DeLorean Mailing List - 1/11/97


dmcnews-digest	Saturday, 11 January 1997	Volume 02 : Number 206

In this issue:
Re: Tips for New Owner (virtually)
Re: DMC price levels
KAPAC Parts Cars
Re: DeLorean World
Re: DMC price levels
Re: Tips for new owner (lowering)
Re: KAPAC Parts Cars
RE: KAPAC Parts Cars
"Eyebrows"
Cross reference #'s
Re: DMC price levels
Re: Delorean sounds
Reliability
Rust inhibitor
RE: DeLorean One Cars (was KAPAC Parts Cars)
ADMIN NOTE: Undeliverable messages
DeLorean being parted out...
Delorean Model
Re: New Owner (virtually)
Re: New Owner (virtually)
DMC Prices
Tom Long?
Motor Makers in Ireland
ABE want matches
fuel starvation
Report on "DeLorean bring parted out"
value
DeLorean prices
Specialty Automotive Returns

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From: STANDLOR(AT)aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:37:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Tips for New Owner (virtually) 

In a message dated 97-01-07 08:36:22 EST, raddad(AT)cmn.net writes: 

<< However, as one who drove his car for 5 
years before he had it lowered ( 8 years ago), let me assure you that the lowering 
is more than cosmetic. It actually affects handling --positively! >>

Hey guys, I can't believe what I see. The difference in height is about 1 1/2 to 3 
inches, depending on how the car is lowered. I lowered my car about
ten years ago and thought it looked cool, until just after the Buffalo convention 
- when driving over the Peace Bridge on the way to Toronto- I encountered a hub cap 
from and American fancy car. My car had 3 1/2 inches
of road clearance loaded, and the hub cap was 4 3/4 inches thick. I thought
I was going to tear out the bottom of my car and one doesn't stop on a freeway 
especially when it is a bridge does one? Wrong! I did stop and almost caused a 
major accident and pile up as the cars slammed on their brakes behind me as I 
removed the hub from my chassis Also, I found you wear
out your tires like crazy since you cannot really align the front or rear end
properly. Camber and caster are affected which of course are not adjustable
on the Delorean! I spent the better part of a week putting the original springs 
back on my car, and find it looks just as good, handles just as good,
is as much fun to drive every day, and now will not cost me extra for tires
since the front and rear are correctly aligned. Guys , the story of the lowered 
car was just that - a story! There has never been any documentation
on the raising of the bumper, but if you ever get involved in a collision with 
another vehicle and your bumpers are lower than his look out! Standlor


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From: "Marvin S. Sterling"  Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 04:07:20 -0800
Subject: Re: DMC price levels

Damien Falato wrote:

>Look guys, gals and any other category that might be reading this. I think
>we have established that price fixing DMCs at inflated values simply will not 
work and is a mute point. However, posting lists of DMCs that sell for
>6-12K and adding in posts of how a large ammount of us seem to have paid 10-15K 
for our cars creates an immage of lower value to any one reading. This is 
especially true when owners are allready recieving prices ranging from 17-25K 
for thier cars. I am not trying to artificially raise the value
>of my vehicle, I know what it is worth (it was apraised about 2 years ago),
>but I would like to keep it from depreciating. Recent incidents on wall street 
have indicated how much internet discussion can sway ecconomics. We
>do own an amazing automobile, let's not lower it's value by creating a false
>impression of the level of thier price range and what each person should pay
>for one by continually listing vehicles that have sold in thier sub-basement
>price range.
- --------------------------------------- Well said !
I no longer use my D as a daily driver and have it insured for a specific sum ( 
what the company will pay if it is stolen etc. ) The company insuring the car set 
a value of $20,000 ... it is an '83 5 speed with 31,000 miles on it. I am going 
to assume that the insurance company knows what it is doing otherwise why would 
they put 20K on the line if it is totalled, stolen or otherwise destroyed. If 
anyone got a "deal"( for whatever reason ) when they bought their D then good 
for you, obviously the seller either needed the cash, was selling an other than 
pristine car, or simply didn't know what the car was worth ... the concept of 
willing buyer and willing seller applies no matter what is being sold. Of course 
the person that sold a Rembrandt painting, that had been in his mother's attic 
for years, for $100 can't be too happy about it.
To summarize, there is no "market" for a D other than the one established by how 
badly a person wants to own one and how much they are willing to pay for it ... 
if the seller wants to give it away so be it. Best regards and Happy New Year to all,
Marv Sterling, vin 16000

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From: texyco(AT)west.net (Jonathan Bialis)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 18:53:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: KAPAC Parts Cars

I heard from someone a few months ago that Kapac wasn't going to start building 
new cars from parts. Is this true? I don't know if it was just a
rumor and how much of it was true. If it is true I'm buying one. 

thanks,


Jonathan Bialis - texyco(AT)west.net

http://www.west.net/~texyco/DeloreanMania.html My Delorean Mania Page 




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From: Henry Breer  Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 22:03:27 -0800
Subject: Re: DeLorean World

Mike702863(AT)aol.com wrote:

>Just wondering.... Is there any other way to subscribe to DeLorean World without 
being a member of the DOA? ... 

Mike,

Contrary to the name, you do not have to be an owner to join the DeLorean Owners 
Association. Anyone with an interest is welcome. The membership application etc 
are on our web page http://www.delorean-owners.org 

Membership is $60.00/year and includes the magazine. 

Hank Breer
VIN 1141
DOA 4637


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From: STANDLOR(AT)aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:07:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: DMC price levels

In a message dated 97-01-07 09:45:57 EST, starman(AT)powerpage.com (Mike Gaines)
writes:

<< the cars' prices get raised, then why 
not parts? Why not service? WHy not the DOA subscription? > 

MIKE- DOA prices have gone up, parts have gone up, wages and taxes also have
gone up. I don't know the condition of your car, but I HAVE turned down $20,000.00 
for mine. Mine is worth it to me, and it shows it. 


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From: raddad(AT)cmn.net
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 09:17:06 -0700
Subject: Re: Tips for new owner (lowering) 

>In a message dated 97-01-07 09:25:15 EST, SUBSTEM(AT)cesmtp.ccf.org (Mike Substelny) 
writes:

><< thus I do believe that
>properly lowered DeLoreans probably handle better than stock DeLoreans. >>

Further to lowering -
I can't comment on lowering by purchasing "springs". My lowereing was done
the old fashioned way - switching front and back and then cutting the springs. I 
have had no unusual tire wear. I know of dozens of others who have had this done 
and are also satisfied. For the record, my lowering was
done over 50,000 miles ago and I have gone through one set of tires (Yokohama) in 
that time. Again, for the record, the lowering was performed
at the DeLoreqn Motor Center.

Perhaps the key is, as Mike stated, *properly lowered*. 

Dick Ryan




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From: James Espey 
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 97 12:02:19 -0000
Subject: Re: KAPAC Parts Cars

>I heard from someone a few months ago that Kapac wasn't going to start building 
new cars from parts. Is this true? I don't know if it was just a
>rumor and how much of it was true. If it is true I'm buying one. 

>From what I gathered talking with the owner of KAPAC when I was there in 
October with Chapter 23 of the DOA, KAPAC is in the process of building three "new" 
DeLoreans from the parts that they have on hand. Indeed, when I was there, one was 
nearly finished. This is not to say that they only have enough parts to build three 
cars, they happened to have three complete underbodies and they ahd saved three 
left fenders as well. They have probably enough headlights/doors/hoods/mirrors/etc. 
to build a couple hundred DeLoreans, but not enough of the rest of the parts. 

I imagine these three cars will be very pricey, and if one wants a driver, one 
would probably be better off to buy one of DeLorean One's restored vehicles, which 
would probably cost less and DOES come with a warranty.

James


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From: Wicks, Michael, MWicks(AT)troy.cobe.com Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:14:17 -0500 
(EST) Subject: RE: KAPAC Parts Cars

How much does DeLorean One sell their restored cars for? Does anyone know off hand?

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>>I heard from someone a few months ago that Kapac wasn't going to start building 
new cars from parts. Is this true? I don't know if it was just a rumor and how much 
of it was true. If it is true I'm buying one. 

>From what I gathered talking with the owner of KAPAC when I was there in October 
with Chapter 23 of the DOA, KAPAC is in the process of building three "new" DeLoreans 
from the parts that they have on hand. Indeed, when 

>I was there, one was nearly finished. This is not to say that they only have enough 
parts to build three cars, they happened to have three complete underbodies and they 
ahd saved three left fenders as well. They have probably enough 
headlights/doors/hoods/mirrors/etc. to build a couple hundred DeLoreans, but not 
enough of the rest of the parts. 

>I imagine these three cars will be very pricey, and if one wants a driver, one 
would probably be better off to buy one of DeLorean One's restored vehicles, which 
would probably cost less and DOES come with a warranty.

>James



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From: Mpeak(AT)aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 02:15:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: "Eyebrows"

Does anybody know how "eyebrows" (bumps, warping of the plastic) above the headlights 
form in the plastic fascia? Does anybody know how to get rid of
them? I've heard Don at DMC L.A. is working on metal plates to put above the
headlights under the fascia, but how would this solve the problem? 

- -Matt


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From: Mpeak(AT)aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 02:09:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: Cross reference #'s

I believe that one of the greatest services we all can provide each other is
a list of any cross reference numbers we have. So, I'll post all of them that I 
have (or at least that I can find at the moment). Many of these numbers were obtained 
off of old DMCNC newsletters. Items denoted with an *
are old part numbers (14 years or so) but most of the time can be easily linked to 
the new part #'s (with exception to the Bosch relays and CB's) 

Brake Pads: Front: Repco D174
Rear: Repco D97 (same as Jensen Interceptor, Ferrari 206, and '68-'71 Jaguar XKE 2+2)
Duplicate keys: Volvo for ignition and 1978 Triumph for door locks. A/C idler pulley 
bearings: SKF #6202*
Inertia switch: Jaguar DBC2022 ($79.48 new, $35 used) Oil pressure switch: Volvo 
1218190 ($18.35) Heavy duty flasher unit: Volvo #1259615-1* Bosch fuel pump w/replacable 
check valve: 0580-254-973* Bosch 30 amp relay: 0-332-204-110*
40 amp circuit breaker: A.R.A. C/B part #088362* Oil Pressure gauges: Wells #PS136 and 
GP Sorensen (Kragen) OPS67 ($15.67) Thermo-time switch: Bosch 0-280-130-214
Air filter: Purolator A14275/AF4275 ($10) Oil filter: NAPA 1307 ($6), (Fram DG2870A also 
works) Fuel filter: NAPA 3156 ($19)
Louvre gas struts: NAPA 8195518 (2(AT)$19 ea.) 

I do not claim everything on this list to be totally accurate and I have not
used every part listed on my own car.

Currently I am furiously working on finding cross drilled rotors, but it isn't 
looking good since I can't find cross reference #'s for the original brakes (are 
they Jaguar?). I am also trying to get trunk struts and in a couple of months I will 
start looking for a suitable Bosch alternator to replace my Ducillier. I'll try and 
post whatever I find as I find it. I hope somebody has better luck tracking down the
 new part #'s for the Bosch relays and 40 amp circuit breakers and can report it to 
 the rest of the list.

Anybody have anything to add?

- -Matt





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From: STANDLOR(AT)aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:27:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: DMC price levels

In a message dated 97-01-08 08:15:55 EST, PhillipsJT00.CS33.USAFA(AT)usafa.af.mil 
(Jeff Phillips, x4300) writes: 

<< If you're looking for a DeLorean then its 
affordable, its yours and who cares what anyone else thinks its worth just hang on 
to it.

Jeff Phillips >>

GOOD SAID - JEFF
STANDLOR


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From: STANDLOR(AT)aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:56:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Delorean sounds

In a message dated 97-01-08 09:47:20 EST, Phillip124(AT)aol.com writes: 

<< Who know what a good running engine on 
a Delorean is supposed to sound like without hearing one. >> 

HEY GUYS - I GOT TWO CARS ONE AN 81 AND THE OTHER AN 83. EACH HAS ITS OWN UNIQUIE 
SOUND THOUGH. THE 83 IS MUCH DEEPER AND THROATIER THAN THE 81 ANTHOUGH THE ONLY 
DIFFERENCE I CAN SEE IS THE EXHAUST HAS STAINLESS CUPS WELDED ON TO THE END OF THE 
TAILPIPE. EVERYTHING ELSE SEEMS TO BE THE SAME -
BUT TWO DISTINCT SOUNDS.
STANDLOR-



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From: Mpeak(AT)aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:02:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Reliability

Someone mentioned that the reason some people believe that the Delorean has a
reliability problem is due to service problems. I couldn't agree more with
this. With good, reliable, trustworthy service, a mechanic can make any car
great. However, with no company existing to issue recalls, provide training,
and support repair shops, a mechanic (other than one of the few Delorean 
specialists) first has to become familiar with the car before he can properly
service it.

I find it extremely amazing that the Delorean is as reliable as it is for a
car that was in production for less than 2 years. Sure the first couple hundred 
had their problems, but my VIN #4428 is completely stock, factory original, and 
has had no reliability problems to date. I think that problems
begin to happen when people who are unfamiliar with the car purchase it, don't 
know how to care for it properly, and, not knowing any better, take it
to a mechanic who is unsuitable to fix the car. 

The Delorean is not a brand new, care free car, but if it is kept well maintained, 
I believe it can be as good as one. 

just my thoughts...
- -Matt


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From: Mpeak(AT)aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:21:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Rust inhibitor

Whoever mentioned a special product the inhibits rust in the 1/8 mailing list, is 
the product you are talking about an electronic unit which carries a
current through the frame thus preventing the formation of rust? I don't remember 
where I've heard about this product, but i think it is for sale in
the JC Whitney catalog for about $200. I'm not sure how or if it works, butif it 
does, $200 is much less than the price of a new frame! 

- -Matt


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From: James Espey 
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 08:10:53 -0000
Subject: RE: DeLorean One Cars (was KAPAC Parts Cars) 

>How much does DeLorean One sell their restored cars for? Does anyone know off hand?

Last I heard they were $27.5, but D1 was talking about having to raise the price 
at the end of the year to $30K. This sounds on the high side, but these are excellent 
cars, and yes, they sell quite a few of these. 

James


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From: James Espey 
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 08:38:32 -0000
Subject: ADMIN NOTE: Undeliverable messages 

The mailing list server that I am using for DMC-News has made some changes in the 
interest of "more efficiently" (uh-oh) maintaining the subscription portion of the 
list. Out of the nearly 400 (!) total subscribers to both versions of the list, 
invariably I will get about a half-dozen "bounced" messages because of invalid 
addresses (people quitting/changing internet providers, full mailboxes, transient 
failures, etc).

User unknown : address removed on the first instance Too Many Hops: address removed 
on the first instance Could not deliver after 3 days: address removed on the first 
instance Host unknown: address removed after 10 errors within 2 days Problem with 
recipient mailbox: address removed after 3 errors within 2 days

If you don't know what this means, all you need to know is that if you're on the 
"live" version of the list and you don't get any mail from the list for more than 
a day or two, you might try to resubscribe. 

Digest subscribers should get a digest at **least** once every two weeks (many times 
it'll be more often than that). If you don't receive a digest for more than two weeks, 
try resubscribing. 

Questions, comments, kudos, poster orders? Email me. 

James "Mikasa" Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com Coming in '97 - http://www.dmcnews.com/


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From: James Espey 
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 12:58:37 -0000
Subject: DeLorean being parted out...

This weekend I am going to look at a DeLorean that is being parted out - if anyone 
is interested in anything, let me know and I will see if it's still on the car and 
how much he wants for it. I understand the car is still pretty complete.

James


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From: WINGD2(AT)aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:26:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: Delorean Model

A while back someone on the mailing list (I think it was Rob Hook) was
working on having a guy in Indiana make some Delorean model bodies for the BTTF 
kits. Last I remember he had orders for 20 to 30 kits. I don't know if
Rob's still on the list, I haven't seen a posting from him lately. Does anyone know 
what happened with this ? I remember that the guy making the kits
was supposed to contact the people who placed the orders directly. Has anyone
been contacted by him? Does anyone even know his name, an address or his phone number?

Marty Maier


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From: RPET123(AT)aol.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 19:14:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: New Owner (virtually)

When I first got my delorean ,I was given some good advice to replace as much
of the rubber parts,hoses,ect.as I could., Which I did, I neglected however
to replace any of the gas lines. last may while driveing down the hgy.a gas
leak developed near the fuel distributer which caused a fire,what a mess,what
an expense,I advise checking all hoses

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From: STANDLOR(AT)aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:03:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: New Owner (virtually)

In a message dated 97-01-09 19:30:01 EST, RPET123(AT)aol.com writes: 

<< Which I did, I neglected however to replace any of the gas lines >> 

GOOD ADVICE. ALSO, CHECK YOUR FUEL PUMP SEALING RING (HOLDER) AND COVER SEAL
FOR DETERIATION. IF YOU FIND ANY SHRINKAGE IN THE SEAL COVER, CHECK FURTHER,
ON THE PUMP HOLDER FOR SOFTNESS. IF ANY THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE THAT THE WHOLE
UNIT IS DETERIORATING AND SHOULD BE REPLACED DUE TO ITS CAUSING A FOULING OF
THE GAS TANK. ALSO CHECK THE HOSES FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE FUEL PUMP. MINE
BECAME VERY SOFT AND ONE WAS ACTUALLY BROKEN FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE PUMP BUT
STILL HANGING BY A THREAD. THE FUEL HOSE FEED AND RETURN HOSES ARE PROBOBLY
THE ONES YOU ARE REFERRING TO AND WERE DETERIORATED IN MY CAR ALSO. THE RUBBER 
HAD FALLEN OFF AND LEFT BOTH PIPES WITH THE PLASTIC SHIELDING EXPOSED.
IT LITTERLY WAS A BOMB READY TO EXPLODE! CHECK THE HOSES EVERY YEAR AND REPLACE 
THEM IF NECESSARY- DON'T WAIT UNTIL AN EMERGENCY OCCURS. STANDLOR


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From: RSRodgers(AT)aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 07:14:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: DMC Prices

With all due disclaimers, the graph I published at http://members.aol.com/RSRodgers/ 
shows most of the DMC's in the 15-20K$ range. Of course, these were generally ASKING 
prices, and I have NO idea what the cares actually SOLD for (except mine!) FWIW
Bob Rodgers VIN#17015
RSRodgers(AT)aol.com

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From: Mpeak(AT)aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:32:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: Tom Long?

Is Thomas R. Long still on the list? Please drop me a line if you are. If
not, does anybody know his new e-mail address? 

Thanks,
- -Matt
Mpeak(AT)aol.com


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From: Brian Henderlong  Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 19:35:28 -0500
Subject: Motor Makers in Ireland

Hi, everybody. I'm considering purchasing the "Motor Makers in Ireland" book from 
Chapter 43, but it's $70 and I'd like your opinion on the book if you own it or 
have seen it. 

Are the photos in color? Are they good quality? How long is the book, how informative 
is it, and in your estimation, would you buy it again if you had the chance?

Thanks for your input.


Brian Henderlong
bhenderlong(AT)wusf.usf.edu
D.O.A. #4977
vin# this summer!


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From: Advanced Book Exchange, abe(AT)abebooks.com Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:34:31 
-0500 (EST) Subject: ABE want matches

The following wants have been matched by ABE: 

***

Your Want: Keywords: delorean
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- --------
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Dream Maker. The Rise and Fall of John Z. DeLorean by Fallon/Srodes NY Putnams 1983
keywords: Biography AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY BUSINESS DELOREAN MOTOR CAR 1stEd very good 
in dj bookplate, front pastedown. first edition. Binding is hc. The price of the book 
is US$ 12.00 Please reference the seller's book # 003171 when ordering.

The seller is Franklin's Old Book Shop at 39 Public Square, Columbia, TN, USA, 38401
Email them at oldbooks(AT)usit.net., phone them at 615-540-0520., fax them at none.
Their conditions of sale are; Payment with order, please; all major credit cards 
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Please e-mail for hold and to verify availability of any title you might be interested 
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This mail was created 01/09/1997 02:29:02 PM and postmarked 01/09/1997 04:58:55 PM



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From: "James H. Nichols"  Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:43:48 
-0800 (PST) Subject: fuel starvation

Shortly after I bought my Delolrean about three years ago it developed typical fuel 
starvation-collapsed fuel line symptoms. New injectors and lines had been installed 
before I bought the car, (previous owner probably had the same problem).

The only suction line is the large (aprox. 1" ID) line from the fuel pump to the 
pickup filter in the bottom of the tank. The line was very flexible
but not soft, and the filter was covered with a red substance that appeared
to be rust. Solvents, including carb cleaner MEK and acetone, would not touch the red 
material. I finally tried soap and water and the filter looked like new in a few 
minutes. Wiping the inside of the tank with a white rag showed no residue.

I suspect the red material was bacteria or fungus. The car had been stored
for three years before I bought it. I know that these animals grow in jet fuel but 
didn't realize that they would grow in gasoline. 

It probably wasn't necessary, with a clean filter, but I slipped an expanded spring 
inside the straight section of the pickup line so that it can't collapse now.

Has any one else had this problem?

Jim




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From: James Espey 
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 12:20:27 -0000
Subject: Report on "DeLorean bring parted out" 

I went out at lunch today and checked on this salvage DeLorean. It is an '81, black 
interior five speed and it appears mostly complete, BUT (here's the catch) the guy 
is currently using it as a SIGN for his salvage yard and he has it up on top of this 
big semi-trailer about 20 feet in the air, and he wouldn't let me climb on the 
trailer. Honestly, it didn't look too safe anyway, and even though I grouse about 
how old I am at thirty, I'd like to see 31.

In any case, he doesn't want to sell any parts off the exterior of the car, at least 
not right away. He says that come summer he may change his mind and I intend to 
follow up every couple of weeks. The interior is sun-baked, but electrics and 
mechanical items are available. I gave him a list and he is supposed to fax it back 
to me this afternoon or Monday. 

People on the list who emailed me about particular items will hear from me as soon 
as I get prices.

James


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From: Widdomaker(AT)aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 21:16:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: value

I recently purchased a 1996 Dodge Intrepid. I spent a lot of time researching the 
car, including the price. If I would have come across one that was $5 - $10k less 
then I thought it was worth, I would run as fast as
I can (in the opposite direction) as far as I can!!! I have more sense then
that. If it sounds like there's something wrong....then there probably is.

I also have an 81 D! It is in great shape with very low miles. I would never part 
with it for less the $18k and believe the (current) fair range to
be $18-22k. Anything less for that car is just plain stupid. those of you who 
undervalue your cars are doing yourselves and other owners a
great disservice.

Don't forget....you get what you pay for.... 




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From: "Michael McDonough"  Date: Sat, 11 Jan 97 07:50:37 UT
Subject: DeLorean prices

Don't complain about current prices. Its a buyer's market, so pick up a reasonable 
car and turn it into a high-dollar one (whether you intend to resell it or not). 
I've owned 6 DeLoreans plus restored and built a lot of
old cars and hot rods, and never lost money on one yet. I picked up my blown
chevy powered DeLorean for $3,000 as a basket case, and just listened to my
wife claim under oath that it was worth $50,000! Lucky for me the divorce
court judge didn't buy that. But it certainly reflects 5 years of restoration
and improvement, and is a one of a kind experience to drive. So what is it
really worth? Who cares! I'll drive it untill somebody wants it worse than I
do, or until too many bills are due. All that and the fun of driving one of
the most unique cars ever.
Darryl Tinnerstet

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From: "Michael McDonough"  Date: Sat, 11 Jan 97 07:07:24 UT
Subject: Specialty Automotive Returns

Its with great relief I can finally announce the return of Specialty Automotive, 
the Northwest's premier source of discount DeLorean parts and information. For 
those who have been patiently awaiting the outcome of "divorce wars" I am back in 
business! After a year long struggle I regained
control of my 10,000 piece DeLorean parts inventory. I retained ownership of
both DeLoreans - supercharged Chevy-powered "BLWNAWY" and "PARTDLR" with its
fully polished and turbo-charged stock motor(which will be completed and sold
this summer to finance my son's college career). Starting in February I will
be able to resume full operation, and in July I get my house and shop back
too.

For those who may not have heard of us, we have been serving the needs of DeLorean 
owners world wide for over 11 years, with new and used DeLorean parts, quality 
replacements, and our own top quality pieces such as stainless
steel speedo cables, engine cover support slides, bolt-on water pump pulleys,
and steering column bushings. Examples of prices: replacement power window
assemblies $250 (the same ones "you-know-who" sells for a lot more) and A/T
computers $425. Also available are complete brand new engines, genuine DMC,
for $4,000 plus shipping. Please write or call for the best current prices on
all parts.

I hope to be partnering soon with ASE certified mechanic and longtime DeLorean
owner Mike McDonough (whose computer I'm using to send this) to offer complete
in-shop repair and restoration services to all within driving range. Watch
for other developments, coming soon.

In the meantime, since I seldom get a chance to address the dmcnews readers,
I'd just like to toss out a few tidbits I've picked up over the years. First
is PLEASE quit telling owners to replace their failed Fan Fail relay with that
three-way jumper wire. That was a temporary (at best) fix to a problem that
did not address the real concern - both cooling fans are running off a single
relay, usually exceeding its capacity, and if it or either fan has problems
the whole system will fail. There is a far simpler and nearly free solution
that splits the fan motors onto separate relays, using the empty Fan Fail Relay socket, 
and the only cost is for the additional standard type relay.
Plus, in the process you can easily stop your fans from cycling on and off
when the A/C is on. Please call or write for FREE info on how this is done.
For $5 I will show you how to OPEN your doors by remote control using easily
obtainable parts and existing wiring. And who ever came up with that Hummer
dome light stuff, anyway? Just where is the nearest Hummer dealer? Why not
just go to your neighborhood Chrysler dealer and get the same part, for a very
reasonable price. Curious? Call me. Want to talk about how I stuffed in a
blown Chevy engine without buying a $1,000 adapter? Just call. 

If I ever get online, I will begin to regularly provide interchange information and 
answer questions based on 11 years of restorations and parts
sales. Until then you can reach me evenings 5:00 - 11:00 PM west coast time
or weekends at: Specialty Automotive, P.O. Box 11323, Olympia, WA 98508; ph.
360-786-0243. Thanks for your understanding and patience this last year. 

Darryl Tinnerstet

(You can always reach me here at Mike's "dmcflyer" address also.) 


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