DeLorean Mailing List - 2/21/97


dmcnews-digest	Friday, 21 February 1997	Volume 02 : Number 214

In this issue:
ADMIN NOTE: Inaccurate subjects
Fires
Re: Too tall?
Re: Cracked Dash/Dash Removal
Re: Cracked dash fix???
FW: 97 Euro-Fest
Re: Cracked Dash/Dash Removal
Re: DeLorean Dealerships
Re: Cracked dash fix???
Kapac/ P.J. Grady
Re: Too tall?
Battery Charger & Alarm? / Email Address
TURBO CHARGERS
replacing ignition wires ...
Third Brakelight -vs- Concours Judging
Re: Alleged Kit Car
Re: DeLorean Dealerships
Chapter 41 and the DMC FAQ
Re: Too tall?
Re: TURBO CHARGERS
Re: Third Brakelight -vs- Concours Judging
Re: Third Brakelight -vs- Concours Judging
DMC Originality
Re: DMC Originality
Re: Kapac catalog
Re: concourse originality
Re: DMC Originality
Re: DeLorean Dealerships
Re: Cracked dash fix???
Compatible Muffler

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From: James Espey 
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 97 06:48:26 -0000
Subject: ADMIN NOTE: Inaccurate subjects 

Okay, I posted a note about inaccurate subject lines last week, and up til now I 
have been either fixing them on my own or returning them to the sender for 
correction and re-posting.

Everyone PLEASE pay attention to your subject lines. The DeLorean Mailing List 
now has over 400 subscribers and it MUST be moderated to keep the "signal-to-noise" 
ratio acceptable. All messages with inaccurate subjects will be returned and you 
will have to correct it and re-post it to the list. It's nothing personal against 
anyone, it's simply a matter of the moderator (me) effectively using my time vesus 
the contributor (you) effectively using your mind/typing fingers. 

Thank you.

James "Mikasa" Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com Coming in '97 - http://www.dmcnews.com/


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From: magriese@VNET.IBM.COM
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 97 08:17:23 CST
Subject: Fires

One potential source of a fire in a DeLorean is the fuel injection lines. My 
wife and I were driving down a gravel road in central Minnesota a couple of 
summers ago when I noticed some orange flickering in the rear view mirror. 
Hitting the brakes (hard!) without the clutch killed the engine (and the fuel 
pump!). You never saw a pair of gullwing doors go up so fast in your life. 
Fortunately, we had some pop cans in the car that were sufficient to put out 
the fire. Diet Dr. Pepper (shaken, not stirred) is a pretty effective fire 
retardent. The fire must have just started, as the only damage was a little 
soot on the engine cover and some melted insulation on the cold start injector 
harness. The cause turned out to be a small leak around the banjo clips that 
secure the fuel injection lines from the fuel distributor to the injector. As 
a precaution, we removed all of the injection lines and inspected them for 
cracks - we found 2 that needed to be replaced (replacements are available 
from Volvo). Now all of our cars have fire extinguishers in prominent places, 
even the new ones.

Mike Griese
magriese@vnet.ibm.com



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From: Mike Substelny  Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:00:07 -0500
Subject: Re: Too tall?

Dan asked:

>I have heard that DeLorean's can fit a 6'5" man. I am 6'4",with this in mind 
can I fit enough to move about in the car? Thanks!

Amazingly enough, a DeLorean also has enough room for a 6'5 woman! (Theoretically 
speaking, I've never seen this tested).

You should have no trouble fitting in a DeLorean, Dan. Actually you will find in 
much easier to get into/out of a DeLorean than a typical sports car because of 
the gullwing doors. I'm 6'1 and I sometimes bump my head on the door frame of 
my SO's Porsche, but never my DeLorean. So I would say the DeLorean is the best 
sports car ever made for a tall person.

- - Mike Substelny


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From: James Espey 
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 97 07:51:43 -0000
Subject: Re: Cracked Dash/Dash Removal

While in Los Angeles recently, I drove by a place in Van Nuys called "Just 
Dashes" at 5941 Lemona Avenue, (Zip code 91411), phone 800-247-3274. They were 
very nice and spent some time showing me their operation and gave me some 
information on their services. I also have a small crack in my speaker grille, 
and they seemed confident they could fix it with a thermo-vacuum covering that 
would then be dyed to match. 

There is another place that I read about in Hemmings up in Medford, Oregon (in 
your neck of the woods, Knut?) called Dash Specialists at 1910 Redbud Lane 
(541-776-0040). Ihave no other informtaion about this comapny.

The problem is that the dash must be removed from the car...and I understand 
that to be no small undertaking. I am under the impression that dash removal.
installation requires removal of the windshield, which in and of itself is no 
small undertaking. Does anyone have experience in the area of dash removal?

James



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From: "John W. Herron"  Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:57:37 -0700
Subject: Re: Cracked dash fix???

Gentlemen:

CRACKED DASHES

As for the cracked dash in the speaker grille areas, I did some research...Just 
Dashes, Inc., Van Nuys, will repair the dash for around $480. Thermo-vacuum the 
whole thing. KAPAC, sells a brand new dash for around $320. Either way, you will 
have to remove the dash. 

I dont know how many dashes are left at KAPAC, however, at that price, it is very 
reasonable. Most likely buy one from them...until I am ready for that concourse 
resto.

FOR TIME BEING...

I looked at some speaker grilles to cover the cracked area for the time being. 
They are very hard to find...most 3.5 inch speakers dont come with grilles. The 
width measurement of the RH speaker area (on top, dash) is 4 inches...from edge 
of glove box to pillar. 

Looked at 4 inch speaker grilles...they far exceed the area width available...
speaker size is 4 inches...matching grilles will be about 4.5 inches. There is 
no room...at least on the RH side. 

I found some 3.5 inch grilles though...in Crutchfield. They are on the Kenwood's 
KSC-7702 and KSC-9903 truck speaker boxes. Those grilles are black mesh and 
pretty nice looking. It is likely that the grilles can be ordered from a Kenwood 
dealer. I will look into to this further. 

I can be emailed at: herron@usc.edu

Regards,

John
VIN#4115
DOA So. Cal


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From: "Scott Mueller"  Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 01:02:50 UT
Subject: FW: 97 Euro-Fest

I am planning on attending the Euro-Fest in Belfast. I purchased my RT airfare 
yesterday from CPTT in San Francisco. 1.800.282.2188

RT airfare from SF to BFS (Belfast) flying British Airways is $784 including
all taxes

This was the best fare I was able to find, Flying 5/21/97 & 5/25/97. 

Aer Lingus (Irelands National Airline) is already booked for that week, and
the discount seats are filling rapidly.

Unfortunately, I do not have extra time to stretch this trip out. 

Get your passport in order, that is the first question I was asked when I booked 
my flight.

Looking forward to meeting my fellow owners in May. 


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From: DMC12JR@aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 20:39:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Cracked Dash/Dash Removal

You don't have to remove the windshield to remove the dash pad but there is a
stud in the pad that is easy to catch on the console so you might want to remove 
it just to make sure you don't have any problems.!!!!! 

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From: "Marvin S. Sterling"  Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 
21:05:25 -0800
Subject: Re: DeLorean Dealerships

STANDLOR@aol.com wrote:

>In a message dated 97-02-18 10:34:12 EST, you write: 

><< Does anyone know why the DeLorean's at such centers as DeLorean One are 
ssso expensive? >>

SNIP - SNIP

>... Usually, the owner sells it because he has abused it, and is tired of 
putting money into the car to bring it back to where it should have
>been in the first place.

- --------------------------------------- Stan
I take issue with your statement . . . mine ( vin 16000 '83 ) is virtually 
new, has been regularly maintained ( full records available ) and is for 
sale . . . for $25,000 - no haggling, no discussions! In fact one admirer 
just today was commenting on how he would love having a D and all I said 
was 25K and it's yours . . . he is going to get back to me. The point that 
I am attempting to make is that if you can't maintain a D, or similar 
collectible, then perhaps the person simply should not own one. They used 
to say about Tiffany's, in NYC, if you have to ask the price then you can't 
afford it. I'm really a little tired of, as some member of this list did, 
reading about owners trying to prove that the D is not worth what people think 
that it is. Beauty, and value, are in the eye of the beholder. 'nuff said.
Marv Sterling

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From: DMC12JR@aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 20:41:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Cracked dash fix???

I don't know where these prices came from but Kapac sells black dashes for 
$343.75 and grey dashes for $612.33. That is a big diff from the $320 that
was posted. As far as the quality of them they are not the best.(mint) If
you have any questions as to where to get one let me know! 

DMC12JR
parts locator
tech on-line


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From: mack777@ix.netcom.com (James McBurney) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 22:09:26 
-0600 (CST) Subject: Kapac/ P.J. Grady

Does anyone know if KAPAC offers any type of catalog. I am interested in the 
going prices for parts. Also I will be going to P.J. Grady by the end of the 
week. If anyone wants a questioned answered, let me know. I will be looking 
into the condition of the refurbished DeLorean's. Hopefully they will have a 
few for sale. Thanks! 

-Dan


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From: mack777@ix.netcom.com (James McBurney) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:59:47 
-0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Too tall?

You wrote:

>Dan asked:

>>I have heard that DeLorean's can fit a 6'5" man. I am 6'4",with this in 
mind can I fit enough to move about in the car? Thanks!

>Amazingly enough, a DeLorean also has enough room for a 6'5 woman! 
(Theoretically speaking, I've never seen this tested).


Please excuse my statement on "Can a DeLorean fit a 6'5" MAN. Kindly respect 
this as a 6'5" person. Also I would like to thank all of the people, man and 
woman who have provided information on the car for me. Hopefully I will be 
able to purchase a DeLorean, as I am entering medical school shortly and it 
is a mater of a BIGGER bank loan. Thanks again for your continuing information.
-Dan


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From: GullWinged@aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 23:08:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Battery Charger & Alarm? 
/ Email Address 

I finally have the alarm in my DeLorean functioning properly, although I had to 
wire the constant positive and negative leads from the siren/control unit 
directly to the battery posts. In the process I have discovered that I likely 
have the negative battery cable corroding where it contacts the frame as I lost 
all power to the car while moving the battery in and out to wire everythign up. 
I'll check and attend to that problem later though.

For now, I am curious about a somewhat related subject. I am thinking of trying 
to take some stress off my alternator this summer by purchasing a solar-powered 
battery charger to keep in the car and plug in every so often. My only questions 
are 1) will this be much help or just look silly and add to the car's mystique 
even further AND 2) will such a system be incompatible with a car alarm?

Also, some people may have noticed my absence from the list for a while. During 
the holiday season I moved from Jefferson City, Missouri to Columbia, which is 
30 miles north. I am just now getting settled in and returning to the 'Net on 
a regular basis. I cancelled my account with my local ISP and am now using 
GullWinged@aol.com as my email address instead of stormrider@socketis.net. 
This is only a temporary solution until I find a national ISP that is very 
friendly to Macintosh users and has a local access number for Columbia. I'll 
post another email address when I get one, until then just use the AOL address 
stated above. 

Thanks everyone!

~ Chase

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From: "Scott Mueller"  Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 01:03:02 UT
Subject: TURBO CHARGERS

I to am looking for info so I can Turbo-charge my Delorean. 

Recently on TNN, I say the end of a segment for an electric motor powered turbo 
charger. It looked like it would be much easier to install rather than
the exhaust driven unit. It was a very clean installation. 

Has anyone seen or heard of such a device? Does anyone know the manufacture?



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From: Matt 
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 06:31:27 +0100
Subject: replacing ignition wires ...

Pulling one of the ignition cables it broke apart in my hands. Fifteen years 
were obviously too much. Are there replacement parts from another car that fit 
the D'?

Could you give me the brand and year, please? 


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From: "Scott Mueller"  Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 01:02:34 UT
Subject: Third Brakelight -vs- Concours Judging 

The idea of a third brake light seems to be great. I am concerned about what
affect this fantastic safety item might have during Concourse Judging. It
would be a shame if you lost points for such an obvious safety improvement.

How could we get the rules changed so a deduct would not be taken? 

I think that if it is a good clean unobtrusive installation, it should just be
considered part of the Brake light system. 

My 1981 still needs the safety recalls performed, it is in as bought from the
dealer condition with 13,000 miles. I would like to drive it more but am very
concerned about visibility, but do not want to make any modifications from
original that would affect its score when I am able to enter it in the annual
Concourse Competition.

Anyone else have any thoughts or wisdom on this subject?
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From: GullWinged@aol.com
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 23:57:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Alleged Kit Car

>First, the number of people who think there is a Ford engine in the car is 
truly astounding.

I also concur with that statement. Anytime someone asks about the car the topic 
invariably leads to the choice of powerplant. The person is always surprised to 
learn that it is the European PRV, aka Volvo V6. More than half the time people
 claim they thought it had a Ford V8, but I always correct them and pop the 
 engine lid to prove otherwise. 

~ Chase

"You always have new chances and new possibilities 
each and every day when you are a Mac user." 




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From: STANDLOR@aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 01:18:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: DeLorean Dealerships

In a message dated 97-02-19 23:27:13 EST, you write: 

<< he point that I am attempting to make is that if you can't maintain 
a D, or similar collectible, then perhaps the person simply should not own one. >>
Marv-
You and I don't really think that much apart. My car would not be sold for a
penney under $25,000.00, but the difference is that you and I maintain our 
vehicles. Unfortunately, many of our fellow owners, either through neglect,
unable to afford to do it properly, or whatever, DO NOT, maintain their cars.
Not only do they not maintain them, but they insist on putting on inferior,
foreign,and strange adaptions, for parts that for the most part, are readily
available. I havd observed quite a few cars (DMC's) at dealers lots, and have 
examined the condition of the cars that are selling in the area of $20,000.00. 
They are in shamefull condition ! Wires holding parts together, parts missing, 
dirty, filty, torn leather, etc.
They had what they deserved, junk, that was sold to a dealer. Stan


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From: Knut S Grimsrud  Date: Fri, 14 Feb 97 
15:18:00 PST
Subject: Chapter 41 and the DMC FAQ

It has come to my attention that the DeLorean FAQ could be construed as an 
official publication of the DeLorean Owners Association. The FAQ is a 
publication of Regional Chapter 41 and is not a sanctioned publication of 
the DeLorean Owners Association nor does it speak for the association. 
Although clearly stated in the "About" section of the FAQ, my use of the 
complete chapter designation, including the DOA prefix, may have caused some 
confusion.

I apologize for any confusion or misunderstanding caused by the materials 
and will clarify this in a subsequent release of the FAQ. I also wish to 
thank Dave Takeuchi and James Espey for generously providing server space, 
resources, and expertise to allow the FAQ to reach such a wide audience.


Knut Grimsrud
Coordinator
DOA Regional Chapter 41



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From: Jameel Ahed 
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 07:26:31 -0600
Subject: Re: Too tall?

John Delorean Himself was very tall... That is the story behind the gulwing 
doors... He was sick and tired of having no room to get out of the car when 
some "idiot" parked a car way to close to the Delorean... It only needs less 
than a foot to open the doors and you can't bang your head on the roof of the 
car because that is actually part of the door... and when that door is open 
there is a ton of space for ya! The car was built around a very tall JOHN Z 
DELOREAN! Jameel Ahed
If this is incorrect please let me know... 

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From: raddad@cmn.net
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 06:38:57 -0700
Subject: Re: TURBO CHARGERS

>I to am looking for info so I can Turbo-charge my Delorean. 

>Recently on TNN, I say the end of a segment for an electric motor powered 
turbo charger. It looked like it would be much easier to install rather than
>the exhaust driven unit. It was a very clean installation. 

>Has anyone seen or heard of such a device? Does anyone know the manufacture?

Scott

News to me. There is an electric motor that comes as an adjunct to a regular 
turbo charger. It's pupose is to keep rpms up in the turbo so that
there is no turbo lag at lower speeds and or at gear shift changes. It is 
offered as an aftermarket device, custom for you particular car, and is also 
standard equipment on the Vector.

Again, I don't know manufacturer. If you are really into turbos, get TURBO
magazine. Loads of information.

Dick Ryan




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From: raddad@cmn.net
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 06:40:15 -0700
Subject: Re: Third Brakelight -vs- Concours Judging 

Scott

Concours and modifications are like oil and water - they don't mix! 

Dick Ryan




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From: James Espey 
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 06:57:54 -0000
Subject: Re: Third Brakelight -vs- Concours Judging 

>The idea of a third brake light seems to be great. I am concerned about what 
affect this fantastic safety item might have during Concourse Judging. It would 
be a shame if you lost points for such an obvious safety improvement.

>How could we get the rules changed so a deduct would not be taken? 

>I think that if it is a good clean unobtrusive installation, it should just 
be considered part of the Brake light system. 

The very definition of concours is "originality". The addition of a third brake 
light violates the integrity of an "original" car, no matter how "clean" or 
"unobtrusive" it looks.

I'm not going to argue the safety merits, I'm in agreement with you there, but 
as far as concours goes, it's ridiculous to think the rules on how to judge an 
"original" car will be changed in this regard. If memory serves, the max 
enterior *modification* deduction is 5 points, and I can't
imagine how a third brake light would subject you to more than a 1 or 2 point 
deduction. Check the concours rules at the DOA web page for more details.

Some time ago at a DOA board meeting when the concours rules were being 
updated, the subject arose regarding the plastic overflow bottles - which 
are generally considered to be unreliable - and whether or not points should 
be deducted for having replaced this **even if you had the original bottle 
with the car - just not installed**. It was decided that this was not
acceptable.

James


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From: CDIUSAMPS@aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:04:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: DMC Originality

One has to wonder who benefits from keeping a Delorean totally original. 
Sure the owner to a certain extent. But I am starting to wonder if all the
originality rules are not a way of keeping certain parts suppliers able to 
sell their wares at sometimes outrageous prices, while at the same time selling 
aftermarket items which do not conform to the "rules" of competition.
Another question is the close or overlapping relationship of certain parts
suppliers and the DOA. Just a thought, don't get hostile. 

BILL


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From: "Michael E. Gaines"  Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 
10:29:13 -0500
Subject: Re: DMC Originality

Bill and all,
I, too, don't understand how the Concours rules cannot accept safety features. 
Hell, I got into two accidents and am thinking about getting a third Corvette 
light. Now, in the interest of safety, why should this be a deduction? Maybe 
that's a weak argument, but how about the safer aluminum coolant bottle?
This is why I'll never enter into a Concours. I love my car, but I'm not 
sacrificing getting a CD player or a third brakelight or a safer coolant 
bottle just to be a forgotten name in an annual issue of DeLorean World. 
Sorry if I seem cynical. 

Mike

CDIUSAMPS@aol.com wrote:

>One has to wonder who benefits from keeping a Delorean totally original. 
SSure the owner to a certain extent. But I am starting to wonder if all the
>originality rules are not a way of keeping certain parts suppliers able to 
sell their wares at sometimes outrageous prices, while at the same time 
selling aftermarket items which do not conform to the "rules" of competition.
>Another question is the close or overlapping relationship of certain parts
>suppliers and the DOA. Just a thought, don't get hostile. 

>BILL


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From: Mike Substelny  Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 16:13:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Kapac catalog

Dan asked:

>Does anyone know if KAPAC offers any type of catalog. I am interested in the 
going prices for parts. 

I don't think so. I believe they planned to use their web page as a catalog 
( www.deloreanparts.com) but there has been no advancement on that page in a 
 long, long time. 

Kapac essentially uses the DeLorean factory parts manual as a sort of catalog. 
You call and give them a part number from the manual and they quote you a price. 

- -Mike Substelny


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From: Mike Substelny  Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 16:12:00
 -0500
Subject: Re: concourse originality

BILL said:

>But I am starting to wonder if all the originality rules are 
nnot a way of keeping certain parts suppliers able to sell their wares . . .

Welcome to the world of classic cars, BILL. The DOA did not invent 
"originality" concourse competitions, so don't blame the DOA, parts suppliers, 
or Concourse sponsors. I have seen marques from Rolls-Royce to Chevy compete 
on originality. My SO's father occasionally judges originality in Mercedes 
competitions.

Frankly we're lucky the DOA has a concourse competition. If they didn't, 
where would DeLorean owners go when we wanted a little appreciation for the 
pristine condition of our car?

- -Mike Substelny


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From: Brian Henderlong  Date: 20 Feb 97 14:46:21 +0100
Subject: Re: DMC Originality

>I love my car, but I'm not sacrificing getting a CD player or a third brakelight 
or a safer coolant bottle... 

I have to agree with you -- I'd rather not sacrifice comfort, reliability, or 
safety for the sake of originality. In saving for my future DeLorean, I have 
always budgeted extra for a turbo installation, an alarm, and a nice high-powered 
stereo. Now I'm planning to add a third brakelight (maybe one like the Acura NSX 
has -- a strip of LEDs the length of the car) and some other items like the 
coolant bottle, the Centerforce clutch, the factory luggage rack, etc. 

On the other hand, even though I want to customize MY DeLorean, I'm glad there 
are owners out there who want to keep things as original as possible. The 
concours is for those people -- who are helping to preserve the history of 
the marque. Imagine a time in the future when there may only be four or five 
pristine examples of the DeLorean as it came from the factory! What a crime 
that would be! 

I don't want to see people bicker over "show dogs" and "mongrels" -- there 
will always be purists, and there will always be customizers. If both groups 
have an equal reverence for the car, then there will always be DeLoreans on 
the streets. That way the DeLorean will stay in the public mind, and that 
will benefit EVERYBODY -- owner and enthusiast alike.

- ------------------------
Brian Henderlong
bhenderlong@wusf.usf.edu

p.s. -- sorry for the diatribe! My first post to the list over a year ago 
was on this very topic, and it started a big, vehement thread!



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From: "Michael E. Gaines"  Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 
15:49:04 -0500
Subject: Re: DeLorean Dealerships

STANDLOR@aol.com wrote:

>In a message dated 97-02-19 23:27:13 EST, you write: 

><< he point that I am attempting to make is that if you can't maintain 
aa D, or similar collectible, then perhaps the person simply should not 
own one. >>

I've been thinking about this comment all day at work. My opinion is that 
this is a rather rude comment. Sorry, but what if someone just CAN'T keep 
it up? My car's in great shape, but should I feel like I have to 'prove' 
how I keep my car in good shape just so that I can be seen as a 'good 
owner'? I have a friend in Washington State who has one and really spent 
every last dime he could just to get it. Should he be looked down on because 
he doesn't have the financial capability to keep it in good shape? On the 
flip side, what does it matter if he WANTS to or not? Sorry, but I just 
don't have the same attitude that because a certain collectable has a value 
that people who don't take care of them should be reamed. I love my car, 
but I can't enforce those views on others. It's their money, their car, 
their life. 

Mike


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From: raddad@cmn.net
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 13:13:36 -0700
Subject: Re: Cracked dash fix???

Further on cracked dashes --

While tinting the windshield is illegal, there is a new film covering that
is perfectly clear. It stops (reflects back) 95% of UV rays and 55% of heat. 
This should be *GREAT* for our DMCs'. At my altitude, UV is a big concern and 
even with the airconditioner working well, our little interiors
can heat up very fast.

The film is more expensive than the tinted kind since the oxide used in it is 
silver based. Many stores and home in my area have installed it. I don't know 
of any cars yet, but I have seen the product advertised in The Robb Report. 
It probably comes under various names, the one I have seen installed here is 
"Solis".

When parked I also use a very attractive sunshade I got through John Truscott. 
It is silver - matches the car and is a perfect fit. Comes with
a case for storage when not in use. (No more of those ugly cardboard "Call
Police" for our cars.)

An ounce of prevention --oh, well, you know the rest. 

Dick Ryan
The Rad Dad




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From: Duke Bladorn 
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 21:49:05 -0600
Subject: Compatible Muffler

I was talking to Don Stegier at DMC and was asking him how I could get a MUCH 
louder exhaust and he said that some owners had used a muffler off of certain 
'80's model Camaro's. Has anyone here done this or know of another muffler that 
is compatable and would add alot of sound to the 'D? Has anyone used the 'test 
pipe' that replaces the catalyic converter and if so does this make much of a 
difference in the sound of the 'D?

Thanks in advance,

Duke Bladorn
www.geocities.com/motorcity/8952/delorean.html 



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