DeLorean Mailing List - 1/8/97
dmcnews-digest Wednesday, 8 January 1997 Volume 02 : Number 205
In this issue:
New Owner (virtually)
Latest Issue Of DeLorean World
RE: DeLorean for Sale
Tips for New Owner (virtually)
Re: New Owner (virtually)
AMEX Gold DeLorean
Re: headliners and front/rear nose cone paint
Re: Tips for New Owner (virtually)
Re: Delorean Poster / Headliner
Re: Headlight replacement?
Delorean sounds
Re: Latest Issue Of DeLorean World
DMC price levels
Greetings All
Delorean
Re: Tips for new owner (lowering)
Re: DeLorean Poster
Re: Headlight replacement?
Re: DMC price levels
JZD's Rolling Stone interview
Re: headlights
Re: DMC price levels
re:DMC price levels
Greetings All -Reply
Re: re:DMC price levels
Re: Delorean sounds
Re: Tips for new owner (lowering)
Aspen
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From: Michael Fischer Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 12:41:21 -0700
Subject: New Owner (virtually)
Howdy Everyone,
Well, I finally made the big leap and purchased a DeLorean. (well more or less,
I've made the down payment and have the keys, but won't get the car 'til there's
no more snow on the roads.)
She's a pristine 1983 D, Canadian model (block heater, metric speedo etc.) with
the grey interior and a 5-speed with 16K miles on her. VIN DD17106 born in
September of 1982.
As far as is known, she's pure from the factory, which means I have some upgrades
etc. to do. What would everyone suggest for the upgrades and specifically which
are the more important for more immediate drivability?
She's has been sitting for a while, so I'm concerned about the fuel degradation
problem etc. is there an easy method to drain the tank and lines?
Additionally, what is your opinions on draining and changing the coolant, brake
fluid etc.?
Thanx.
- --
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|___________| Michael.Fischer@pipe.nova.ca |____________|
| "No one with a good car needs to be justified." |
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From: Michael Fischer Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 12:35:13 -0700
Subject: Latest Issue Of DeLorean World
I recall a couple of mailing lists ago, someone mentionned about the new issue of
DeLorean World. Is that issue out yet, I see a different issue then the last one
I got at the DOA homepage.
I have had problems with the $!@#!@# post office messing up mail delivery before,
and I'm curious if they sent my DeLorean World somewhere hence or what. The last
issue I received was Vol 13, Number 3. The DeLorean in Hawii issue, anyone have
newer ones?
- --
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|___________| Michael.Fischer@pipe.nova.ca |____________|
| "No one with a good car needs to be justified." |
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From: "David Jacobs (Volt Computer)" Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 12:10:55 -0800
Subject: RE: DeLorean for Sale
I recently found an 81 auto/black interior with 25k on it going for $10k.
Has the re-sale value gone up or something??
Dave...
>----------
>From: Mike Asher
>Sent: Monday, January 06, 1997 11:19 AM To: dmcnews@world.std.com
>Subject: RE: DeLorean for Sale
>Excluding the ground effects, I've seen 81's with half the miles for half the price. Am I missing something here?
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>From: Duke Bladorn[SMTP:duke@entremob.com] Sent: Sunday, January 05, 1997 4:16 PM
>To: dmcnews@world.std.com
>Subject: DeLorean for Sale
>1981 DeLorean for sale. Automatic w/ black interior, all upgrades, ground
>effect package w/ rear wing (looks like Harry Ward's ) 98,000 miles, massive
>Alpine stereo system w/ alarm. Driven daily and always garaged. Lots of
DeLorean World magazines and manuals plus some spare parts. Getting divorced
is the only reason I'm selling it. $24,000 obo. Serious inquries
>only please!!!!
>Thanks,
>Duke Bladorn
>duke@entremob.com
>(334)-457-3580
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 15:58:11 -0500
Subject: Tips for New Owner (virtually)
Michael Fischer said:
>Well, I finally made the big leap and purchased a DeLorean.
Congratulations, Michael. (Geez a lot of DeLorean owners seem to have this name!
We should do a survey . . .)
>What would everyone suggest for the upgrades and specifically which are the more
important for more immediate drivability?
Various electrical upgrades may solve the most annoyances the quickest. If you
don't have the fan-fail bypass then do that first, or get a Fanzilla. If your
dome lights are kaput those are also easy to upgrade. You can do the center consol
light bypass, too, and maybe other electrical improvements described in the DML
back issues.
If your car doesn't have them you might consider the door guides (although I still
haven't put mine in due to the car being in winter storage, I expect them to make
a big difference in the spring). If you don't like the way your locks work then
consider a Lockzilla. If your fuel gauge gives you fits then consider a Tankzilla.
None of these really effects driveability, but sooner or later they may all drive
you nuts.
As far as mechanical upgrades, I highly recommend a stainless clutch hydraulic line
instead of the polymer line. It makes driving a 5-speed *much* more pleasurable. If
you expect to install a clutch in a year or so you might consider doing them at the
same time. If you find that the car works fine while cold but you can't shift right
when it's hot then you need the stainless hydraulic line.
Actually, others on the DML have reported that upgrading the clutch itself also
makes a world of difference. I believe they recommended a Certerforce model (see
back issues for details). Both the clutch and hydro line *will* effect driveability.
Upgrading your tires can make a big difference in driveability, too. Many people like
to lower the car, but that is mostly cosmetic.
Becuase you car is an '83 you may not need some of the other upgrades that come to
mind (radio antenna, radio, etc) so you should probably consult someone else. If I
were in your position I would talk to Jerry at Kapac first, then talk to Stephen
Wynn, Rob Grady, Ed Bernstein, Dave Bauerle, Don Steiger, or whoever you prefer for
a second opinion.
>. . . is there an easy method to drain the tank and lines?
That's a good question! I have always assumed that there was no easy way to drain
the tank while it was in the car, but if anyone has a creative suggestion I would
love to hear it!
- -Mike Substelny
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From: STANDLOR@aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 03:16:06 -0500
Subject: Re: New Owner (virtually)
In a message dated 97-01-06 15:06:03 EST, you write:
<< She's has been sitting for a while, so I'm concerned about
the fuel degradation problem etc. is there an easy method to drain the tank and lines?
Additionally, what is your opinions on draining and changing the coolant, brake fluid etc.? >>
Mazol Mike- wellcome to the group - now make sure you join the club, it is
very important for your information and preservation of the Delorean. I also
own a 83 which means - many of the updates should have been done already at
the factory. However, check to make sure the modules have been updated with
a COMPLETE module kit. Secondly is the changing of the water return tank to
the right of the engine compartment. Make sure that the tank has been replaced
with a metel one and is not the origional plastic. Check for the installallation
of the steel braided clutch line which comes off the master
clutch cylinder just inboard of the drivers side tire and goes to the slave
cylinder. These are the Most important changes that should be done. Call D1
or DMC for further info. But these things you do, dont wait. As far as gas
emptying goes, pretty difficult without getting into the gas tank area itself
which is a semi major job for most owners unless your mechanicially inclined.
Get some good additives and add it to the gas tank
to keep the gas from fouling. If you don't know when, then change the oil (make
sure to get the origianal filters, and seals for the oil pan drain plug, new
fuel filter, change the plugs, rotor and dist. cap. To get at the
last you'll need an "O" ring kit as well for the manifold as that has to be
removed to get at the dist. cap and rotor, and its much easier to change wires,
& plugs with it out. All the poop is in Delorean World if you get back issues.
Lots of luck
Standlor
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From: James Espey
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 97 14:15:48 -0000
Subject: AMEX Gold DeLorean
I went to the National Automobile Museum in Reno the week before last, specifically
with the intention of seeing the gold-plated DeLorean on display there, and I was
not disappointed.
The museum is broken up into four different galleries, according to the era in
which the car was produced, with the DeLorean being in the last gallery. The gold
DeLorean is breathtaking, and no photos I have seen compare to actually being up
close to it. The gold plating allows the brushed finish of the stainless to show
through, much like the process that was being attempted with the tinted clear
coats that were under development with DuPont and DMC. Aside from a layer of dust,
the outside of the car was gorgeous.
I had made some previous arrangements with a museum staffer to get a closer look
than is normally allowed, so I can also report on the interior and engine comaprtment,
two areas of the cars that are generally closed. This car has a brown interior, and
in my opinion, is ugly. It's a "bright" brown, as opposed to a darker saddle brown,
and really looks, well, cheesy. I understand the other AMEX gold car
(http://bigtexas.com/dmc/) has a black interior and is an automatic. The car needs
struts all the way around as well as new headliners, and a good dusting on the inside,
too. The Reno car is a five speed. The engine compartment is all stock, and very clean.
The undercarriage is flawless and looks like new, which can be expected as the car has
but 1444.6 miles on the odometer.
Perhaps someone from the area can tell me how the museum weathered the flood last week?
James Espey
Poster Purveyor
http://www.goodnet.com/~mikasa/poster.html
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From: STANDLOR@aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 02:48:25 -0500
Subject: Re: headliners and front/rear nose cone paint
Carl- sending this on DMnew for all to see. Just finished doing what you were
commenting about on the headliner. Call your local auto supply stores (
if you have a Pep Boys handy- they have it) and see if they have a product called
"Heads Up". What this is -is a headliner material which comes in various colors and
the medium gray is a perfect match for the Delorean. One
bag plus one can of the glue which is sold with it will finish the whole interior
-4 pieces.
make sure you have a good tape handy as I found it was best to tape the overlap
pieces in place after overlapping about one inch. Trying to cut it
closer just caused trouble and the piece had to be redone. Also have a good
clean soft towell handy as it is just great to use to try to push the material
into the depressions so that they will stick. DO NOT USE A STEAM IRON! I tried
thinking that it would better conform to the deep depression
of the head room. It melts the foam!!!
My next project is the front end. Someone keep me informed as to how to strip and
paint the plastic. Also, I understand there are two different paint formulas. Which
one is best.
Standlor
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From: raddad@cmn.net
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:06:18 -0700
Subject: Re: Tips for New Owner (virtually)
>Michael Fischer said:
>>Well, I finally made the big leap and purchased a DeLorean.
*****BIG SNIP*****
>Upgrading your tires can make a big difference in driveability, too. Many people
like to lower the car, but that is mostly cosmetic.
Everything Mike said is right on. However, as one who drove his car for 5 years
before he had it lowered ( 8 years ago), let me assure you that the lowering is
more than cosmetic. It actually affects handling - --positively!
As I understand it, the car was intended to be lower and at the last minute, JZD
had to put different springs on it to meet the U.S. safety standards (i.e., bring
the front end up - which also required the rear end to be raised as well or the car
would look like it was going uphill). Euro
springs brought the car lower, and much more like the way it was designed.
BTW, there are two disadvantages to the lowered cars --the obivious is speed bumps.
The less obvious creeps up on you as you get older -- it is a
bit more difficult to exit the vehicle.
Dick Ryan
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From: STANDLOR@aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 02:55:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Delorean Poster / Headliner
In a message dated 97-01-06 10:36:24 EST, you write:
<< >Does anyone know where I can get a good poster
oof a DeLorean? (other than the one offered on this list, i mean) >>
CONTACT JOHN TRUSCUTT OF THE DELOREAN OWNERS ASSOCIATION IN SANTA BARBARA.
HE HAD SOME NIFTY POSTERS AND PRICED RIGHT. standlor
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From: STANDLOR@aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 02:51:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Headlight replacement?
In a message dated 97-01-06 08:25:12 EST, you write:
<< My passenger side headlight burned out. Is there a common replacement
Do it on the way home. Delorean headlight is standard replacement. What I
have done is get a halogen standard to get more light. Simple job of replacement.
Just tell the auto parts guy the numbers on your lens. Standlor
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From: jason74@juno.com (Jason T Brown)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:31:36 PST
Subject: Delorean sounds
Could someone send me a file of how a delorean sounds? SEND IT TO ME ON AMERICA
ONLINE. I CAN"T RECEIVE FILES THROUGH JUNO.
Jason
DieHard14@aol.com
PS. I mean how it sounds when you rev the engine.
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From: STANDLOR@aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 03:34:46 -0500
Subject: Re: Latest Issue Of DeLorean World
In a message dated 97-01-06 15:05:56 EST, you write:
<< The last issue I received was
Vol 13, Number 3. The DeLorean in Hawii issue, anyone have newer ones? >>
Mike- Sorry to tell you - but the latest issue is Vol 13 No 4 which I received
about 3 weeks ago. Came in plastic shrink wrap which is pretty fancy for our club.
Cover is a Delorean in front of a mansion in Nashville.
Contact the postmaster and raise caine.
Standlor
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From: dgf108@psu.edu (Damien Falato)
Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 07:13:48 -0500
Subject: DMC price levels
Look guys, gals and any other category that might be reading this. I think
we have established that price fixing DMCs at inflated values simply will not work
and is a mute point. However, posting lists of DMCs that sell for
6-12K and adding in posts of how a large ammount of us seem to have paid 10-15K
for our cars creates an immage of lower value to any one reading. This is especially
true when owners are allready recieving prices ranging from 17-25K for thier cars.
I am not trying to artificially raise the value of my vehicle, I know what it is
worth (it was apraised about 2 years ago),but I would like to keep it from
depreciating. Recent incidents on wall street have indicated how much internet
discussion can sway ecconomics. We do own an amazing automobile, let's not lower
it's value by creating a false impression of the level of thier price range and
what each person should pay for one by continually listing vehicles that have sold
in thier sub-basement price range.
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From: "Nick Storr" Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 23:26:54 +1100
Subject: Greetings All
Hello to all DMC News subscribers.
This is just a brief post to introduce myself.
My name's Nick Storr, I'm 19 and live in Tasmania (The southernmost state in
Australia). Down here DeLoreans are about $100,000 which kinda sucks. A bit too
rich for me. :(
Anyway, I've been looking at a few options. Building a lookalike (not too popular
with people I've discussed it with and, admittedly, hard to do well), importing a
whole car from the US and getting it RHD converted (worthy of consideration, but
I'd probably be taxed twice the price of the car to import it) and a combination
of the two (finding a damaged DMC with body panels intact, importing that and
using it as the basis for a kind of DMC hybrid thingie!)
The third one was only suggested to me tonight, and I'm thinking about it. If
anyone knows of any cars for sale matching the above description, or any
other thoughts on the matter, I'd like to hear about them.
This has all gotten a bit specific for an introductory post... sorry!
Anyway, pleased to be a part of DMC News and nice to meet you all!
Nick Storr
nick_storr@onaustralia.com.au
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From: Marc Levy
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 08:49:40 -0500
Subject: Delorean
You Write:
I'd also like to know a good place close to the NJ area that would have = DeLorean
parts or whole cars for sale. Any advice would be appreciated.
Mike,
PJ Grady is in Long Island. I live in central NJ, and it takes 2-3 = hours to
drive there. =20 They are friendly, knowledgeable, and reasonable. Too bad they
only = work on DeLoreans! I purchased my car through them. If you are looking to
buy a car, give = Rob a call and see if he knows of any for sale (as I did). He
hooked me = up with his customer who was looking to sell, and gave me the
complete = service history of the car, along with a list of problems he had
found = on the car while in service.
Good luck,
Marc
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 09:16:10 -0500
Subject: Re: Tips for new owner (lowering)
Dick Ryan said:
>. . . let me assure you that the lowering is more than cosmetic. It actually
affects handling --positively!
I was tempted to make this claim, however I have heard from Corvette and Porsche
enthusiasts that lowering is a serious project on any car. They tell me that done
improperly it can make handling worse. I wouldn't want someone to install the wrong
springs or throw my car off kilter by doing a lousy job. But I expect that a
*properly* lowered DeLorean would have improved handling.
>As I understand it, the car was intended to be lower and at the last minute, JZD
had to put different springs on it to meet the U.S. safety standards . . .
I have heard the same thing, and it sounds perferctly logical to me. The factory
springs definitely make the stock DeLorean look taller than the original DMC-12
prototypes. (Get "The DeLorean 1977-1993" from DOA & see p 6, 26, & 30 for pictures
that make this obvious). The car seems to be designed with that height in mind, thus
I do believe that properly lowered DeLoreans probably handle better than stock
DeLoreans.
- -Mike Substelny
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From: James Espey
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 97 06:58:06 -0000
Subject: Re: DeLorean Poster
>Does anyone know where I can get a good poster of a DeLorean? (other than the one
offered on this list, i mean)
Before I made the poster that is available on the list, I searched for DeLorean
posters high and low, and couldn't find anything that met my rather "strict"
criteria (size, color, good photo, price) though I did find the poster listed below,
and I owe a BIG THANKS to Dave Swingle for emailing me with the URL again. I
looked all day yesterday for it and could not find it until Dave sent me this URL.
http://www.autotrend.com/111.html
James "Mikasa" Espey
Purveyor of the Poster
http://www.goodnet.com/~mikasa/poster.html
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From: James Espey
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 97 07:18:53 -0000
Subject: Re: Headlight replacement?
>>My passenger side headlight burned out. Is there a common replacement
>Do it on the way home. Delorean headlight is standard replacement. What I have
done is get a halogen standard to get more light. Simple job of replacement. Just
tell the auto parts guy the numbers on your lens.
Well, yes and no. Someone on the list made mention some time ago that the Sylvania
headlights have changed in cosmetic appearance since the DeLorean was introduced.
Therefore, if you are interested in keeping your car
completely original (spoken like a concours person), original lights must be found.
I know that KAPAC had A LOT of these still available when I was there in October.
James
With visions of Concours and Aspen dancing in my head...
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From: Mike Gaines Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:28:21 -0500
(EST) Subject: Re: DMC price levels
Hi,
WHy shouldn't we keep the prices fair? I wouldn't have my DeLorean if it was $10k
more. If the cars' prices get raised, then why not parts? Why not service? WHy not
the DOA subscription? I just don't see why making believe the car is worth more
makes any sense. I paid $11,900 for my car and I don't hink it's worth mor than $15k.
I'd never make believe that it was worth $25k.
Mike
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From: James Espey
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 97 07:48:48 -0000
Subject: JZD's Rolling Stone interview
I went hunting for the back issueof Rolling Stone last night, having heard of
it before and just reminded of it again from someone on the list. I looked through
literally sixteen boxes of old RS mags, and it was the bottom one, in the sixteenth
box. I will spend some time this week and either OCR or re-type the 6 page article.
For those who want their own copy, it's Issue #391, March 17, 1983 and it does
indeed have Jessica Lange on the cover.
James "Mikasa" Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com New for '97 - http://www.dmcnews.com/
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 09:32:47 -0500
Subject: Re: headlights
Standlor said:
>What I have done is get a halogen standard to get more light.
All DeLoreans originally came with Sylvania halogen headlights. This was at the
time when halogen headlights first came out and Sylvania boasted about DeLorean's
selection of them as an endorsement of the merits of halogen. Pictures of the
DeLorean Sports Car can be seen in Sylvania magazine ads from the early '80s.
I believe Kapac still has a stock of unused ORIGINAL Sylvania halogen headlights
from the DeLorean factory. I got a pair last year. Today's standard halogen
headlights fit perfectly, but I think the glass looks slightly different.
- -Mike Substelny
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From: Mike702863@aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:50:28 -0500
Subject: Re: DMC price levels
Just wondering.... Is there any other way to subscribe to DeLorean World without
being a member of the DOA? I don't own a DeLorean (yet), but I'd like
to get this magazine and do some research on the car before I purchase one.
Thanks for any advice.
Mike
1984 Monte Carlo SS
198_ DeLorean (someday)
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From: "Jeff Phillips, x4300" Date: Tue, 7 Jan 97 12:59:31 MST
Subject: re:DMC price levels
>However, posting lists of DMCs that sell for 6-12K and adding in posts of how a
large ammount of us seem to have paid 10-15K for our cars creates an immage of
lower value to any one reading.
>Recent incidents on wall street have indicated how much internet discussion can
sway ecconomics. We do own an amazing automobile, let's not lower it's value by
creating a false impression of the level of thier price range and what each person
should pay for one by continually listing vehicles that have sold in thier
sub-basement price range.
I don't see how this is creating a false impression of the cost of a DeLorean.
How does posting actual, real life asking prices for cars create anything but a
realistic image. Lets face it, you get what you pay
for and I'm sure that if I spent 20K for DeLorean I would get a nicer car than if
I paid 10K. The fact is DeLoreans range in price any where from 10K up to 22K or
more, which makes it one of the few unique cars that is available to a large range
of people. In the long run, this is good for the car because there are more people
out there that can afford to purchase it and restore them, thus preserving them
longer. Its been said before that if you're looking for a sound financial investment
then a DeLorean is
probably not a good idea. If you're looking for a DeLorean then its affordable, its
yours and who cares what anyone else thinks its worth just hang on to it.
Jeff Phillips
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From: Greg DELIOS Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 08:53:51 +1030
Subject: Greetings All -Reply
Hi Nick,
I'm in Melbourne (a little further north for those in the northern hemispshere)
and have also been considering purchase of a Dolerean. I have considered both the
conversion method as well as purchase of a right hand drive from the UK.
By my reckoning, heres the balance: purchase of a LHD car $9k - $20k AUS, cartage
$2k AUS inc insurance, export licence inc export agent- unknown cost, import duty
and sales tax $7k - $14k (import duty + sales tax = ~75% of purchase price for a
car < 30 yrs old). RHD conversion - I don't know if anyone in AUS could do it,
perhaps Boeing / ASTA in Melbourne (they have experience with stainless steel and
composites etc). Could be quite pricey, i'd expect anything up to $10k AUS. I am
unsure if RHD conversion is available in the US (other readers may be able to help).
I do understand the conversion can be done in the UK. This requires shipping to the
UK adding another $2k AUS to the cost. This would also increase the duty payable,
as the import duty / sales tax is payable on the purchase price and modifications!
Then there is the cost of ADR (Australian Design Rules) compliance check and
possible mod. I am unsure how this works particularily if the RHD conversion is
done offshore.
Thus the total would be in the order of $60k AUS. + ADR compliance costs (phew).
As I indicated, I have thought about purchasing a car in the UK. There are only 24
RHD factory cars in existence. 36 were manufactured with 12 being used in qual
testing. I think most of these cars were full factory cars ie the rolling chasis
was not sent off elsewhere for finishing .
Prices for these I have seen range from $60k to $100k AUS. Import duty of 75% again
plus shipping costs a total of $105k to $175k AUS. At least there are no ADR
problems as there are no mods, plus there are only a limited number of true RHD
I know the prices are not good either way, when you see some of the prices in the
messages posted here! Perhaps there are RHD cars in Japan which may be cheaper?
I don't know about Tassie, but here in Victoria you cannot have a LHD vehicle
registered (ie You can't leave the car LHD).
I hope I haven't scared you off.But it has put my purchase off a few years though.
All the best, and if you find an easier (read cheaper) method of getting a
car th Australia then let me know.
Cheers,
Greg.
(PS - there is a Delorean in Western Australia, don't know any more than that)
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From: raddad@cmn.net
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 06:30:06 -0700
Subject: Re: re:DMC price levels
Jeff Phillips said: You get what you pay for.
See, they do teach practical things at the Air Force Academy. I couldn't agree
more. There may in fact be a very few $10-15K Deloreans out there that are "super
buys", but I suspect the really good ones are in the $18-22K range.
In any event, I, too, think that discussion of the DeLorean as an investment is
a waste of time. While I know some people get a high from just owning something
that others do not, my high comes from *driving* a truly unique vehicle that is
a great touring machine.
BTW, Jeff, I have been trying to contact you directly but your mailbox is full.
Please advise.
Dick Ryan
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From: Phillip124@aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:59:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Delorean sounds
I would like to get a sound file too. Who know what a good running engine on
a Delorean is supposed to sound like without hearing one.
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From: STANDLOR@aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:17:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Tips for new owner (lowering)
In a message dated 97-01-07 09:25:15 EST, SUBSTEM@cesmtp.ccf.org (Mike Substelny)
writes:
<< thus I do believe that
properly lowered DeLoreans probably handle better than stock DeLoreans. >>
Mike- see my comment on lowering. I lived with it for a long time, and went
thru 4 sets of tires in 6 years, none of which were covered by warrentee since
they all wore unevenly. These were the NXT's , michillens, and Yokahamas, all V
rated. You want to lower your car, great! I'd like to sell
you a set of springs I just happened to have in my garage at at reasonable price
along with instructions on how to install them. I wrote the instructions by the
way quite a few years ago for the fella who was selling
the springs. Understand you are from Ohio- Cleveland? I was president of the
Ohio group for about 5 years.
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From: Kevin MacDougall Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 21:52:40 -0500
Subject: Aspen
Okay before I start i want to let you guys know that this may sound crazy but I just
have to ask. My name is Kevin MacDougall and I have been a subscriber for about 1.5
years(roughly) I wanted to know if anybody in or near CT is planning to drive to
the Expo in Aspen in August if so would anybody like a passenger. I am 16 an A and
B's student at a catholic all boys high school and an internet and Delorean freak
I would love to go to the Expo I would be happy to pay my way and chip in for gas
and stuff like that I just want to go and I feel it would be a better experience
to ride there in a D than fly on a stupid jet... Everybody has seen a plane before..
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Kevin MacDougall VP of the WDOA (Wanna-Be Delorean Owner)
Kevinmac@iconn.net JZD
http://www.iconn.net/kevinmac DMC-12
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