Sunday, February 7 1999 Volume 03 : Number 478
In this issue:
DML: Researching upgrades
Re: DML: Renting my D
DML: Eagle GT II
Re: DML: '81 delorean/5Kmiles
DML: 97DeLorean Update
Re: DML: Researching upgrades
DML: Selling my DeLorean
DML: Re: Researching upgrades
DML: Memphis n May
DML: exhaust geometry
DML: black interior
DML: Cams..
Re: DML: Eagle GT II
DML: RE: 97DeLorean Update
DML: De Lorean in Print
DML: My next project (was Auto Trans Computer Rebuild successful!)
DML: 81 DMC in Los Gatos, CA
DML: A few questions....
DML: Re: A few questions....
DML: Re: Giugiaro plate (was: De Lorean in Print)
Re: DML: Re: Researching upgrades
DML: DMC Location
DML: Re: DMC Location
Re: DML: Re: Giugiaro plate (was: De Lorean in Print)
DML: Re: Eagle GT II
DML: Re: exhaust geometry
DML: Re: A few questions....
DML: Re: black interior
Re: DML: black interior
Re: DML: Reminder Minnesota meeting....
DML: More photos
DML: Re: License Plate
Re: DML: Re: exhaust geometry
RE: DML: Re: Eagle GT II
DML: leak :-(
DML: Re: leak
DML: Doors on Johnny Lightning DeLorean
Re: DML: leak :-(
DML: RE: Re: License Plate
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:57:23 -0800 From: "Doug Olson (Exchange)" <dougo(AT)Exchange.Microsoft.com> Subject: DML: Researching upgrades
I'm currently considering purchasing a DeLorean and have a couple questions about cars with low mileage.
For car with < 5000 miles, does it make sense to perform the popular updates such as cooling system, coolant tank, alternator, battery, etc..? Or does the fact the current parts have low hours make it less necessary to replace?
If a low mileage car hasn't been started for 2+ years (sitting in garage), should I be concerned about engine problems that are a result of the engine not having been run on a regular basis? When does fuel contamination become an issue?
What sort of cost would I be looking at to replace the door struts on a DeLorean?
I've read everything I could find on the web about DeLorean maintenance, but couldn't find answers to these questions. Thanks for any information you can provide.
- -DougO
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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 22:49:49 -0500 From: Rick Barranco <toccata(AT)magicnet.net> Subject: Re: DML: Renting my D
Marc A Levy wrote: > > I know others have done this, but I had similar questions about cost, > and legal issues. > > Please share what you learn! > > Jack Stiefel wrote: > > > > I know this topic has been covered a little bit in the past, but I am = > > curious as to one point. How much should I be renting My D out for on = > > special occasions? > > I am finding great interest in my car locally since there are only a few = > > of them, and it made me ponder the thought of renting it out for = > > conventions and the like ( not to be rented out to drive or anything = > > like that, just for show). There are several resorts near my summer = > > home and they all seem excited about having the opportunity to use it. > > My mother is a lawyer and is going to draw up any papers that are = > > necessary, but the cost still eludes me. > > > > Help!!! > > Send postings to "dmcnews(AT)world.std.com" > Before posting, search the archives! www.dmcnews.com/search.html > Thank you!
Marc,
There really is no set price for something like this. It really depends on what it would be used for and if it is an integral part of the event (ie: Back to the future party etc.). I'm An Entertainment Production Manager at Walt Disney World for Conventions & Special Events at Epcot, and in the past I have used vehicles for our Events such as parades, enterances & Exits or reveals. Depending on whether we need Many vehicles or just one, dictates the amount that we would spend. Generally speaking if I subcontract someone with there vehicle for use in an event, I would be looking at spending $200 to $500 depending on how long they would be needed. Sorry to ramble, I hope this helps...... Rick Barranco Vin#3268 "TOCCATA"
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:14:08 -0600 From: Jayson Tobias <tobias(AT)midusa.net> Subject: DML: Eagle GT II
Interesting thread. I work for a Goodyear dealer, and we go through a ton of GT II's, receiving only positive comments. Joe, why do you not recommend the tire? I agree, it's not exactly an ultra-high performance tire, but it is pretty solid all-around with exceptional wear. With a T rating, it'll safely handle those higher speeds.(up to 118mph) Then again, maybe I'm bias. It's hard to find a set of 4 in the proper size these days. It was also said that Goodyear was not the choice from day one, but NCT's were stock. I also have a Delorean mention. I saw the Wedding Singer again, and the Delorean makes a 10 sec appearance. The rich groom of one of the main characters (Drew Barrymore) was driving one. It's a pretty funny movie set in 1985. Also, if you're looking for a little mood music for your D', check out the Soundtracks Vol. 1 and 2.
Later, Jayson Tobias
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 03:06:50 EST From: WtrResQ(AT)aol.com Subject: Re: DML: '81 delorean/5Kmiles
oops...the number for the dealer w/ the 81 "D" is 408/358-7070. ask for cliff mohr.
james
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 07:51:23 +0400 From: Bob Brandys <oehcs(AT)flash.net> Subject: DML: 97DeLorean Update
The 97=99 DeLorean was at both the Challenge of Champions and World of Wheels in Chicago at the end of January. The car drew large crowds and had TV coverage on 5 Channels (one WGN had the smoke coming out of the rear end.) It won first place in its class at both shows.
There were lots of questions about the availability and prices of DeLoreans. There still are people who will buy this car.
Dyno testing of this car is scheduled for Jan 13, 1999. We might even bring a stock DeLorean to run a side by side comparison. Results will be published.=20
Dr. Bob
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 09:37:02 -0500 From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: DML: Researching upgrades
ALL of your questions have been answered in the archives. Here are some quick answers, but I suggest you check www.dmcnews.com/search.html for more details.
"Doug Olson (Exchange)" wrote: > > I'm currently considering purchasing a DeLorean and have a couple > questions > about cars with low mileage. > > For car with < 5000 miles, does it make sense to perform the popular > updates > such as cooling system, coolant tank, alternator, battery, etc..? Or does > the fact the current parts have low hours make it less necessary to > replace?
That depends on you. There are a few safety and electrical upgrades that you should definitely have, but "upgrade" items can usually wait. I still have my plastic coolant bottle, and drive my car about 2K miles a year with no problems. (Now that I said that, I am sure it will crack!)
> > If a low mileage car hasn't been started for 2+ years (sitting in garage), > should I be concerned about engine problems that are a result of the > engine > not having been run on a regular basis? When does fuel contamination > become > an issue?
YES! Do not start a car that has been stored improperly until the fuel system has been cleaned out. Doing so can cause expensive damage!
> > What sort of cost would I be looking at to replace the door struts on a > DeLorean?
This is the least of your worries! but you can check www.pjgrady.com
> I've read everything I could find on the web about DeLorean maintenance, > but > couldn't find answers to these questions. Thanks for any information you > can provide.
Everything, except www.dmcnews.com/search.html!! :)
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 09:44:45 +0000 From: Albert Siegel <siegel(AT)bellsouth.net> Subject: DML: Selling my DeLorean
I am selling my early 81. vin#002009, black leather interior, automatic transmition, gas flap in hood, 53k miles, factory stereo, near perfect other than the crack on the dash. Perfect stainless body, runs perfect, used every weekend.
I am selling so that I may buy a white 5-speed DeLorean. I will consider a trade.
I am looking for a white (will consider other color), 5-speed, any year, under 50K miles, would like twin turbo but not needed, must not have radio antena on front fender. I may trade for a stainless DeLorean, but it must be 5-speed.
Albert Siegel
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:31:16 -0600 From: "Duke" <at88mph(AT)mobis.com> Subject: DML: Re: Researching upgrades
For car with < 5000 miles, does it make sense to perform the popular >updates such as cooling system, coolant tank, alternator, battery, etc..? Or does >the fact the current parts have low hours make it less necessary to >replace?
Yes. I know that cost is usually an issue and that some of these 'updates' may be costly, but eventually these items give out so you might as well go ahead and replace them now. Especially the stock alternator.
>If a low mileage car hasn't been started for 2+ years (sitting in garage), >should I be concerned about engine problems that are a result of the >engine >not having been run on a regular basis? When does fuel contamination >become >an issue?
You would definitely want to flush out the fuel system before attempting to start the car. This seems to be the biggest problems with DeLoreans that sit for a period of time.
> >What sort of cost would I be looking at to replace the door struts on a >DeLorean?
They usually cost around $65 to $70 from the usual parts suppliers. You can price & purchase parts (AT) www.usadmc.com
Hope this helps,
Duke www.geocities.com/motorcity/8952/delorean.html
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Date: 05 Feb 1999 08:42:08 -0500 From: "E. Brandon" <ebrandon(AT)ford.com> Subject: DML: Memphis n May
TO:DMCNEWS(AT)WORLD.STD.COM
Jeff, funny you should ask about the Goodyear GT II. I just ordered some Monday and I'm going to put them on tomorrow (2/6/99). There is another Delorean owner in Nashville that has these tires. He has no complaints. Also I got the tires for $335.72. About Memphis in May, I've been a few times and had a blast! I'm also a barbecue freak. My "D" hasn't moved in about 10 years. I just recently took possession of the car from my dad. I'm going this weekend to start on a long project, I've been very lucky to have fellow "D" owners in Nashville help me out in a big way. The car is going to DMC Joe around the end of this month for some major work, but should be as Willie Nelson would say "on the road again" soon. Hopefully by the begining of May the car will be ready. I would bet money that the other Delorean owners in Nashville would love to go. They're just a crazy (if not more) about these cars than I am. KEEP US POSTED!Vin#02378
Regards, Kirk Brandon Internal Control Office 540 A (EBRANDON(AT)FORD.COM)-Ext.56992
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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 11:40:58 -0600 From: "John T. Streckfuss" <jtspring(AT)flash.net> Subject: DML: exhaust geometry
Hey DMC JOE! A few years ago someone (Fred Lockhart, I think) had available sets of performance camshafts for Ds. I have just finished a set of cylinder heads that have had the exhaust ports enlarged, radiused, and polished. Before I install the heads, I would like to add a little bit of lift to the exhaust geometry. Any ideas?
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:21:03 -0800 From: DJ LaForge <dj(AT)lgusd.k12.ca.us> Subject: DML: black interior
Hi! Does anyone know where I can see a photo of the black interior of the "D"? Mine is grey as are all of the pictures in the dealer brochures, Stainless Steel Illusion, and all of the other books I have seen. I've never seen a "D" with a black interior and would really like to. Thanks!
- -D.J. LaForge
VIN 07135
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:48:24 -0600 From: "Jameel Ahed" <ahed(AT)uiuc.edu> Subject: DML: Cams..
Dear DML,
About the performance cams... 1) What exactly does this do to improve
the engines performance? 2) Since the PRV is a largely produced engine,
why
can't I find any performance cams? 3) What other modifications are needed
when you change cams?
Jameel
- -----Original Message----- From: John T. Streckfuss <jtspring(AT)flash.net> To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com <dmcnews(AT)world.std.com> Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 11:55 AM Subject: DML: exhaust geometry
>Hey DMC JOE! A few years ago someone (Fred Lockhart, I think) had >available sets of performance camshafts for Ds. I have just finished a >set of cylinder heads that have had the exhaust ports enlarged, >radiused, and polished. Before I install the heads, I would like to add >a little bit of lift to the exhaust geometry. Any ideas? >
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 11:01:45 -0800 From: "lseiler(AT)radiance.com" <lseiler(AT)radiance.com> Subject: Re: DML: Eagle GT II
At 10:14 PM 2/4/99 -0600, you wrote: >Interesting thread. I work for a Goodyear dealer, and we go through a >ton >of GT II's, receiving only positive comments. Joe, why do you not >recommend the tire? I agree, it's not exactly an ultra-high performance >tire, but it is pretty solid all-around with exceptional wear. With a T >rating, it'll safely handle those higher speeds.(up to 118mph) Then >again, >maybe I'm bias. It's hard to find a set of 4 in the proper size these >days. It was also said that Goodyear was not the choice from day one, >but >NCT's were stock.
Hi Jason The Hocky mask Tobias,
As I posted recently, I have the Good year tires in the correct size and the correct tread pattern, and inflated per mfg/De Lorean specifications. I could not disagree with joe more. I have run my tires way over rated speed, and on dirt, cement, asphalt and even beach sand doing a Thomas Crown impression!
I found no problems with the tire, it is a great and quite affordable all round tire. I really dislike flip reply that dismiss DML members who do their best to offer one another their best and usually honest thoughts and information on parts and other De Lorean related information.
I love driving in the Northern Californian wine countries winding two lane black top roads. My favorite game is passing a 911 and leading them on a marry chase to the next watering hole. Many have had the expensive V rated rubber, but they still ended up 2nd. I am no Yance Tsuchiama by any stretch, that aside I have yet to have either front or back end break away on a tight wet turn at 50MPH running Goodyears.
If the Goodyear NTC was the OEM tire of choice, I find flippantly passing off the brand less than reasonable.
Lee
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:08:38 -0500 From: "Yocom, Shannon" <syocom(AT)mitchellco.com> Subject: DML: RE: 97DeLorean Update
Yeah, and I'm one of them! But if everyone knew that they are not in the "exotic" price rage there may not be one available when I can afford to purchase one. So don't tell everyone, OK! (wink, wink) Thanks
Shannon VIN# (Not Yet! . . . or if above, Not Yet?)
> ---------- > From: Bob Brandys > Reply To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Sent: Thursday, February 4, 1999 11:51 PM > To: dmcnews-digest(AT)world.std.com > Subject: DML: 97DeLorean Update > <snip> > There still are people who will buy this car. > <snip> > Dr. Bob
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:58:31 -0500 From: Aldo.Buono(AT)phila.gov Subject: DML: De Lorean in Print
Two items of interest.
1. The promotional brochure of The Yankee Candle Car Museum of South
Deerfield, Massachusetts, pictures a 1981 De Lorean on the front
fold
along with a 1951 Jaguar XK 120 and a 1963 Amphicar. Good company.
The museum houses an 80 car showroom. Cars change regularly.
Call ahead to determine if the De Lorean is on exhibit,
413-665-2020.
2. Giorgetto Giugiaro is the famous industrial designer from
Italdesign who designed the De Lorean. Next to John De Lorean, his
name is one of the personages who is most frequently associated with
the De Lorean. In the February, 1999, issue of Madison magazine,
you
will find a cameo article on the life of Giorgetto Giugiaro. You
will
learn that his design career extended well beyond automobiles.
While we are on the subject of Giugiaro, does anyone have for sale
the
Giugiaro plate that was affixed on 1982 models of the De Lorean???
Can anyone send me a photocopy of that plate??????
Remember, Eastern Regional Run 9 will occur on May 21-23, 1999, at
the
Inn of the Six Mountains, Killington, Vermont. A full weekend of
events is planned including product faire, road rally, tech talk.
More details soon from De Loreans of New England.
Aldo Buono, President
De Lorean Midatlantic
VIN 1440
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:21:55 -0600 From: "Duke" <at88mph(AT)mobis.com> Subject: DML: My next project (was Auto Trans Computer Rebuild successful!)
Thanks to everyone for all of the positive feedback. Here is my next = project. I've noticed alot of people having problems with the engine = compartment light and I was able to replace mine while still using the = existing housing. However, as all owners know, the light isn't = sufficent enough to see everything (anything!) at night. A while back, = I owned a '82 280ZX and its engine compartment light would detach and = had enough wire to reach anywhere in the engine compartment. I figured = this would be a good idea for the DeLorean in case ya ever forget your = flashlight. If anyone is interested please let me know.
Thanks,
Duke www.geocities.com/motorcity/8952/delorean.html
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:05:32 -0800 From: DJ LaForge <dj(AT)lgusd.k12.ca.us> Subject: DML: 81 DMC in Los Gatos, CA
Hi All...
I work around the corner from the Los Gatos Auto Mall in Los Gatos, CA which has the 1981 D mentioned earlier so I went by at lunch and checked it out.
It is an October 81 build, VIN # 05480. The odometer reads 5,884.8 It's a 5 speed, grey interior, has lines in hood but no gas flap. The antenna is in the rear, but it looks like the power antenna was replaced with a non retracting black mast. The car has the LCD clock next to the dash light dimmer and has a Pioneer CD player in place of the original radio. The dealer wasn't sure if they had the original deck or not.
Overall, the car is very clean and runs great. No scratches or dents in the stainless, although there was some sort of blemish on the driver's rear fender.
Based on my limited experience, I'd say this car is a good deal at the $16,900 they are asking. Especially based on the area it is in... everything's over priced around here.
The DeLorean is still being detailed so it is not out on the lot yet, but will be in a day or two. If you're interested, call LG Auto Mall at (408) 358-7070 and ask for Don Panno.
- -D.J. LaForge
VIN 07135
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 99 17:05:10 EST From: L Sandel <34NPJUB(AT)CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Subject: DML: A few questions....
Does anybody know how one goes about removing the black plastic faschia pieces on the rear quarter panels (the one between the rear and door window glass)? I searched the backissues to no avail... I could just mask off the areas around and paint them on car, but I don't want paint to get in back of the pieces.
Also, the back of my engine cover is cracked, presumably from somebody trying to force the cover down with the latch in place. I was thinking about epoxying the crack, and epoxying a 1-1.5 foot thin metal bar along the inside of the cover (painted black, of course) to offer additional support. Are there any better recommended repairs for this? The crack is in the middle of the cover, below the latch thingy, and only the bottom lip of the cover is cracked.
Along the questions of performance, has anybody installed a lighter flywheel in a 5-speed? I found a company on the web that sells them. There address is:
http://www.muellerfabricators.com/applications.htm
Any thoughts? Luke
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:47:08 -0600 From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: A few questions....
>Along the questions of performance, has anybody installed a lighter >flywheel >in a 5-speed? I found a company on the web that sells them. There >address is:
>Any thoughts? >Luke
I gave it some thought when I installed the centerforce clutch but with the PRV engine being an odd firing engine, the inherent unbalance might become worse with a lighter flywheel.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:54:48 -0600 From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Giugiaro plate (was: De Lorean in Print)
> While we are on the subject of Giugiaro, does anyone have for sale >the > Giugiaro plate that was affixed on 1982 models of the De Lorean???
These were aftermarket. No DeLoreans came from the factory with them. Don Steger at the DeLorean Motor Center in Garden Grove, Ca. used to carry them. Maybe he still has a few.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:03:27 EST From: Msstrygrl(AT)aol.com Subject: Re: DML: Re: Researching upgrades
Doug,
If you come on this list and ask: Should I buy stuff for my Delorean the answer is going to be a resounding *YES* from many corners. Keep in mind there are people here selling things and also promoting their favorite D parts sources and mechanics. I'm also a newcomer here - just bought an '81 D with almost all of it's original parts - and my opinion is: if it ain't broke, and you're not rich, don't fix it! (though there are some things you might want to check like your trailing arm bolts). And if it 'is' broke, there are several different sources through which you can get replacements. Don't believe anyone here who tries to convince you that only one person (in New Jersey) has it for a fair price.
Have fun with your new D!
Lisa
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:36:41 EST From: DMCKitty(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: DMC Location
does anyone know if the DeLorean in the Indy Motor Speedway Muesum is still on display? If anyone does I need a response a.s.a.p.
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:08:39 -0600 From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: DMC Location
>does anyone know if the DeLorean in the Indy Motor Speedway Muesum is >still on display? If anyone does I need a response a.s.a.p.
We stopped there last June on the way to the DeLorean event in Cincinnati and there was no DeLorean. All the cars there have a racing background.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:47:28 -0500 (EST) From: DJS912(AT)webtv.net (Danny Smith) Subject: Re: DML: Re: Giugiaro plate (was: De Lorean in Print)
I bought a Giugiaro insignia plate several years ago from a Jeep AMC dealer after seeing it as an original plate on one of their car's front fenders (might have been the Eagle Premier) Dan
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:40:09 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Eagle GT II
Jayson, The reason I said that the Goodyear's were not recommended is due to the fact that until recently most of their tires did not perform well compared to some other brands. The original NCT's were terrible. Recently I have heard some positive comments, so maybe the newer models are improved. My "D" has over 250K miles and over the years it has been fitted with several brands and types. As you know there are very few choices left so it's good to hear that the Goodyear's are a good alternative. Thanks for the info. on the sound track.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
- ---------- > From: Jayson Tobias <tobias(AT)midusa.net> > To: 'dmcnews(AT)world.std.com' > Subject: DML: Eagle GT II > Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 11:14 PM > > Interesting thread. I work for a Goodyear dealer, and we go through a > ton > of GT II's, receiving only positive comments. Joe, why do you not > recommend the tire? I agree, it's not exactly an ultra-high performance > tire, but it is pretty solid all-around with exceptional wear. With a T > rating, it'll safely handle those higher speeds.(up to 118mph) Then > again, > maybe I'm bias. It's hard to find a set of 4 in the proper size these > days. It was also said that Goodyear was not the choice from day one, > but > NCT's were stock. (SNIP)
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:04:57 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: exhaust geometry
John, Sorry to say I don't have any suggestions. I did however pull up this previous post on this subject, maybe it will shed some light on your project. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - - ---------------------------------- POST FROM 12/4/98 "Simon Lees-Milne of the DeLorean Owners Club UK had his car modified for greater performance, conforming to "what would have been" the Euro-spec DeLorean. We discussed what he'd had done before, but I was not in possession of all the facts at the time, and hope to redress the balance now. The reason I have this information is that I am now officially the club Internet correspondent, and Simon asked if I'd forward any interesting information available on the Internet. Well, I looked through my trash folder and recovered the dmcnews digests back to no. 339, sent them to Simon, and he rang me to let me know of the detail on his car, which I posted information about a while back, but did not tell the whole story. Simon's car (an auto) officially produces 167bhp (AT) 5600rpm in the rear wheels. This is with the following modifications:
1) Fitting of a free flowing exhaust comprising 3 separate manifolds on each side and combined into one 2" pipe, in turn pushing through a transverse free-flowing muffler (that only just comes within UK noise specs!). 2) No Catalytic converter or Lambda sensor 3) No air flow damper box 4) Adjustment of the fuel flow through the injector regulator, speeding it up such that he now gets an 85% through flow (15% returned to tank) as opposed to the 60% stock.
There are now about 12 "British" D's with this conversion, and all easily red-line. Simon would be happy to take questions on this conversion which is done by a firm in Nuneaton. He can be contacted by phone or fax on +44 1866 853294
Cheers, Martin" - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - - ------------------------------ The information contained in this above post sounds OK but I have my doubts about steps # 2, 3, & 4. Hope this sheds some light on your question.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 19:34:24 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: A few questions....
Luke, The quarter panel must be completely removed in order to remove the black fiberglass louver. If you just need to refinish it do what we do, just mask the adjoining stainless and spray with two coats of Krylon Semi-Flat Black. Don't worry about getting over spray behind the vent, there is nothing there to hurt. To correct your cracked rear louver you can purchase a reinforcement brace from one of the DeLorean parts suppliers. Do not substitute any flywheel other than the factory unit.
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 19:45:41 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: black interior
D.J. The black interior is illustrated in the dealer brochures, a picture of this page is in "Stainless Steel Illusion" at the bottom of page 98.
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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 19:18:52 -0600 From: DON GOWLER <dongowler(AT)mediaone.net> Subject: Re: DML: black interior
So where are you DJ? I have an all black interior for you to look at if your near by.
Regards, The Silver Fox (with the black interior) Chicago N/W suburbs
PS, James, why don't we ask e-mailers that are looking for cars etc. and/or selling cars etc. to give their location when they sign their e-mails.
DJ LaForge wrote:
> Hi! Does anyone know where I can see a photo of the black interior of the > "D"? Mine is grey as are all of the pictures in the dealer brochures, > Stainless Steel Illusion, and all of the other books I have seen. I've > never seen a "D" with a black interior and would really like to. Thanks! > > -D.J. LaForge > > VIN 07135
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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:47:57 EST From: KKoncelik(AT)aol.com Subject: Re: DML: Reminder Minnesota meeting....
Hi just a reminder I will be up there the week of the 15th you got any time I'm also going to meet Bruce Benson one evening
Ken
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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 17:06:03 +1100 From: "R. Haslewood" <delorean(AT)zip.com.au> Subject: DML: More photos
Hey people,
I've added more photos of our RHD DeLorean to my website if you're interested in seeing them. I must say they're better quality than the previous ones, and there's even a couple there of our car on the back of a tow truck after the clutch gave out - which was a pretty embarrassing experience :-(
Just go to the "Our DeLorean" section of http://www.zip.com.au/~delorean/delorean/ to see them.
R. Haslewood, Sydney Australia http://www.zip.com.au/~delorean/
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 12:34:39 EST From: DeLorean31(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: Re: License Plate
Does anyone know where I may be able to purchase one of the original or reproduction dealer plates that came on the D like you see in the brouchures. It has DMC in big letters and printed in small letters underneath it says Delorean Motor Company. Thanks in advance
Gary
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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 18:13:53 +0000 From: "Martin Gutkowski (UK)" <martin.is(AT)connect-2.co.uk> Subject: Re: DML: Re: exhaust geometry
Joe and all. The full description of Simon's exhaust modifications can be found at http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk and follow the link to the technical page.
Best Wishes,
Martin
> The information contained in this above post sounds OK but I have my > doubts > about steps # 2, 3, & 4. Hope this sheds some light on your question. > > DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 14:12:32 -0600 (CST) From: Scott Mueller <scottmueller(AT)zebra.net> Subject: RE: DML: Re: Eagle GT II
I currently have the Yokohama AVS tires on my DeLorean and can honestly say that they are fantastic. I took my original NCT's off and replaced them with the Yoko's. When the NCT's were new, I was unable to break them loose while cornering on dry pavement. The original NCT's handeled very well, remember, this was in 1981 when they were brand new.
I bought the Yoko's based on the comments that I read in this newsletter. I am glad that there is an alternate tire available, in fact, Duke runs Road Huggers and has told me that he is pleased with them. Goodyear, Yokohama or whatever, if it means that you are out driving your car, then you bought the best tire.
I like my Yokohama's, but I may try something else when the Yoko's are no longer servicable.
As far as having Z rated tires, I prefer getting long tread life to being able to drive at 150 MPH. Be realistic about this, where can you drive the car that fast, and not then only be able to share the story with the judge or your cellmate. ;-)
Scott Mueller
>> Subject: DML: Eagle GT II >> Date: Thursday, February 04, 1999 11:14 PM >> >> Interesting thread. I work for a Goodyear dealer, and we go through a >> ton >> of GT II's, receiving only positive comments. Joe, why do you not >> recommend the tire? I agree, it's not exactly an ultra-high performance >> tire, but it is pretty solid all-around with exceptional wear. With a T >> rating, it'll safely handle those higher speeds.(up to 118mph) Then >> again, >> maybe I'm bias. It's hard to find a set of 4 in the proper size these >> days. It was also said that Goodyear was not the choice from day one, >> but >> NCT's were stock. >(SNIP)
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 16:15:42 -0800 From: "D.J. LaForge" <dj(AT)woz.org> Subject: DML: leak :-(
Hello all...
I did try searching the archives for this but there were so many matches I couldn't find one that seemd appropriate to my problem.
I have a leak at the top of my passenger side door. The water comes in at the far right side just in front of the sun visor. I thought I could fix this by replacing the door seals (with new ones from P.J. Grady) but no such luck. Any suggestions on how to track down and fix this problem? Thanks!
- -D.J. LaForge
VIN 07135 San Jose, CA
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:11:41 -0500 From: "Sean Howley" <tsuyoi(AT)mindspring.com> Subject: DML: Re: leak
D.J.,
I had somthing similar to this happen to me once. It was just after I had the head liners replaced. What it ended up being was the head liner fabric was slightly outside the seal and would "sponge" any water that it could. As it absorbed the water, the water would travel under the seal (by way of the head liner) and disperse on the other side - in the passenger's lap. I ended up simply cutting the excess material away and everything was back to neat!
Sean Howley VIN#2345
<I have a leak at the top of my passenger side door. The water comes in at the far right side just in front of the sun visor. I thought I could fix this by replacing the door seals (with new ones from P.J. Grady) but no such luck.>
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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 20:21:25 PST From: "De Lorean" <jzdmc(AT)hotmail.com> Subject: DML: Doors on Johnny Lightning DeLorean
Just one question, on some Johnny Lightning cars the hood opens, do the doors, or hood open on the Johnny Lighting BTTF DeLorean? Thanks, Chad
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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 22:59:59 -0800 From: "lseiler(AT)radiance.com" <lseiler(AT)radiance.com> Subject: Re: DML: leak :-(
At 04:15 PM 2/6/99 -0800, you wrote: >Hello all... > >I did try searching the archives for this but there were so many matches I >couldn't find one that seemd appropriate to my problem. > >I have a leak at the top of my passenger side door. The water comes in at >the far right side just in front of the sun visor. I thought I could fix >this by replacing the door seals (with new ones from P.J. Grady) but no >such luck. Any suggestions on how to track down and fix this problem? >Thanks! > > >-D.J. LaForge > >VIN 07135 >San Jose, CA > reply:
It looks like the seal on your windshield is the problem if the leak is at the visor.
Lee
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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:43:08 -0800 From: "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm(AT)skymail.csus.edu> Subject: DML: RE: Re: License Plate
On the 18th of January, I posted the following message:
I've come into the possesion of a DMC license plate that I've only seen on the photos of the late prototype cars. It's made of white card stock that has been printed in black and silver. There's a perf cut along the bottom, indicating that it must have been attached to something else at one time. Does anyone know any more about the history of this item? It can be seen on the cars in the tri-fold brochures, the big showroom brochures, and in SSI on pages 97 and 119. I have a picture ofit posted on my web site under 'Special Documents'(see URL in my SIG). Any ideas??
The only reply I got was from one person who wanted to buy it (and no, it's not for sale). So the question still stands. Does anyone know any of the history of this item?
> -----Original Message----- > From: DeLorean31(AT)aol.com [mailto:DeLorean31(AT)aol.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 06, 1999 9:35 AM > To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Subject: DML: Re: License Plate > > > Does anyone know where I may be able to purchase one of the > original or > reproduction dealer plates that came on the D like you see in the > brouchures. > It has DMC in big letters and printed in small letters > underneath it says > Delorean Motor Company. Thanks in advance > > Gary
================================================================ Ken Montgomery VIN #10911 Work : (916) 278-7646 Sacramento, CA 'OUTTIME' Home : (916) 944-3252 Founder, Northern California DeLorean Motor Club 'NCDMC' Please visit my website at: http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean01.htm kenm(AT)csus.edu ================================================================
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