DeLorean Mailing List - 1/6/97
dmcnews-digest Monday, 6 January 1997 Volume 02 : Number 204
In this issue:
Re: Delorean Value
Drag coefficient?
Re: Delorean Value
Re: Delorean Value
Re: Delorean Value
viewing a DeLorean
DMC-12 Survey
Re: Delorean Value
DeLorean Viewer
Re: DMC-12 Survey
Re: viewing a DeLorean / member2member / service costs
Re: viewing a DeLorean
Re: Delorean Value
Viewing a DeLorean
Re: viewing a DeLorean
Miscellany
parts for sale
Recent DeLorean prices from Old Cars Weekly.
1982 DMC-12 For Sale
Re: Delorean Value
Re: 1982 DMC-12 For Sale
Re: Drag coefficient?
DMC tie and/or tie pin
DeLorean Survey
ABE want matches
Delorean Book Sale
headliners and front/rear nose cone paint DeLorean for Sale
Headlight replacement?
DeLorean Poster
Re: Delorean Poster / Headliner
Happy Birthday John Z.!
Happy Birthday John Z.
RE: DeLorean for Sale
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From: "Marvin S. Sterling" Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 12:16:03 -0800
Subject: Re: Delorean Value
At 12:22 AM 12/25/96 -0600, you wrote:
>This may really seem like a stupid comment, but why couldn't we, as Delorean
>owners, say "Ok....all excellent condition Deloreans are worth around $180,000;
decent Deloreans are worth $150,000; and bad Deloreans are worth
>$85,000 give or take a few thousand here or there on any of the above."
Considering we are the ones that own these cars and they don't make them anymore,
if enough members decided to go along with something like this, why
>wouldn't it work???? Who would really care if collector magazines said that
>the cars aren't worth that much. Delorean owners basically have a 'corner on the
market' so to speak. It just makes me feel bad that such a worthy car as the
Delorean sells for as low as $12,000 considering the kind of car
>it is and the history behind it. Most people are shocked when they find out
>you can get one so cheap. Everyone I talk to always thinks the car costs around
$60,000 to $125,000. I know I would love to be able to sell mine for
>that much! Oh well, just a thought!!!!???!!!!
- --------------------------------------------- Amen !!!
The diamond cartel is smart enough to restrict the flow of diamonds to the market
to maintain value ... Russia (?) has more diamonds than the rest of the world but
is "smart" enough not to do anything to lower the value. So why aren't DeLorean
owners as smart ??? I have asked the same question. We control about 6,000 D's
remaining on the road in the world, that's still a very small number of cars. If
we were to simply take inflation into considersation the sticker price of the car,
which was $32,000 ( I still have the window sticker) would be about $41,000,
assuming 3% per year inflation. Since depreciation should not be a factor, like
land they are not
making any more, a well kept low mileage D should bring a minmum of about $20-22,000
('81) The trouble is that the owner has to be able and willing to
hold out for that price ... something that may not always be possible ... hoping
that a "fire sale" is a rarity it should be a sellers market for our
stainless steel wonders.
Happy New Year to all,
Marv Sterling
Marv Sterling
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From: Justin Gassaway Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:24:18 -0600
Subject: Drag coefficient?
What is the drag coefficient of the Delorean?
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From: raddad@cmn.net
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 19:55:36 -0700
Subject: Re: Delorean Value
a well kept low mileage D should bring a minmum of about
$$20-22,000 ('81)
>Marv Sterling
I agree Marv. In fact, assuming we both have the same vision of a well kept, low
mileage '81, aren't they bringing that now? Seriously, the few I
have seen at prices lower than that have not been well kept, though some have had
low mileage.
Price is only important when you want to sell. Since I have no intention of
selling, it becomes an academic discussion. I just love to have people think I am
driving a $50,000+ car.
Dick Ryan
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From: STANDLOR@aol.com
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 03:16:55 -0500
Subject: Re: Delorean Value
In a message dated 96-12-30 02:47:38 EST, you write:
<< I just love to have people
think I am driving a $50,000+ car.
DICK - JUST HOLD ONTO THAT CAR. IN A FEW YEARS IT VERY WELL MIGHT JUST BE AT
THAT PRICE, NOT BECAUSE OF QUALITY, BUT BY ATTRITION. THERE JUST AINT NO MO
TO BE HAD, AND BY THE WAY I HAVE SEEN MOST OF THE OWNERS KEEPING THEIR CARS -
THOSE THAT TAKE CARE OF WHAT THEY GOT, AND PUT THE PROPER PARTS BACK ON THEIR
CARS WHEN THEY NEED THEM, - WILL GET BIG BUCKS IN THE NOT TO DISTANT FUTURE,
OR IN MY CASE OFFERS CAUSE I DON'T INTEND TO SELL. IF YOU SAW WHAT ONE OWNER
DID TO HIS CAR WHICH I AM PRESENTLY REBUILDING - YOU COULD CRY. EVERY
TIME I LOOK SOMEWHERE - IT IS SCREWED UP - BASTARD PARTS - MADE UP PARTS - SWITCHED
PARTS - MISSING PARTS - GLUED PARTS - PARTS HELD TOGETHER WITH DUCT
TAPE , ETC. I SWEAR THIS IS TRUE ! MORE PEOPLE BUTCHER THEIR CARS THEN TAKE
CARE OF THEM FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN. SOME FROM IGNORANCE , SOME JUST LAZY. TAKE
CARE OF YOUR CAR AND LIKE ANYOTHER GOOD POSESSION, IT SHOULD GAIN IN VALUE, IT
SURELY WILL NEVER GO DOWN. WATCH DELOREAN WORLD FOR THE STORY OF
MY EXPERIENCE WITH MY NEWLY AQUIRED 2ND D. IT HAS BEEN AN EXPERIENCE AND I'M
NOT EVEN DONE YET, BUT CLOSE! MY EVERYDAY CAR IS SOMETHING ELSE. I HAVE BEEN
OFFERED $22,000 AND TURNED IT DOWN. WHAT COULD I BY TO REPLACE IT AT THAT
PRICE - NOT MUCH!
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From: LufkinXC@aol.com
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 03:12:42 -0500
Subject: Re: Delorean Value
The prices of these cars have just astonished me, granted I know people would
more for an 83 D more than an 81 because of what has been built up about the
81's. I myself am looking for a DeLorean and the prices in my opinon are way
to low. I know that I'm only 15 years old, and I can only afford 10,000 dollars,
tops for one. But come on, I've seen excellent conditions ones go for 18,600. I
had a double take on the price that it was so low. I suggest that all the DeLorean
owners, selling there car boost the rice up at least 75% or more. Last year I came
accross an 83 DeLorean in North Carolina in good, running order, everything
original, 98,000 miles selling for 3,300 dollars. Yes that's right 3,300. II
called up this guy, unfourtnately the car
was sold and asked him why so cheap. The response he gave me was " A DeLorean
is a piece of cr**, nobody will pay any more than this" This says it all, if
you are not knowledged based in the familiarity with these cars, don't bother
buying them at all.
Jason
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From: NathH@aol.com
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 09:42:09 -0500
Subject: viewing a DeLorean
I've been a member of the list now for several months, reading to gain as much
knowledge as I can about DeLoreans. I've also read a couple books cover
to cover, and am starting a third (Stainless Steel.., Hard Driving, & DeLorean's
autobiography).
I've been a DeLorean fan for years, however I've only recently had the time
to study the subject. Unfortunately, I haven't actually seen a DMC for years--only
in pictures.
My point of writing is to ask if anyone out there would be willing to show me
their car. I'm going to be doing some extensive travelling in the coming weeks,
and thought someone along my travel path may have a DMC with the patience to show
a novice, such as myself, their car. In the coming weeks, I'll be in Chicago,
Louisville KY, Lexington KY, Knoxville TN, Mobile AL, Pennsacola FL, Iowa City,
plus I live in Milwaukee and frequently to go the
NW Iowa area.
I do plan to own a DeLorean, probably within a 3 year timeframe (which corresponds
nicely to my wife finishing her medical residency).
Thanks in advance.
Nathan Hanson
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From: "Don Gowler-CFPO01" Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 8:53:00 -0600
Subject: DMC-12 Survey
I filled out the survey that Mike Substelny mentioned a few weeks ago and also
found that not enough of us have done it yet to get any summarized results on
the DeLorean and it's typical owners. Get on to the net at:
http://cartalk.com/Info/newsurvey.html
and give it a try. It does take about 20 or so minutes but it's easy and the
results should be enlightening.
Regards, The Silver Fox
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From: ausmith@pdx.oneworld.com
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:02:36 +0000
Subject: Re: Delorean Value
QUIT YELLING!
That aside, I agree the prices are to low but I hope they stay at their present
levels 'till I can find another.
One of the reasons I have my present car is partly due to the original owners
frustration with service. There used to be a garage in his area that "specialized"
in DeLoreans. I have corrected most of their repairs and can certainly understand
his feelings. People come in all different configurations, some are mechanical and
some aren't. If you aren't, and depend on someone who says he is for service and
repairs you are at his mercy. Bad service and repairs equals unreliability and
leads to that car getting a bad reputation. He tells his friends and the lie
multiplies.
This train of thought leads me to an article in the current Delorean World
entitled "Be Prepared for that Breakdown". If you own a well maintained Ford or
Chevy, or more to the point Volvo, are you going to carry all these parts around
expecting failure? Stupid article, also lending support to the myth of
unreliability. Good information generally but the title sucks.
Chris
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From: "Don Gowler-CFPO01" Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 9:25:00 -0600
Subject: DeLorean Viewer
Nathon, anytime you're in the Chicago N/W suburbs April thru October give me a
call and we can show you a car or two. E-Mail me direct at: cfpo01@email.mot.com
Regards, The Silver Fox
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From: Kevin MacDougall Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 10:08:38 -0500
Subject: Re: DMC-12 Survey
I also did the survey and found there was not enough input...I urge you all to do
it to show that Delorean's really do matter out there!!!!!!
Kevin MacDougall
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From: James Espey
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 96 09:28:25 -0000
Subject: Re: viewing a DeLorean / member2member / service costs
>their car. I'm going to be doing some extensive travelling in the coming weeks,
and thought someone along my travel path may have a DMC with the patience to show
a novice, such as myself, their car. In the coming weeks, I'll be in Chicago,
Louisville KY, Lexington KY, Knoxville TN, Mobile AL, Pennsacola FL, Iowa City,
plus I live in Milwaukee and frequently to go the NW Iowa area.
It's too bad that Phoenix is not along your travel path! Not only would I be
willing to "show and tell", but the weather is probably much warmer here than
anywhere you mentioned, with the possible exceptions of P-cola and Mobile.
In any case, if ANYONE is ever in the Phoenix area, let me know and we'll get
together. I spent the 24-29 of December in Las Vegas, Reno and Lake Tahoe and
was able to meet up with a DeLorean owner and list member in Tahoe. Ray Petragallo
owns an '83 DeLorean that had an unfortunate engine fire last summer. He's about
half through the repair process. Ray and I spent a couple hours one night just
swapping stories and drinking beer - not a bad way to spend an evening in my
book! Incidentally, Ray also owns a beautiful black Ferrari Testarossa that I
fell in love with - until we talked about maintenance and insurance differences
between the two.
Ray's Testarossa is due for a 30,000 mile service and he tells me that it'll
cost about three to five thousand dollars to have it done properly. A similar
service on a DeLorean, done by one of the better known service facilities would
probably cost considerably less than a thousand, including parts and labor.
I could probably afford the "price of admission" for a pre-owned Ferrari, like
a 308 or 348, but the service and insurance would eat me up. Which is another
reason to like the DeLorean, Ray summed it up when he said that the DeLorean is
easily the most "bang for the buck". A stylish, attractive, easily maintained
and reliable car that is realtively inexpensive to obtain AND maintain. Not
particularly practical (what sports car is?), nor is it a speed demon (in
normally aspirated form), but still an attention getting head turner like no
other car in it's price range.
James Espey
Poster Purveyor
http://www.goodnet.com/~mikasa/poster.html
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From: LufkinXC@aol.com
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 12:46:37 -0500
Subject: Re: viewing a DeLorean
Nathan, I know of one personally in my neighboring town, the person also
retrofitted it to the way it was during Back to the Future. Unfourtanately I
live in Ct. If you ever come by, just E-Mail me ahaead of time at LufkinXC@AOL.com
I'd be happy to show you it.
-Jason
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From: jason74@juno.com (Jason T Brown)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 08:01:27 PST
Subject: Re: Delorean Value
Do deloreans last and are they reliable? What If it breaks down on the road can I
just take it to a automotive place and get them to fix it or would I have to send
it to a special delorean shop? There are no shops in North Carolina that I have
heard of or that are based on deloreans.
Jason
DieHard14@aol.comPhone:(910)578-3703
P.S. How much does it cost to ship a delorean from another state say like California?
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From: brian henderlong Date: 30 Dec 96 19:37:53 +0100
Subject: Viewing a DeLorean
There's a DeLorean owner who lives about 10 minutes away from my house in Tampa;
his street is one I use twice or three times a week. I hope that seeing his car
sitting in the carport every week will keep me from "freaking out" when I sit in
the first DeLorean I consider buying. I don't want to be so impressed with the
appearance of the car that I overlook all the important details (unfortunately
I've done that with other items I've bought used).
Happy New Year to everybody!
Brian Henderlong
bhenderlong@wusf.usf.edu
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From: RazzzzD@aol.com
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 23:24:08 -0500
Subject: Re: viewing a DeLorean
Nathan,
If you are ever in land of Mickey Mouse (Central Florida) I would be more than
happy to show you my DMC-12.
Razz
RAZZZZD@AOL.COM
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From: aerostar@ccia.com
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 22:21:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Miscellany
re: Red Death
REC Technologies has a device that will prevent rust for reasons that I will not
repeat here due to space limitations. Priced from $80-150, the system is available
from JC Whitney... any user experience?
Also, someone posted here in DMC News about a stainless frame to be available if
need be...
re: DMC Stuff, media articles, (James Espey) The fifth issue of _Rolling Stone_
for the year of 1983. *DeLorean Talks: an Exclusive Interview by Aaron (Latham?)*
Back then, RS had two things on the cover, the picture of the celebrity du jour
and the meaty story. This issue had Jessica Lange on the cover. If anyone has
the text of this article, please contact me.
Eric
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From: dgf108@psu.edu (Damien Falato)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 09:45:52 -0500
Subject: parts for sale
O.K., because of lack of interest on some of the items I have had for sale I
have decided to discount them. Since I advertised here first I am giving the
members of the mailing list first chance at these parts before I advertise in
Delorean World.
Catalitic converters=quantity of 3,
was 260.00, now 200.00, retail at 495.00
Luggage Racks=quantity of 4
was 80.00, now 50.00, retail at 245.00
parts at the same prices as before
1 carbon canister=retail at 70.00, my price 25.00 1 cigarete lighter=retail at 25.00, my price 10.00
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From: "Murray Fisher"
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 09:41:54 -0800
Subject: Recent DeLorean prices from Old Cars Weekly.
In two recent issues of Old Cars Weekly were listing of Deloreans sold or for
sale as follows:
Dec 12 Sold at Kruse Auction, Dallas
Condition
81 painted red $6000 3
81 6700 3
81 7400 3
81 12750 2
Sold at Zephyrhills, Fla
81 13000 2
Dec 19 P. 19 For Sale
81 5 spd black upholstery, runs good, scruffy $8900
81 5 spd black upholstery, excellent 12500
For what its worth department!!!
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From: CDIUSAMPS@aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 01:32:34 -0500
Subject: 1982 DMC-12 For Sale
Just passing this info along: 1982 Delorean , 5 speed, late production model,
42K miles, polished wheels, new tires, new alternator, centerforce clutch, steel
clutch line, complete new brake job, new A/C compressor, steel radiator, sheepskin
covers, new shock absorbers, new motorola alternator, etc, etc. Also includes,
11'X3' original dealer sign, complete ignition lock set and extra original windshield.
Price: $21,500.00. The owner of this vehicle also has a large inventory of new parts
he is willing to sell. Please call Steve at (910)778-0369. Please DO NOT E-MAIL ME.
I am just passing on this info for a friend.
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From: STANDLOR@aol.com
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:58:03 -0500
Subject: Re: Delorean Value
In a message dated 96-12-31 08:35:27 EST, you write:
<< take it to a automotive place and get them to fix
it or would I have to send it to a special delorean shop? >> JASON - IF YOU HAVE
ANY MECHANICAL ABILITY THEN BUY A DELOREAN. BUT IF YOU DO NOT AND DO NOT LIVE IN
THE AREAS OF A TRUE DELOREAN REPAIR PLACE HAVE TREPIDATIONS! THERE IS PLENTY OF
HELP AVAILABLE FROM SEVERAL RESPECTABLE DELOREAN REPAIR PLACES (CALIF, N.Y, TEXAS,
FLA) BUT IN MOST OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTRY THE "FIXES" ARE A DASTARDLY THING. I
USUALLY USE THE DELOREAN REPAIR MANUALS AND THE PARTS PLACES TO FIX THE CAR MYSELF
IN MOST CASES. AND IN THE OTHER CASES, HAVE THE MECHANICS TALK TO THE DELOREAN
PEOPLE AT ABOVE PLACES BEFORE THEY TOUCH MY CAR SO THAT THEY KNOW SOMEWHAT WHAT
THEY ARE DOING. THEN I WATCH THEM LIKE A HAWK.
STAN
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From: "Mr. THX"
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 23:22:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: 1982 DMC-12 For Sale
Wow,
The car seems to be in the same shape as mine and I paid $11.9k for it. Anyone want
to buy mine for $21k? :)
Mike
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 09:51:02 -0500
Subject: Re: Drag coefficient?
Justin Gassaway asked:
>What is the drag coefficient of the Delorean?
The article "Steel Dreamin'" in the Oct 13, 1984 Motor magazine reprinted in
"The DeLorean 1977-1993" reported:
" . . . good soundproofing and a virtual lack of wind noise thanks to the
(DeLorean) car's impressive 0.33 drag coefficient."
I think I have seen other numbers used. If anyone wants to make sure by sticking
their DeLorean into a wind tunnel I'm sure it would make a great article in
DeLorean World.
- -Mike Substelny
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From: James Espey
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 97 10:28:33 -0000
Subject: DMC tie and/or tie pin
Does anyone have either or both of these items? Or, if you have them, how much
did you have to pay for them? Though an item like this obviously has a rather
subjective value, I'd like to get a ballpark idea how rare (or common) they are
and what the "going rate" is for them.
James
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From: LufkinXC@aol.com
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 17:26:48 -0500
Subject: DeLorean Survey
Hello, my name is Jason and I just have a very short survey, 1 question in fact.
Please respond by E-Mailing me personally at LufkinXC@AOL.com Here is the question:
If you own a DeLorean or ever have owned a DeLorean, did you use it as an every day
car? I'm asking this because I wish to buy one for everyday use and want to see, if
the DeLorean owners do as well. Please respond by E-Mailing me personally.
Thank you. - -Jason
LufkinXC@AOL.com
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From: Advanced Book Exchange, abe@abebooks.com Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 11:44:55
-0500 (EST) Subject: ABE want matches
FYI:
Your Want: Keywords: delorean
Has been matched with the following book(s):
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View the book description and ordering information at
http://www.abebooks.com/cgi/abe.exe/routera^_pr=oi^_ph=1^_bi=910974
DELOREAN by DeLorean, John Z.
Zondervan,1985,1st
keywords: Bio/delorean
NF, NF dj, p/c [2/6/94 geo]
The price of the book is US$ 10 Please reference the seller's book # 396 when ordering.
The seller is Eileen Serxner at P.O. BOX 2544, BALA CYNWYD, PA, USA, 19004 Email
them at serxner@erols.com., phone them at 610-664-7960., fax them at 610-664-1940.
Their conditions of sale are; Check With Order. 7 Day Return if not as described.
Shipping: $3.00 1st book; $1.00 each additional book-USA.
This mail was created 01/03/1997 06:01:29 AM and postmarked 01/03/1997 06:21:18 AM
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From: Ddl52@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 20:05:50 -0500
Subject: Delorean Book Sale
I have some remaining copies of John Delorean's autobiography. On my earlier
post there was some confusion about my E-mail addresss. My correct address
is DDL52@aol.com. The books are as they came from the publisher,shrinkwrapped
in mint condition. These books are NOT used. (Perfect for getting autographed)
Price: 25.00 which includes shipping. Please reply if interested. E-mail at DDL52@aol.com.
Sincerely, Dennis Listenberger
2802 Ferguson Rd.
Fort Wayne, Indiana 46809
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From: CarlIanNew@aol.com
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 01:01:42 -0500
Subject: headliners and front/rear nose cone paint
There was previously several postings regarding how to replace your headliners.
I have removed the panels and old liners and would like to see the posting(s)
again about the material used and glue used to afix the material to the panels.
I am having the front/rear nose cones repainted. Does anyone know the best/easiest
way to remove the paint from the front and read nose cones without damaging the
plastic? Certainly there is some stripper out there which works but does not
deteriorate the plastic.
Thanks in advance.
Carl Newman
DMC #1704
DOA #5138
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From: Duke Bladorn
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 16:15:36 -0600
Subject: DeLorean for Sale
1981 DeLorean for sale. Automatic w/ black interior, all upgrades, ground
effect package w/ rear wing (looks like Harry Ward's ) 98,000 miles, massive
Alpine stereo system w/ alarm. Driven daily and always garaged. Lots of DeLorean
World magazines and manuals plus some spare parts. Getting divorced is the only
reason I'm selling it. $24,000 obo. Serious inquries
only please!!!!
Thanks,
Duke Bladorn
duke@entremob.com
(334)-457-3580
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From: "Michael E. Gaines" Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 08:12:59 -0500
Subject: Headlight replacement?
Hi all,
My passenger side headlight burned out. Is there a common replacement that I can
get at my local auto parts emporium, or is it DeLorean specific? I'd like to pick
it up on the way home.
Mike
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From: Mike702863@aol.com
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 17:17:40 -0500
Subject: DeLorean Poster
Does anyone know where I can get a good poster of a DeLorean? (other than the
one offered on this list, i mean) I'd also like to know a good place close to
the NJ area that would have DeLorean parts or whole cars for sale. Any advice
would be appreciated.
Mike
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 10:16:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Delorean Poster / Headliner
POSTER
>Does anyone know where I can get a good poster of a DeLorean? (other than the
one offered on this list, i mean)
I have never seen a better poster depicting the DeLorean sports car than the one
offered on the DML. However, last year Kapac had a nifty poster available that was
displayed at DMC dealer showrooms. I don't know if Kapac still has these or not,
but they were designed to make the car seem exciting, not to give you a good look
at it like the DML poster does. The Kapac poster looked like a collage of newspaper
headlines about John DeLorean and DMC with the front end of the car smashing
through in the middle. It was a *very* large poster.
HEADLINER
>I have removed the panels and old liners and would like to see the posting(s)
again about the material used and glue . . .
This should be in the back issues, as it has come up repeatedly in the past. I
believe the glue is contact cement, and the material of choice is a cloth with
foam already attached. You can get exact match material from the same sources as
other DeLorean parts. Any automotive upholstery shop will have a close approximation
but *not* an exact match.
- -Mike Substelny
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From: James Espey
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 97 08:38:55 -0000
Subject: Happy Birthday John Z.!
Yes, today's the day! If you didn't mail a card to him last week, you should start
looking for a "belated" birthday card. If memory serves, he was born in 1925, so
that would make him 72 this year. Though of you so inclined should note that his
address is still available on the DMC-News home page.
James
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From: Knut S Grimsrud Date: Mon, 06 Jan 97 08:35:00 PST
Subject: Happy Birthday John Z.
John Z. DeLorean turns 72 today 1/6/97. Just thought someone might find the
tidbit interesting.
Knut
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From: Mike Asher
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:19:14 -0600
Subject: RE: DeLorean for Sale
Excluding the ground effects, I've seen 81's with half the miles for half the price.
Am I missing something here?
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From: Duke Bladorn[SMTP:duke@entremob.com] Sent: Sunday, January 05, 1997 4:16 PM
To: dmcnews@world.std.com
Subject: DeLorean for Sale
1981 DeLorean for sale. Automatic w/ black interior, all upgrades, ground
effect package w/ rear wing (looks like Harry Ward's ) 98,000 miles, massive
Alpine stereo system w/ alarm. Driven daily and always garaged. Lots of DeLorean World
magazines and manuals plus some spare parts. Getting divorced is the only reason I'm
selling it. $24,000 obo. Serious inquries
only please!!!!
Thanks,
Duke Bladorn
duke@entremob.com
(334)-457-3580
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