged by the coolant going through the exhaust system, i.e. a leaking head gasket or cracked cylinder head. Don't try to measure the voltage reading without the proper equipment and training. Often the sensors are damaged from people trying to reading the voltage incorrectly. Quick note about accumulators and fuel pumps. With a fuel pressure gauge connected up to the fuel system, the fuel pressure should remain abouve 25psi for at least 10 minutes. If not then the accumulator could be bad, or there could be a bad fuel pressure regulator. David ------------------------------ From: Nikki Schumann Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:38:07 +0100 (GMT) Subject: Re:EURO PRV >At 09:00 PM 2/1/97 +0000, you wrote: >>I have come across a new engine that the owner claims is a euro prv. He says that Delorean was putting these in the last few DMCs and they have 25-35% more power than the original u.s. engines. Can any one give me info. on these engines? Will I have to do any modifcations to install in my '82? >>Aaron Mills >>DOA 4748 >>VIN 011554 >The U.S. spec engine was 130 hp. I've seen European road tests that claimed 150 horse power. I'd guess the difference lies with fuel system and ignition timing changes that aren't encumbered with meeting the stringent U.S. emission requirements. I'd bet the internal parts of both engines are the same. You could more than likely achieve the Euro specs with out swapping engines. >Bruce Benson I have read somewhere that just before DMC closed down, some DMC 12's were produced for the european market. By what I gathered these cars had something like 150-155 bhp and this was apparently due to the absence of the catalic converter, not required in europe until early 90's. I wouldn't be surprized if this power can be achieved by simply 'popping off' the converter from a US spec 130 bhp car and doing all adjustments accordingly. Nikki Schumann ------------------------------ From: Advanced Book Exchange, abe@abebooks.com Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:00:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: ABE want matches *** Your Want: Keywords: delorean Has been matched with the following book(s): - -------- View the book description and ordering information at http://www.abebooks.com/cgi/abe.exe/routera^_pr=oi^_ph=1^_bi=1144020 Hard Driving, My Years with John DeLorea by Haddad, William Random House 1985. 1st ed., vg with dj. Keywords: TRANSPORTATION ROAD DELOREAN GENERAL MOTORS 1STED The price of the book is US$ 8.00 Please reference the seller's book # 005198 when ordering. The seller is Hammonds Antiques & Books at 1939 Cherokee Street, St. Louis, MO, USA, 63118 Email them at Hammonds@i1.net., phone them at 800 776 4732., fax them at 314 773 6340. Their conditions of sale are; Check, MC, Visa. Add $4.50 to purchase price for UPS shipping in the USA Shipping to Canada add $5.00 for 4th class postage, Europe add $6.00 for surface mail. - -------- View the book description and ordering information at http://www.abebooks.com/cgi/abe.exe/routera^_pr=oi^_ph=1^_bi=1157510 DeLorean by DeLorean, John Z. Zondervan 1973. very good contents, dust jacket is good, minor tears, edgewear. 1st edition. Keywords: TRANSPORTATION ROAD DELOREAN 1STED The price of the book is US$ 9.50 Please reference the seller's book # 025482 when ordering. The seller is Hammonds Antiques & Books at 1939 Cherokee Street, St. Louis, MO, USA, 63118 Email them at Hammonds@i1.net., phone them at 800 776 4732., fax them at 314 773 6340. Their conditions of sale are; Check, MC, Visa. Add $4.50 to purchase price for UPS shipping in the USA Shipping to Canada add $5.00 for 4th class postage, Europe add $6.00 for surface mail. This mail was created 02/01/1997 02:57:57 PM and postmarked 02/01/1997 04:38:51 PM ------------------------------ From: STANDLOR@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:10:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Emissions readings in general and oxygen sensors (DMC) DAVID- I will give you what I got! 11/09/93 speed 0 to 60 grams/mile eq. of HC (stand-2.00 gpm score-2.87 gpm) grams/mile equivalent of CO (standard-30.0 gpm - Score- 15.3 gpm) grams/mile equiv. of CO2 (standard - N?A score- 453.6 gpm) grams/mile equiv. of NOx (standard- 3.0 gpm score- 5.1 gmp) liters of purge (standard 1.0 liters Score -0.0 liters) test not performed 11/25/97 HC- 2.57 fail CO- 66.7 fail Oxides NOx- 1.2 pass 11/23/96 HC - 2.32 CO- 65.6 CO2- 428.7 NOx- 1.2 On the last reading set, I had set my CO mistakenly at 0.1 instead of 1.0 as the factory setting is recommended. This setting was responsible for the 3rd reading shown above. Of course it was off severely. I then had to have my car licenced so I took a waiver. I then after realizing what I had done as to the settings reset the CO to 1.0 with the meter. This of course, was shutting the door after the horse ran out. Yes I did change the oxigen sensor (lamda control) in the exhaust. Would love to try again, but they charge 24.00 or more each time you test! Stan ------------------------------ End of dmcnews-digest V2 #210 *****************************
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