Friday, February 26 1999 Volume 03 : Number 486
In this issue:
DML: MY CAR SPUTTERS...
DML: Re: Want to buy a DeLorean in Europe
DML: Repainting Facias
DML: Automatic Transmission Cooler
DML: DeLorean parts/accessories for sale - UPDATED
DML: Headlight eyebrow!
DML: RE: MY CAR SPUTTERS...
DML: Ohio DeLorean Event This Saturday
DML: garage lift
DML: Re: MY CAR SPUTTERS...
DML: Re: Dash Question
DML: Antenna Location
DML: Stripe removal
DML: BTTF II & III Model (oriental version)
DML: Cool Website
DML: JZD on E!
DML: 3d Dimensions of the DeLorean
DML: Which Alternator
DML: Trip to PJ Grady's
DML: Re: Which Alternator
DML: Re: Antenna Location
Re: DML: garage lift
DML: DML Listing
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:37:46 -0500 From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1(AT)eclipse.net> Subject: DML: MY CAR SPUTTERS...
For some reason, my car sputters until about 3,000 RPM's under hard = acceleration. This started right after I changed the fuel filter and = accumulator. Is it possible that I need to change the plugs, wires, cap = and rotor? I was planning on doing it anyway since they came with the = car when I bought it last year, but it's just strange how this problem = just arose after changing the filter and accumulator. Does anyone know = what could be causing this problem? ---Dan
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:10:14 +0100 From: "Carte Blanche Limousine" <carteblanche(AT)franceplus.com> Subject: DML: Re: Want to buy a DeLorean in Europe
Let me your fax number where I can send you a list of DMC to sell in Europe. But most of the time DMC are on the average of 38.000 DM. If you want you can reach me at 00.33.1.47.43.90.09 for more information
Cyril from France VIN 1807
- ---------- > De : Skorpionxx(AT)aol.com > A : dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Objet : DML: Want to buy a DeLorean in Europe > Date : lundi 15 fivrier 1999 22:27 > > Hello, > > I'm searching for a DeLorean in Europe. > I offer up to 25000 DM (15000 US$). > > Nina >
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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:22:50 -0500 From: David Sontos <sontos(AT)ibm.net> Subject: DML: Repainting Facias
One of my projects for the DeLorean this winter was to repaint the front
and rear facias. I removed both facias and trucked them over to two local paint shops for quotes. Each shop quoted $450 for the pair just to
paint over the existing paint. And because the facias already had several layers of paint on them they would not guarantee that they wouldn't crack when I tried to reinstall them back on the car. One shop said they could partially sand them but that was another $200 and he still would not guarantee them. That's when I decided to do the painting
myself.
The first task was to try and straighten the eyebrow over the one headlamp. This was accomplished by heating the warped area with a infrared spotlight like you have in bathroom ceiling heaters. Once the area was quite warm and soft I clamped two pieces of wood across the warped area to straighten it and removed the lamp and let it sit overnight. In the morning I removed the splints and had a straight fascia.
The next task was to remove the several layers of paint on each fascia. I used Parks Pro Stripper furniture paint stripper. Methylene Chloride is the active ingredient that removes the paint. The trick is to not let
the paint stripper sit on the bare plastic so you need to wash it off before it can attack the plastic fascia. This took several days of applying chemicals, scrubbing off paint, reapplying another coat of chemicals and scrubbing off paint. Finally got down to bare plastic.
I couldn't find any paint suppliers to cross reference the DAU33584 paint spec so I found the PPG web site and found the central office telephone number. To find a local PPG supplier call the main office at (440)572-6100. My local dealer turned out to be just three miles from my house. I wanted to prime the bare plastic, paint it and apply a clear overcoat to my facias. This required six components. I also found out that the DAU paint tints has been discontinued and replaced with DBC33584. These are the six PPG components:
DX814 Flexibilizer $22.10/pt DU5 Urethane Hardener $42.85/qt DT870 Reducer $10.65/qt DBC33584 Paint $43.10/qt DCU2001 Clear Urethane Overcoat $30.70/qt DPX801 Plastic Primer $31.95/qt
The primer is applied straight from the can. The paint is applied as one
part paint and one part reducer. The clear coat is applied as two parts clear, one part reducer, one part hardener, and one part flexibilizer.
The finished product looks pretty good too.
Dave Sontos VIN 02573
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 00:11:09 EST From: MMartin478(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: Automatic Transmission Cooler
Hello , I have recently decided to add an auxillary cooler to my automatic transmission and my search led me to a guy named Teri Jennings (thanks, Dick Ryan). I remember seeing his name in some of my older Delorean World and Gullwing publications and I suspect those of you who have been involved with Deloreans for awhile may remember him. I called him today and found him to be quite personable and knowledgeable about the car, various club history and specialty parts (he evidently manufactured things like whale tales,oil filter adapters,stainless steel bumper letters,etc.) . Seems he had not been to active lately with the Delorean hobby and was not aware of the DMCnews list ,so I sent him an email with the address. Who knows, maybe he will subscribe and become a regular contributor. By the way , his number is (626)334-5262
Regards, Milt Martin VIN#6370
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 06:39:09 -0000 From: James Espey <espey(AT)dmcnews.com> Subject: DML: DeLorean parts/accessories for sale - UPDATED
I am getting ready to move, and I need to "purge" my garage of a bunch of stuff that I can't take with me...I am offering the DeLorean-related items to the DML readership first.
(1) Front fascia, new in box later light grey color, $500 plus FREE shipping in US (1) fixed door glass, passenger side $50 plus shipping (1) original plastic coolant bottle, no cracks or leaks $75 plus shipping (1) set of Fred Lockett designed lowering springs NEW, $250 plus shipping (1) Parts Manual, bound $35 plus shipping (1) Suggested Warranty Repair Times Manual, neat & hard to find $40 plus shipping (1) Shop Manual, bound $35 plus shipping
Thanks to all who so quickly responded -
Not-so DeLorean related... (1) JVC AM/FM Cassette, shaft style, used in my DMC while the ASI was being repaired $40
Email me if you are interested in any of these items...
James Espey #10570
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:47:18 +0000 From: "Ian T. A. Foster" <ian(AT)netvigator.com> Subject: DML: Headlight eyebrow!
Hi Gary,
This fella on the list seems to have had some success regarding the 'eyebrow' over the headlight.
Cheers, IAN
David Sontos wrote: > The first task was to try and straighten the eyebrow over the one > headlamp. This was accomplished by heating the warped area with a > infrared spotlight like you have in bathroom ceiling heaters. Once the > area was quite warm and soft I clamped two pieces of wood across the > warped area to straighten it and removed the lamp and let it sit > overnight. In the morning I removed the splints and had a straight > fascia.
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:12:08 -0600 From: "Travis Graham" <travis.h.graham(AT)vanderbilt.edu> Subject: DML: RE: MY CAR SPUTTERS...
Hi Dan,
I had a problem like what you describe here (though I did not have anything replaced prior to the problem). Looking through the archives, you can find where I described my problem in detail toward the end of: http://www.dmcnews.com/backissues/dml302.html. I felt that I was in for some major repairs, but was pleasently surprised when my fuel/air mix was determined to be the culprit. A quick and cheap solution. Hope yours is equally easy.
Travis Graham
> For some reason, my car sputters until about 3,000 RPM's under hard > acceleration. This started right after I changed the fuel filter and > accumulator. Is it possible that I need to change the plugs, wires, cap > and rotor? Does anyone know what could be causing this problem? ---Dan
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:43:59 -0500 From: Mike Substelny <msubstel(AT)lorainccc.edu> Subject: DML: Ohio DeLorean Event This Saturday
This Saturday, February 27, is the DeLorean Club of Ohio's annual meeting/party. This year it will be held in scenic Roscoe Village in Coshocton, Ohio.
All DeLorean fans are welcome for this casual social occasion. We will be meeting new members, planning our events for the year, discussing some business, and reviewing items of interest everyone who loves DeLoreans. The weather should be clear, so we even expect a few DeLoreans to come out of winter slumber and make an appearance.
It should be a lot of fun.
For $15 you get the meeting and Prime Rib dinner, but I need to get dinner reservations in soon! Feel free to Email or call me for details.
- - Mike Substelny DeLorean Club of Ohio (216) 321-5024
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:27:46 -0600 From: "John P. Chandler II" <chandler(AT)win.bright.net> Subject: DML: garage lift
I am considering installing a car lift in a garage addition which I just completed and am looking for comments and recommendations. One lift that I am considering is an Eagle brand 9000 lb. asymmetrical lift. Also I have seen lifts by Rotary which seem nice. Many thanks. John
John P. Chandler II Hayward, WI 54843, U.S.A. Voice: 715-462-9337 Fax: 715-462-3682
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:59:23 -0600 From: scottmueller(AT)zebra.net (Scott Mueller) Subject: DML: Re: MY CAR SPUTTERS...
I had a sputter problem, it went away after we cleaned the water out from around the spark plug (down in the well). The plug boot was not properly installed on the spark plug well. I had the car put on an engine analyzer and the problem was found in the first minute.
Get a bright flash light and look in the wells. Also, when installing the plug wires, put a small amount of tune up grease on the porcelin and also where the boot goes over the top of the well. It will be easier to take apart the next time.
Scott Mueller ScottMueller(AT)zebra.net 1981/002981 DOA/DMCNEWS Deep South Delorean Owners Future Events Page http://www.zebra.net/~scottmueller/Web%20Page/CamilliaClassic.htm April 3, 1999 Mobile, AL Camillia Classic April 17, 1999 Pensacola, FL Beach Bash and All British Car Show May 2, 1999 Townsend, TN Blount British Car Gathering May 21-23, 1999, DeLorean Eastern Regional Run 9, hosted by DeLoreans of New England
- -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1(AT)eclipse.net>
Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 6:16 AM Subject: DML: MY CAR SPUTTERS...
>For some reason, my car sputters until about 3,000 RPM's under hard = >acceleration. This started right after I changed the fuel filter and = >accumulator. Is it possible that I need to change the plugs, wires, cap = >and rotor? I was planning on doing it anyway since they came with the = >car when I bought it last year, but it's just strange how this problem = >just arose after changing the filter and accumulator. Does anyone know = >what could be causing this problem? ---Dan
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:30:08 -0800 From: Mike Lawrence <mlawrenc(AT)ucla.edu> Subject: DML: Re: Dash Question
> > > My dash is good but I haven't put any type p\of preservative on it yet. I > know the binnacle is vinyl covered as well as the door panels, but the > flat > part feels more like some type of hard material. Should this part be > treated > also? I don't want to make a greasy mess of it :^) > >
All parts of the dash and door panels are made of vinyl, with the exception of the switches and facias, which are plastic, and the leather seat faces. On the vinyl and plastic, use Lexol Vinylex. It's a great cleaner with UV protectant and does not leave a greasy look or feel. You can use it everywhere except the leather. Do not use it on the leather! Lexol also makes excellent leather cleaners and conditioners.
I am not affiliated with this company, just a satisfied customer, yadda yadda yadda...
Mike
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:42:26 EST From: DeLorean31(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: Antenna Location
I have read some posts on antenna locations on the D. I read one post of someone who plugged the antenna hole on the front fender to move the antenna with a silver steel disk. I am looking at a D to buy and it is really a nice car. However one thing that really bothers me is the fact that the antenna is a mast mount on the right front fender as was the case with some early model 81's I think the rear retractable antennas look so much better. I read there was a factory service bulletin available showing how to move the antenna from the fender to the rear but I havent been able to find a copy of it. Does anyone know where I can get a copy? Also is there anyone who has moved the antenna from the fender to the rear or a different location? Any suggestions of the best alternative to the front fender mount would be greatly appreciated
Gary
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:03:40 -0500 From: "Watkins Family watbmv(AT)megalink.net" <watbmv(AT)megalink.net> Subject: DML: Stripe removal
My first Delorean had side stripes and after consulting with Delorean Motor Center I took a regular hairdryer and set it on high and slowly heated up the stripe and it came right off. There was very little residue left behind and what did remain I took a blending pad and got rid of it. After regular cleaning and spraying with super-hi light spray stainless cleaner you could never tell it was there.
Tom
#5742
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:09:44 -0500 From: "Yocom, Shannon" <syocom(AT)mitchellco.com> Subject: DML: BTTF II & III Model (oriental version)
FYI - My friend found me a BTTF III (rail road DMC) model for a late birthday present. He said there was also a BTTF II (flying Mr. Fusion) model kit there as well. It is the oriental modeling company that did the series not Ertl's. The model store is in Columbus, OH. If anybody wants specs on the store's location to snatch up that model write me privately and I can find out the info from that friend. I would have gotten it my self but "you see I all ready got one" (monte python).
Shannon VIN# Not Yet!
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:15 +0000 From: "Martin Gutkowski" <mgutkowski(AT)datastreamicv.co.uk> Subject: DML: Cool Website
Hi all,
Now this ISN'T strictly DeLorean related, but bare with me. The folowing website is truly SUPERB for ANY car fanatic.
Packed with a mix of sidesplitting humour (Daft placenames/Dumb things you've seen whilst driving for example) and thoroughly informative sections (The speedtrap bible/The tyre and wheel bible and so on) this site is well worth a look.
It took me several lunch-hours to read it all!
http://www.audicoupe.demon.co.uk
Although a UK address, it is an international site.
Martin
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:09:12 PST From: "Aaron Gentry" <aries458(AT)hotmail.com> Subject: DML: JZD on E!
Hey, all. If any of you get the cable TV station E!, look for an "E! True Hollywood Story" on JZD coming either April or March. It will be on a Sunday at 8 p.m. I found out from someone that works for E!. She said they just started filming now and the "usual turn-around is 1-2 months." So keep an eye on the TV Guide!
- --Aaron No VIN yet "Yet" being the operative word here.
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 99 13:13:57 MST From: "Jeff Phillips, x-4574" <PhillipsJT00.CS09.USAFA(AT)usafa.af.mil> Subject: DML: 3d Dimensions of the DeLorean
Hey all, I'm looking for someone who has taken 3d measurements of the DeLorean, or that can give more specific dimensions than offered in the User's Manual or DeLorean FAQ. I plan on making a 3d model in OpenGL for a class, If anyone is interested in the OpenGL model after I finish please let me know. Please reply directly to jeff_phillips(AT)brew-meister.com. Lee, I was wondering if you might have these dimensions from when you produced the models.
Jeff Phillips
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 01:40:29 -0700 From: mike atkinson <mikeatk(AT)concentric.net> Subject: DML: Which Alternator
Hello all,
I'm thinking about replacing the alternator in our Delorean some time in the near future and have read several post in the archives some of which are a little old not that it matters. I'm curious if there is an alternator that seems to be a favorite or preferred model to install.
I have driven the car just enough to begin noticing the voltage drop with the headlights on along with a few accessories "fans, ect. We have an 83 with the Motorola 90 amp and am curious what everyone thinks about amperage, installation, brands and so on. I've read about the 105 AMP Delco, 100 AMP Delco, and the 144 Amp Delco and saw others on the parts cross reference list. "Champion: 74-1502, Velo: 9AR, Excel: 14324"
Sorry if this is a boring question, just thought I'd use some of the experience of the group out there to help make my decision. I'm going to ask a couple of the DeLorean service centers as well before I decide.
BTW, as I told DMCJoe the car has been at a Midas shop for a few days and the manager said he has never seen so many people stop by just to see "that car" in the service bay.
Thanks
Mike Atkinson
VIN 16232
mikeatk(AT)concentric.net
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:02:33 EST From: DeLorean31(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: Trip to PJ Grady's
Well last week I made a trip to PJ Grady's. I am in the market for a D and I spoke to Rob about a couple he had at his shop for sale. After looking at a D here in north Jersey I drove another 2 hours out to Long Island to Rob's place. I couldnt believe how many Deloreans he had there. Well I met Rob upon arrival. He literally dropped what he was working on and took the time to talk to me about Deloreans. We then went for a test drive in one of the cars he had for sale. He told me some of the things to watch out for when looking at Deloreans. I told him I was very interested in one D in New Jersey I had seen earlier that day. A 1981 with 2,000 original miles. He said he would drive out to look the car over for me for a fee which I thought was very reasonable for the peace of mind I would having Rob check over a car I was to purchase. I was very impressed with Rob's place. He was very courteous and really seemed to enjoy talking about Deloreans. I had never met him before but after hearing so many good things from people on this list I can say that they are all true when it comes to Rob. I have made a decision on which D I am going to buy of all the ones I have looked at and hope to get it in the next couple weeks. One of the first places it will be going is to PJ Grady's to be checked over and to have a tiny ding on the hood fixed. Rob has spoken to me several times helping me with my purchase decisions which he does not make any money from. He has earned my future business. I am sure the other major Delorean sales and service centers out there are very reliable and personable. Let me say that for those of you however who have not dealt with PJ Grady or met Rob as I had not before, the people on this list are right. He is an extremely knowledgeable and personable man who I look forward to doing business with time and again in the future when my D needs proper parts or service.
Gary Gore
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:52:25 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Which Alternator
Mike, The Motorola (Velo) is our top choice, the Delco is right behind. Call PJ Grady he will hook you up with the best available at this time. BTW there is a possibility that your current unit is OK and you may have a ground problem. To find out for sure, take your alternator to a service facility that can do a "bench test". This could save you $$$.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>
- ---------- > From: mike atkinson <mikeatk(AT)concentric.net> > To: DMCNews <dmcnews(AT)world.std.com> > Subject: DML: Which Alternator > Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 3:40 AM > > Hello all, > > I'm thinking about replacing the alternator in our Delorean some time in > the near future and have read several post in the archives some of which > are a little old not that it matters. I'm curious if there is an > alternator that seems to be a favorite or preferred model to install. > > I have driven the car just enough to begin noticing the voltage drop > with the headlights on along with a few accessories "fans, ect. We have > an 83 with the Motorola 90 amp and am curious what everyone thinks about > amperage, installation, brands and so on. I've read about the 105 AMP > Delco, 100 AMP Delco, and the 144 Amp Delco and saw others on the parts > cross reference list. "Champion: 74-1502, Velo: 9AR, Excel: 14324" > > Sorry if this is a boring question, just thought I'd use some of the > experience of the group out there to help make my decision. I'm going > to ask a couple of the DeLorean service centers as well before I decide. > > BTW, as I told DMCJoe the car has been at a Midas shop for a few days > and the manager said he has never seen so many people stop by just to > see "that car" in the service bay. > > Thanks > > Mike Atkinson > > VIN 16232 > > mikeatk(AT)concentric.net
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:40:35 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Antenna Location
Gary, We have the factory instructions for installation of a power antenna at the left rear of the car. A small charge to cover postage and handling is all that is necessary to send this information to you. If you are interested email or call us directly.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>/770 631-4800 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/3755/ - ---------- > From: DeLorean31(AT)aol.com > To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Subject: DML: Antenna Location > Date: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 11:42 PM I read there was a factory service bulletin available showing how to move the antenna from the fender to the rear but I havent been able to find a copy of it. Does > anyone know where I can get a copy? > > Gary
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:39:20 -0600 From: DON GOWLER <dongowler(AT)mediaone.net> Subject: Re: DML: garage lift
John, I have one in my garage. It is a "Parking Solutions" model. I believe they are out of business now but not sure. Anyway my contact was Tim Turino in Madison at 800 236-1132 and 608 244-1110 several years ago. I use it to store the two 'D's' in one garage location and think it's great. E-mail me direct if you want more info.
Regards, The Silver Fox dongowler(AT)mediaone.net Chicago N/W suburbs
John P. Chandler II wrote:
> I am considering installing a car lift in a garage addition which I just > completed and am looking for comments and recommendations. One lift that > I > am considering is an Eagle brand 9000 lb. asymmetrical lift. Also I have > seen lifts by Rotary which seem nice. Many thanks. > John > > John P. Chandler II > Hayward, WI 54843, U.S.A. > Voice: 715-462-9337 > Fax: 715-462-3682
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:35:44 -0500 From: Martins <martins(AT)ntr.net> Subject: DML: DML Listing
Dear DML,=20
This is my first time posting here, even though I've gotten quite a few = issues of the DML. Anyway down to the point: Are there any DeLorean = enthusiasts, owners, or sellers in the Kentucky area? I'm just looking = for any other DeLorean fans in the area! Just give me an e-mail or post = back.=20
Thanks!
Wes (martins(AT)ntr.net)
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