DeLorean Mailing List - 1/30/97
dmcnews-digest Thursday, 30 January 1997 Volume 02 : Number 209
In this issue:
re:Delorean Articles
What I use to brush stainless
Transmission Trouble
Re: DeLorean parts
Espey DeLorean Poster
re:Transmission Trouble
UPDATE: Windows DeLorean Commercial
Re: Transmission Trouble
Gullwing Aston Martin "Bulldog"
Re: DeLorean parts
Re: What I use to brush stainless
Re: Transmission Trouble
Back lights
PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT?
Re: Back lights
New here & Engine swap (fwd)
Re: Engine Swap
Stainless texture
More on re-texturizing stainless
[none]
Re: Commercial?
Re: PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT?
Parts on line
Re: Re-texturing the Stainless
Re: New here & Engine swap
Re: PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT?
Mechanics
Who's there
RE: Parts on line
Re: Dayton Mechanic
Re: Parts on line
Scratched SS Panels.
Re: PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT?
fascia refinishing
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From: Dan Baisley Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 13:07:22 -0500
Subject: re:Delorean Articles
At 04:57 PM 1/23/97 MST, Jeff Phillips, x4300 wrote:
HHey everyone, I just read the article on JZD and the DeLorean being an Anti-IRA
move. Can someone who knows a little more about this subject shed some light on
it. I just don't see how the D was a anti-IRA project.
>Jeff "In-the-know" Phillips
The DMC plant was in Dunmurry, one of Nothern Ireland's most embattled cities in
the 1970s. Unemployment among Catholics (IRA) was incredibly high,
especially among young men. The theory was that If you provided jobs, they would
be less likely to become militant revolutionaries.
The DMC plant hired equal ammounts of Catholics and Protestants. A small scandal
in the early days of operation revealed that the Catholics were generally given
more labor intensive and lower paying jobs. This was not because of any predjudice,
but the fact that the Protestants usually had a better educational background.
According to JZD's book, the employees were re-organized to eliminate this disparity.
You might want to check out JZD's autobiography and Hillel Levin's _Hard Driving_
for two very different accounts of the history of the DMC.
Dan.
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:18:32 -0500
Subject: What I use to brush stainless
>What is the proper abrasive pad and where do you get one?
I called DMC Houston and asked them to send me a couple of the same pads they use.
Warren kind of laughed, saying I could probably get the exact same thing at a local
hardware cheaper. I didn't want to risk getting the wrong thing, so I asked for
theirs. I was ordering hundreds of dollars worth of parts, so I didn't mind adding
a couple of bucks to the order.
The polymer pads they sent contain no metal, so they will never cause the problems
that steel wool does. I use them only when ABSOLUTELY necessary to blend out
obvious scratches. So far there is no sign of an "X" through my luggage compartment
lid.
Sorry, but there are no marks to identify the pads.
- -Mike Substelny
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From: SCiszek(AT)aol.com
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 21:01:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Transmission Trouble
Here's the deal: I was driving the car home 3 days ago when I began to notice a
whirring/whining noise towards the right rear of engine compartment
when I was going at low speeds through my neighborhood. The next day shifting
became increasingly difficult, being most difficult to shift into first gear.
When I came out to look at the car the next morning there was a large puddle
of liquid ( I am assuming it's transmission fluid) underneath the car in front
of the motor. It has been draining now for 2 days. Looking underneath
the car offered no sign of obvious damage to the transmission. I wouldn't even
consider driving the car but I have no idea how or what has happened here although
I assume something went wrong with the transmission. If anyone
could share some insight into the nature of this problem it would be greatly
appreciated.
- Scott Ciszek
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From: Calducati(AT)aol.com
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 23:12:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: DeLorean parts
Arne,
Quick note: Don't just replace one lifter, replaced them all if you are replacing a
camshaft. If you don't, the old lifters will wear out you new camshaft rapidly.
David
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From: "Murray Fisher"
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 18:43:03 -0800
Subject: Espey DeLorean Poster
The poster that James peddles is beautiful...excellent photography....great
color and beautiful background. I have it on the wall in a place of honor in my
Hamshack/computer room. We can all get enlargements, but not of this
size and quality very easily.
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From: "Jeff Phillips, x4300" Date: Fri,
24 Jan 97 23:04:20 MST
Subject: re:Transmission Trouble
>>shifting became increasingly difficult, being most difficult to shift into
first gear.
>>When I came out to look at the car the next morning there was a large puddle
of liquid ( I am assuming it's transmission fluid)
I'll leave the techy help to someone who is a bit more qualified than me but I
will say this. While these two symptoms are no doubtedly related to your problem
it's not in the manner that you are suggesting. Transmission fluid is hopefully
reddish in color and almost exclusively leaks out of automatic cars. Reason being
is that manual transmissions do not have transmission fluid. I knew this once but
had to relearn it years back after I spent 15 minutes looking for the transmission
dip stick
in my brothers Bug. I was sure that this was the problem. Anyhow, if you noticed
any other sounds while trying to shift it would be helpful to know. Sometimes the
syncronizers will start going bad causing difficulties shifting. This will
normally come with an unpleasent grinding
sound. Other times it can be as simple as a shifter linkage getting out of
adjustment. This doesn't explain the leaking oil unless you really bottomed out
or hit something on the highway that broke your oil pan and jarred your transmission
in one nice sweeping blow. Just something to think about, I hope that you find out
whats wrong and get that car back on
the road where it belongs. If not, lemme know if you want to sell it. ;o)
Jeff
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From: James Espey
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 97 10:33:06 -0000
Subject: UPDATE: Windows DeLorean Commercial
So many people reposnded to my request for a tester, I just uploaded it to the
server. If you want it, get it from:
http://www.goodnet.com/~mikasa/dmccom.zip
Once I get confirmation that it works, I will make a link to it on the web page!
Thanks to all!
James "Mikasa" Espey
Start '97 with a new DeLorean - or at least a poster of one!
http://www.goodnet.com/~mikasa/poster.html
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:48:48 -0500
Subject: Re: Transmission Trouble
Scott Ciszek said:
>I began to notice a whirring/whining noise towards the right rear of engine
compartment when I was going at low speeds through my neighborhood.
I am not sure what could cause this sound. Is your alternator working properly?
What did your voltmeter read? The tranny is definitely not in the location of the
sound.
>The next day shifting became increasingly difficult, being most difficult to
shift into first gear. When I came out to look at the car the next morning there
was a large puddle of liquid ( I am assuming it's transmission fluid) underneath
the car in front of the motor.
Now this IS the location of the transmission. Jeff Phillips already mentioned
that the substance usually known as "transmission fluid" is normally associated
with automatic trannies. Transmission fluid actually transmits torque within an
automatic transmission. The five speed tranny is filled with a gear oil, which
strictly acts as a lubricant.
Scott, my guess is that your tranny is fine, but the clutch line or slave cylinder
has sprung a leak. This would explain why you had trouble shifting the day before
you saw the puddle. You can tell the type of fluid by its color (your clutch
hydraulic circuit should be filled with the same DOT 4 type of fluid as your brake
hydraulic circuit, while the tranny is filled with gear oil).
Look in your clutch fluid reservoir. I'll bet it is empty. The leak migh be easy
to spot, but you may need to refill the reservoir and have someone pump your clutch
pedal while you find the exact location. You should be able to fix this sucker much
more easily than a transmission.
If you end up replacing the clutch line, I recommend that you purchase the
stainless one. Personally, I had a mechanic put mine in (it's a tough job without
a lift). If you only need a new slave cylinder you are probably in luck (although
I have no experience with that operation myself).
I'm still wondering about that whirring sound, though . . .
- -Mike Substelny
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From: "Murray Fisher"
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 11:02:29 -0800
Subject: Gullwing Aston Martin "Bulldog"
For what its worth department.
Check out Automobile Quarterly Volume 21 #4 on Pages 386-7. Pictured, is the 79
Aston Martin gullwing "Bulldog". Twin Turbo V8 Mid Engine, 200MPH.
It is one of a kind and never went into production. Quite a resemblance to the
DeLorean!
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From: STANDLOR(AT)aol.com
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 01:48:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: DeLorean parts
In a message dated 97-01-24 09:02:06 EST, you write:
<< or my '81 DeLorean I need the following parts:
- camshaft right
- gasket kit engine
- cylinder head bolts
- 1 lifter
- crank shaft bearings
Has anybody an idea, where I can get these parts ? (must be shipped to Germany) >>
Arny:
Contact Delorean One in Chatsworth, Calif, or Kapac in Columbus, Ohio, or DMC
in Houston,Texas. Betweem one of them, or all of them, they should have your
parts available, and be able to ship them to Germany with ease via UPS. I have
delt with D-1 for years and find they got just about everything. Lots
of luck.
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From: STANDLOR(AT)aol.com
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 01:48:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: What I use to brush stainless
In a message dated 97-01-24 15:06:45 EST, you write:
<< asked them to send me a couple
of the same pads they use. Warren kind of laughed, saying I could probably get
the exact same thing at a local hardware cheaper. >>
Mike-
Warren really knows his business, except when he forgets to write a part no
down when you place an order. The pads that have been mentioned for years at
conventions for re-texurizing the steel are the scotch-brite pads which are
available in most hardware stores. They are used mainly to clean off outside
grills, but work well on our cars. They come in 3 distinct colors and with
handles and without. Have used them for years since Stephen first mentioned
them.
Did you get my E-mail on the lowering Springs? Are you interested? Please
let me know. Regards to the Ohio club members. I still don't miss the snow,
ice, storms, etc. In Az. we drive our cars year round, only looking out for
the occasional rain, when the water gets so high on the road that it comes in
through the bottom of the door. Had water one time at a traffic lite, crossroads,
that was almost to the top of my wheel well. Stan
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From: STANDLOR(AT)aol.com
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 01:31:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Transmission Trouble
In a message dated 97-01-25 11:31:13 EST, PhillipsJT00.CS33.USAFA(AT)usafa.af.mil
(Jeff Phillips, x4300) writes:
<< Transmission fluid is hopefully reddish in color and almost exclusively
leaks out of automatic cars. Reason being is that manual transmissions do not
have transmission fluid. >>
Although auto trannys do have a red transmission fluid, non auto trannys also
have a fluid, but not the red veriety. See your shop manual 4/1/1 I believe
part no. 35 which is located on the passenger side of the transmission. You
have a filler hole which is also the overflow hole for the transmission oil.
Under specifications of the vehicle - reccommended lubricants - manual transmission
recommended is GL-5 or MIL-L-2105-C 3.7 liters or 7.75 pts. Unless you have
a lift at your disposal , you have to get a hand pump and pump the stuff which
is quite thick pump by pump into the transmission. On your back it is
quite a job.
Transmission has probobly developed a crack, a seal leak, popped a bolt, etc.
which would all cause the fluid to leak. If it has been draining for 2 days,
it is reasonable to assume the leak is located in the lower area. Newspaper
should be placed under the car in order to try to determine EXACTLY where the
oil leak is occuring. Thats how you start out. Hope I've been some help. Stan
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From: "Joel Matos" Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 16:36:26 -0400
Subject: Back lights
What lights is supose to be ON in the back of the car? only one red each side and
the plate light? what about the orange?
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From: "Scott Mueller" Date: Mon, 27 Jan 97 01:31:56 UT
Subject: PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT?
I GIVE UP, THE CAR HAS WON.
HOW DO YOU ADJUST THE PARKING BRAKE?
I AM NOT ABLE TO GET THE PASS. SIDE BRAKE TO HOLD.
I HAVE TIGHTENED THE ADJUSTING BOLT #109018 AND THE CABLE AT BOTH WHEELS.MY CAR
IS VIN...2981, PURCHASED NEW IN OCT 1981, WITH ONLY 13,000 MILES, YES
THIRTEEN THOUSAND.
IF YOU KNOW HOW, OR KNOW WHICH ISSUE OF DMCNEWS ADDRESSED THIS, PLEASE LET ME
KNOW.
BTW, I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO RECIEVING DMCNEWS, ITS ALWAYS FULL OF GOOD INFO.,
THANKS JAMES FOR KEEPING IT CLEAN AND RELEVANT.
SCOTTAMUELLER(AT)MSN.COM
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From: STANDLOR(AT)aol.com
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 23:31:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Back lights
In a message dated 97-01-26 18:40:41 EST, you write:
<< What lights is supose to be ON in the back of the car?
only one red each side and the plate light? what about the orange? >>
Joel- The orange lights are the turn
indicator lights. The white are your back up lites, and there are two indicators
for the licence plates. Also make sure your running lites are on
on the side of the car. All light in the middle and disperse the light in the
plastic. You only have one red portion on at night when you turn your lights
on, the second section lights up when the brake is depressed.
Stan
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From: Ingmar Foerster Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997
13:15:00 +0100 (MET) Subject: New here & Engine swap (fwd)
Hi there,
I'm new in the DeLorean mailing list and I come from Cologne, Germany. I don't
have a DeLorean but I like them very much.
Here's a question I have.
As I know the DeLorean is equipped with a RPV V6 with 135(?)hp. Here in Europe
there is a version of this(?) motor with a 24 valve head available in Peugeots
and Volvos for a few years. This engine puts out up to
204hp.
What do you think, would an engine like this fit in the DeLorean?
Greetings from Germany
Ingmar Alvar Foerster - Foerster(AT)Ph-CIP.Uni-Koeln.de
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:05:48 -0500
Subject: Re: Engine Swap
Ingmar Foerster said:
>Here in Europe there is a version . . . (that) puts out up to 204hp. What
do you think, would an engine like this fit in the DeLorean?
It depends what you mean by "fit." While I expect there is enough space in the
DeLorean engine compartment, it is not as simple as that. As Bruce Benson pointed
out to me, different versions of the engine have different needs. You must find
out what control computer this engine requires, and other electronic characteristics.
It may or may not adapt easily to the DeLorean transmission. If you used a Volvo
transmission you might need to make modifications, because the DeLorean tranny sits
backwards.
I'll bet you could make this work for you. But it might take a lot of time and effort.
- -Mike Substelny
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From: magriese(AT)VNET.IBM.COM
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 97 12:50:30 CST
Subject: Stainless texture
DeLorean One has a pad that matches the brushed pattern very well. It is very
useful for touchups.
I strongly second the advice to stay away from steel wool entirely. Once the steel
fibers get embedded in the stainless, the fibers rust and will pit your body panels.
I also wouldn't use a standard abrasive, since they are made to slough particles
that can get imbedded as they are used.
On a side note, I recall a conversation with a body shop manager a few years ago
where he mentioned a dealership in the Minneapolis area who had equipment to
texture body panels. I don't recall the name of the dealership, but I could find
out if anyone is interested.
Mike Griese
magriese(AT)vnet.ibm.com
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:43:31 -0500
Subject: More on re-texturizing stainless
>Warren really knows his business, except when he forgets to write a part no down
when you place an order.
Actually, he did write it down for me. But I have my paperwork put away in the
attic, and I just didn't want to get it out. The Scotchbrite pads themselves are
unmarked.
Note that any type of abrasive (including Scotchbrite pads) will temporarily
change the appearance of your stainless. If you rub out one area it will take
a day or two before the color of that area matches the rest of the body again.
This has to do with normal surface oxydation. I believe this has caused people
to panic in the past, thinking they had used the wrong pads and messed up their
finish.
If I need to take out a few scratches for a car show, parade, or other public
event I try to do it a week ahead of time. This gives the color of the stainless
a chance to balance out so the whole car matches.
- -Mike Substelny
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From: dmcnews-approval
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:54:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: [none]
test - ignore
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From: James Espey
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 97 11:13:17 -0000
Subject: Re: Commercial?
To all who asked - there was a problem with the server over the weekend - so...
Try the link from the home page at:
http://www.dmcnews.com
Sorry!
James
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From: STANDLOR(AT)aol.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:31:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT?
In a message dated 97-01-27 00:01:29 EST, you write:
<< HAVE TIGHTENED THE ADJUSTING BOLT #109018 AND THE CABLE AT BOTH WHEELS.
Scott:
See Delorean World magazine issue #20 vol.6,no 2 winter 1989 and #29 Vol.8
No.2 Summer 1991 for assistance with parking brakes. If you put a new set
of brakes available at Delorean One and remove the cotter pin, with the hand
brake off, tighten the adjusting bolt until it is just tight against the pads,
replace the cotter pin to hold the bolt. Then when you pull the hand
brake up to postion it they will hold, or should if you didn't screw up the
whole alignment. If you did then you will have to take the magazines with you
to a professional for adjustment.
Stan
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From: Widdomaker(AT)aol.com
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:55:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Parts on line
1). About 1-2 months ago, I placed an inquiry for an order to that DMC Parts
Online place (not Kapac). I still have not heard anything from this place.
What has been other peoples experiences?
2). My speedo quit. How can I tell if it's the cable or the angle drive?
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From: BRUCE BENSON Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:19:40 +0000
Subject: Re: Re-texturing the Stainless
Each DeLorean dealer was required to carry a certain supply of spare parts and each
dealer was supplied with a re-texturing tool. It was an air tool with a rotating
disk containing ,I belive, abrasive strips. I tried to buy one from some of the local
dealers but was unable to find one. The former DeLorean dealer in Two Harbors,
Minnesota was selling off his inventory a few years ago but apparently lost the tool.
I finally made one using an air
motor and a hardware store variety abrasive paint removing wheel with replacable
abrasive strips. It works but the rpm's have to be just right. I
installed an adjustable air restricter and played with the speed. Too fast produces
a polished look. I also tried varing degrees of abrasivness. It's very difficult to
get the proper look when doing one section at a time but with care it does do the job.
Bruce Benson
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From: Nikki Schumann Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:17:40 +0100 (GMT)
Subject: Re: New here & Engine swap
>As I know the DeLorean is equipped with a RPV V6 with 135(?)hp. Here in Europe
there is a version of this(?) motor with a 24 valve head available in Peugeots
and Volvos for a few years. This engine puts out up to
>204hp.
>What do you think, would an engine like this fit in the DeLorean?
Hello Ingmar,
I think that you best bet would be too look for this engine's application in
a Renault Alpine. This is something that you can easily do in Germany since
you are so close to France. It so turns out that the Alpine has not only the
same basic PRV engine but also most likely the very same gearbox and setup as
it drives the rear wheels with the engine mounted at the very end of the
car. I also believe that the engine and gearbox setup (for both manual and auto)
was actually supplied by Renault to DMC when the cars were being assembled in
the first place and not by Volvo, so this would make it even more appropriate
to look for an Alpine's engine.
The latest evolutions of the Alpine (in Turbo guise) delivered probably around
250 bhp. In France however we have seen this engine fitted to another
very nice sports car, although this time mid mounted, and producing up to 400
bhp for road use !
BTW, has anybody got any idea of the performance figures of the Twin Turbo
evolution engine that was developed by Legend Industries ? No press articles
that talk about this evolution seem to give any numbers.
By for now,
Nikki (a DMC-12 fan in France).
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From: Calducati(AT)aol.com
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:50:59 -0500
Subject: Re: PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT?
Scott,
Did you check the rear brake shoes for being worn out? You can adjust the cables
all day long and it won't make a difference if the rear brake shoes are worn out.
David
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From: Bob Kidd
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:26:52 -0800
Subject: Mechanics
Does anyone know of a mechanic in the Dayton, Ohio area that will work on Deloreans??
Bob Kidd
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From: Ingmar Foerster Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:35:43 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Who's there
Hi there,
Just a little question about you:
Is there anybody from Europe especially Germany in this list??
Ingmar Alvar Foerster - Foerster(AT)Ph-CIP.Uni-Koeln.de
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From: "David Jacobs (Volt Computer)" Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:21:48 -0800
Subject: RE: Parts on line
>1). About 1-2 months ago, I placed an inquiry for an order to that DMC Parts
>Online place (not Kapac). I still have not heard anything from this place.
>What has been other peoples experiences?
Sender: dmcnews-approval(AT)world.std.com
Precedence: list
Reply-To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com
I have also placed an inquiry with DMC Parts and have not recieved a reply.
It's been a month or so...I went ahead submitted my inquiry with Kapac.
Dave...
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:53:02 -0500
Subject: Re: Dayton Mechanic
>Does anyone know of a mechanic in the Dayton, Ohio area that will work on Deloreans??
Dave Baurle in Radnor, Ohio is 90-100 minutes away from you (just outside Columbus).
While there may be a place nearer to Dayton for you to get service, Dave is the
closest one I could claim as an expert. He gave a nice technical seminar after the
1996 Kapac tour (Kapac is not far from his place). When we visited his shop it was
full of DeLoreans in for service.
See DeLorean World for details (Dave runs a full-page ad in most issues). I just
hope I didn't screw up his last name too badly.
Anybody going to Radnor should consider driving another 25 minutes north to Charlie
Sen's Antique Automobile Museum in Marion, Ohio. They have two beautiful DeLorean's
on display (an 83 and an 81) along with many other interesting cars. Mr. Sens has
several racing versions of the Model T.
- -Mike Substelny
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From: Ddl52(AT)aol.com
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 12:13:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Parts on line
I also placed a Delorean parts inquiry with the online service about 3 weeks
ago and never received anything.
Dennis
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From: "Eric J. Hennebury" Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:18:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Scratched SS Panels.
I'm pretty sure that some of the Delorean restoration places offer refurbishing
of panels. As I remember, this can include dent removal as well as rebrushing.
No doubt this would not be the cheapest method, but I'm sure it would yield the
best results. Cheers,
Eric
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From: Calducati(AT)aol.com
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 04:48:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTMENT?
Sorry everyone. I had a brain fade and was thinking of another brake design.
The Delorean has rear brake pad set up. The information I put out was for a
vehicle with rear brake shoes setup. While I am on the subject. You can have
automatic transmission fluid in your manual transmission. This is done
to help the shifting characteristics in cold weather climates. In normal use
the manual transmission fluid should be a much thicker viscocity of fluid than
automatic transmission fluid.
Thanks
David
ASE Master Auto Technician
California License Smog Technician
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From: olsond(AT)dgabby.mfldclin.edu (David Olson) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 17:25:23 -0600
Subject: fascia refinishing
I would like to hear what is the common wisdom and experience on repainting and refinishing
the front and rear fascia on the Delorean. I have seen the Delorean World Tech notes,
however I would like to hear how comfortable even of you would be having your standard
body shop do the work. I understand that the paint or the process has to be done in such a
way to insure that the can be plenty of flex so the paint doesn't peel in the future. Here in
central Wisconsin there is no one that regularly works on the car. Anybody out there with
some experience on this?
David Olson vin 11594
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