Thursday, February 4 1999 Volume 03 : Number 477
In this issue:
Re: DML: FYI: DeLorean Mentioning
Re: DML: wing span
DML: A revelation!
Re: DML: wing span
Re: DML: Looking for a D
Re: DML: A revelation!
DML: RE: tire rotationn
DML: Re: Rough running....
DML: Re: Re: Idle thoughts
DML: Re: Re: Idle thoughts
DML: Re: Renting my D
DML: Driving Impression
RE: DML: FYI: DeLorean Mentioning
DML: Workshop or Parts Manual
Re: DML: Renting my D
DML: Spring Break in Cleveland
DML: DML Looking for a D
DML: DMC trade Mark
DML: Re: Rough running....
DML: FS: '81 5-speed, 37k miles, immaculate condition.
DML: A/C condenser (radiator) needed...
DML: DashMat offered...
DML: Re: DMC trade Mark
DML: Serious Brake Pull
DML: Fw: TIRES
DML: John DeLorean scammed?
DML: More interesting info about the original DMC
DML: Goodyear GT II
DML: Re: Goodyear GT II
DML: Re: Serious Brake Pull
DML: Re: DashMat offered...
Re: DML: Looking for a D
DML: '81 delorean/5Kmiles
DML: RE: Serious Brake Pull
Re: DML: Serious Brake Pull
Re: DML: Goodyear GT II
DML: expo's
DML: lost e-mail
DML: Re: DashMat offered...
DML: Re: Serious Brake Pull
Re: DML: Looking for a D
DML: Auto Trans Computer Rebuild successful!!!
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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:27:08 -0500 From: Joe Capasso <capasso(AT)cyberenet.net> Subject: Re: DML: FYI: DeLorean Mentioning
At what point in the Superbowl was the DeLorean mentioned?
Joe capasso(AT)cyberenet.net
Daniel McGauley wrote:
> Recently the DeLorean and/or JZD has been mentioned on three t.v. shows: > > 1) Win Ben Stein's Money: two questions were asked about him > 2) VH1: Pop-up video: Talking Heads - Road to Nowhere :( > 3) The Superbowl. > > -Daniel
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:17:24 -0700 (MST) From: raddad(AT)cmn.net Subject: Re: DML: wing span
> Is the " Wing Span" of the doors on a D about the same as on a >car with regular doors. - ---------------------------- No - it is much narrower - especially when compared to two-door cars. I used to know the exact distance it took to open the doors, but have mislaid that bit of trivia. It is in the neighborhood of 14" and I'm sure someone will post the exact measurement.
Dick Ryan VIN 16867
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:59:11 EST From: JCox4001(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: A revelation!
No, I did not invent time travel, but a fellow lister named Marty got me to thinking. (no pun intended). There is an event each year here in Memphis called "Memphis in May". It is a month long celebration which kicks off with the Beale Street Music Festival, which is a three day outdoor event held down on the riverfront, usually the first Friday, Saturday, and Sunday of May. The second weekend is the World Championship Bar-B-Q contest. The last weekend is the Sunset Symphony, performed by the Memphis Symphony. In between, there is tons of music, and fun.
This might be an opportunity, on a very casual basis, for quite a few of us to get together, that live too far away to participate in most DeLorean events. If there is an interest, I would be happy to arrange for a get together, on whatever scale you guys would like. If you've never been to Memphis, it is easy to get around, the Bar-B-Q is fabulous, the music is spectacular, and dont forget Elvis. Yall let me know what you think!
Jeff Cox VIN#5705 IN2TIME
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:49:50 MST From: "Adam Michael" <amichael10(AT)hotmail.com> Subject: Re: DML: wing span
No, actually the "wing span" is less than a conventional door. At full height the doors stick out 4" and only require 12" total clearance to open. Here's a short story: My friend parked his '86 'Vette next to our DeLorean in our garage so we could work on his stereo system. Well, space was tight, due to our lawn tractor and a few other things against the right wall, so he was VERY close to the DeLorean. He couldn't get out the driver's side of his 'Vette because he didn't have enough room to open the doors far enough to get out. So, just for the heck of it, I opened the DeLorean's passenger door just to see if it would clear. And guess what? It did! I climbed in and out of it with ease, where my friend had to crawl across to his passenger side to get out of his Corvette!
Adam Michael, VIN#1428 The DeLorean Corner: http://members.tripod.com/~DeLoreanDMC/index.html
>To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com >Subject: DML: wing span >From: Zack D Stewart <shaggydog4(AT)juno.com> >Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 12:30:42 EST >Reply-To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > > > Is the " Wing Span" of the doors on a D about the same as on a >car with regular doors. >
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:14:22 PST From: "Marc Barth" <d16y8(AT)hotmail.com> Subject: Re: DML: Looking for a D
Aren't we all. Does anybody know about how many Deloreans have been converted to twin turbo. Is it just a small handful or more than that? Thanks in advance.
>From: "Jim Plamondon" <saab82(AT)hotmail.com> >To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com >Subject: DML: Looking for a D >Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 13:07:28 PST >Reply-To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > >Hi, this is Jim. > >I'm looking for a near perfect Twin Turbo DeLorean that is a early 81', >w/ gas flap, 5-sp, and black int. > >Thanks, > >Jim Plamondon >1746
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 22:25:46 -0500 From: haldeman <haldeman(AT)fuse.net> Subject: Re: DML: A revelation!
Sounds Great Jeff - just let us know what, where and when you plan - I've got to try the BBQ!
David & Josh Haldeman VIN 5102
JCox4001(AT)aol.com wrote:
> No, I did not invent time travel, but a fellow lister named Marty got me > to > thinking. (no pun intended). There is an event each year here in Memphis > called "Memphis in May". It is a month long celebration which kicks off > with > the Beale Street Music Festival, which is a three day outdoor event held > down > on the riverfront, usually the first Friday, Saturday, and Sunday of May. (SNIP) > easy to get around, the Bar-B-Q is fabulous, the music is spectacular, and > dont forget Elvis. Yall let me know what you think! > > Jeff Cox > VIN#5705 > IN2TIME
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:31:40 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Coplen <Blarness(AT)ix.netcom.com> Subject: DML: RE: tire rotationn
You should not change radial tires side to side (rotation reversal) on = radials of yester-year. I'm sorry to call the 80's the "days of old" = but they really are. This is "old" thinking" that used to be true. You = CAN reverse rotate MODERN 90's style radial tires. =20
Although as a last note, I personally would not recommend reverse = rotating any tire that is more than two years old ever due to belt aging = and slipping. You can reverse rotate any modern radial until they get = to be two or three years old. I've even reverse rotated the radials on = my 61 Valiant this year that I bought new in 94. They still run as = smooth as ever. I've put 32,000 miles on those tires before I reverse = rotated them.
I would NEVER reverse rotate the Original NCT-60's I have on my D. = They're not of the same quality as modern tires.
Chris Coplen #3876
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:08:14 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Rough running....
Greg, The white smoke on start up usually indicates excess un-burnt fuel in the combustion chamber. This can usually be corrected by a CO mixture adjustment. This would also cause a rough running condition. You are right about the accumulator not being at fault.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:31:38 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Re: Idle thoughts
Lisa, The idle speed modules have a 15% failure rate and are in short supply. PJ Grady has an excellent upgrade for under $200.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:53:24 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Re: Idle thoughts
Lisa, You are correct, Lee is incorrect, and the workshop manual is not sure. Actually the Workshop Manual has several incorrect statements. To update your manual delete 10, & 13 at D:04:01, and 15 & 19 at D:04:02. The three brass screws should be turned clockwise as far as they will go, they have no function on the DeLorean. FYI the three screws are there for pre 1980 Volvo's without an idle speed system.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:02:13 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Renting my D
Jack, We rent DeLoreans for all types of events, our minimum charge is $250.00 plus $25.00 per hour for a static display i.e.: not driven, no electric (lights), and doors closed & locked. If the client wants the doors open the charge is $35.00 per hour with a stipulation that the client shall provide suitable barriers for crowd control to keep spectators from entering the vehicle. We include a damage waver and add travel and accommodations when the vehicle exceeds a minimum distance from its home base.
Also be aware that if the car is brought indoors in a public building many local codes require that the gas tank be empty and the battery disconnected.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
- ---------- > From: Jack Stiefel <Stiefel(AT)bladerunnertackle.com> > To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Subject: DML: Renting my D > Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 4:27 PM > > I know this topic has been covered a little bit in the past, but I am = > curious as to one point. How much should I be renting My D out for on = > special occasions? > I am finding great interest in my car locally since there are only a few = > of them, and it made me ponder the thought of renting it out for = > conventions and the like ( not to be rented out to drive or anything = > like that, just for show). There are several resorts near my summer = > home and they all seem excited about having the opportunity to use it. > My mother is a lawyer and is going to draw up any papers that are = > necessary, but the cost still eludes me. > > Help!!! > > Jack Stiefel > President Blade Runner Tackle Corporation > President Leslie Leasing Corporation > Visit us at: http://www.bladerunnertackle.com > or my DeLorean page at: = > http://www.geocities.com/rodeodrive/8601/delorean.html
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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 22:10:38 PST From: "Robert Starling" <doc__5252(AT)hotmail.com> Subject: DML: Driving Impression
I have been requested by several people that visit my web sight to include a driving impression of the Delorean. Well I did finally break down and write one, which can now be found on my sight " Stainless Steel Dream" http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/stainlesssteel/index.html
Anyone wanting to add their own driving impression of the Delorean to my page or feel that I left something out please contact me. doctor280(AT)msn.com
It was articles like this that I was hunting for on the web when I was considering purchasing a Delorean and I think that this would help all those out there that are considering purchasing one.
Regards, Robert Starling Vin#5252
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:35:51 -0600 From: "Daniel McGauley" <hawkeye(AT)creativeworlds.com> Subject: RE: DML: FYI: DeLorean Mentioning
Right at the very beginning of the superbowl, they had about a 10 minute intro-skit where two kids were playing with a weird looking time machine. One of the kids got in and said, "Hey! Just like the DeLorean." Not much, but it made my wife and I scream.
- -Daniel
> -----Original Message----- > From: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com [mailto:dmcnews(AT)world.std.com]On Behalf Of > Joe Capasso > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 1999 3:27 PM > To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Subject: Re: DML: FYI: DeLorean Mentioning > > > At what point in the Superbowl was the DeLorean mentioned? > > Joe > capasso(AT)cyberenet.net
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 01:30:09 -0700 From: mike atkinson <mikeatk(AT)concentric.net> Subject: DML: Workshop or Parts Manual
Does anyone have a workshop or parts manual they would like to sell. I could use either one.
Thanks
Mike Atkinson
mikeatk(AT)concentric.net VIN 16232
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 09:20:45 -0500 From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: DML: Renting my D
I know others have done this, but I had similar questions about cost, and legal issues.
Please share what you learn!
Jack Stiefel wrote: > > I know this topic has been covered a little bit in the past, but I am = > curious as to one point. How much should I be renting My D out for on = > special occasions? > I am finding great interest in my car locally since there are only a few = > of them, and it made me ponder the thought of renting it out for = > conventions and the like ( not to be rented out to drive or anything = > like that, just for show). There are several resorts near my summer = > home and they all seem excited about having the opportunity to use it. > My mother is a lawyer and is going to draw up any papers that are = > necessary, but the cost still eludes me. > > Help!!!
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:30:14 -0500 From: Mike Substelny <msubstel(AT)lorainccc.edu> Subject: DML: Spring Break in Cleveland
Sandro J. Di Giacomo said:
> . . . we are planning to head up to Cleveland to see the > auto museum and maybe check out the KAPAC/ >Consolidated/DMC Houston Warehouse...is there > anyone in that area who might know of some other > places of interest to visit (either DeLorean or > non-DeLorean related)?
Sure, I'd be happy to give you some travel tips for Ohio, especially Cleveland.
The Crawford Auto Museum is on University Circle, on the East Side. I was there last week for a big soiree celebrating the Packard Centenial and the VIN 500 DeLorean was temporarily not on display. Perhaps it will be back out by Spring Break. Either way, the stainless 36 Ford and the Stainless Lincoln Continental should both be on display.
DeLorean Cadillac, the dealership founded by JZD's brother Charles and currently run by nephew Mark, is in Cleveland.
While in Cleveland you might enjoy the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, a NASA base with a free museum, and several other tourist type things. Perhaps the feature you would most enjoy would be all the nightlife in The Flats.
If your Spring Break is the same as mine then you might be in Cleveland on Saturday, March 20. My wife and I are throwing a big party that evening. If you (or any DMLers) will be in the area on that date consider yourselves invited. Drop me a line and I will give you directions.
As far as I know the Columbus warehouse only allows tours on special occasions. You should contact DMC Houston if you want to see it.
Please contact me by private E-mail if you want to continue this discussion.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:31:41 EST From: CCSSINC(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: DML Looking for a D
Jim,
In AutoWeek 1.25.99 there is a DMC Twin Turbo w/cats for sale $23,000.00 OB Add states automatic, lowered 2", ground effect skirts, rear and front spoiler, head lamp and taillight covers, Gray int. All up grades. 12K miles Contact Bob Weisch 630.628.8868
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 07:59:57 -0800 From: "lseiler(AT)radiance.com" <lseiler(AT)radiance.com> Subject: DML: DMC trade Mark
Hi from the Fumblefinger,
QUESTION:
Does any one know who is the current DMC Logo trade mark holder, and how to contact her/him/them?
Thanks!
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:02:38 PST From: "Robert Starling" <doc__5252(AT)hotmail.com> Subject: DML: Re: Rough running....
I dont think that this is correct. Being cold weather outside condensation will build up inside the exhaust system. This is normal for all cars. When the car is started the exhaust system heats up causing the condensation to turn into steam, white smoke. This sympton will stop as all the condensation is depleted. There are three colors of smoke that can come from the engine exhaust: WHITE: water BLUE: oil BLACK: fuel
Regards, Robert Starling Vin#5252
>Greg, >The white smoke on start up usually indicates excess un-burnt fuel >in the >combustion chamber. This can usually be corrected by a CO mixture >adjustment. This would also cause a rough running condition. You are >right >about the accumulator not being at fault.
>DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 99 10:40:31 -0800 From: Matthew Laun <splatt(AT)pobox.com> Subject: DML: FS: '81 5-speed, 37k miles, immaculate condition.
My uncle is looking for a buyer for his '81 5-speed (VIN#2344). It has about 37,000 miles. He lives in Bullhead City, AZ. The car is immaculate and runs great. He's asking $19,500. If you're interested drop me an email.
- ---------------------------------------------- splatt(AT)pobox.com
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:01:43 -0500 From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1(AT)eclipse.net> Subject: DML: A/C condenser (radiator) needed...
I need to replace my A/C condenser (radiator). Anyone know or an = aluminum aftermarket replacement or have a new one they are willing to = part with. Or any other ideas or solutions? Please e-mail me directly. = Thank you. ---Dan
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:06:34 -0600 From: Jeff Wiltzius <wiltzius(AT)doit.wisc.edu> Subject: DML: DashMat offered...
Hello all,
Was wondering- someone was offering a black dash mat for $25 or so a while back and I foolishly misplaced the email. If that person (or anyone else) has an extra dash mat cut to fit in a Delorean I'd be very interested.
Thanks, Jeff VIN#6145
- -------------------------- Jeff Wiltzius DoIT HelpDesk UW-Madison
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:23:10 -0700 From: scottmueller(AT)zebra.net (Scott Mueller) Subject: DML: Re: DMC trade Mark
Contact Steve Wynne, DMC Houston. Steve owns the Logo and Name.
Scott Mueller
Mobile, AL
1981/002981 DOA-5031 DMCNEWS
Contact me about the "Deep South DeLorean Owners Club" www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/aaanothe.htm
Remember April 3, 1999 - Camillia Classic Car Show in Mobile Alabama May 2, 1999 - Blount British Car Show, Townsend TN
- -----Original Message----- From: lseiler(AT)radiance.com <lseiler(AT)radiance.com> To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com <dmcnews(AT)world.std.com> Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 1:50 PM Subject: DML: DMC trade Mark
>Hi from the Fumblefinger, > >QUESTION: > > Does any one know who is the current DMC Logo trade mark holder, and how >to contact her/him/them? > > >Thanks!
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:18:08 EST From: Jdsjlv(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: Serious Brake Pull
I have owned my D for almost five years now and have a problem that no one can figure out. If anyone has had this problem or knows anything about this problem or any ideas on how to correct it, I would be interested in what they have to say. This is the situation: When I apply my brakes, my D pulls to the right. Though my steering wheel is at dead center, the car drifts. I had my alignment checked by Rob Gradys alignment shop and they corrected the alignment. I hoped that by properly aligning the car, my brake pull would vanish. It didn't. Shortly after that, I brought my D back to Rob for other work (prior to the alignment, Rob did a complete brake job, front and rear, along with new rotors, rebuilt calipers, master cylinder, etc..) I explained my situation to Rob and he decided to check the calipers to see it they were hanging. He found no problems, but decided to rebuild the calipers again. This didn't help. He then decided to check the brake lines. The passenger side line had collapsed! Both driver and passenger side lines were replaced (for continuity). This seemed to help, but it still pulled. After having my D lowered, Rob had it realigned. This didn't help, it still pulled. About 6,000 miles after the lowering, I brought it back to Rob. We had the car aligned again, since the car settled on its new springs and shocks. It still pulls. The alignment shop gave Rob all of my stats on the alignment. Rob went over them with me and he determined that my frame geometry is off. He mentioned something about having a frame pull done, but was VERY hesitant about offering that as a fix. Does anyone know what I can do to correct my problem? It can be very dangerous in a panic stop, which I have had first hand experience in, countless times! I understand that a "crown" in the road can cause some pull, but am sure that my situation is beyond road irregularities. Rob is almost 100% sure that my D hasn't been in an accident, so the frame isn't out of alignment from that. My D is an early '81, built in May, VIN 001292. Is it possible that the early frames were built improperly? Tire pressure is maintained at 25 front, 30 rear and I have the Yokohama AVS Intermediate tires (proper size). If anyone can help, PLEASE respond or e-mail me at jdsjlv(AT)aol.com Thanks in advance!
Joshua Schwartz Trumbull, CT 001292
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:51:49 -0500 From: "Sean Howley" <tsuyoi(AT)mindspring.com> Subject: DML: Fw: TIRES
<Yokohama has just produced a new batch of 235V60-15 in their AVS Intermidiate tires...Order them right away they will not last and who knows when they will produce another batch.>
I called around and found out that the 195s are readily accessible, but the 235s are *currently* in production in Japan. Delivery (as I have ordered a set) is scheduled in 4 to 10 weeks as they will be shipped - literally by boat - to the U.S. and then trucked to your local distributor. They did not inform me of the production quantity, but if you do plan on getting a set in the near future, you really might want to put your name on the list as probably many many people already have.
Sean Howley VIN# 2345
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 99 18:12:16 -0000 From: James Espey <espey(AT)dmcnews.com> Subject: DML: John DeLorean scammed?
Anyone read or know any more about this?
http://www.boston.com/dailynews/wirehtml/188_lr/Former_auto_executive_loses
__150_00.htm
James Espey #10570
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 99 18:31:54 -0000 From: James Espey <espey(AT)dmcnews.com> Subject: DML: More interesting info about the original DMC
http://www.utexas.edu/students/iig/archive/aprn/96/August22/22delo.html
Conspiracy theories abound...
James
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:13:06 EST From: JCox4001(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: Goodyear GT II
I was wondering if anyone has tried the Goodyear GT II tires on their DeLorean. They can be special ordered from Wal-Mart, and the only drawback is that the rear tires have raised white letters, and the front tires do no not, however, the tread pattern is the same in either direction, therefore, the rear tires could be mounted with the white letters to the inside. The price is sure right. Any thoughts?
Jeff
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:35:43 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Goodyear GT II
Jeff, Don't even bother, from day one Goodyear tires have never been the performance choice for the DeLorean. BTW check out yesterday's post from Sean Howley about the Yokahama's. Do your DeLorean and yourself a favor and get these tires
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:43:26 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Serious Brake Pull
Joshua, Have you tried reversing the two front tires.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:49:10 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: DashMat offered...
Jeff, I believe a new DashMat for the "D" is under $50. you might want to spend a few more bucks for a fresh, clean, new matt.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:00:45 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: DML: Looking for a D
Marc, Our data base indicates that approximately 4% of the total DeLorean population are equipped with twin turbos.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:50:18 EST From: WtrResQ(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: '81 delorean/5Kmiles
ok, here is another Delorean i just found in the paper for sale in the San Francisco area(CA). '81 5 speed w/ 5K miles. its in Los Gatos, at a dealer. ask for Cliff Mohr....he seems real helpful. price...$16,980. get it while its there. i have not seen the car, but if you have questions that i might be able to answer, i would be glad to help out another owner/future owner.
james "STAINLS"
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 01:02:11 -0500 From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1(AT)eclipse.net> Subject: DML: RE: Serious Brake Pull
This might be a stupid question, but did you look at your steering rack? =
If that is fine, it might be possible that one of the stock metal brake = lines is plugged up a little, and more pressure is going to one caliper = than the other. That might cause it to pull to one side. If one caliper = is grabbing more than the other, that would cause drift under braking.=20 It could also be that something is loose in the wheel rotation = mechanism. If there is too much play on one side, it could possibly = cause drift under braking. I would check the bearings and joints in the = front end for evenness (is that a word?). I would also check all of the = front suspension composents for tighness and possible uneven wear.=20 Also, check if one shock is bad. If one is bad, it could make that side = "sink" under braking and cause drift. Anyway, these are just my thoughts. Can't hurt, right? Good luck to = you,and please let me know if this helps you any. ---Dan
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 01:35:16 -0500 From: Paul Gress <pgress(AT)pb.net> Subject: Re: DML: Serious Brake Pull
I've had similar problems, but don't know if this will help you. In the past I've put BF Goodrich Comp TA tires on all four wheels. This caused my car to be very sensitive to road changes and sometimes pulled the wheel from my hands. Adjusting the alignment for more toe-in helped. It appears these tires were much stickier to the ground and the alignment had to be changed to correct this. Since then, I've change these tires now to BF Goodrich Radial TA's (the newest series just released) and my steering is now back to normal confirming my suspicions. By the way, these tires are only SR rated, these are the only ones that will fit.
Another thing that could cause pulling is if the frame is twisting under load from stopping. You could look for hidden cracks or excessive rust weakening the frame. You will know for sure if your windshield cracks for no reason.
Paul Gress Vin 10193
Jdsjlv(AT)aol.com wrote:
> I have owned my D for almost five years now and have a problem that no > one can > figure out. If anyone has had this problem or knows anything about this > problem or any ideas on how to correct it, I would be interested in what > they > have to say. > This is the situation: > When I apply my brakes, my D pulls to the right. Though my steering wheel > is > at dead center, the car drifts. I had my alignment checked by Rob Gradys > alignment shop and they corrected the alignment. I hoped that by properly > aligning the car, my brake pull would vanish. It didn't. Shortly after (SNIP)
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 23:03:19 -0800 From: "lseiler(AT)radiance.com" <lseiler(AT)radiance.com> Subject: Re: DML: Goodyear GT II
At 08:13 PM 2/3/99 EST, you wrote: >I was wondering if anyone has tried the Goodyear GT II tires on their >DeLorean. They can be special ordered from Wal-Mart, and the only >drawback is >that the rear tires have raised white letters, and the front tires do no >not, >however, the tread pattern is the same in either direction, therefore, the >rear tires could be mounted with the white letters to the inside. The >price >is sure right. Any thoughts? > >Jeff
reply:
Yes I have a set and they are just great!
no problems what so ever,
Handle great in wet and dry conditions.
Lee
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:34:46 +1100 From: Matthew and Anna Faith <mafaith(AT)idx.com.au> Subject: DML: expo's
all,
i believe there a number of show's in 2000. i recall seeing something about one in cleveland. am i correct? any info at this stage?
matty
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 00:31:30 -0800 From: "lseiler(AT)radiance.com" <lseiler(AT)radiance.com> Subject: DML: lost e-mail
Hi every one,
In attempting to contact DML members interested in the remaining Limited edition kits and confirming edition ownership I received a bunch of e-mail bounces.
all the below address were cut and pasted from the original e-mails to me. all have been returned or refused several times, which leaves me no way to contact them. If you are one of these people please accept this back door way of replying. If you see some error in your e-mail please send me a correction.
If you know who any of these people are and you have a better e-mail address please contact me by private e-mail.
If you see your e-mail and it is correct: check the title to see why I was contacting you.
ownership conformation list.
returned mail: User unknown
RFC822; john(AT)compusnet RFC822; jritz(AT)plexus.com dswingle(AT)enteract.com Delorean502(AT)exite.com gus(AT)nino.clamsouth.com
Waiting list and ownership list: if you are waiting to hear from me and your e-mail is listed below, I don't seem to be able to get e-mail to you?
If your address is correct I am not sure just what to do next? you may want to contact your server and find out why they are refusing your mail?
>>> RCPT To:<corkum(AT)technologist.com> <<< 553 <corkum(AT)technologist.com>... No such user 550 <corkum(AT)technologist.com>... User unknown 550 <robertbrady(AT)earthlink>... Host unknown (Name server: earthlink: host not found) 550 <pgress(AT)p>... Host unknown (Name server: p: host not found) 550 <swiantek(AT)samewave>... Host unknown (Name server: samewave: host not found) 550 <stever(AT)rtswireless>... Host unknown (Name server: rtswireless: host not found) 550 <mbslaw(AT)webtv>... Host unknown (Name server: webtv: host not found) <bfudge(AT)sprynet.com>... Deferred: Connection refused by sprynet.com. 550 <gaffy(AT)eisa.net>... Host unknown (Name server: eisa.net: host not found) 451 <magriese(AT)us.ibm.com>... reply: read error from smtp5.ny.us.ibm.com. <magriese(AT)us.ibm.com>... Deferred: Connection refused by smtp7.ny.us.ibm.com. 550 <msullivan(AT)fyi.toshiba>... Host unknown (Name server: fyi.toshiba: host not found) 550 <buster(AT)yoda.fdt>... Host unknown (Name server: yoda.fdt: host not found) 550 <martin.is(AT)connect-2.co>... Host unknown (Name server: connect-2.co: host not found) 550 <gvincentallen(AT)usa>... Host unknown (Name server: usa: host not found) 550 <nolan(AT)kersur>... Host unknown (Name server: kersur: host not found) 550 <afn01333(AT)freenet.ufl.edu>... Host unknown (Name server: freenet.ufl.edu: host not found) <gus(AT)nino.clamsouth.com>... Deferred: Operation timed out with nino.clamsouth.com. 550 <ratfink(AT)erols>... Host unknown (Name server: erols: host not found)
Lee
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:17:41 -0600 From: "Duke" <at88mph(AT)mobis.com> Subject: DML: Re: DashMat offered...
Jeff,
Go to www.dashmat.com That's where I purchased mine and it was specifically for the DeLorean. I believe it was about $25 to $30 and fits PERFECTLY without using any of the vercro fasteners.
Hope this helps,
Duke
- -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Wiltzius <wiltzius(AT)doit.wisc.edu> To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com <dmcnews(AT)world.std.com> Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 6:43 PM Subject: DML: DashMat offered...
>Hello all, > >Was wondering- someone was offering a black dash mat for $25 or so a >while back and I foolishly misplaced the email. If that person (or >anyone else) has an extra dash mat cut to fit in a Delorean I'd be >very interested. > >Thanks, >Jeff >VIN#6145
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 10:37:58 -0600 From: "Duke" <at88mph(AT)mobis.com> Subject: DML: Re: Serious Brake Pull
Joshua,
I had the EXACT same problem. Mine would pull to the left constantly. I could let go of the wheel and it would start to drift and if I hit the brake it was worse. My car hasn't been in an accident so I had it checked out like you did (brake lines, tires, ect.) Finally I took it to a EXCELLENT body shop and they said the frame was off geomerty and they pulled it straight and I haven't had a problem since. I can now hit (slam) on the brakes and it will not sway to either side (even without my hand on the steering wheel) It cost me about $200 but was well worth it.
Hope this helps,
Duke
- -----Original Message----- From: Jdsjlv(AT)aol.com <Jdsjlv(AT)aol.com> To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com <dmcnews(AT)world.std.com> Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 7:18 PM Subject: DML: Serious Brake Pull
> Rob went over them with me and he determined that my frame geometry >is off. He mentioned something about having a frame pull done, but was >VERY >hesitant about offering that as a fix. Does anyone know what I can do to >correct my problem? It can be very dangerous in a panic stop, which I >have had >first hand experience in, countless times! I understand that a "crown" in >the >road can cause some pull, but am sure that my situation is beyond road >irregularities
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 14:40:29 MST From: "Adam Michael" <amichael10(AT)hotmail.com> Subject: Re: DML: Looking for a D
My dad owns the exact car you described, and he has asked me to tell you he'd let it go for $25,000. It is an early '81 (gas flap, VIN#1428) with black leather interior, 5-speed tranny, lowered 2" to factory specs, and twin turbos. It is nearly perfect with only 45,000 original miles. Please e-mail me if you are interested. Pictures of this car can be seen on my website at: http://members.tripod.com/~DeLoreanDMC/index.html
Adam Michael, adammichael(AT)hotmail.com
P.S.: He is only willing to sell our DeLorean in hopes that we can find a nice '83 for sale, so the price is pretty firm.
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:02:16 -0600 From: "Duke" <at88mph(AT)mobis.com> Subject: DML: Auto Trans Computer Rebuild successful!!!
When I first started looking into rebuilding the computer governor, alot = of people wanted me to keep them posted and let them know the results. = Well the first rebuild (on mine) is complete and, so far, a complete = success. We've removed the 2 boards from the governor housing and = mounted them in the engine compartment so not to worry with as much heat = that is generated from the transmission. After all testing is done, we = will go back in and make the new box (that holds the 2 boards) fit = behind the drivers side cubby hole. It will be detachable so, if repair = is needed, it can be easily removed. Another feature we will add is to = add LED's to the box so you can tell if the governor is acting properly. = What I need now is a guinea pig. If someone has just a bad = transmission computer govenor (meaning no problems with the transmission = itself) please contact me. I would like to rebuild another unit to make = sure everything works fine. The problem I had with mine is it would go = from 3rd to 2nd but the problems had just started and I immediately = removed the governor and repaired it. I'm looking for one that is in = worse shape than mine was. If anyone is interested, please email me.
Thanks in advance,
Duke www.geocities.com/motorcity/8952/delorean.html
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