Tuesday, February 2 1999 Volume 03 : Number 476
In this issue:
Re: DML: DMC- Convertible
DML: Re: seat belt warning buzzer
DML: Automatic to 5 Speed
DML: To all Tri-State DeLorean owners and non-owners
DML: Re: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
DML: Re: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
Re: DML: DMC- Convertible
DML: Re: Automatic to 5 Speed
DML: Auto Alert
DML: Car Covers
DML: Emissions
Re: DML: Idle thoughts
Re: DML: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
DML: Cold Air with Heater On
DML: Re: Cold Air with Heater On
DML: yellow delorean
DML: RE: DMC convertible
DML: Re: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
DML: Re: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
DML: Re: Rear wheel adapter plate
DML: Limited Edition Kits
DML: Re: DMC Convertible
DML: Starting a DeLorean (was Idle Thoughts)
DML: Re: Automatic to 5-Speed
Re: DML: yellow delorean
DML: Re: yellow delorean
DML: Re: Starting a DeLorean (was Idle Thoughts)
DML: Re: yellow DeLorean
DML: Re: Idle thoughts
Re: DML: Re: Idle thoughts
DML: Re: Idle thoughts
DML: Columbus, OH
DML: FYI: DeLorean Mentioning
DML: waterpumps and stuff...
Re: DML: Re: Idle thoughts
DML: JL 8 cards?
Re: DML: RE: DMC convertible
DML: wing span
DML: tire rotation
DML: Rough running....
DML: Looking for a D
Re: DML: wing span
DML: Renting my D
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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:56:21 -0500 From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4(AT)osu.edu> Subject: Re: DML: DMC- Convertible
Joe,
Do you know if he did the sketch for DMC, or was it just a study that
he
did on his own? That may be interesting to know.
Thanks,
Josh
VIN# 5102
DMC Joe wrote:
> Josh, > The artist is Theodore C. Alexander Jr, an automotive illustrator. > > DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:41:07 -0700 From: scottmueller(AT)zebra.net (Scott Mueller) Subject: DML: Re: seat belt warning buzzer
First off, I understand completly how irritating this problem is, but there is no reason that you have to HOLLER ; )
The seat belt buzzer is incorporated in the logic box which is mounted on the steering column under the dash. The logic box has some circuitry in it that makes the dash light stay on for approx. 5 seconds when you try to start the car. If the belt is not connected the buzzer is supposed to sound while the light is on. If the belt is connected when you start the car, the buzzer will not sound but the light will still come on for the five second period. Also the buzzer will sound if the keys are in the ignition and the door is open.
Check to see if the two door switches are working and the wiring is connected properly. Also, check to see if all of the connections at the logic box are clean and tight (You have to stand on your head to work on this) Straighten the pins in the connector.
I ended up replacing the logic box and straightening the pins in the connector to get all of the functions working correctly. It took many phone calls to Steve Wynne (DMC Houston) to trouble shoot my problems. Steve was very hesitant to sell me a logic box because so few of them have gone bad.
PS When I installed the new logic box, I placed a piece of masking tape over the "speaker" so the noise emitted was not so obnoxious.
Scott Mueller
Mobile, AL
1981/002981 DOA-5031 DMCNEWS
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- -----Original Message----- From: Brad Fudge
Subject: DML: seat belt warning buzzer
>MY SEAT BELT WARNING SIGNAL IS INTERMITTENT. AT TIMES, EVEN THOUGH MY = >SEAT BELT IS BUCKLED THE WARNING BUZZER (SIGNAL) WILL CONTINUE TO SOUND. = > THE SOUND IS OBNOXIOUS! I HAVE CONSIDERED DISCONNECTING THE WARNING = >BUZZER. DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW? I WOULD MUCH RATHER REPLACE THE FAULTY = >PART (SENDING UNIT) DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE Snip I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY HELP.
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:00:46 +0100 From: Mats Karlsson <ford.prefect(AT)hehe.com> Subject: DML: Automatic to 5 Speed
Hi all.
I just have a question...
I have always been a lover of manual transmissions, and now it seems that I might be able to get a really good deal on a 1981 Automatic D.
Has anyone ever tried an Automatic to manual conversion? And if so, is it difficult? Are the parts available?
Please excuse me if this question is silly, but I'm not exactly a mechanic...
Thanks, Matt
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:27:55 -0500 From: "DOUG T VENNER" <DMC12(AT)prodigy.net> Subject: DML: To all Tri-State DeLorean owners and non-owners
This is way in advance but I would like to spark interest before the show season begins. My British car club (Positive Earth Drivers Club) is hosting our second annual car show July 25, 1999. It is held in Lavallette NJ, on the bay-front. We had 70 cars attend our club's first ever show last year. I would love to have some DeLorean's attend. I will be there with mine. E-mail me for any further info. Also, I would love to get together with other D owners. I have met some of you guys over the years, but would love it if we could all get together maybe once a month, once a season, or whatever. E-mail me with any interest. Thanx Doug Venner NJ 83 DeLorean #16880 71 MG BGT 78 MG Midget 85 Fiero GT
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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 15:35:37 -0700 From: scottmueller(AT)zebra.net (Scott Mueller) Subject: DML: Re: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
During the late 70's and early 80's, the Federal Government in an effort to get us to slow down and conserve fuel, mandated that cars could only have speedo's that showed a maximum speed of 85 mph.
Makes a lot of since, doesn't it.
The speedo is magneticaly coupled, it will not be damaged at higher speeds. As for maximum speed, it depends on how the engine is tuned. Some claim that 140+ is possible.
Scott Mueller
Mobile, AL
1981/002981 DOA-5031 DMCNEWS
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- -----Original Message----- From: Tris Harvey-Rice
Date: Sunday, January 31, 1999 10:11 AM Subject: DML: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
The Delorean's 2.8L engine must = >be able to well above 85 - does anyone know why the dial had such a low = >maximum? Has anyone gone beyond 85 in a DeLorean with an original = >speedo? Did the needle go past 85 or get stuck?? > >I worry about these things! > >Tris >No VIN. *waaaa * >------------------
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:44:53 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
Tris, During the late 70's, during the oil embargo, the US government implemented many rules and regulations in order to reduce fuel consumption. Government buildings turned off all unnecessary lighting to reduce power consumption, speed limits were limited to 55 MPH, and auto manufacturers were ordered to limit speedometers to 85 MPH. I'm sure most DeLorean drivers have driven their cars in excess of 85 MPH, when they do the speedo will just peg at 85. The DeLorean is capable of 125 plus, many owners have exchanged their speedo's to the 140 and 160 upgrades. Hope we have answered all of your questions.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:48:31 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: DML: DMC- Convertible
Josh, He drew the pictures because of a personal interest in the car and not for DMC.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:16:38 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Automatic to 5 Speed
Matt, A trans conversion requires frame, gear shift linkage, and electrical modifications. Very labor intensive and very expensive.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:46:16 -0500 From: Joe Palatinus <jpalatinus(AT)earthlink.net> Subject: DML: Auto Alert
I was reading on of my De Gull Wings from 1987, and I found a very interesting piece of equitment. It is called The auto alert voice warning system. It conects to all of your gauges and tells you that you gas in low, or the engine temp is too high. I was just curious if anyone had one of these devices, or if anyone knows where you could get one of these devices today. Thanks Joe P. VIN 6808
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:05:42 EST From: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com Subject: DML: Car Covers
Hey everyone, My two cents worth on Car Covers! Go to your friendly local Wal-Mart, and back in the Auto Center, you will find a cover by a company called BUDGE. On the back of any box you will actually see the DeLorean listed. I believe the correct size is #2, and is UNDER $20.00. I bought one last year, and you might think that it was a custom cover, the fit is so good.
Jeff Cox VIN# 5705 IN2TIME
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 18:07:05 EST From: Mike03062(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: Emissions
The solution to your emission problems is to move to New Hampshire, where we no longer have emission testing. Actually one does not need a title for any vehicle over 10 years old here. In fact I have helped out a few Old Car Enthusiasts with title problems (only people I know to be honest, of course) BTW has anyone checked out the "D" Parts car in January Hemmings? It's in Texas.
Mike03062(AT)Aol.com
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:14:13 -0800 From: "lseiler(AT)radiance.com" <lseiler(AT)radiance.com> Subject: Re: DML: Idle thoughts
At 05:39 PM 1/29/99 EST, you wrote: >>>You should feel very lucky that you car contains the Bosch K-Jetronic Fuel >System. This is by far the simplest and one of the most reliable fuel >injection system ever developed. << > >Simple? Then why does it take up 45 pages in the Manual?! >( You're kiddin' me, right?) > >Anyway, I didn't hear any viable suggestions from anyone here as to how > to diagnose or fix a "simple" high idle problem, so I really have to > question how easy and simple this system is. > reply:
It's not hard at all,
On top of the manifold are 3 adjusting screws.
The throttle body on the PRV V-6 engine contains an air adjusting screw and two air balancing screws. To adjust the idle start the engine and run it until it has reached normal working temperature ( when cooling thermostat opens. Check that the engine is 775 +/- 50RPM and runs smoothly. Check ignition timing at 13 Degrees +/- at 775 and adjust if necessary. Rev the engine to 2000RPM and check that t5he timing is about 40 degrees B.T.D.C. Using idle speed screw common to both banks, adjust the idle speed to 950 RPM.Check Dwell operation for duty cycle is 50% +/- 3.0 degrees. The re adjust idle speed screw to 825 to 900 RPM.
Full fuel, emission and exhaust system operation and adjustment can be found starting at D:01:01to D:10:01 in your manual.
Lee
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:16:26 -0500 From: Dan <dan(AT)angband.org> Subject: Re: DML: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
On Sat, Jan 30, 1999 at 08:45:33PM -0000, Tris Harvey-Rice wrote:
> The Delorean's 2.8L engine must = > be able to well above 85 - does anyone know why the dial had such a low = > maximum?
There was a law in the USA at the time that mandated that all speedometers had to stop at 85 and have a clearly defined marking at 55. (55 was the national speed limit from 1973 to 1995.) An 85mph speedo was required from 79 to 86 or so. My friend had a Buick with a digital speedometer, when you passed 85 it just flashed 85 at you.
Dan
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:47:04 -0700 (MST) From: brock(AT)rafiki.cotcomsol.com Subject: DML: Cold Air with Heater On
Whenever I turn my heater on, I start to get a large cold air draft from the passenger side footwell. So far I haven't been able to tell where it is coming from. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Any ideas?
Thanks,
Brock Williams #02680
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 19:15:49 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Cold Air with Heater On
Brock, This is a common problem and is easy to fix. The only special tool required is a long slender (human) arm. Working from the drivers foot well reach into the opening just to the right of the accelerator pedal towards the open space between the firewall and air plenum. With the heater on you should feel cold air coming from that area. The source of the cold air is an opening that should be sealed by a piece of foam rubber attached to the air plenum. This foam seal is partially detached because the adhesive applied at the factory has dried out. To correct this problem do whatever is necessary to block this opening. Because of the limited working space in this area you will probably find that a piece of duct tape placed over the foam should correct the problem. Another easy solution is to stuff a piece of packing foam between the firewall and the seal.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:55:51 +0000 From: Albert Siegel <siegel(AT)bellsouth.net> Subject: DML: yellow delorean
Does anyone have any good photos of a yellow and/or black DeLorean they can send me? Maybe a web site.... Thank you.
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 20:23:18 +0000 From: "darryl(AT)techline.com" <darryl(AT)techline.com> Subject: DML: RE: DMC convertible
For what its worth there is a guy in the Seattle area who has purchased several junk DeLoreans and is supposedly in the process of making one into a convert. A few years ago I sold him the remains of a twin turbo setup that had gone through a fire, and at that time he said he had already purchased the top, off of a Camaro of unknown vintage. I believe the plan was to have non-opening doors, cut down low along the armrest kind of like a Kaiser Darrin. I've since lost track of him, but maybe he is lurking out there, or someone else may know more about it.
Darryl Tinnerstet Specialty Automotive 4 LaBelle Lane McCleary, WA 98557 PH: 360-495-4640 FAX: 360-495-4680
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 01:28:03 -0800 From: "Dave Price" <davep2(AT)clipper.net> Subject: DML: Re: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
>it!) and it's speedo goes up to 100mph. The Delorean's 2.8L engine must = >be able to well above 85 - does anyone know why the dial had such a low = >maximum? Has anyone gone beyond 85 in a DeLorean with an original = >speedo? Did the needle go past 85 or get stuck??
The 85MPH speedo was due to federal regulations at the time. Corvettes mocked this law by numbering their speedos to 85, but the range was much greater - just blank on the last half of the face... As far as what happens when you reach the top speed? It just stays slightly past the 85 until you drop back down to 85mph.. Some folks claim that this causes their angle drive to freeze, or is possible that the angle drive simply doesn't like going that fast?
Take care!
- - Dave
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 07:57:24 -0600 From: magriese(AT)us.ibm.com Subject: DML: Re: DMC Speed and Speed-ometer
Tris wrote
> The Delorean's 2.8L engine must = be able to well above 85 - does anyone know why the dial had such a low = maximum? Has anyone gone beyond 85 in a DeLorean with an original = speedo? Did the needle go past 85 or get stuck?? <
Very short answer - Federal regulations. In an effort to keep people from speeding, it was mandated that speedometers top out at 85mph. I have an '84 Lincoln Mk VII (the return of the hotrod Lincoln!) that has a digital dash that also stops at 85mph. After an aggressive pass you coast forever before the speedometer starts to change again.
By the way, the needle on the DeLorean does not get stuck above 85.
Michael A. Griese Storage Software Development Manager IBM Storage Systems Division Rochester, MN 55901 Internet: magriese(AT)us.ibm.com voice: (507)253-1853 fax: (507)253-2880
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:01:42 -0600 From: magriese(AT)us.ibm.com Subject: DML: Re: Rear wheel adapter plate
Sean wrote
> Does anyone know why this "adapter plate" is used as opposed to making = that portion of the rotor thicker by the same amount as the adapter = plate thickness? <
Probably because the rotors were "borrowed" from another higher volume car. Specialty makes do this all the time to keep costs down.
> Also, just for curiosity, I mounted the wheel without the adapter plate = (with the car on jack stands) and rotated it and found no interference = issues, so is it really needed? <
Without the plate you are changing the rear track, which will have some effect on handling.
Michael A. Griese Storage Software Development Manager IBM Storage Systems Division Rochester, MN 55901
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 08:04:54 -0600 From: magriese(AT)us.ibm.com Subject: DML: Limited Edition Kits
A number of people have contacted me about obtaining one of the left-over kits. I'm just the hired help - you really need to contact Lee directly. His e-mail ID is
lseiler(AT)radiance.com
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 08:29:10 -0500 From: Mike Substelny <msubstel(AT)lorainccc.edu> Subject: DML: Re: DMC Convertible
Bruce said:
>Back in the early days of the 'Federal Saftey Czars' convertivbles were >considered a potential liability in Detroit and production of them stopped >for a period of years.
Bruce brings up a good point. The DeLorean was designed and built during the climax of the anti-convertible mentality in the US. Many manufacturers were convinced that all convertibles would be permanently banned by Federal law. Chances are that DMC assumed that no one would ever convert a DeLorean to a ragtop, so they did nothing make that operation easy.
The torsional stiffness of the DeLorean is already very, very low. If you weaken the roof further you are begging for your windshield and back window to crack, along with other body twist related headaches.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 08:34:53 -0500 From: Mike Substelny <msubstel(AT)lorainccc.edu> Subject: DML: Starting a DeLorean (was Idle Thoughts)
Lisa said:
>. . .Then I started it, and for the first time since I've owned it it started >like a car ought to! No more VAAAARRROOOMM!!! and no more >high idle. However, the engine was warm at the time so I wasn't >quite ready to call it a victory. This morning when I started it it required >a slight depression of the gas pedal . . .
This is not so bad. The owner's manual actually says the you are *supposed* to depress the gas pedal slightly when you start a DeLorean. This is unlike most other fuel injected cars.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 08:40:35 -0500 From: Mike Substelny <msubstel(AT)lorainccc.edu> Subject: DML: Re: Automatic to 5-Speed
Matt asked:
> Has anyone ever tried an Automatic to manual conversion? > And if so, is it difficult? Are the parts available?
DMC Joe answered:
> A trans conversion requires frame, gear shift linkage, and > electrical modifications. Very labor intensive and very expensive.
Because the frame itself is different for Automatic vs 5-Speed DeLoreans I think the tranny exchange is not worth the trouble. Is this automatic DeLorean really such a good deal? If so my advice is to buy it and resell it or trade it in on a good, factory 5-Speed car.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:32:40 -0700 From: raddad(AT)cmn.net Subject: Re: DML: yellow delorean
>Does anyone have any good photos of a yellow and/or black DeLorean they >can send me? Maybe a web site.... Thank you. - ----------------------------- I followed JZD's venture for years in the auto mags but had never seen a DeLorean "in the flesh" until I was driving through Pomona,CA in late '81 and saw a DeLorean in the showroom of Tate Cadillac. It was,IMHO, the ugliest color of yellow I haad ever seen. In fact, it was the color that caused me to stop and go inside so I could ask them just what they were thinking of when they decided to paint a DeLorean that color. Well, it worked - for them, that is - for I ultimately bought my brand new - unpainted - DeLorean from Tate Cadillac. Sorry, no pictures, but I had to share the story.
As to a black DeLorean, contact delorean(AT)compusnet.com - I think he has a bunch of pictures of a black DeLorean he is getting ready to put on his web site.
Dick Ryan VIN 16867
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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 17:41:38 -0700 From: scottmueller(AT)zebra.net (Scott Mueller) Subject: DML: Re: yellow delorean
If you go to the German web site, you will see a photo of a yellow DeLorean with an american flag in the back ground. I took that shot at the Pacific Coast Dream Machines show in Half Moon Bay near San Francisco.
When I get a chance, I will add it to my web page.
Currently, I am busier than a one legged man in a rear end kicking contest.
Scott Mueller
Mobile, AL
1981/002981 DOA-5031 DMCNEWS
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- -----Original Message----- From: Albert Siegel <siegel(AT)bellsouth.net> To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com <dmcnews(AT)world.std.com> Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 5:51 AM Subject: DML: yellow delorean
>Does anyone have any good photos of a yellow and/or black DeLorean they >can send me? Maybe a web site.... Thank you. >
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:12:22 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Starting a DeLorean (was Idle Thoughts)
Mike, FYI, although the owners manual says to depress the accelerator pedal when starting the engine, it is not necessary to do so. A properly maintained DeLorean will start within the first few seconds of starting and continue to idle without touching the gas pedal even in sub freezing temperatures.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:00:32 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: yellow DeLorean
Albert, If you can get your hands on the book "DeLorean Stainless Steel Illusion" go to page 120, there you will find a yellow, midnight blue, and red DeLorean. This book is rare but can be found in some libraries.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:13:09 EST From: Msstrygrl(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: Re: Idle thoughts
As to how I resolved my idle problem: Everything was checked (several times over) -- the throttle, the microswitch, the idle adjustments screws, the throttle lever screws, and all electrical connections. The Idle Speed Regulator was removed and cleaned, and wired up outside the car to check for proper rotor functions - and all of the above are in *perfect* operating condition. So, this leaves the ECU module as the likely source of the malfunction. I think it's possible that an ECU could degrade over 18 years. Anyone out there had to replace their ECU module?
In any case, having removed the Idle Speed Regulator, and having firmly plugged off both air hoses it had connected with, then setting the throttle plates open a little via the throttle lever screw, my car is idling perfectly and starting fine even on a cold morning. Starting cold it does require about a minute of warming before you drive off, otherwise you may have to give it a little gas at the first stop sign to insure it doesn't kill. But after a couple of minutes it's perfect.
Lisa VIN 1353
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:13:45 EST From: Msstrygrl(AT)aol.com Subject: Re: DML: Re: Idle thoughts
>> The repair procedure you described is a good temporary alternative to your high idle problem but will interfere with your emissions operation and may cause hard starting. <<
Thanks for your response Joe. And thanks for mentioning that the '78 Volvo 260 had a carb. I'll save that piece of info for when the D becomes exempt in CA from smog testing. In CA especially they're likely to flunk you if they figure out you've altered your emissions system. Even if your emissions haven't actually increased! (isn't that sick?) So I guess the carb idea will have to go on hold for awhile. Fortunately, my problems seemed to be ironed out for now.
I do have a question though: How would disabling my idle regulator, as I have, interfere with my emissions operation?
Thanks again, Lisa
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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:11:15 EST From: Msstrygrl(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: Re: Idle thoughts
Regarding the difficulty of correcting a high idle Lee wrote:
>It's not hard at all, >On top of the manifold are 3 adjusting screws. >The throttle body on the PRV V-6 engine contains an air > adjusting screw and two air balancing screws....
Lee, have you actually performed your recommended procedure on your own car? I'm curious, because on my car these 3 adjustment screws are irrelevant.
>Full fuel, emission and exhaust system operation and > adjustment can be found starting at D:01:01to D:10:01 > in your manual.
I'm wondering if perhaps there are different issues of the D manual, because at the bottom of page D:01:13 of mine it states the following:
"The throttle body on the PRV V-6 engine contains an air adjusting screw and two air balancing screws. These adjustment screws are not used on the De Lorean since an electronic idle speed control system is used. The air adjusting screw should be fully seated to eliminate any air bypass at the throttle plates."
I would have no reason to unseat this screw in order to lower my idle, as it would not do so, so I'm a bit baffled by your post. Perhaps you can clarify.
Lisa
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 01:32:45 -0500 (EST) From: Sandro John Di Giacomo <sandro(AT)UDel.Edu> Subject: DML: Columbus, OH
Greetings,
This year during my spring break a few friends and I will be heading out to Columbus to visit one of our friends at OSU, and one day we are planning to head up to Cleveland to see the auto museum and maybe check out the KAPAC/Consolidated/DMC Houston Warehouse...is there anyone in that area who might know of some other places of interest to visit (either DeLorean or non-DeLorean related)?
Thanks!
Sandro J. Di Giacomo
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:41:48 -0600 From: "Daniel McGauley" <hawkeye(AT)creativeworlds.com> Subject: DML: FYI: DeLorean Mentioning
Recently the DeLorean and/or JZD has been mentioned on three t.v. shows:
1) Win Ben Stein's Money: two questions were asked about him 2) VH1: Pop-up video: Talking Heads - Road to Nowhere :( 3) The Superbowl.
- -Daniel
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 06:29:10 -0000 From: Dennis Mansfield <dman(AT)yahoo.com> Subject: DML: waterpumps and stuff...
A while back there was some talk about waterpumps and last nite I ran across this at the delorean motor company website:
http://www.usadmc.com/feature.html
Check it out!
D-man
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 08:47:04 -0500 From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: DML: Re: Idle thoughts
Try cleaning the connections on the ECU?
Maybe someone in the area would be willing to lend you one to test...
Msstrygrl(AT)aol.com wrote:
> So, this leaves the ECU module as the likely source of the malfunction. > I think it's possible that an ECU could degrade over 18 years. Anyone > out there had to replace their ECU module? >
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 06:21:55 PST From: brian_roy(AT)excite.com Subject: DML: JL 8 cards?
Looking through my newly acquired Johnny Lightning cars I noticed two things.
The first was that I have a full set. (YEAH!)
The second is that there are at least nine different cards to collect. I know the package says eight but I have nine.
Anyone else run into this?
I will work on getting pictures to prove my point.
Thanks Brian #4150
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 07:46:49 -0800 From: "lseiler(AT)radiance.com" <lseiler(AT)radiance.com> Subject: Re: DML: RE: DMC convertible
At 08:23 PM 1/31/99 +0000, you wrote: >For what its worth there is a guy in the Seattle area who has purchased >several junk DeLoreans and is supposedly in the process of making one >into a convert.
Snip....................
Hi all and thanks for the DMC Convertible thread. It was a great help in finding information not other wise available. Once again we all can thank James for such a great resource.
I have drawn a conclusion that there has been interest in, but no actual creation of a Delorean convertible.
For any interested I intend to create a Delorean convertible model with drawings to post later this month or the beginning of next month. The illustrations will be first the model some time thereafter. All this effort is subject to completing the limited edition. BTW I am on a leave of absence so I can get the kits out ASAP.
It will feature Gull winged doors when the top is up and standard swing open doors when the top is down. It will not have a role bar, which I think spoils the lines. It will also feature full retractable wing windows when the top is down. It will also feature two BIG flush aircraft air scoops and a monster V8.
Excepting the V8 the actual creation of such a DMC in full size would not be that difficult. I suppose the model approach is the seed of converting my own DMC to a Convertible???
I wonder?????is he mad? they all thought looking at one another.
Lee wonderfinger
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 12:30:42 EST From: Zack D Stewart <shaggydog4(AT)juno.com> Subject: DML: wing span
Is the " Wing Span" of the doors on a D about the same as on a car with regular doors.
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:50:57 -0500 (EST) From: brian metz <metz.50(AT)osu.edu> Subject: DML: tire rotation
I've noticed the posts referring to replacement tires and was wondering what do we do about rotating our tires? Since front to back rotation is out and I don't want to have to break the tire down to rotate it, do you just not rotate tires on the D? (You could rotate tires from side to side without breaking them down, but this means that the tires would be changing direction. You should never do this with radial tires.)
Also, I read a mention of a "headlight upgrade" on the D. What is this? Just changing of the bulbs or something more intense?
Finally, Brad: (and others with same problem) on the seat belt buzzer. I thought I had a similar problem (that my seat belt buzzer was intermittent coming on and going off. It turned out that it was the warning for the key in the ignition with the door open. The door wasn't open (obviously), but the switch that controls this was out of adjustment.
Brian
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:51:32 -0600 From: Greg Guillot <gguillot(AT)mccno.com> Subject: DML: Rough running....
Here's a question that I can't seem to find an answer to in the back issues:
I am restoring my D (#3926) and have just recently begun working on the engine. It had sat up for many years, so as part of the restoration, I have replaced the fuel pump, examined the pick up assembly, replaced the fuel filter, spark plugs, distributor cap, rotor, and air filter and all fluids. When I turn the ignition key, the car usually starts right up. It will run rough, but will usually smooth out after a few seconds. I get a lot of white smoke out of the tailpipes. However, it will not idle, and will eventually begin to run rough again and kill if I don't keep my foot on the pedal and coax it along. The worst part is, if I run it this way for a few minutes and then kill the engine, it will not restart. Now I thought this might be the accumulator, but since I only run it for a minute or two at the most, I don't see how the engine could be getting hot enough for vapor lock yet. Anybody have any ideas where to start checking first?
Thanks, Greg Guillot VIN 2926 ************************************************ Morial Convention Center - New Orleans Greg Guillot, Director of Info Systems & Services 900 Convention Center Blvd,New Orleans, LA 70130 Phone (504) 582-3116,Fax (504) 582-3104 Email gguillot(AT)mccno.com ************************************************
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 13:07:28 PST From: "Jim Plamondon" <saab82(AT)hotmail.com> Subject: DML: Looking for a D
Hi, this is Jim.
I'm looking for a near perfect Twin Turbo DeLorean that is a early 81', w/ gas flap, 5-sp, and black int.
Thanks,
Jim Plamondon 1746
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 16:09:18 -0500 (EST) From: William T Wilson <fluffy(AT)snurgle.org> Subject: Re: DML: wing span
On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Zack D Stewart wrote:
> Is the " Wing Span" of the doors on a D about the same as on a > car with regular doors.
Even though they look like they will take up a lot of space, the hinge is close enough to the center of the top that they actually only require about 14 inches to open. The general rule is that if you can't get the doors open, you probably can't get out of the car.
When open, I think the doors extend just a little over 6 feet into the air.
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 16:27:17 -0500 From: "Jack Stiefel" <Stiefel(AT)bladerunnertackle.com> Subject: DML: Renting my D
I know this topic has been covered a little bit in the past, but I am = curious as to one point. How much should I be renting My D out for on = special occasions? I am finding great interest in my car locally since there are only a few = of them, and it made me ponder the thought of renting it out for = conventions and the like ( not to be rented out to drive or anything = like that, just for show). There are several resorts near my summer = home and they all seem excited about having the opportunity to use it. My mother is a lawyer and is going to draw up any papers that are = necessary, but the cost still eludes me.
Help!!!
Jack Stiefel President Blade Runner Tackle Corporation President Leslie Leasing Corporation Visit us at: http://www.bladerunnertackle.com or my DeLorean page at: = http://www.geocities.com/rodeodrive/8601/delorean.html
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