Wednesday, February 10 1999 Volume 03 : Number 480
In this issue:
DML: '81 DMC for sale- PRICE REDUCED
Re: DML: Dealership Sign
Re: DML: Can anyone identify this D?
Re: DML: Dealership Sign
DML: Rough Running revisited...
DML: RE: RE: Researching Upgrades
Re: DML: BTTF VIN
re: DML: DMC/Aerovette
DML: Re: Fuel Accumulator And Speedo Cable
DML: Can anyone identify this D?
DML: Re: Dash-Mat Opinions
Re: DML: DMC/Aerovette
DML: Re: Researching Upgrades
DML: Re: AC vacuum hose to engine ?
DML: DeLorean's (minor) Impact on the American Minivan
Re: DML: RE: Can anyone identify this D?
Re: DML: Dealership Sign
Re: DML: BTTF VIN
Re: DML: BTTF VIN
Re: DML: web sites
DML: Re: Re: Dash-Mat Opinions
Re: DML: '81 DMC for sale- PRICE REDUCED
DML: re: AC Vacuum Hose to Engine
DML: Re: Rough Running revisited...
RE: DML: BTTF VIN
DML: DML commercialization
Re: DML: Rough Running revisited...
DML: horn change
DML: Delorean Commercials?
DML: 81 for sale
DML: Re: Dash-Mat Opinions
DML: Re: AC Vacuum Hose to Engine
DML: Re: DML commercialization
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 07:45:41 -0600 From: "Tim Hansen" <thansen@pensys.com> Subject: DML: '81 DMC for sale- PRICE REDUCED
Come on, guys. I posted this several months ago and nobody responded. I've lowered my asking price on this list to $12,000, because I need to sell it and it's been sitting for several months (now needs a new tire) and I can't afford to fix it- needs an exhaust manifold gasket (a $300 job). It's an '81, grey interior, auto trans. perfect body, good mechanicals, ok interior (needs driver's seat leather, center headliner, and dash pod)
Please give me a call on this. Make me an offer- I want it sold within the week here.
Tim Hansen 414-443-8952 thansen@pensys.com
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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 09:14:21 -0500 From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: DML: Dealership Sign
I dont have a exact answer to your question, but I can tell you what I know.
I usually see the large double sided signs sell for around $600. I purchased one for a bit less, but the one I have is in pretty bad shape. IMHO, I did not get such a good deal. I have heard of signs sold for $600-$1000 that are in perfect condition.
My sign is sitting in my garage waiting for me to find someone who is willing to help restore it, or get up enough courage to try and fix the dings in the SS myself.
I think the large ones are more common than the small ones. I have only heard of one small one in the hands of the collectors, and a few dozen of the large ones.
Gullwing99@aol.com wrote: > > Hello fellow D Lovers, > Wanted to ask a couple questions about dealership signs. > I puchased one a couple years ago from a guy in North Carolina, and it > was one > of the big double sided signs. I paid 2k for it, was this a good > price?,,,what > is it worth, and is it more rare than the single sided signs. I know that > were > about 345 dealers and I assume that the double sided signs were for bigger > dealerships. Would it be a safe guess that there was less of the larger > ones. > And does anyone have an educated guess as to how many they think are left. > I've heard stories of dealers being so mad that they trashed the signs in > the > garbage after the factory closed. > take care > J.B.Vincent > vin: 16709 > lic: DMC-12
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 10:27:35 +0000 From: "Ian T. A. Foster" <ian@netvigator.com> Subject: Re: DML: Can anyone identify this D?
Adam,
This is a British registered car. The 'Y' in the registration identifies it as being registered in 1982 or '83 I think.
Are the other respondents sure there was a difference in tail-lights for the British (right hand drive) and/or European (left hand drive) models? I can't imagine they would have bothered changing this item given that the main market by far was the good old USofA, and the numbers for the home and European markets was extremely small. Maybe Martin in Britain or Rob in N.Ireland can shed some light on this and the cars whereabouts?
Cheers, IAN (HongKong)
Adam Michael wrote: > > I was recently looking through a book I recieved for Christmas titled > "The World Encyclopedia of Cars" when I stumbled across an article on > the DeLorean. One of the pictures in the article really baffled me. It > shows the rear of a DeLorean, only the tail lights are split into 3 > vertical sections (kind of like a Mustang) and the antenna is mounted in > the center of the roof. I uploaded the picture so you guys could help me > identify where this car came from and what it is. Is it a prototype that > I've never seen before or what? Well, the picture is at this address: > http://members.tripod.com/~DeLoreanDMC/weirddmc.jpg I would really like > to know anything about this car and where it is located now. Thanks in > advance! > > Adam Michael
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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 09:33:38 -0600 From: DON GOWLER <dongowler@mediaone.net> Subject: Re: DML: Dealership Sign
Gullwing99@aol.com (J.B.Vincent) wrote:
> Hello fellow D Lovers, > Wanted to ask a couple questions about dealership signs. > I puchased one a couple years ago from a guy in North Carolina, and it > was one of the big double sided signs. I paid 2k for it, was this a good > price?,,,
J.B. in my opinion you got a good deal on that sign. I too have one that I got out of Dallas several years ago. I love that sign and anyone that sees it in my garage gets real excited about it - you just can't put a value on an item like that.
It might be interesting though to find out how many double sided signs are out there. Who on the DML has one or knows of someone that does?
Regards, The Silver Fox
VIN #'s 01149, 10788
Chicago
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 10:10:24 -0600 From: Greg Guillot <gguillot@mccno.com> Subject: DML: Rough Running revisited...
Thanks to DMC Joe for pointing me in the right direction regarding my no- idling/white smoke problem - it was indeed the CO2 adjustment. However, when I went to see how the screw was adjusted, I found that it was GONE. Some dufus had apparently removed the original screw completely. I am pretty sure it is gone, since I removed the Mixture Control Unit/Air Venturi from the car and could not find the screw anywhere - God, I hope the screw did not fall down into the engine at some point - I am just imagining a blob of melted brass on top of one of my pistons. Anyway, to make matters worse, the screw is not available by itself. The parts manual only lists the entire Mixture Control Unit (#102789) as available. Well, I find it a bit difficult to fork over $500 for a whole new unit when all I need is the screw. Anybody have any ideas? I may just scour the junk yard for a similar unit and get the screw that way. If anyone has an extra CO2 adjustment screw laying around that they would like to sell, please let me know.
Thanks, Greg Guillot VIN 2926 ************************************************ Morial Convention Center - New Orleans Greg Guillot, Director of Info Systems & Services 900 Convention Center Blvd,New Orleans, LA 70130 Phone (504) 582-3116,Fax (504) 582-3104 Email gguillot@mccno.com ************************************************
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:33:21 -0500 From: Rob Hook <rob_hook@pop.net> Subject: DML: RE: RE: Researching Upgrades
I tend to agree. I've been on this list since it started (one of the first 10 to sign-up) and, as far as I can remember, there have been virtually no ads or people pushing others to their product. Now, there have been things for sale here by their manufacturer, of course, but they were usually not parts or repair related and were also sold at 0 profit. Lee's kit for example. DMC Joe does, once in a while, tell people to simply bring their cars to him but that's rare. Besides, he's so helpful otherwise I think we can forgive that.
If I remember correctly, Lisa is a fairly new member. Give it some time Lisa. You'll see. I don't think I would have bought a DeLorean if it wasn't for this list.
- --Rob Hook
- -----Original Message----- From: mike atkinson [SMTP:mikeatk@concentric.net] Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 3:53 AM To: DMCNews Subject: DML: RE: Researching Upgrades
"If you come on this list and ask: Should I buy stuff for my Delorean the answer is going to be a resounding *YES* from many corners. Keep in mind there are people here selling things and also promoting their favorite D parts sources and mechanics."
"Don't believe anyone here who tries to convince you that only one person (in New Jersey) has it for a fair price."
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:39:36 EST From: GullwingD@aol.com Subject: Re: DML: BTTF VIN
You are right. The DeLorean in Universal Studios Florida is a mock up that was built in the early nineties after the BttF ride opened. Only Five Actual DeLoreans were used in the Trilogy and 3 original DMC time machines can be seen at the Hollywood theme park. Steven Spielberg has the first DeLorean time machine built ( Plutonium chamber version) in back of his Amblim company building parked in display. the fifth oroginal D' from the movie is located in a car museum in Argentina. For more information on the BttF DeLorean e-mail GullwingD@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:42:03 -0600 From: Allan Nelson <abnelson@waterousco.com> Subject: re: DML: DMC/Aerovette
Tom,
The XP-882 Aerovette is on display at the National Corvette Museum in Bowling Green, KY. The museum is across the street from the Corvette Assembly Plant. The car can be seen in this photo taken inside the museum:
http://CorvetteMuseum.com/virtual_tour/tour_images/salon_02_lg.jpg
Allan Nelson
Tom wrote:
> My son just bought me a model kit of a 70's Chevy Corvette concept car called an "Aerovette". The car had "bi-fold gull-wing doors" , a mid engine and the prototype at one point had a Wankel engine in it before being replaced by a small blcok Chevy V-8 . The car had deformable plastic nose and tail section as well as being painted sterling silver.
hmmmmm.....Now where have I seen a silver gullwing car with rubber(ish) nose and tail section as well as having the engine in the rear???........So, does anyone know if JZD had seen this prior to his leaving GM and how much of the Delorean was based on this car (if any). The car does have a Delorean type look to it. Wasn't JZD one the the first to push for the Wankel engine while at GM?
Since it was built I assume it must be somewhere, anyone know of it's existence? you can see pictures of this car (with doors open!!) at http://www.idavette.net/cars/76aero.jpg1
Tom #5732
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:54:10 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Fuel Accumulator And Speedo Cable
Curtis, We know of no easy way to test the accumulator without it being installed in the fuel system.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 17:36:00 -0000 From: "James" <jamie.mac@pop3.road-runner.net> Subject: DML: Can anyone identify this D?
The D is indeed a UK RHD model, the UK plate shows that=20 it is a 'Y' reg which means it was registered between August 1981 and August 1982.
What I would do to own a RHD Delorean!!
James
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Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 22:48:19 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Dash-Mat Opinions
Tom, Here is some additional information about the Dash-Mat. You can order the dash cover in any one of many colors, they have several shades of gray. The reason the Dash-Mat is of a lighter materiel is due to the fact that it is porous to allow the sound from the speakers to come through without being muffled. BTW you can also order a mat without the glove box cut, and even have them add an embroiled name or initials.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:00:55 -0800 From: "Dave Price" <davep2@clipper.net> Subject: Re: DML: DMC/Aerovette
>>My son just bought me a model kit of a 70's Chevy Corvette concept car >>called an "Aerovette". The car had "bi-fold gull-wing doors" , a mid >>engine and the prototype at one point had a Wankel engine in it before >>being replaced by a small blcok Chevy V-8 . The car had deformable plastic >>nose and tail section as well as being painted sterling silver. >
Actually the aerovette had been in design stages for quite some time and it was DeLorean himself that stifled the project initially... He later started it up again when the Pantera was sold through the Ford channels... You can read the whole scoop at this link:
http://www.archive.vintageweb.net/prototyp/xp-story.txt
- - Dave
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:20:11 -0600 From: magriese@us.ibm.com Subject: DML: Re: Researching Upgrades
Lisa wrote
>If you come on this list and ask: Should I buy stuff for my Delorean the answer is going to be a resounding *YES* from many corners. Keep in mind there are people here selling things and also promoting their favorite D parts sources and mechanics.
Don't believe anyone here who tries to convince you that only one person (in New Jersey) has it for a fair price.<
There are some upgrades that are the result of factory issued recalls - one for the throttle cable, one for the front roll bar attachment points, and one for the inertia switch. The throttle cable recall is a kit that protects the the throttle cable end at the throttle spool from water ingress. This can cause the cable to bind resulting in the loss of throttle control. The roll bar recall strengthens the attachment points of the roll bar to the front frame members. Without the strengthening, the frame flexes under load which changes the front suspension geometry, which adversly affects handling. The inertia switch recall replaces the inertia switch. The old switch would not deactivate the fuel pump circuit in the event of an accident.
Other "upgrades" depend on your ability to tolerate being stranded.
The plastic coolant reservoir bottle fractures along the mold separation lines when run under high temperatures. This bottle is typically replaced with an aluminum reservoir.
The original radiator was made with plastic endcaps. Over time, the seals on the endcaps degrade, causing leaks. Normal replacement is a new radiator with metal endcaps.
The original alternators on DeLoreans were somewhat underpowered for the demads of the electrical system.
And on and on.
Part of the lure of a list like the DML is the ability to tap the collective experience of the participants. Specific recommendations on parts sources or repair centers is again based on experience. You can choose to take advantage of this experience or not - it is up to you.
Michael A. Griese Storage Software Development Manager IBM Storage Systems Division Rochester, MN 55901
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 13:56:08 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: AC vacuum hose to engine ?
John, The line you are describing is the vacuum line to the Hot Water Valve item No. 2 at 7/1/3 in the parts manual.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 13:58:57 -0500 From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@lorainccc.edu> Subject: DML: DeLorean's (minor) Impact on the American Minivan
Any DMLers who saw my old Toyota minion at any of the Columbus warehouse tours knows that I am due for a replacement. While researching used mini vans, I came across this web site, which contains a product review of the original Pontiac Trans Sport:
http://www.cars.com/carsapp/national/?szc=44118&srv=review&act=search&mkid= 40&mdid=385&yr=1990
It says the Trans Sport started as a GM concept vehicle. Originally, instead of a sliding "van" style side door, the plastic bodied Trans Sport was to have a large gullwing door on the passenger side. The writer, Chicago Tribune's Jim Mateja, wanted to find out what happened to the gull wing door. His research netted several theories, including:
"Some executives said . . . the gull- wings were doomed because consumers associated them with the infamous sports car from ex-GM executive John Z. DeLorean, better known around the GM building as 'who?' "
Maybe Mateja's story is a bit exaggerated, but it's amusing.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 21:56:36 +0000 From: "Martin Gutkowski (UK)" <martin.is@connect-2.co.uk> Subject: Re: DML: RE: Can anyone identify this D?
Yes, this is a prime example of the right-hand drive cars. You can see that it is an RHD if you look closely. The UK number plate helps! (FYI, "Y" is 1983). Vin 12179, one of the other RHD cars with the same tail-light clusters (incidentally taken from a trailer! They are different to accomodate our mandatory fog lights)) of which there are pictures on my site, had the antenna in the windscreen.
...and it's crap. I'm guessing the owner put it in the roof because having it on the left (in the dummy vent) as you guys would, is a bit of a liability when you drive on the left and hedges tend to snap aerials off!
I will pass on the registration number to Dave Howarth and see if he knows its whereabouts.
Best Wishes,
Martin DeLorean Owners Club UK http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk
Gerald Deutsch wrote:
> I believe that this car is what you call the "European" version of the > DeLorean. ---Dan
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 17:04:45 EST From: Dmc17168@aol.com Subject: Re: DML: Dealership Sign
I just received a one sided dealership sign today. It came from a sign shop in New Orleans from a local dealer. I purchased it thru eBay on 12/31/98 for $785. I don't know how many are out there but the number can't be too large. It's well worth the price as it is well lighted and will look great in my game room . It is 11'4" long , 3' tall and 1' deep. The face is stainless with white lettering and the rest of the is flat black. Tom Griepenburg Aug. 83 VIN 17168
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 18:37:18 EST From: DocBosch@aol.com Subject: Re: DML: BTTF VIN
<<Only Five <<Actual <<DeLoreans were used in the Trilogy
Only five? I have a BTTF book that says that seven Deloreans were used in the movie. Am I right, or are the other two De's that were mentioned just full scale models or something?
Bosch<===
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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 19:49:30 -0500 From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: DML: BTTF VIN
I heard one of them is in Planet Hollywood in Florida.. I have not verified this!
GullwingD@aol.com wrote: > > You are right. The DeLorean in Universal Studios Florida is a mock up > that > was built in the early nineties after the BttF ride opened. Only Five > Actual > DeLoreans were used in the Trilogy and 3 original DMC time machines can be > seen at the Hollywood theme park. Steven Spielberg has the first DeLorean > time machine built ( Plutonium chamber version) in back of his Amblim > company > building parked in display. the fifth > oroginal D' from the movie is located in a car museum in Argentina. For > more > information on the BttF DeLorean e-mail GullwingD@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 16:50:37 PST From: "John Dore" <dmcjohn@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: DML: web sites
Dear Jack, Sorry I took pictures from your site and put them on mine. I should have checked with you first. About not replying sooner - I've been working late for the past few days and hadn't checked my mail. Then I came home tonight and found your mail, along with a mail to the DML and an entry in my Guestbook. I was going to go to bed but jaysus I'm glad I actually checked my mail tonight or you'd have written a book about what an asshole I must be. I've taken the pics off now.
If you check back to my site in about 2 weeks it'll be completely redesigned anyway, because I'll be filling it with pics I took at a DeLorean Meeting I organised here in Ireland last week. This will be on national television here in Ireland on March 9th. The purpose of my webpage is not to take credit for someone else's work or pictures, but simply to make the Delorean look as good as possible, and to provide a place where DeLorean enthuiasts could go if they needed a specific pic of a DeLorean e.g. a certain angle or color.
As we both know, it's the worlds' coolest car, so I spend most of my spare time promoting it; on my website, when I talk to people, and the TV show I organised. You may have read that I also interviewed John Z. DeLorean at his home last August. There is plenty of material on my site that is my own - all the writing and a lot of the pics are mine. As my website was not created for personal gratification, I don't mind people taking my personal images or writing off my website and putting it on theirs, as long as their website is not giving out about the DeLorean, or the man himself - John Z. DeLorean. In fact I have seen some sites that are little clones of my site! The site authors have simply cut huge chunks of text from my page and pasted it onto theirs, along with some of my pics! They never give me credit for this. I never ask these people to take them down because like me they are simply promoting the worlds greatest car in the best way that they can. Only good can come of this...
Sorry if I offended you or anyone else, Best Wishes, John Dore, Ireland. http://homepage.tinet.ie/~johndore
>From: "Blade Runner" <stiefel@bladerunnertackle.com> >To: <dmcnews@world.std.com> >Subject: DML: web sites >Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:10:48 -0500 >Reply-To: dmcnews@world.std.com > >I am not sure if this bothers anyone else on here, but I recently found = >a DeLorean site containing numerous pictures taken from other sites = >online. I really don't care except he has taken some pictures I took = >myself at a special shoot at Universal Studios and placed on my site. = >If anyone knows him, please let him know, or would like to see if their = >pics are on the site go to: = >http://homepage.tinet.ie/~johndore/index.html . I sent him mail but = >have not received anything back.=20
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 18:57:29 -0600 From: "C. Longwisch" <CL1954@midwest.net> Subject: DML: Re: Re: Dash-Mat Opinions
I recently wanted to order a Dash-Mat and put the DMC-12 signature on it. They refused! I tried just DMC, DMC 1982, and my VIN #10663 all refused. Does anyone know why?
Cecil Longwisch DMC1982 VIN# 10663
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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 19:20:49 -0600 From: DON GOWLER <dongowler@mediaone.net> Subject: Re: DML: '81 DMC for sale- PRICE REDUCED
Tim, it would help the list if they knew where you existed/live. I know they could check the area code but come on guys, you all know that no one should buy a DeLorean without having a chance to "Kick The Tires". I had someone call me yesterday looking to buy one and I directed him towards the DML but I don't expect too many buyers to run all over the country looking at possibilities or buying one 'Sight and Unseen'.
Regards, The Silver Fox VIN #'s 01149 & 10788 Chicago
Tim Hansen wrote:
> Come on, guys. I posted this several months ago and nobody responded. > I've lowered my asking price on this list to $12,000, because I need to > sell it > Please give me a call on this. Make me an offer- I want it sold within > the week here. > > Tim Hansen > 414-443-8952 > thansen@pensys.com
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 99 20:20:42 -0600 From: David Swingle <dswingle@enteract.com> Subject: DML: re: AC Vacuum Hose to Engine
ON Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:50:14 +0100 j.vanderWerff@ind.tno.nl WROTE
>Subject: DML: AC vacuum hose to engine ? > >While doing some minor repairs in the engine bay I found the end of a hose >that had been seald off with an old nail by somebody who owned the car >earlier. It is a small plastik like hose about 4 mm in diameter that >enters >the engine-bay through the left rear pontoon at about halfway between the >vacuum-tank and the firewall. I traced the hose back to the other end a >found that it is connected to the orange marked hose comming from >connector >nr.3 on the AC selector-switch and running to the right front wheel-well.
This hose is used to turn off the hot water to the heater core when in the air conditioner mode. The water valve is hard to see, in your case someone probably removed the water valve because it was leaking. If it is there, it should be behind the engine just to the right of the distributor, just above the bellhousing.
If you have the parts manual, look on page 7/1/3, callout part number is #2, DMC part number 100763. This also shows up on page 7/3/0, callout item #5 is where the vacuum hose is connected to the water valve. If its missing your A/C just won't get quite as cold as it should. Everything else will work OK assuming that they hooked up the water hoses correctly.
Dave Swingle 81 VIN 5429 DOA, DMC, DMC(Midwest)
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Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:03:51 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Rough Running revisited...
Greg, Start looking around junk yards for any Volvo 260 or 760 GLE they have the same mixture control unit as the DeLorean. If you are unsuccessful call Volvo Parts Only in Atlanta at 800 351-9964. They have tons of old Volvos and may be able to help you out.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
- ---------- > > Thanks to DMC Joe for pointing me in the right direction regarding my no-
> idling/white smoke problem - it was indeed the CO2 adjustment. However, > when I went to see how the screw was adjusted, I found that it was GONE. > Some dufus had apparently removed the original screw completely. I am > pretty sure it is gone, since I removed the Mixture Control Unit/Air > Venturi > from the car and could not find the screw anywhere - God, I hope the > screw > did not fall down into the engine at some point - I am just imagining a > blob of > melted brass on top of one of my pistons. > Anyway, to make matters worse, the screw is not available by itself. The > parts manual only lists the entire Mixture Control Unit (#102789) as > available. > Well, I find it a bit difficult to fork over $500 for a whole new unit > when all I > need is the screw. Anybody have any ideas? I may just scour the junk yard
> for a similar unit and get the screw that way. > If anyone has an extra CO2 adjustment screw laying around that they would
> like to sell, please let me know. > > Thanks, > Greg Guillot > VIN 2926
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 01:21:18 -0500 From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@eclipse.net> Subject: RE: DML: BTTF VIN
It is my understanding that the car that went to Universal studios in = Florida was a car that was recently (1990's) restored by a foreign car = repair shop (mostly Jaguars) in my area (NJ). He told me about this job = the first time he saw my car. (That was a few months ago). He said that = he restored the car in his shop, and Universal paid a very high price = for the car. So, if this true, it was then definately modified long = after the trilogy since the car was bought only a few years ago. If you = are interested in researching this topic it's fullest extent, e-mail me = privately and I can give anyone the phone number of the shop and the = owner's name, and you can ask him yourself. I hope that this can help = anyone who is inerested in this topic. ---Dan Vin#5493
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Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 23:46:44 -0800 From: "lseiler@radiance.com" <lseiler@radiance.com> Subject: DML: DML commercialization
James, and the rest of the DML membership,
I have no problem with the may of us who are professionals mentioning our companies in passing or directing members to a page of a favorite De Lorean pics which are on their companies Internet site.
I strongly object to the few abusers who list http' links to their commercial sites or suggest that members go visit their Internet sits as a part of an address. This is nothing more than commercial advertising, which I thought was prohibited here on the DML. I take extreme exception to this practice when the business has nothing what ever to do with the Delorean or Delorean related subjects.
I think it is one thing for a Delorean company to offer help and services threw the DML and quite another to use what is offered as an address block to advertise totally unrelated business on the DML.
Lee
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 00:04:54 -0800 From: "lseiler@radiance.com" <lseiler@radiance.com> Subject: Re: DML: Rough Running revisited...
At 10:10 AM 2/8/99 -0600, you wrote: Snip......................
all I need is the screw. Anybody have any ideas? I may just scour the junk yard >for a similar unit and get the screw that way. >If anyone has an extra CO2 adjustment screw laying around that they would >like to sell, please let me know. ...................Snip!
Hi Greg,
This is just a speculation, which just might save you $499?
When working out the details on the Delorean Gullwing doors for my DMC-12 kits I found that I could not fine in any local hardware stores a suitable spring. I decided to turn to the Internet to see if I could find a solution. In less than one hour I found a spring maker who would make custom springs that worked exactly like the full sized torsion bars in the De Lorean door assembly.
You might try browsing the Internet for a screw manufactures for the screw you need, some one must make that screw.
Lee
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 11:34:54 -0500 From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@eclipse.net> Subject: DML: horn change
I would like to change my horn from that (stupid) turn signal local to a = standard one on the steering wheel. Before I dive head first into this = one, does anyone have any suggestions or tips on this? Thanks in = advance. ---Dan
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Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 11:26:40 -0500 From: James McBuney <jmcburne@optonline.net> Subject: DML: Delorean Commercials?
I was wondering if anyone knows of any other DeLorean commercials, other than the downloadable one on the web page. I have heard that there was a "set" of commercials promoting the car during the 81 US open. Is this true? Thanks
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:24:44 -0700 Hello all I have an 81 grey interior five speed for sale. The body is in From: bhs@inconnect.com Subject: DML: 81 for sale
pretty good shape and the motor has just under 50000 on it.She just got a major tune up,new fuel system and new struts all around just to name a few new things.this is a late model 81 vin # 6683 and has all of the updates as near as I can tell,I'm sacrificing her for only 9,999.Please e-mail me privately for any additional info.Thanks Dave S. Sender: dmcnews@world.std.com Precedence: list Reply-To: dmcnews@world.std.com
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:35:04 -0700 From: scottmueller@zebra.net (Scott Mueller) Subject: DML: Re: Dash-Mat Opinions
One reason they may have refused is that the logo is owned by Steve Wynne of DeLorean Motor Company. Steve may have something in the works with this. Give Steve a call and ask him if it is OK to have this done. Perhapes he has a dashmat with the logo on it already.
SCOTT MUELLER 1981/002981 http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/aaanothe.htm
COMING EVENTS APRIL 3, 1999 CAMELLIA CLASSIC CAR SHOW, MOBILE ALABAMA http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/CamilliaClassic.htm
APRIL 17, 1999 PENSACOLA BEACH BASH and ALL BRITISH CAR SHOW
MAY 2, 1999 11TH ANNUAL BRITISH CAR GATHERING- TOWNSEND TN http://www.warelogic.com/bbcltd/events.html
MAY 21, 1999 DELOREAN MIDATLANTIC-EASTERN REGIONAL RUN 9 http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/midatlan.htm
- -----Original Message----- From: C. Longwisch <CL1954@midwest.net> To: dmcnews@world.std.com <dmcnews@world.std.com> Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 5:27 AM Subject: DML: Re: Re: Dash-Mat Opinions
>I recently wanted to order a Dash-Mat and put the DMC-12 signature on it. >They refused! I tried just DMC, DMC 1982, and my VIN #10663 all refused. >Does anyone know why? > >Cecil Longwisch >DMC1982 >VIN# 10663
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:37:54 -0700 From: scottmueller@zebra.net (Scott Mueller) Subject: DML: Re: AC Vacuum Hose to Engine
I think that the water valve is only closed when the AC is in the max mode, that is when the cabin air is recirculated. SCOTT MUELLER 1981/002981 http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/aaanothe.htm
- -----Original Message----- From: David Swingle <dswingle@enteract.com>
> >ON >Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:50:14 +0100 >j.vanderWerff@ind.tno.nl >WROTE > >>Subject: DML: AC vacuum hose to engine ? >> >>While doing some minor repairs in the engine bay I found the end of a hose >>that had been seald off with an old nail by somebody who owned the car >>earlier. It is a small plastik like hose about 4 mm in diameter that >>enters >>the engine-bay through the left rear pontoon at about halfway between the >>vacuum-tank and the firewall. I traced the hose back to the other end a >>found that it is connected to the orange marked hose comming from >>connector >>nr.3 on the AC selector-switch and running to the right front wheel-well. > >This hose is used to turn off the hot water to the heater core when in >the air conditioner mode. The water valve is hard to see, in your case >someone probably removed the water valve because it was leaking. If it is >there, it should be behind the engine just to the right of the >distributor, just above the bellhousing. > >If you have the parts manual, look on page 7/1/3, callout part number is >#2, DMC part number 100763. This also shows up on page 7/3/0, callout >item #5 is where the vacuum hose is connected to the water valve. If its >missing your A/C just won't get quite as cold as it should. Everything >else will work OK assuming that they hooked up the water hoses correctly. > >
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Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:54:52 -0700 From: scottmueller@zebra.net (Scott Mueller) Subject: DML: Re: DML commercialization
List members, I hope that I have not offended any of the esteemed members of the list. Myself, I am including the links in my signature line as a service to the owners who are looking for shows to attend.
By doing this last fall, we had 9 DeLoreans come to Mobile for a car show. We had cars from as far away as TN and Miami FL. Also owners and cars from the Mobile area and Northern FL. I believe that most of us owners would have never met if I did not include an easy way for people to get the information.
I am only "advertising the shows, which for the most part donate any profits to charity, as a way to meet other owners and have some fun.
Steve Wynne was kind enough to come to Mobile as a draw for the show, he even gave away merchandise and answered any and all questions presented to him. I invited two other major parts and service providers but they were unable to attend because of scheduling conflicts. I paid out of my own pocket all of the expenses for the BBQ and paid for some of the goodies that were given away. Local businesses also donated to the goody bags.
I hope that I have not offended anyone with my efforts to promote my hobby.
PS: I have offered to put together and maintain a web page for any and all car show in which list members are either hosting or planning to participate in.
If members will submit the information, perhaps a photo and contact information, and I can verify the accuracy, I will add it to my site. Maybe I will find out about a show near me that I can attend.
SCOTT MUELLER 1981/002981 http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/aaanothe.htm
COMING EVENTS APRIL 3, 1999 CAMELLIA CLASSIC CAR SHOW, MOBILE ALABAMA http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/CamilliaClassic.htm
APRIL 17, 1999 PENSACOLA BEACH BASH and ALL BRITISH CAR SHOW
MAY 2, 1999 11TH ANNUAL BRITISH CAR GATHERING- TOWNSEND TN http://www.warelogic.com/bbcltd/events.html
MAY 21, 1999 DELOREAN MIDATLANTIC-EASTERN REGIONAL RUN 9 http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/midatlan.htm
- -----Original Message----- From: lseiler@radiance.com <lseiler@radiance.com> Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 5:32 AM Subject: DML: DML commercialization
>James, and the rest of the DML membership,
snip >I strongly object to the few abusers who list http' links to their >commercial sites or suggest that members go visit their Internet sits as a >part of an address. This is nothing more than commercial advertising, >which >I thought was prohibited here on the DML. I take extreme exception to this >practice when the business has nothing what ever to do with the Delorean >or >Delorean related subjects. > >Lee
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