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dmcnews-digest Friday, 28 February 1997 Volume 02 : Number 216
In this issue:
Re: what to do with original? tires??
For the record...
DMC matchbox car
Third Brake Light options...
Re: Third Brake Light options...
Lube Proceedures
Splashing Gas.
Re: DeLorean Windows
Re: DeLorean Windows
Easier way to replace front speakers
Adjustable link & fewer cars
Caravan to Snowmass
Re: DMC matchbox car
Re: DeLorean windows
Re: DeLorean Windows
Re: Caravan to Snowmass
Leakage
Re: DeLorean Windows
Re: Adjustable link & looking down my nose at Stan
Re: Leakage
Yokohama A378 Tires
NEW DELOREAN?
Craig Radio
DMC Key Blanks
DMC Keys
FAKE DELOREAN???
RE: Yokohama A378 Tires
Re: FAKE DELOREAN???
Dies and the Bricklin
Alabama DMC12 Owners
Re: NEW DELOREAN?
Re: FAKE DELOREAN???
Hot Start Relay
Re: FAKE DELOREAN???
DeLorean Accident Survey RESULTS
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From: James Espey <mikasa@goodnet.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 97 09:58:33 -0000
Subject: Re: what to do with original? tires??
>I am going to replace my front tires. (I think they are original, but I'm
>not positive- what were the original tires? My car is Nov '81.) I got a
>tip that I should save them. At the same time, I really don't have extra
>space to be storing junk. What should I do?
Original equipment tires are Goodyear NCT. There may or may not be
benefits to saving the old tires. From a concours standpoint, there is no
point deduction for NOT having original tires, as they are no longer
manufactured, but who knows how the rules may change down the road.
Depending on their condition, someone may be interested in buying them,
if only for use in concours or a similar event.
James
------------------------------
From: James Espey <mikasa@goodnet.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 97 07:38:44 -0000
Subject: For the record...
Effective Sunday, February 23rd, 1997, I have resigned my position with
the DeLorean Owners Association board of directors. I will remain an
active member of the Association, and I will continue on as the regional
chapter coordinator of Chapter 43. My responsibilities to the DeLorean
Mailing List have not changed.
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
------------------------------
From: Kevin MacDougall <kevinmac@iconn.net>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:34:10 -0500
Subject: DMC matchbox car
http://www.bttf.com/catalog/catalog.htm?
at the above address towards the bottom of the page is a Delorean Matchbox
car for sale it is not a BTTF D it is just original they haveabout a
hundred so act fast.. They cost 18.00
------------------------------
From: thomas mccoy <tpm39843@email.csun.edu>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:01:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Third Brake Light options...
For those interested, J.C. Whitney has third brake lights
available for $140 cheaper than a Corvette light. I have not physically
seen them, so I cannot vouch for'em, but they are super thin and come in
10 or 15 LED's wide. They also offer spoilers with Acura NSX-style brake
lights that, when detached from the spoiler, may look excellent on the
DMC! A catalog should be available at your better news stand...
------------------------------
From: "John W. Herron" <herron@scf.usc.edu>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:08:11 -0700
Subject: Re: Third Brake Light options...
Found a pretty good deal on the Corvette third brake lights...$125 at
Corvettes by J&D. They are located in Bellflower, CA and can be reached
at (800) 838-8358. Also, they have used ones available.
------------------------------
From: CDIUSAMPS@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 01:43:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Lube Proceedures
Can anyone tell me if there is a schematic or written literature
indicating
all of the lube points on the DMC12? I trust my service guy, but always
like
to go back and double check all work done. Thanks, BILL
------------------------------
From: "Eric J. Hennebury" <aj532@freenet.toronto.on.ca>
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:05:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Splashing Gas.
Dan,
I don't think it's so much that you incorrectly filled your gas
tank, I think it just takes some getting used to. Hold to nozzle at
different angles until you find one that works best. On some pumps, I
can't even depress the lever fully, or I always get splash. I find if I
just take my time (especially near the top of the tank) that things
usually go pretty well. Congratulations on your acquisition, and welcome
aboard!
Eric
------------------------------
From: GullWinged@aol.com
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:06:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: DeLorean Windows
>I noticed the DeLorean pictured
>has a
>vertical two-way window and even in the interior shot the window was
>two-way
>vertically. Was this just a prototype car or were some produced this way?
>If so how many?
The original prototype DeLorean, produced in 1977 I believe, had these
sliding vertical windows. However, JZD seemed determined to add power
windows to the car and as a result we are left with the inferior windows
instead of the original design, which IMHO would have been a better way
of doing things.
~ Chase
------------------------------
From: "Marvin S. Sterling" <marv930@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 03:38:02 -0800
Subject: Re: DeLorean Windows
Scott Tester wrote:
>
> I just got a original copy of the DeLorean 3-fold brochure. Delorean Motor
> Company sent it to me with some information for free! I must praise
> DeLorean
> Motor Company for their consideration. I noticed the DeLorean pictured
> has a
> vertical two-way window and even in the interior shot the window was
> two-way
> vertically. Was this just a prototype car or were some produced this way?
> If so how many?
>
> Thanks
>
> Scott Tester testersd@appstate.campus.mci.net
- ---------------------------------
Scott -
It was one of the prototypes and perhaps might have been a better idea.
I don't think that it was powered but rather just slid on tracks.
Regards,
Marv Sterling
------------------------------
From: GullWinged@aol.com
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:05:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Easier way to replace front speakers
>James Espey wrote...
>The front speakers ARE a pain to replace, the problem lies in the
>mounting screws are drawn to the magnet isntead of to the mounting hole.
Sometimes the simplest of solutions can evade us all. I have had similar
problems like this with speakers in other cars, but until now I never
figured out that there is an easy way to avoid the magnet's pull. Replace
the original screws with the same size of stainless steel screws
(available at many hardware stores). True stainless steel is non-magnetic
and should not be attracted to the speaker's magnet like the OEM screws
are.
Why I never thought of this before is beyond my understanding.
~ Chase
"Unless you depend on speed, stability, ease of use, the internet,
graphics, music, or multimedia then you have no real reason
to have a Macintosh. "
- Mark O'Meara
------------------------------
From: Mpeak@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 01:28:02 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Adjustable link & fewer cars
Stan,
The reason the original adjustable clutch link which you have had
experience
were such a hazzard was because of the way they were constructed. They
were
poorly made thus leading to enlarged mounting holes and slack in the
pedal.
Rob Gradys are NOT exactly the same as the ones previously made. His are
forged and thus MUCH stronger and durable. Rob makes ALOT more money off
of
the stainless steel lines which is why I completely respect his opinion
suggesting the adjustable clutch link. Why does Ed Bernstein recommend
getting rid of it and putting in a stainless steel clutch line? Easy,
Rob's
adjustable clutch link is $35, Ed's stainless line is $150. When you
think
about what is going on with the teflon line, an adjustable link seems as
viable a solution as a steel line. The plastic line swells, thus
decreasing
pressure in the line. Therefore the clutch pedal cannot travel far
enough to
disengage the clutch. With the added travel the adjustable link provides,
the clutch can safely disengage.
Stan & Marvin,
With less Deloreans on the road, we are all much WORSE off than better.
Do
you actually think our cars would go up in price if they kept dropping off
the road? There's only 6,500 of them now and they're selling for around
$15K. If cars kept falling off the road, they would earn a reputation as
very poor cars. Also, Delorean specialty shops would either drastically
jack
up their prices or begin dealing with other cars since the Delorean market
wouldn't prove profitable. I feel it is better that more people can enjoy
this car than few. Hoping that other cars fall off the sroad so that you
will be one of a few owners is a very elitest view.
Matt
------------------------------
From: MGintis@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 06:47:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Caravan to Snowmass
I am planning to drive my D from Boston to Snowmass for Expo '97. I would
like to meet others on route and caravan to Snowmass. Anyone interested,
please e-mail me.
Look forward to meet up with other D lovers.
Murray
------------------------------
From: Matt_Mercier@voyager.umeres.maine.edu (Matt Mercier)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 07:42:47 -0500
Subject: Re: DMC matchbox car
I checked out the DMC matchbox, and I am pretty unimpressed. I looks
like a mazda with grey paint and gull wing doors. It aint worth the
scrap metal it is cast in. I do however like the set of the three bttf
vehicles, they get my vote. (they would get more if tuition weren't so
high.)
I made the bttf model once but it got destroyed tragically. I suspect
homicide but the effidence just isn't there. Take it easy
Matt M
------------------------------
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@cesmtp.ccf.org>
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 09:16:29 -0500
Subject: Re: DeLorean windows
Chase said:
> However, JZD seemed determined to add power
> windows to the car and as a result we are left with
> the inferior windows instead of the original design,
> which IMHO would have been a better way of doing
> things.
I am going way out into speculation-land here, but I suspect
the manually operated, horizontal sliding windows were part
of Bill Collins' original plan for the DeLorean. My impression
of Collins is of a sports car enthusiast from the old school.
He wanted the DeLorean to be a serious sports car without
frilly toys like power windows, fancy stereos, power mirrors
and the like.
My guess is that the DeLorean's power windows were added
by Lotus, but I have no evidence to back this up.
Many pictures of prototype DeLoreans with the sliding
windows are featured in Stainless Steel Illusion, the The
DeLorean 1977-1993 and DeLorean 1977-1995 Gold Portfolio
available from DOA (the latter two available from DOA).
- -Mike Substelny
------------------------------
From: Nikki Schumann <Nikki.Schumann@wanadoo.fr>
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:56:09 +0100 (GMT)
Subject: Re: DeLorean Windows
>Scott -
>It was one of the prototypes and perhaps might have been a better idea.
>I don't think that it was powered but rather just slid on tracks.
>Regards,
>Marv Sterling
>
I don't own a Delorean yet and so probably don't see the extra
practicality
that would be brought by bigger windows, however I must say that I very
much
like the window setup on the car as it is. It always makes me think of
something so quick that needs to have only small apertures so that it
remains air tight at high speed. Kind of like small opening windows on an
airplane cockpit only to be used on the ground. I think they considerably
add to the beautiful design of the car.
Nikki.
------------------------------
From: Kevin MacDougall <kevinmac@iconn.net>
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:41:56 -0500
Subject: Re: Caravan to Snowmass
Murray
I think Red Rover and I are going from LI NY
let us know...
At 06:47 AM 2/25/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I am planning to drive my D from Boston to Snowmass for Expo '97. I would
>like to meet others on route and caravan to Snowmass. Anyone interested,
>please e-mail me.
>
>Look forward to meet up with other D lovers.
>
>Murray
>
>
------------------------------
From: Scott Tester <testersd@appstate.campus.mci.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:04:39 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Leakage
I have seen the ST-33 Service Documents about water leakage. Have any of
you
experienced water leakage? If so, where? And does it pertain to any model
year or design? Thanks
Scott Tester testersd@appstate.campus.mci.net
------------------------------
From: "Marvin S. Sterling" <marv930@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 02:23:02 -0800
Subject: Re: DeLorean Windows
Nikki Schumann wrote:
>
> >Scott -
> >It was one of the prototypes and perhaps might have been a better idea.
> >I don't think that it was powered but rather just slid on tracks.
> >Regards,
> >Marv Sterling
> >
> I don't own a Delorean yet and so probably don't see the extra
> practicality
> that would be brought by bigger windows, however I must say that I very
> much
> like the window setup on the car as it is. It always makes me think of
> something so quick that needs to have only small apertures so that it
> remains air tight at high speed. Kind of like small opening windows on an
> airplane cockpit only to be used on the ground. I think they considerably
> add to the beautiful design of the car.
>
> Nikki.
- ----------------------------------------
It's fine unless you are trying to pay a toll on a bridge or highway or
complete a transaction at a bank drive through window.
Regards,
Marv Sterling
------------------------------
From: James Espey <mikasa@goodnet.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 97 06:38:21 -0000
Subject: Re: Adjustable link & looking down my nose at Stan
> Rob Gradys are NOT exactly the same as the ones previously made. His are
>forged and thus MUCH stronger and durable. Rob makes ALOT more money off
>of the stainless steel lines which is why I completely respect his opinion
>suggesting the adjustable clutch link. Why does Ed Bernstein recommend
>getting rid of it and putting in a stainless steel clutch line? Easy,
>Rob's adjustable clutch link is $35, Ed's stainless line is $150.
I have used Rob's adjustable linkage for over a year (including a VERY
hot Arizona summer) and have had zero problems with my clutch since then.
Several times the previous summer (WITH a braided steel clutch line), I
experienced very difficult shifting on hot summer days - I changed
nothing else but added Rob's adjustable linkage. Problems solved.
This linkae is VERY different in both design and construction than the
factory linkage that is shown in the DeLorean One catalog.
The instance in which Stan mentions that I "looked down my nose" at him
is one that I remember well. Stan is in my local chapter and has been
around DeLoreans for years. Stan is very willing to share his opinions
with anybody who will listen, and like many people, I can only listen to
someone spout their opinions for so long, especially when they do it in
such a negative way, as Stan has a tendency to do. For someone who says
"we all in learn in time", you'd think he'd have figured that out by now.
James
------------------------------
From: James Espey <mikasa@goodnet.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 97 06:48:40 -0000
Subject: Re: Leakage
>I have seen the ST-33 Service Documents about water leakage. Have any of you
>experienced water leakage? If so, where? And does it pertain to any model
>year or design? Thanks.
I had a water elak in my DeLorean when I bought it, it's what prompted me
to re-create the ST-33 Service Bulletin and post it on the web page so
others could see it. My car leaked only under very high water pressure
situations (ie high pressure hose at car wash), and the leak was at the
wiper mounting bolts.
James
BTW, for those of you that may have missed it, the ST-33 service bulletin
is available for downloading from the DeLorean Mailing List Web Page at
http://www.goodnet.com/~mikasa/oldnews.html
------------------------------
From: Scott Sykes <ssykes@rsabbs.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 18:41:57 -0500
Subject: Yokohama A378 Tires
Does anyone have any recommedations regarding these Yohohama tires I
found at
"Discount Tire Direct"?
The URL is http://www.tires.com/dtd/direct.html
Welcome to the Discount Tire Direct tire pages.
Yokohama A378
Yokohama designed this all season
touring to be one step above original
equipment type tires. Wide good looking
tread design, a good ride and quiet. We
sell these by the truckload because the
price is right.
Temperature A
Traction A
Size Price
195/60HR-14 $52
235/60HR-15 $66
Thanks,
Scott Sykes
ssykes@rsabbs.com
------------------------------
From: BRUCE BENSON <delornut@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 02:40:53 +0000
Subject: NEW DELOREAN?
Several months ago there was some discussion in this news letter about
what
a new DeLorean would be like. If you look on page 99 of the March ROAD &
TRACK you'll see a small picture of some pages of a past issue of that
magazine. The gull wing car pictured is a one off car called the Isdera.
It
has Porsche suspension and a Mercedes V-8 sitting amidships. The German
car
magazine DIE WELT said in the June 1987 issue that John DeLorean was
involved in the planning of this venture. Automotive News also made that
statement in June of '87 and in their March '87 issue said, while John
DeLorean isn't listed on the corporate papers, he did scout a tract of
land
in Monroe Louisiana for a possible factory. He met with then governor,
Edwin
Edwards about possible financial help from the state of Louisiana. The
company was to be called the Louisiana Motor Company and was planned for
assembling these cars from components shipped from West Germany.
Bruce Benson
------------------------------
From: Gemera@aol.com
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 08:38:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Craig Radio
I want to check my old Craig W460 Radiounit from my DeLorean. Can someone
tell me which wire colors are for the power and the four speakers!?
The workshop manual don't say much about it!
Thanks,
Markus
VIN #2255#
------------------------------
From: Gemera@aol.com
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 08:45:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: DMC Key Blanks
I'm searching for DMC Key Blanks. I have a two key locking system.
Are there only original keys with DMC logo for the ignition or also for
the
doors
made!? For which locks are the illumitated keys (ignition,doors or only
for
one key cars)!?
Thanks,
Mark
VIN #2255#
------------------------------
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@cesmtp.ccf.org>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 09:24:45 -0500
Subject: DMC Keys
Mark asked:
> For which locks are the illumitated keys (ignition,doors
> or only for one key cars)!?
My illuminated key is for the two key system. It works for
the doors only. It came with the car originally in the key set
with the DMC logo. A standard battery & bulb fits the light
well enough.
Unfortunately mine is missing the polymer cover for the push
button. Has anyone found a good substitute for this?
- -Mike Substelny
------------------------------
From: Jameel Ahed <ahed@uiuc.edu>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 09:44:32 -0600
Subject: FAKE DELOREAN???
I was talking with a few of my friends... One of them works in a high
performance shopt... He said he worked on a car called the Bricklin. I
am not sure if that is the correct spelling.. but He said ford made it
and it was a copy of the Delorean? It had the Gullwing doors and a ford
engine instead of the PRV... What is the meaning of this??? Does anyone
know about this... And I was really thinking about how the British
Government threw the dies for the delorean panels in the ocean... Now
come on... Those people were not that stupid... They have to still have
them because any idiot would know how valuable those dies would be when
the parts were not available!!!! Doesn't that make sense... Maybe they
hid the dies to make the car more valuable??? Isn't that possible... I
plan on writing John Z. Delorean and asking some burning questions... I
am sure he probably doesn't want to talk about his car anyway... But
tell me what you think!!! Oh I almost forgot... I heard somewhere that
the wood mock up of the car was sold too.... Does this mean that the car
is completely lost now???? THere is no way of bringing back the panels
or anything????
Jameel Ahed
------------------------------
From: "Chris P. Rabalais" <chrisr@ciscomputers.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 09:10:52 -0000
Subject: RE: Yokohama A378 Tires
I purchased a set about 2 weeks ago to replace the Pirellis (sp?) that
were
the wrong size on the rear. I am quite satisfied with them. Good handling,
well-balanced, and very quiet.. I have no reservations about recommending
them.
1981 VIN #2860
Chris P. Rabalais
Senior V.P., Sales and Marketing
C.I.S. Computer Corporation
6240 East Thomas Road Suites 101-103
Scottsdale, Arizona 85251-7032
(602) 949-6002 (888) 4-PC-NETS
Computer Systems * Network Servers * Integration Services * Internet
Implementation
Custom Software Development * Premise Wiring * Silicon Graphics
Workstations and Servers
HTTP://WWW.CISCOMPUTERS.COM
"Computer Solutions for Business"
Serving the Valley of the Sun Since 1990
------------------------------
From: "Michael E. Gaines" <starman@powerpage.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 12:24:32 -0500
Subject: Re: FAKE DELOREAN???
Jameel Ahed wrote:
>
> I was talking with a few of my friends... One of them works in a high
> performance shopt... He said he worked on a car called the Bricklin. I
> am not sure if that is the correct spelling.. but He said ford made it
> and it was a copy of the Delorean?
Actually, the Bricklin came out about 4 or 5 years before the DeLorean.
(am I wrong?)
> And I was really thinking about how the British
> Government threw the dies for the delorean panels in the ocean... Now
> come on... Those people were not that stupid...They have to still have
> them because any idiot would know how valuable those dies would be
> when the parts were not available!!!!
Yup..this happened. Someone said that divers took pictures of them. I
haven't seen the pictures myself.
>I heard somewhere that
> the wood mock up of the car was sold too..Does this mean that the car
> is completely lost now???? THere is no way of bringing back the panels
> or anything????
Never say never. Who knows what money and motivation might accomplish.
Mike
------------------------------
From: "Don Gowler-CFPO01" <Don_Gowler-CFPO01@email.mot.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 12:27:00 -0600
Subject: Dies and the Bricklin
I heard that the original DeLorean stainless steel panel dies were sold
off for
scrap value and some fishermen bought them and used them for either
lobster trap
or fishing net weights. Trust the salt water has done them no good.
The Bricklin came out in approx 1971 and was manufactured in the province
of New
Brunswick, Canada. Might be interesting to do some social get togethers
with a
Bricklin club. Does anyone out there know of such a club?
Regards, The Silver Fox (A one-time resident of New Brunswick)
------------------------------
From: dmcnews-approval
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 05:08:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Alabama DMC12 Owners
To anyone on the list that is a Delorean owner or enthusiast living in
Alabama and wants to get together and talk shop, compare notes, or
whatever,
e-mail me, and I'll try to arrange something in the near future. BILL
BURDEN
------------------------------
From: Tyler Bovitch <tyche@radius.vector.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 22:20:16 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: NEW DELOREAN?
About the new delorean. I have a magazine article from 1989 motortrend on
this car. It's pretty interesting. Just as I pictured a new De Lorean.
There are a few things though that I would personally change. Such as the
height of the car, and a few cosmetic changes. I can tell you that some
time or another you will see another lookalike "d"
Tyler Bovitch
------------------------------
From: Dan Baisley <gt7116a@prism.gatech.edu>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:13:13 -0500
Subject: Re: FAKE DELOREAN???
At 12:24 PM 2/27/97 -0500, Michael E. Gaines wrote:
>Jameel Ahed wrote:
>>
>> I was talking with a few of my friends... One of them works in a high
>> performance shopt... He said he worked on a car called the Bricklin. I
>> am not sure if that is the correct spelling.. but He said ford made it
>> and it was a copy of the Delorean?
>
>Actually, the Bricklin came out about 4 or 5 years before the DeLorean.
>(am I wrong?)
>
Brought to you by Malcolm Bricklin, the same guy who started the import of
Subarus into the US, and who later gave us the Yugo. Came out in 1974. The
first cars used an AMC engine, later ones used a Ford 351. They were built
on a chassis made by one of the american car companies, I forget which
one.
Dan
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm hungry. Let's get a taco.
__________________________________________________________
------------------------------
From: WINGD2@aol.com
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:39:13 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Hot Start Relay
According to the Delorean work shop manual, the car is wired for a
Hot
Start Relay for use in hot areas of the country. It activates the cold
start
valve during warmed up starting conditions. The Delorean electrical wiring
diagram shows this unit as item #107. Does anyone know where the wiring
for
this relay is located ? Is this the spare slot in the relay compartment
behind the passenger seat ? Also, what size or type of relay is supposed
to
be used ? Thanks for the help.
Marty
------------------------------
From: MICHAEL BABB <mikebabb@vnet.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 17:36:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FAKE DELOREAN???
You are correct, the Bricklin was produced earlier than the DeLorean,
others have compared it to the DeLorean because of the gullwing doors and
the fack that bricklin only went in to produce that care (with no former
Automotive experiance....unlike DeLorean). the car is actually kind of
cool looking....although I have heard that it has WAY more problems than
the DeLorean ever had....it also started out as a safety vehicle (the
SV-1)...sound framilar? if interested....
http://members.aol.com/Brickcar/bricklin.htm
it looks alot like a Corvette with gullwings.
just my 2 cents worth
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From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@cesmtp.ccf.org>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 17:31:41 -0500
Subject: DeLorean Accident Survey RESULTS
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
These figures are provided strictly for the amusement of DML
readers. This non-scientific survey should not be construed
to have any statistical significance due to the small sample
size, STRONGLY biased sampling technique, and
unvalidatable assumptions made during analysis.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
The data trickle has dried up completely, so I am sending
everyone the results of the survey. Enjoy.
In case you missed it, I asked for people to send me four
pieces of data:
1) The number of miles they have driven their DeLorean(s)
during their entire ownership(s).
2) The number of times their DeLorean(s) have been struck
by another motorist in that period. I only wanted
accidents which were the OTHER motorist's fault.
3) The number of miles they have driven any vehicles in
that same time period.
4) The number of times they have been hit in these other
vehicles in the same time period.
Note that I had to edit some of the data. That is, several
people told me their life's story of every car they ever owned
and every mile they drove since World War II. I only wanted
the miles they drove since acquiring a DeLorean, so I
amortized the miles and accidents over the decades to come
up with an estimate for just the recent stuff.
RESULTS:
Miles driven Times hit
Miles/hit
Whole Sample 632,571 12 52,714
Non-DeLoreans 405,571 4 101,393
DeLoreans only 227,000 8 28,375
Believe it or not, our DeLoreans seem to get hit once every
28,375 miles! Compare that to other cars, which are only
struck once every 101,393 miles when driven by the same
drivers. From this data, the DeLorean seems to be an
accident magnet.
This data was just for FUN, but it does lend some credence
to the "low profile causes accidents" theory. Perhaps the
DeLorean is so low that people don't see when the brake
lights come on. Or maybe the DeLorean brake lights are
prone to failure. Either way, I think I will install that center
brake light this summer!
And remember, let's be careful out there.
- -Mike Substelny
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