Sunday, February 14 1999 Volume 03 : Number 481
In this issue:
DML: After Market Rims, DMC Takes 1st Place in class at World of
DML: Fuel accumulator replacement
DML: Fw: Can anyone identify this D
DML: Oil Pressure Sender/Speakers/Car Mice/Lowering
Re: DML: horn change
DML: removing fingerprints?
DML: RE; '81 DMC for sale/Price Reduced
Re: DML: removing fingerprints?
Re: DML: removing fingerprints?
DML: "Indian Wars"
DML: DML and links to sites
DML: re:AC Vacuum Hose to Engine
DML: RE: signs
Re: DML: BTTF VIN
Re: DML: AC vacuum hose to engine ?
Re: DML: BTTF VIN
DML: '81 Cheap
DML: [admin] Guest moderator 2/13 - 2/20
Re: DML: '81 Cheap
DML: Last DMC VIN
DML: Re: 81 Cheap
DML: Drycell Battries
DML: Louisianna/Mississippi owners
Re: DML: Re: 81 Cheap
DML: DMC Price Panic? Don't think so.
Re: DML: BTTF VIN
RE: DML: removing fingerprints?
DML: DeLorean Font
DML: Re: Re: 81 Cheap
Re: DML: '81 Cheap
DML: RE: Re: 81 Cheap
DML: RE: '81 Cheap
Re: DML: Re: 81 Cheap
Re: DML: DMC Price Panic? Don't think so.
DML:Manual vs Automatic
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:27:52 -0500 (EST) From: "John Brookwell" <ccssinc@earthlink.net> Subject: DML: After Market Rims, DMC Takes 1st Place in class at World of
Wheels Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:18:34 -0500 Sender: dmcnews@world.std.com Precedence: list Reply-To: dmcnews@world.std.com
My DMC has the original Goodyear NCT's on it with 400 miles on the = tires. Due to the lack of use and the non suspended storage they have = flat spots. I need these for the auto shows but driving on them is = wrought. What I am looking for are a complete set of rims and tires to = drive on. What I need is someone to tell me if this information is = correct? Front Rim 6x14 with a 55mm offset and 100mm on 4 bolt pattern. = Rear Rim 8x15 with a 95mm offset and 100mm on 4 bolt pattern. If this = information is accurate then I should be able to mount Front 6x17 with = 40mm offset 205/40 tires?? Rear 9x17 with 40mm offset and a 55mm spacer = with 235/45 tire?? Can't wait for all your replies. O yes the DMC was a = big hit at the show and the about 30,000 people seen it because I must = have 300,000 finger prints on it. Got a fast way to remove finger = prints?
John VIN#16440
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:06:01 -0500 From: "Mike Thomas" <comptrol@ici.net> Subject: DML: Fuel accumulator replacement
I replaced my fuel accumulator the other day and found that I was going = to need a new chunk of hose because the old one was falling apart. = During removal, I bent the tubing that the hose connects to. I now have = a leak. Rob Grady says the correct fix is to replace the tubing from = the fuel pump to the accumulator, which involves removing the body from = the frame. If this winds up being the only solution, I'm going to get = the car to him and let him do it.
Has anyone had this problem and solved it with a union or some fittings? = If so, I'd really appreciate any part numbers you may have. I have not = looked yet, but I figure Parker or Swagelok might have something that = works. Thanks in advance!
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:20:57 -0000 From: "James" <jamie.mac@pop3.road-runner.net> Subject: DML: Fw: Can anyone identify this D
Sorry a miscalculation =20 a Y reg is August 1982-August 1983=20
>James wrote: > >> The D is indeed a UK RHD model, the UK plate shows that >> it is a 'Y' reg which means it was registered between >> August 1981 and August 1982. >> >> What I would do to own a RHD Delorean!! >> >> James >>
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 05:07:32 EST From: Msstrygrl@aol.com Subject: DML: Oil Pressure Sender/Speakers/Car Mice/Lowering
Warning: long (check subjects above)
I got a new oil pressure sender and it seems to be working perfectly (with my Volvo oil filter)...(yes, had to do the replumbing so that I could get the big fat filter in - thank you again Chris for the picture). It's a "Filko" part number: OP109. I got it at Auto Club Parts for twenty bucks. No more pegged gauge. (though to be honest I don't know why I really need this instrument!)...(but anyway, it's nice to have working parts). Also, while I was there I got new struts for the engine hood = Strong Arm #4451 $19.99 apiece. I hope you all have an Auto Parts Club near you, I've found the prices to be consistently low there. (No I'm not a stockholder... tough I'm considering it!)
Also, found replacement speakers for my original D speakers. Getting the interior panel off the right side almost didn't happen. One of the bolts holding the seat belt on was, like, welded into the nut sleeve and it required an air gun along with some major outward prying with a large screwdriver to get it free. (see, the whole nut sleeve was spinning on its mount) But it was definitely better than the alternative which was taking the SS Panel off (or listening to Mono). Then we had to pry little shards out of the bolt threads. This seemed like an odd thing to me but it seems like every task on the car presents some WEIRD obstacle. Not that I'm complaining! We yanked out the old speakers which were literally rotting, and dropped some new Eclipse speakers (same exact oval shape) in and they sound great. In the process of doing this I discovered that my D was a home to a mouse some time back. Fortunately I'm a mouse lover (used to have one as a pet). I've had to do quite a bit of vacuuming around the wires behind the seats and yesterday I discovered that the little creature had chewed on a few (of the bazillion) wires in the back. Fortunately not completely through. Last night I had a dream that I went to get in the car and about fifty mice were inside sitting on the seats looking up at me. And I thought, Oh no? What do I do? This is just a car to me -- but a home to them!
Last weekend I lowered the car in the front. I had noticed, about a week after buying my D that the wheel wells in the front looked too high. So Saturday my boyfriend and I (meaning of course my BF did it while I watched) lowered the front three quarters of an inch and I think it looks better now. Anyway, it only took us about a half hour to do it. We took the shocks off, then got the brake lines out of the way and covered them with sheets of steel, then we (he) torched the second to the most bottom coil on the springs for about fifteen seconds apiece (it was a pretty strong torch). The car just goes plop! and it's done. Aesthetic perfection!
(I'll let you all know if my wheels fall off.)
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 07:15:33 PST From: "" <dmf_kingnothing@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: DML: horn change
>I would like to change my horn from that (stupid) turn signal local to >standard one on the steering wheel. Before I dive head first into this >one, does anyone have any suggestions or tips on this? Thanks in = >advance. ---Dan > > > Yea, don't, there are to many electrical stuff to get to the horn and too much re-wireing to wire it to the stearing wheel - -Drew
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:01:06 -0500 From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@eclipse.net> Subject: DML: removing fingerprints?
Ask and you shall receive... Try "Never Dull". In fact, you should apply = it to the entire car. It gives the car a spectacular even look. It = doesn't matter if you go with the grain or against it. Doug and Corey = both did it to their cars and they look great!!! I'd do mine, but mine's = painted... oh well... ---Dan
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:13:44 -0600 From: "Tim Hansen" <thansen@pensys.com> Subject: DML: RE; '81 DMC for sale/Price Reduced
Sorry about that (amazing- that's one of my pet peeves on the AMC-list, another mailing list I'm on for American Motors vehicles- not listing the location of vehicles for sale)
The car is located in Delavan, Wisconsin, about 50 mi. southwest of Milwaukee on I-43. If you find where Hwy. 50 and I-43 intersect, that's where Delavan is. My number at school is 414-443-8952. Because of the lr tire and rf brake problems, the car is not currently driveable, but it does start and run just fine (batt. may need a charge- it's sitting on my workbench) It's a bit loud because of the exhaust manifold gasket that needs replacement (priced the job at $200 parts, $100 labor from DMC of Houston) I'll try to get home and clean it up if anyone's interested.
Sorry, again, and I hope one of you will make me an offer on it.
Tim Hansen thansen@pensys.com
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 10:00:14 +0000 From: ausmith@pdx.oneworld.com Subject: Re: DML: removing fingerprints?
Hi , Where can we find this product. I've never heard of it.
> Try "Never Dull". In fact, you should apply = > it to the entire car. It gives the car a spectacular even look. It = > doesn't matter if you go with the grain or against it.
Chris
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:54:55 -0700 From: raddad@cmn.net Subject: Re: DML: removing fingerprints?
I think I have tried every product I have ever heard of to reduce (nothing prevents) fingerprints and then to easily remove them. Most products have some petroleum in thme and that actually makes the fingerprints worse, IMHO.
I am a radical supporter of Windex style glass cleaner. I personally think it reduces the fingerprints and makes for very easy and even touch-up.
Having said that, I have never heard of "Never Dull" and , thus, must give it a try. Who carries it?
Dick Ryan VIN 16867
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 06:46:13 +1100 From: "R. Haslewood" <delorean@zip.com.au> Subject: DML: "Indian Wars"
Hi DMLers,
I was watching my all-time favourite TV show, Miami Vice, this morning, and image my surprise when a DeLorean appeared! The episode was titled "Indian Wars", and is from the 4th Season (circa 87/88).
In the show, the scene starts with a shot from behind the DeLorean, looking down its right side, then the door opens and a drug dealer's henchman steps out (with an Uzi in hand - never leave home without one). Then, Lt. Castillo rocks up in his Lamborghini, which is part of his 'cover' as a dealer. Castillo ignores the henchman and walks over to the DeLorean as the other drug dealer opens the left-side door and gets out. The dealer and Castillo have a conversation, all the while the DeLorean can be seen in the background.
The scene lasts for just over a minute, and the DeLorean is on-screen almost the entire time. From what I can tell, the car appears to be an '81 model, w/ lines down the hood (but no gas flap).
So, check your local listings for Miami Vice - "Indian Wars". It's a good episode, and the DeLorean's presence makes it even better :-)
R. Haslewood, Sydney Australia http://www.zip.com.au/~delorean/
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:55:35 EST From: ABatt10347@aol.com Subject: DML: DML and links to sites
Fellow DMCer's, Pardon my asking but what is going on here? It has been my experiences on this list that we shared questions and answers and "other" information relating to the Delorean. In the last few months I have read flames and people complaining about links to sites. If one sees a link added at the bottom of the posting I would think that you choose to check it out or not. I know of no one who is trying to make a buck here. Only to promote the hobby. As far as promoting a repair or parts. I have in the past related my feelings about jobs or parts. This information is of use to others, if someone has done a good job on my car why not relate that. Same for parts, if you feel that you have be taken care of well, what's the problem in telling others? The help that Scott, Lee, Joe, James, as well as others have given, is what makes this hobby and DML what is! Thank you James for my two cents, I feel better now! Bruce Battles Vin 06569
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 99 21:24:35 -0600 From: David Swingle <dswingle@enteract.com> Subject: DML: re:AC Vacuum Hose to Engine
Oops - its been a while since I chased this one down. Scott is correct, vaccuum is pulled only in the AC MAX (Recirc) mode, which actuates the valve to turn off the water. At all other times hot water circulates thru the heater core.
Dave
>Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:37:54 -0700 >From: scottmueller@zebra.net (Scott Mueller) >Subject: DML: Re: AC Vacuum Hose to Engine > >I think that the water valve is only closed when the AC is in the max >mode, >that is when the cabin air is recirculated. >SCOTT MUELLER >1981/002981 >http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/aaanothe.htm > >- -----Original Message-----
>>This hose is used to turn off the hot water to the heater core when in >>the air conditioner mode. >
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:58:41 +0000 From: "darryl@techline.com" <darryl@techline.com> Subject: DML: RE: signs
I have a large two-sided dealer sign that I found brand new, never out of the box, in Shreveport, LA, years ago. As to its value, I figure I have about $200 invested in it, but during my divorce the "ex" tried to convince the judge that it was worth $5,000. Luckily, the judge didn't believe that, and it was included in my part of the settlement. I also had one of the very rare banners, which I was supposed to get but it "disappeared". My insurance company paid me $500 for that. If anyone has been offered a banner from this area, please let me know.
Darryl Tinnerstet McCleary, WA PH: 360-495-4640
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:43:29 EST From: ShadowDMC@aol.com Subject: Re: DML: BTTF VIN
In a message dated 2/9/99 8:40:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, malevy@dnrc.bell- labs.com writes:
<< I heard one of them is in Planet Hollywood in Florida.. I have not verified this! >>
Exactly what Planet Hollywood. I live in South Florida and there are 2 in the area.
Orlando Lopez #06882
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:04:50 -0500 From: Richard Strecker <dmc1219@one.net> Subject: Re: DML: AC vacuum hose to engine ?
John,
I asked that very same question about a year ago. The hose should be connected to a small vaccuum chamber located on the drivers side of the engine toward the firewall. It isn't easy to see the place that it connects to, but there is a short section of rubber tubing that the plastic hose fits into. I think that this is a part of the heater control, with the documentation that exists it is sometimes hard to tell.
Good Luck!
Richard
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:41:23 -0500 From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: DML: BTTF VIN
Did I say Florida?! I meant Hawaii!
ShadowDMC@aol.com wrote: > > Exactly what Planet Hollywood. I live in South Florida and there are 2 > in the area. >
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:40:24 EST From: WaltHobbs@aol.com Subject: DML: '81 Cheap
I've Looked at a '81 here in Lincoln RI., that is for sale for $5000 dollars. The owner seems to have lost interest and wants to get rid of it. I will tell you what I saw upon brief inspection. Bear in mind that what I know about Deloeans is what I have learned from this list. I am no expert. The car looks complete, it is stored outside in the owner's driveway. Body appears good, no dents, doors open and stay up. Automatic transmission, black leather interior that has been patched with black tape. Interior in general is well worn. Does not start. Owner states that "It ran before I started working on it." Air cleaner is missing, owner says he has it. Jack is missing, owner says he has that too. Owner says he is to busy to sell the car and has a friend trying to sell it for him. That friend is Bob Montgomery, contact him at 401-726-3469. Bob states that the car could be had for $2500-$3000. Tell him Walter sent you. I didn't buy it because it has an automatic transmission and I have to many projects started already. I would check title if you get serious about this car. I hope this car will be picked up by someone that will give it proper treatment.
Good Luck,
Walt walthobbs@aol.com (I am off list)
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:11:15 -0000 From: James Espey <espey@dmcnews.com> Subject: DML: [admin] Guest moderator 2/13 - 2/20
I will be out of town from 2/13 to 2/20 with only limited email contact during that time. Our ever-popular guest moderator, Knut Grimsrud, has once again volunteered to handle the moderation duties.
Due to scheduling conflicts, there may be no DML mail from mid-day tomorrow (Friday, 2/12) through Sunday, 2/14.
Thank you!
James Espey Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List http://www.dmcnews.com
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:38:33 -0500 (EST) From: William T Wilson <fluffy@snurgle.org> Subject: Re: DML: '81 Cheap
On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 WaltHobbs@aol.com wrote:
> I've Looked at a '81 here in Lincoln RI., that is for sale for $5000 > dollars.
Is it just me or are DeLorean prices absolutely falling through the floor?
As a future rather than current owner, I'm not unduly upset about this, but I have to admit to being either concerned or surprised. In the past month or two I've seen excellent condition cars for under $15K, driveable cars for under $10K, and now this one, good body and not far from running, for $5K and would take less. He is selling the car for what a fender would sell for not too long ago.
Has anyone else noticed this? Well, I'm sure someone else has noticed this. Does anyone have a potential explanation? :}
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:27:19 PST From: "dmc wannabe" <dmcnews@hotmail.com> Subject: DML: Last DMC VIN
Hello all, I was wondering what the V.I.N # was on the "last" Delorean "ever" built. I need the complete V.I.N number.
Thanx, The DMC wannabe <no vin yet>
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:53:19 -0500 (EST) From: Cheryl Classick <jettrink@TSO.Cin.IX.Net> Subject: DML: Re: 81 Cheap
I wonder if the prices are down because eventually there won't be any parts for the Delorean. If all the dies were destroyed, one day they have to run out.
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:48:15 -0500 From: "Frederick R. Embden" <fembden@tco.com> Subject: DML: Drycell Battries
Has anyone researched the new technology on 12v drycell car battries? I have some data on Interstates Drycell Battery, (approx $160) 800 amps cranking power @ 0 degrees. Reserve Cap. 120 min. Demensions 10" X 8" X 8' (approx) Post type dual. Weight 39.5 lbs. Warrenty first 36 months free replacement, Next 36 months, pro-rated. Has anyone member purchesed/used this type that can offer some feedback? Thanks Frederick E Vin# 005922
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:14:18 -0600 From: Stephen P Rice <stevedmc@juno.com> Subject: DML: Louisianna/Mississippi owners
I am just checking to see if there are any new local owners on the DML.
My name is Steve Rice and I am inviting everyone in AL and MS to attend the show Scott Mueller is arranging for us in may. Please send me a private email if you would like to know more about our free Delorean Organization.
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:26:31 +0000 From: ausmith@pdx.oneworld.com Subject: Re: DML: Re: 81 Cheap
Hi,
> I wonder if the prices are down because eventually there > won't be any parts for the Delorean. If all the dies were > destroyed, one day they have to run out.
Doesn't hold water. Find a part for A Ferrari Daytona Coupe.
Chris
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:10:36 -0500 From: Mike Substelny <msubstel@lorainccc.edu> Subject: DML: DMC Price Panic? Don't think so.
WaltHobbs said:
>> I've Looked at a '81 here in Lincoln RI., that is for sale for $5000 >> dollars.
William T Wilson answered:
>Is it just me or are DeLorean prices absolutely falling through the floor?
Reply: There have been DeLoreans in this price range for a long time. When I was first shopping for mine five years ago the first DeLorean I looked at was about $6,000. It needed a lot more work than I was willing to do.
I do not believe this to be a signal that DeLorean prices are falling very quickly. Considering the drop in resale value of other 18 year old cars, I think my DeLorean was a fantastic bargain. I challenge anyone to buy a $15,000 Honda or Nissan today, then see what it is worth in five years. You will wish you had bought a DeLorean instead. The DeLorean's value *might* drop by $1K (although it might also go up), while the Honda will definitely drop by $10K.
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:08:22 EST From: GullwingD@aol.com Subject: Re: DML: BTTF VIN
Remember this. Get your BttF part 2 tape and fast foward it to the part were Doc is lowering the time machine allowing marty to go from the D' to Biff's black car. As the car is lowering to the ground Notice How big the logo on the grill is! It is twice as big as the original logo. This proves that the car in that scene and in others was just a fiberglass body woth the wheels already rotated. And the close up scenes of the interior was just the center of a real DeLorean that was shakin by prop experts to create the movement of a hovering car. The front and back were cut off the car for easier movement and to get cameras closer. So answering your question......There are 5 DeLoreans and 2 prop cars. Not including the 1/5th scale DeLorean model built by ILM.
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 20:58:03 -0500 From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@eclipse.net> Subject: RE: DML: removing fingerprints?
Well... I assure you that "Never Dull" is the best thing you'll ever use = then. It is available in any auto parts store. It is a cottony wadding = that comes in a black can and is used for polishing metal. Don't worry, = it won't polish your DeLorean. It would take about 1,000 years of = constant rubbing to polish it with Never Dull. All I'm saying is you'll = live how your car looks with this product. Application is simple and = only takes about 15 seconds of rubbing to remove fingerprints. If it is = not available in your area, I guess I could give you the number of my = local auto parts store that has it and they might be able to ship it to = you. Or if they won't do it, well, I might be willing to send some to = people who want it. I will ask for no profit from this of course, if = that is the only way for it to get to DML'ers. I would rather you search = your area thoroughly first of course. So, if/when you guys do find it, = let me know what you think. I'm telling you... it's fantastic!!! ---Dan = Vin#5493
- ---------- From: raddad@cmn.net[SMTP:raddad@cmn.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 3:54 PM To: dmcnews@world.std.com Subject: Re: DML: removing fingerprints?
I think I have tried every product I have ever heard of to reduce = (nothing prevents) fingerprints and then to easily remove them. Most products = have some petroleum in thme and that actually makes the fingerprints worse, IMHO.
I am a radical supporter of Windex style glass cleaner. I personally=20 think it reduces the fingerprints and makes for very easy and even touch-up.
Having said that, I have never heard of "Never Dull" and , thus, must = give it a try. Who carries it?
Dick Ryan VIN 16867
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:09:16 -0500 From: James McBuney <jmcburne@optonline.net> Subject: DML: DeLorean Font
If anyone is interested I have a DeLorean font my brother created. Give me you e-mail and I would be happy to send it.
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:38:12 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Re: 81 Cheap
Cheryl, Actually the prices are up. DeLorean's in A-1 condition with low mileage are getting 22K and up, as the number of cars decrease and parts become scarce values will rise.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
- ---------- > From: Cheryl Classick <jettrink@TSO.Cin.IX.Net> > To: dmcnews@world.std.com > Subject: DML: Re: 81 Cheap > Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 2:53 PM > > I wonder if the prices are down because eventually there > won't be any parts for the Delorean. If all the dies were > destroyed, one day they have to run out. >
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:53:05 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: DML: '81 Cheap
William, We monitor DeLorean prices all over the world and we have seen the very low prices that have appeared on this list. These are isolated situations. Anyone who sells an A-1 DeLorean for $5K is throwing thousands out the window.
Recently I bought a Volvo for $8K below its value. The owner sold it because he heard a shutter coming from the transmission area whenever the car accelerated, he was told by his mechanic that he would be facing a transmission replacement. The problem was actually a defective drive shaft carrier bearing, replacement cost including labor was $80.
DeLoreans have a reputation that parts and service are unavailable, therefore uneducated owners dump their cars for far less than their actual value. About a year ago we had a DeLorean in for minor service. The owner had just purchased the car. When he came in to pick up the car he requested an estimate on it's value. The car had about 5500 miles and was in excellent condition, we told him we considered the value to be $22K. He than told us that he purchased the car for 12K, I jokingly said "you could go and sell this car today and make a big profit".
Guess what; several months later the same car came back with a new owner. During a discussion I inquired as to how much the new owner paid for his car, the answer was $22K. End of story.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:09:39 -0000 From: "Andy Vousden" <andyv@demon.net> Subject: DML: RE: Re: 81 Cheap
Making parts is not difficult to do with the right workshop tools. A friend of mine restores 1920's Bentleys and there are no original parts left for those or blue prints of the originals. You just have to get the measurements very precise. Find a local metal fabricators to do the job. Fair enough that is the expensive way to do it but I bet as soon as original parts run out some enterprising company will start making more if the demand is there.
cheers - -- andyv@demon.net
> -----Original Message----- > From: dmcnews@world.std.com [mailto:dmcnews@world.std.com]On Behalf Of > Cheryl Classick > Sent: 11 February 1999 19:53 > To: dmcnews@world.std.com > Subject: DML: Re: 81 Cheap > > > I wonder if the prices are down because eventually there > won't be any parts for the Delorean. If all the dies were > destroyed, one day they have to run out.
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 07:08:42 -0500 From: Cirillo Ronald A NPRI <CirilloRA@Code80.NPT.NUWC.NAVY.MIL> Subject: DML: RE: '81 Cheap
Just want everybody to know that it is already gone. I called after I got home from work (3:30) and it was already sold.
Ron
> -----Original Message----- > From: WaltHobbs@aol.com [SMTP:WaltHobbs@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 1999 11:40 AM > To: dmcnews@world.std.com > Subject: DML: '81 Cheap > > I've Looked at a '81 here in Lincoln RI., that is for sale for $5000 > dollars. (SNIP) > the car could be had for $2500-$3000. Tell him Walter sent you. > I didn't buy it because it has an automatic transmission and I have to > many > projects started already. > I would check title if you get serious about this car. > I hope this car will be picked up by someone that will give it proper > treatment. > > Good Luck, > > Walt > walthobbs@aol.com (I am off list)
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Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:12:01 -0600 From: Stephen P Rice <stevedmc@juno.com> Subject: Re: DML: Re: 81 Cheap
There are many reasons why the prices are going down.
How many people do you know of that talk about a D in their everyday life? They think the car doesn't exist so there isn't a demand for it.
Whenever I mention the D to a person I have to mention BTTF just so they can realize what type of car I am talking about.
The people that have heard of a D think it is an expensive car and they aren't interested in expensive cars that they can't afford.
The people like you and me know that the cars are affordable and aren't willing to pay high prices($20k and up)
In summary the reason why D prices aren't that high is because the demand isn't high.
If the entire public was educated on Ds and everyonewanted to buy one then the prices would be a lot higher. Lets keep things quiet until I am able to purchase my dream.
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 06:46:56 -0700 (MST) From: raddad@cmn.net Subject: Re: DML: DMC Price Panic? Don't think so.
A slightly different approach to DeLorean prices: I think they are holding very frim and actually rising a bit. Let me explain. Look carefully at the truly pristine cars. Regardless of mileage, you are talking 18K to 24K, depending upon just how fast the owner has to sell it.
At the other end of the spectrum are the dogs. These cars haven't been run for years, interior is shot, prabably have a lot of wires that have been mouse eaten, etc. We've all seen these "it was running when I parked it there in '93" cars. Great money pits. And, yes, they might often sell for less than the parts are worth individually, but that's to be expected. Try removing the fender from that $5000 car, then crating it up to send to the buyer, shipping and insuring it, etc., etc. Certainly over time you should show a profit on the parted car. In the meantime, you've got an eyesore in your backyard, neighbors complaining, and on it goes.
The DeLorean is a great driving car. That's what it was designed for and that's what I do with mine. Still, by not slacking on the maintenance, it does not depreciate in value. What more could you ask?
Dick Ryan VIN 16867
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:28:20 PST From: "Jeremy Curtis" <happy_gil75@hotmail.com> Subject: DML:Manual vs Automatic
All this discussion about the Cheap D got me wondering. Are automatics REALLY that bad? I have seen many Automatic D's go for much less than I would imagine them going for. Even if someone where to take an automatic to DMC ONE and have them completely check and rebuild it, would it still be crap? All that I have heard about auto's is bad. Is there no way to avoid problems if you have an auto D??
just curious!! Jeremy Curtis No VIN# yet!!
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