dmcnews-digest Tuesday, February 16 1999 Volume 03 : Number 482
In this issue:
DML: RE: '81 cheap
Re: DML: '81 Cheap
DML: PRV dimensions
DML: DELOREAN FONT
Re: DML: Last DMC VIN
DML: No more keys
DML: BTTF DeLoreans
Re: DML:Manual vs Automatic
DML: Two problems... any solutions?
Re: DML:Manual vs Automatic
DML: Fascia Panel question
Re: DML:Manual vs Automatic
DML: Re: DELOREAN FONT
DML: GULLWING UPDATED
DML: Re: No more keys
Re: DML: DELOREAN FONT
Re: DML: '81 Cheap
DML: Mobile Mardes Gras
Re: DML:Manual vs Automatic
DML: RE: '81 cheap
DML: Happy Chinese New Year!
DML: '81 For Sale, Decent Shape, Needs Work
Re: DML: DELOREAN FONT
Re: DML:Manual vs Automatic
DML: Re: Two problems... any solutions?
DML: BTTF DeLoreans
DML: Clutch
DML: question
DML: Want to buy a DeLorean in Europe
Re: DML: Re: DELOREAN FONT
Re: DML: BTTF VIN
DML: DeLorean Car Show
Re: DML: Re: No more keys
DML: Delray Beach Sighting
Re: DML: BTTF DeLoreans
Re: DML: BTTF DeLoreans
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:33:19 EST
From: WaltHobbs@aol.com
Subject: DML: RE: '81 cheap
Thanks to all that showed an interest in this car.
It has been sold.
Please don't call Bob any more.
Thanks again, Walt
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:03:36 -0600
From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: DML: '81 Cheap
With very nice DeLoreans going for $18-$20,000 why would anyone want to pay $8-$10,000 for a dog that requires another $12,000 to bring it into shape? That's why many lesser cars are passed up when someone is searching for a DeLorean. At the moment there are enough nice DeLoreans around so market is satisfied. This means the only option for unloading the dog is to make the price too good to pass up. It's supply and demand. There's enough $20,000 cars around for those willing to spend that amount. When there isn't enough, people will be willing to spend the money to restore the neglected ones.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:57:06 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Wilson <fluffy@snurgle.org>
Subject: DML: PRV dimensions
I found a web page which had this information on it, and now I can't. :}
Does anyone know the length/width/height and weight of the PRV engine?
Thanks. :}
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:48:27 -0500
From: James McBuney <jmcburne@optonline.net>
Subject: DML: DELOREAN FONT
Due to the many requests for the DeLorean Font, Please visit my web page at http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Shop/7682/intro.html The file can be easily downloaded. Please do not send e-mails directly to me. Thanks in advance.
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 14:16:56 EST
From: ROBLAMROCK@aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: Last DMC VIN
In a message dated 2/11/99 7:42:56 PM GMT Standard Time, dmcnews@hotmail.com writes:
> I was wondering what the V.I.N # was on the "last" Delorean "ever"
> built. I need the complete V.I.N number.
>
The last car built at the factory in Belfast was SCEDT26T8DD0020104
Robert Lamrock
Belfast
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 16:00:44 -0800
From: "lseiler@radiance.com" <lseiler@radiance.com>
Subject: DML: No more keys
To our DML Membership:
As many of you know I have been making De Lorean Logo top keys for any one who wanted them. This was just something I did in my spare time and more or less at cost. I went to the trouble of getting the bear metal blanks from the same company that produced the original De Lorean Keys. My key efforts have been any thing but a business, not $10 each.
Over the past year I have replaced many sets of keys that did not work, usually due to the local lock smith cutting the combination wrong, There have been other problems, like bounced checks, claims that the keys never showed up, and those who in spite of getting a photograph of the keys I make demanding refunds because the claimed the keys I delivered were the wrong kind. In every case I replaced the keys at no cost to the purchaser.
Over the last 6 months I have posted many time that I only do keys one day a month. Apparently people who still want keys expect me to just drop every thing and make keys for them. Well thats not happening.
As of now I am no longer going to make De Lorean keys, If you have ordered keys and I have not shipped them, and you can wait until I get around it, then you will get your keys. If you just can't wait let me know and I will, as always, refund your $22.50 in kind. I will also send your keys if they are already made to you with your refund, Cut into interesting shaped parts.
As far as I ma concerned any one who wants keys can try the guy in England who gets $75 each.
Lee
GUEST MODERATOR'S NOTE: I'd like to thank Lee for spending his time and resources on our behalf on this and similar projects. A grateful thanks for an excellent service provided to us.
Knut (guest moderator)
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Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:57:24 -0500
From: "E. Charles Plant" <emmett@bttf.com>
Subject: DML: BTTF DeLoreans
>Only five? I have a BTTF book that says that seven Deloreans were >used
in
>the
>movie. Am I right, or are the other two De's that were mentioned just
>full
>scale models or something?
>Bosch<==
I don't know, but there were two models built for the movies for use in motion control effects. There was also another one built for The Ride. These DeLoreans are 30 inches in length, and cost Universal roughly $15,000 each to build. I'll put pictures of these models up as soon as I get them.
- --E. Charles Plant
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 10:56:57 -0700 (MST)
From: raddad@cmn.net
Subject: Re: DML:Manual vs Automatic
I've owned both the automatic and a manual DeLorean. While this doesn't make me an expert, it does give a perpective not all can share.
The automatic has two problems. The first is the reliability problem which is almost solely due to the computer governor. You can put a transmission cooler on the car (I did) and this helps a lot. I had put two computers on the car prior to the cooler (done at 47,000 miles) and none after that (I drove it for nearly 100,000 miles).
THe other problem is that the performance sucks.Here you sit in this beautifully designed car and VW Beetles (the old ones with 40 HP) beat you across the street.
If you are looking for a boulevard cruiser and have no intentions of EVER driving it like a sports car, the automatic, with the transmission cooler, should be fine. Otherwise, the manual 5-speed is the only way to fly.
My 2¢.
Dick Ryan
VIN 16867
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:33:36 -0500
From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@eclipse.net>
Subject: DML: Two problems... any solutions?
First, I noticed last night that my interior lights came and went off
when they "felt like it"; even when the doors were both shut and locked.
Any solution?
Second, when I have my heater on the hot position, and the dial is in
bi-level, cold air blows on my feet while warm air blows out the vents.
But when I put it on heater mode (exclusively on my feet), warm air then
blows on my feet. Why is there cold air on my feet when in the bi-level
position?
Thanks in advance for any help. ---Dan #5493
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:28:23 PST
From: "Marc Barth" <d16y8@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: DML:Manual vs Automatic
It's not that automatics are bad it's just that the Delorean is an enthusiasts car. Most enthusiasts prefer manual transmissions therefore the manuals are in higher demand thus causing the lower price for the automatics.
>From: "Jeremy Curtis" <happy_gil75@hotmail.com>
>To: dmcnews@world.std.com
>Subject: DML:Manual vs Automatic
>Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:28:20 PST
>Reply-To: dmcnews@world.std.com
>
> All this discussion about the Cheap D got me wondering. Are
>automatics REALLY that bad? I have seen many Automatic D's go for much
>less than I would imagine them going for. Even if someone where to
take
>an automatic to DMC ONE and have them completely check and rebuild it,
>would it still be crap? All that I have heard about auto's is bad. Is
>there no way to avoid problems if you have an auto D??
>
>just curious!!
>Jeremy Curtis
>No VIN# yet!!
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:29:52 EST
From: ABatt10347@aol.com
Subject: DML: Fascia Panel question
Fellow DMCer's,
While looking at a friends D (Vin# 02378) I noticed a different coloring to the fascia panel (part # 105186). The fan speed numbers are trimmed in green.
There were some other areas different (green trim around the different symbols) from my D (vin #06569). I checked the parts manual and it states that the fascia panel was changed after vin # 1963. Parts manual list #'s 105186 and # 108920. My question is how many of you have the green trimmed fascia panels and what is your vin's? This can be found on the Section 7/subsection 3/group 0, number of part is 35. Just when you think you know a lot about D's something like this makes you remember that there is much more to learn. By the way Vin#02378 is due to have a full work over and will be back on the road soon. Glad to have another D driving around in TN. I'll let vin# 02378 introduce his self when his ride is ready. Welcome to the world of Deloreans!
Bruce Battles
Vin # 06569
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:05:41 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: DML:Manual vs Automatic
Jeremy,
Resale values of automatics vs. manuals are the same. The automatic is strong and reliable, it's only weakness is the factory installed governor computer. This item, which is a plug in item, is easily and inexpensively repaired.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: Jeremy Curtis <happy_gil75@hotmail.com>
> To: dmcnews@world.std.com
> Subject: DML:Manual vs Automatic
> Date: Friday, February 12, 1999 3:28 PM
>
> All this discussion about the Cheap D got me wondering. Are
> automatics REALLY that bad? I have seen many Automatic D's go for much
> less than I would imagine them going for. Even if someone where to take
> an automatic to DMC ONE and have them completely check and rebuild it,
> would it still be crap? All that I have heard about auto's is bad. Is
> there no way to avoid problems if you have an auto D??
>
> just curious!!
> Jeremy Curtis
> No VIN# yet!!
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:13:44 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: DML: Re: DELOREAN FONT
James,
Went to your site at Geocities and got a blank page, help!
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: James McBuney <jmcburne@optonline.net>
> To: dmcnews@world.std.com
> Subject: DML: DELOREAN FONT
> Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 1:48 AM
>
> Due to the many requests for the DeLorean Font, Please visit my web page
> at http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Shop/7682/intro.html
> The file can be easily downloaded. Please do not send e-mails directly
> to me. Thanks in advance.
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:14:53 -0800
From: Alex Krochmal <alexk@spiritone.com>
Subject: DML: GULLWING UPDATED
GULLWING UPDATED
http://members.xoom.com/Gullwings/
GUEST MODERATOR'S NOTE: I'm not sure I'm supposed to be posting messages like this, so I apologize if anyone finds this post annoying.
Knut
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 19:06:19 -0700
From: scottmueller@zebra.net (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: Re: No more keys
Well guys, we were looking at a gift horse in the mouth, so to speak. WE just lost a good source of OEM style keys for our DeLoreans.
Thanks for all of your help and extraordinary efforts Mr Lee S.
Its too bad that people do not appreciate the amount of time and effort it takes for someone to make these specialty items. I know that Lee should have charged at least $50 for these, but he was just trying to help out fellow owners.
Do not get discouraged Lee. I sure hope that we can meet in St Louis this Sept '99.
Scott Mueller
1981/002981 DOA/DMCNEWS
Deep South Delorean Owners
Future Events Page
http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/CamilliaClassic.htm
April 3, 1999 Mobile, AL Camillia Classic
April 17, 1999 Pensacola, FL Beach Bash and All British Car Show
May 2, 1999 Townsend, TN Blount British Car Gathering
May 21-23, 1999, DeLorean Eastern Regional Run 9, hosted by DeLoreans of New
England
Subject: DML: No more keys
>To our DML Membership:
>
> As many of you know I have been making De Lorean Logo top keys for
>any one
>who wanted them. This was just something I did in my spare time and more or
>less at cost. I went to the trouble of getting the bear metal blanks from
>the same company that produced the original De Lorean Keys. My key efforts
>have been any thing but a business, not $10 each.
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:36:25 -0800
From: "lseiler@radiance.com" <lseiler@radiance.com>
Subject: Re: DML: DELOREAN FONT
At 01:48 AM 2/13/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Due to the many requests for the DeLorean Font, Please visit my web page
>at http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Shop/7682/intro.html
>The file can be easily downloaded. Please do not send e-mails directly
>to me. Thanks in advance.
>
>
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>
reply:
I tried the URL, It is broken with JAVA script errors, and going to the site apparently requires membership? I am not interested in leaving my URL with another site, which seams to just generate more spam. I now have to sort out about 50% of the e-mail as just trash spam and get rich quick scams.........
I don't know how you solve the problems or if you can, I think that members should know what they may encounter searching for the DMC font.
Lee
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:52:59 -0800
From: "lseiler@radiance.com" <lseiler@radiance.com>
Subject: Re: DML: '81 Cheap
At 04:03 PM 2/12/99 -0600, you wrote:
>With very nice DeLoreans going for $18-$20,000 why would anyone want to pay
>$8-$10,000 for a dog that requires another $12,000 to bring it into shape?
>That's why many lesser cars are passed up when someone is searching for a
>DeLorean. At the moment there are enough nice DeLoreans around so market is
>satisfied. This means the only option for unloading the dog is to make the
>price too good to pass up. It's supply and demand. There's enough $20,000
>cars around for those willing to spend that amount. When there isn't
enough,
>people will be willing to spend the money to restore the neglected ones.
>
>Bruce Benson
>
>
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reply:
Hi Bruce!,
While I am not in the category of those who want cheap De Loreans, My guess is that the reason for picking up a "beater" is for the FUN value of restoring or fixing up the purchase.
I found mounting my own seat covers, changing or installing my own new short front springs, Tearing out and installing new rear calipers, was once I got over the fear of doing such jobs, it was really fun and very satisfying.
Remember that there are people who don't have any interest in doing any kind of car maintence and those who are not happy unless something is wrong and needs fixing.
As to the rest I tend to agree with your view.
Lee
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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:42:40 -0700
From: scottmueller@zebra.net (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: Mobile Mardes Gras
I went to my first Marde Gras Parade today. It was a lot of fun. For those of you who do not know, Madres Gras parades/celebrations started in Mobile in the 1830's, before New Orleans.
The reason I bring this up is I was thinking, wouldn't it be great to participate with a bunch of DeLoreans in the parade. Of course we would have to wear costumes and throw beads and moon pies.
We could be the Crewe of the Future.
Does anyone else have any thoughts about this idea.
Is it a good one?
Does it suck?
Let me know.
Scott Mueller
ScottMueller@zebra.net
1981/002981 DOA/DMCNEWS
Deep South Delorean Owners
Future Events Page
http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/CamilliaClassic.htm
April 3, 1999 Mobile, AL Camillia Classic
April 17, 1999 Pensacola, FL Beach Bash and All British Car Show
May 2, 1999 Townsend, TN Blount British Car Gathering
May 21-23, 1999, DeLorean Eastern Regional Run 9, hosted by DeLoreans of New
England
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:14:14 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Wilson <fluffy@snurgle.org>
Subject: Re: DML:Manual vs Automatic
On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Jeremy Curtis wrote:
> All this discussion about the Cheap D got me wondering. Are
> automatics REALLY that bad? I have seen many Automatic D's go for much
> less than I would imagine them going for. Even if someone where to take
Not if you're the sort of person that likes automatic transmissions. I think the low value of that car was due to the fact that it didn't run, rather than the type of transmission.
Personally, I hate automatic transmissions (and power steering ;) ) and can't imagine why anyone would want a car equipped with one, unless they just didn't know how to drive a manual transmission. The way I see it, if you can't steer, shift, operate the clutch, brakes, accelerator, hold breakfast, adjust the radio, talk on a cell phone, and shave (or, if female, apply makeup) all at the same time, then you obviously don't have enough limbs. Hang up and drive. :} But a guy who used to work at the same company I did and I were discussing the relative merits of the DeLorean and came to transmissions.
He said "I wouldn't want a manual transmission. To me, the DeLorean is a
luxury car, and a luxury car should have an automatic transmission." He
also didn't like clutches, on the principle that major mechanical
drivetrain components shouldn't be designed to wear out with time. :}
I on the other hand, think of the DeLorean as a sports car with an air conditioner, and a sports car should have a 5-speed manual transmission.
The DeLorean automatic transmission does have some trouble with the governor computer, and the evidence is that it is less reliable than the 5-speed. But it's not "terrible" especially for the time period. It's still a 3-speed auto transmission and will decrease your performance correspondingly.
Either sort of car is going to have comparable collector value and about half were made with either transmission type.
> an automatic to DMC ONE and have them completely check and rebuild it,
> would it still be crap? All that I have heard about auto's is bad. Is
> there no way to avoid problems if you have an auto D??
The problem with the auto appears to be mostly that the transmission gets too hot and fries the computer. In addition the computer appears to be subject to fluctuating voltages which causes premature wear. There are oil coolers and electronic components available which cut down on these problems and make the auto transmissions reliable.
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 04:54:40 +0000
From: "Ian T. A. Foster" <ian@netvigator.com>
Subject: DML: RE: '81 cheap
Hallo all,
So who eventually bought this "money-pit" (as I read it described) and how much was paid for it? Have they seen it yet. If its being parted out let me know!
Cheers, IAN
***********************************************************************WaltH obbs@aol.com wrote:
> Thanks to all that showed an interest in this car.
> It has been sold.
> Please don't call Bob any more.
> Thanks again, Walt
>
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:50:38 +0000
From: "Ian T. A. Foster" <ian@netvigator.com>
Subject: DML: Happy Chinese New Year!
Hallo DMCers,
Cruise those DeLoreans down to your local Chinese Take-away tomorrow and wish the owner "Kung Hey Fat Choi" ... you will be a star customer!
Tomorrow is New Years Day in the Chinese Calender ... the first day of the "Year of the Rabbit". Any of you born under the Rabbit in 1975, 1963(me!), 1951, 1936, 1927, 1915 this is your year.
Its the one day of the year that the roads are empty in Hong Kong ... oh to have my DeLorean here!!! I have however a fun day planned on my motorcycles.
A Prosperous, Safe, and Happy Year of the Rabbit to all DeLorean Enthusiasts from Hong Kong!
Cheers, IAN
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:59:18 EST
From: David Toscano <dmcnut@juno.com>
Subject: DML: '81 For Sale, Decent Shape, Needs Work
VIN 04337, located in Central Massachusetts.
Odometer reads about 3400 miles, believed to be approx. 26K miles based on Lambda counter, automatic, grey interior.
SS nearly perfect, very small dent in left rear w/no underbody damage.
Car was running and driving about six months ago, have not tried since. Still has Ducellier alternator, not much work done on car after it sat in the sun for 11 years, replaced fuel pump and flushed entire fuel system in summer '97.
All original except for drivers' door struts.
Needs: front fascia realignment; all painted body surfaces need new paint; moderate interior work incl. binnicle, headliner, battery compartment cleaning, and a very good carpet cleaning; probably needs fuel sys. attention; fixing a few electrical shorts (from mice nibbling wires); etc.
Asking $9000.
Please email me for more info or to discuss this.
Thanks.
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:48:53 -0800
From: Hank Breer <hbreer@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: DML: DELOREAN FONT
> jmcburne@optonline.net wrote:
>
> If anyone is interested I have a DeLorean font my brother created. Give
> me you e-mail and I would be happy to send it.
>
and in a second message:
>
> Due to the many requests for the DeLorean Font, Please visit my web page
> at http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Shop/7682/intro.html
> The file can be easily downloaded. Please do not send e-mails directly
> to me. Thanks in advance.
lseiler@radiance.com wrote:
> I tried the URL, It is broken with JAVA script errors...
<snip>
> I don't know how you solve the problems or if you can, I think that
> members should know what they may encounter searching for the DMC font.
This appears to be the "DMC" Truetype Font mentioned in dmcnews postings in April, 1997.
(See the archives). It was created, copyrighted, and marketed by
Axe Creatives Computer Svces
35 Parkway Dr NW
Commack NY 11725
Phone: (516) 864-4907
I would like to be able to use it, but need to know if you or your brother now own the rights to this, or do I need to contact Axe Creatives to obtain a licensed copy?
Hank
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:20:25 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: DML:Manual vs Automatic
Dick,
Acceleration figures for the auto vs. the five speed are very close. If an automatic does not push you back in your seat from a standing start there is a problem. If you had poor acceleration in your automatic you either had a bad computer or a malfunctioning fuel enrichment circuit.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: raddad@cmn.net
> To: dmcnews@world.std.com
> Subject: Re: DML:Manual vs Automatic
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 12:56 PM
>
> I've owned both the automatic and a manual DeLorean. While this doesn't
> make me an expert, it does give a perpective not all can share.
>
> The automatic has two problems. The first is the reliability problem
which
> is almost solely due to the computer governor. You can put a transmission
> cooler on the car (I did) and this helps a lot. I had put two computers
on
> the car prior to the cooler (done at 47,000 miles) and none after that (I
> drove it for nearly 100,000 miles).
>
> THe other problem is that the performance sucks.Here you sit in this
> beautifully designed car and VW Beetles (the old ones with 40 HP) beat
you
> across the street.
>
> If you are looking for a boulevard cruiser and have no intentions of EVER
> driving it like a sports car, the automatic, with the transmission cooler,
> should be fine. Otherwise, the manual 5-speed is the only way to fly.
>
> My 2¢.
>
> Dick Ryan
> VIN 16867
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:04:18 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: DML: Re: Two problems... any solutions?
Gerald,
For your interior lighting problem disconnect one of the wires leading to your door switches and see if the problem goes away, if it does try to isolate which door switch is causing the problem. If it's not the door switch you bay have a defective Lamp Delay Module.
This is a common problem and is easy to fix. The only special tool required is a long slender (human) arm. Working from the drivers foot well reach into the opening just to the right of the accelerator pedal towards the open space between the firewall and air plenum. With the heater on you should feel cold air coming from that area. The source of the cold air is an opening that should be sealed by a piece of foam rubber attached to the air plenum. This foam seal is partially detached because the adhesive applied at the factory has dried out.
To correct this problem do whatever is necessary to block this opening. Because of the limited working space in this area you will probably find that a piece of duct tape placed over the foam should correct the problem. Another easy solution is to stuff a piece of packing foam between the firewall and the seal.
If you have any questions about these procedures let me know.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net>
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> From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1@eclipse.net>
> To: 'dmcnews@world.std.com'
> Subject: DML: Two problems... any solutions?
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 1:33 PM
>
> First, I noticed last night that my interior lights came and went off
> when they "felt like it"; even when the doors were both shut and locked.
> Any solution?
>
> Second, when I have my heater on the hot position, and the dial is in
> bi-level, cold air blows on my feet while warm air blows out the vents.
> But when I put it on heater mode (exclusively on my feet), warm air then
> blows on my feet. Why is there cold air on my feet when in the bi-level
> position?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help. ---Dan #5493
>
>
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:19:58 PST
From: "jack knife" <knife_jack@hotmail.com>
Subject: DML: BTTF DeLoreans
In 1986, I went to Hollywood, California and took the Universal Studios tour. The tour guide said that SEVEN (7) DeLoreans were used for the filming in the movie. Some were used for driving only, others used for interior shots only. That's what the guide said.
In 1995, I went to Orlando and went by the Universal Studios tour. The DeLorean that was sitting outside 'the ride' was not, in my opinion, any one of the 7 original cars used in the movie. It was obvious that it was just another DeLorean modified to look like the other D's that participated in the movie.
As for the DeLorean in BTF III that was destroyed...
Someone please assure me that it was a model...
C.Knight
Vin:1328
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:37:23 -0500
From: "Watkins Family watbmv@megalink.net" <watbmv@megalink.net>
Subject: DML: Clutch
I originally noticed a black gel like substance coming out of my clutch master from where the piston goes into the dust cover. I figure since it was not my DOT 4 fluid I didn't worry, I placed a rag in the small indentation just in case.........
Now my car's up for the winter and not being driven. About 3 weeks ago I noticed that my clutch pedal was soft. I checked the fluid and it was low. I filled it with DOT4 and pumped the pedal a few times and it came back. I haven't driven the car since as it's up for the winter. I went in it today and the fluid is gone and the pedal goes to the floor. Luckily I had put that rag in there. The rag caught all the fluid.
Question 1: what was the black gel like stuff?
Question2 : Since it's draining by itself while in storage is this more serious than a shot master? I assume I will need to replace the master, even though it was replaced not too long ago by the previous owner, but is the self draining a common symptom of a bad master or would it be more like a broken line?
Also, since I have no DMC repair places close here in Maine, I was wondering if a master replacement can be handled by a competent mechanic? Any special things to watch out for while replacing one? A local service place, of good reputation, has replaced rusted out brake lines on 2 of my other cars with no problem. I'm always more wary when it comes to my "D".
Thanks
Tom #5732
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:52:47 PST
From: "Guess Who" <fallguy_one@hotmail.com>
Subject: DML: question
Anybody out there have a Delorean and live in the western half of Iowa
(Des Moines and west ) or eastern Nebraska in the Omaha area if so
e-mail me at fallguy_one@hotmail.com. I have a question I have to ask
you. Thanks
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:27:26 EST
From: Skorpionxx@aol.com
Subject: DML: Want to buy a DeLorean in Europe
Hello,
I'm searching for a DeLorean in Europe.
I offer up to 25000 DM (15000 US$).
Nina
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:00:45 EST
From: VIPERTV@aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: Re: DELOREAN FONT
Joe,
I did happen to e-mail James directly, and he sent me the font. I then uploaded it to my webpage. If anyone needs the DeLorean font, Please go to:
http://members.xoom.com/DMCViper/dmcfont.zip
Thanks.
PS: Unzip the file into your Windows/font/ directory.
Steven Lawrence
~VIPERTV@aol.com
Steven Lawrence's DeLorean Webpage
~http://members.xoom.com/DMCViper/
(Under Construction)
<< James,
Went to your site at Geocities and got a blank page, help!
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe@att.net> >>
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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:45:18 EST
From: DocBosch@aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: BTTF VIN
>>Get your BttF part 2 tape and fast foward it to the part
>>were
>>Doc is lowering the time machine allowing marty to go from the D' to
>>Biff's
>>black car. As the car is lowering to the ground Notice How big the logo
>>on
>>the grill is! It is twice as big as the original logo. This proves that
>>the
>>car in that scene and in others was just a fiberglass body woth the wheels
>>already rotated.
While you're there, something else I noticed about that scene. If you look closely, when Marty is descending from the De on the hover board, under the now horizontal wheel you can make out a small track wheel rotating. This shows that that De was a mockup on a track.
Bosch<==
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:40:24 EST
From: KKoncelik@aol.com
Subject: DML: DeLorean Car Show
I have had a few e-mails recently wondering where the DeLorean Car Show Home page went.
I have changed servers to one.net and am working on the web page for the
Delorean Car Show "Year 2000" In CLeveland June 15-18th
Hope to see you all there
All I can say is that it will be bigger and better than in Cincinnati.
I'll post the new web address sometime in March.
Ken
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:35:06 -0800
From: "lseiler@radiance.com" <lseiler@radiance.com>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: No more keys
At 07:06 PM 2/14/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
Snip........................................................................
............................................................................
.......................................... I sure hope that we can meet in St Louis this Sept '99.
>
>Scott Mueller
reply:
Hi Scott,
I have wanted to take a trip cross country in my "D", I was thinking about the year 2000 show maybe donating a few unsold kits?, or a trip to DMC in Texas, I have been threw St Louis several times, But I am uncertain what the weather is like in Sept.?
I will give it some thought
Lee
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:01:47 EST
From: TybaltCa@aol.com
Subject: DML: Delray Beach Sighting
I was coming home from the mall in Boyton Beach florida last Saturday night when I passed a black DeLorean near the corner of George Bush Blvd. and Fedral Highway in Derlay Beach. Of course I wasn't in my D, but today (Monday), I was driving to the 7-11 in the same area and along the way I passed the same D park infront of what i assume to be it's home. I was somdering if the owner was on the list, or if anyone knew who it was. I've had my D for about a year and a half now, and haven't met any other owners in the area, but I would be interested in doing so.
Matthew Woolley
Vin# 3957
Email=Tybaltca@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:43:46 EST
From: Ad8302@aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: BTTF DeLoreans
In a message dated 2/15/99 7:51:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, knife_jack@hotmail.com writes:
<< As for the DeLorean in BTF III that was destroyed...
Someone please assure me that it was a model... >
I was told that the Delorean used in part 3 was 1 of the worst out of the 5 used, it was a real Delorean and was loosened at all major parts so it would shatter on impact. The engine and transmission were not in the car at the time of the impact. ALL of the parts that are left are sitting in a ware house in one of the backlots. If you look at the film, it is easy to see that yes these are real Delorean pieces and not that of a model.
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:11:59 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Wilson <fluffy@snurgle.org>
Subject: Re: DML: BTTF DeLoreans
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, jack knife wrote:
> As for the DeLorean in BTF III that was destroyed...
> Someone please assure me that it was a model...
Previous discussion on the list seems to indicate that the car that was destroyed was, in fact, a real DeLorean, but was almost certainly not in running condition.
First, it had been modified to run on rails, and probably not gently. My guess is that the steering, axles, and transmission (and probably engine) had all been removed in order to facilitate this. Second, when the car is hit by the train, a number of noticeable DeLorean parts come flying out. The way in which the car comes apart (shattering rather than crumpling)
seems to indicate that the majority of the structure had been removed so
that it would fly apart nicely. Unfortunately, it looks rather detailed
to be a model. :\
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