Friday, January 2 1998 Volume 03 : Number 316 In this issue: [Fwd: DML: Oil filler cvc] Re: DML: Oil filler cvc DML: Re: my dmc experience DML: TIRE PRESSURE DML: Tranny-no-more... Re: DML: Tranny-no-more... DML: re: Tire Pressure DML: Everyone is invited to DCO Holiday Party DML: Missing DMC parts section DML: DeLorean Wiring Diagrams DML: Remote Starting of De Lorean. DML: Buying (and modifying) Deloreans [Fwd: DML: TIRE PRESSURE] Re: DML: Missing DMC parts section DML: DeLorean Crash Tests DML: DeLorean Motor Company of Houston DML: SuperChargers??? DML: DMC-Key Colors-Update DML: Windshield Woes, Insurance Joys and DMC (Houston) Re: DML: Remote Starting of De Lorean. DML: Delorean Maintenance Club DML: A Yuckey Story. DML: Action Item - Information link to Cincinnati event DML: Shift change problem DML: updates dor a 81 DELOREAN DML: Re: A Yuckey Story. DML: Black Again DML: Delorean Wiring Diagram DML: DeLorean vs. Corvette DML: Oxygen sensor, mixture control, and oxygenated fuels DML: Re: dmcnews-digest V3 #315 DML: DMC owners and fans DML: Modifications ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 10:11:27 +0000 From: James Nichols
Subject: [Fwd: DML: Oil filler cvc] TGraham999 wrote: > > When I took out the "Oil filler cvc" to change my oil, I noticed some > milky > substance on the bottom and some in the engine beneath it...Just like when > water mixes with oil...I say this because the guy said that I have a > broken > head gasket. I am taking the car in to the real mechanic on Jan. 2nd, but > really really really want to drive it around some in the meantime. I've > heard > that the milky stuff is normal on DeLoreans. Is that true? Or is the guy > right in suspecting that I have a blown head gasket? The car runs > perfect, > doesn't smoke, and has good engine compresson. > > Thanks, > Travis The milky substance is probably condensation from blow-by around the rings. The crankcase is connected to the intake manifold through the oil filler cap, and operates under the same vacuum as the intake manifold, no PCV valve. The only way out of the crankcase is through the oil filler cap into the intake manifold. Since the filler cap is located in a relatively cool part of the engene, the water-oil mix will condense there. If the milky substance smells like anti freeze, you have a problem. If the car runs smoothly on all six from a cold start and the spark plugs are all dry, you don't have a blown head gasket. Jim #6884 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 11:24:35 -0500 From: Vicki Miller <"firstname.lastname@example.org"@gte.net> Subject: Re: DML: Oil filler cvc TGraham999 wrote: > > When I took out the "Oil filler cvc" to change my oil, I noticed some > milky > substance on the bottom and some in the engine beneath it...Just like when > water mixes with oil...I say this because the guy said that I have a > broken > head gasket. I am taking the car in to the real mechanic on Jan. 2nd, but > really really really want to drive it around some in the meantime. I've > heard > that the milky stuff is normal on DeLoreans. Is that true? Or is the guy > right in suspecting that I have a blown head gasket? The car runs > perfect, > doesn't smoke, and has good engine compresson. > > Thanks, > Travisit has been my experiance as a G .M. mechanic for the past 20 + years that unless the motor oil also looks like milk you just might have only condensation in side the motor. this happens when the car is not driven on a regular basis . try a oil change with a good filter . bob miller ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 02:43:38 +1100 From: "Troy R. Haslewood" Subject: DML: Re: my dmc experience Being from Australia, I had never seen a real DeLorean before I travelled to the USA in September. While I was there, Don Steger of the DeLorean Motor Centre in Garden Grove, CA. was kind enough to show my father and I around his shop. He had about thirty DeLorean's in the garage and out the back, and I saw some fine examples of tip-top DeLoreans and neglected ones. I was horrified when I saw one car that was rusted, dinged, dirty, and the interior was full of dirt and rat's nests, but I was also awe-struck when I had the opportunity to sit in one of the most beatiful specimen-of-a-DeLorean I had ever seen (in pictures or at the DMC). So, Donald, I can empathise with the wonder you felt when you saw your mum's friend's DeLorean. But, it looks like I might be able to see a few more DeLoreans a little sooner than I expected (and I expected it to be a very looong time before I saw one in real life again). My dad and I are considering using our frequent flyer points to go back to L.A. for the DeLorean Expo '98! We're just waiting for the next DeLorean World for more info on the event. I think that'll be a trip to save up for! I'm 16, BTW. Cop you's later, Troy R. Haslewood, Sydney Australia http://www.zip.com.au/~delorean/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 11:03:50 EST From: RICH AJG Subject: DML: TIRE PRESSURE What is the correct tire pressure for the front and back tires? Rich VIN 2088 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 08:51:08 -0800 From: Dave Price Subject: DML: Tranny-no-more... Well, the little problem I was having where the auto tranny couldn't decide what gear to stay in isn't much of an issue anymore, as it doesn't go to any gear. Progression of the problem: At the beginning it would slip in and out of 1st gear. Then it got worse and would switch back and forth between the gear it's supposed to be in, and one gear lower (R to neutral, 1st to neutral, 2nd to 1st, and 3rd to 2nd.) Now it will basically is neutral all the time reguardless of where I put the stick, and it will occasionally slip into first (or reverse, depending), but never go fast enough to change any higher. Any ideas? My nosey neighbor ( Mr. Certified Mechanic ) said that my belts need alignment, but I don't think he knows about D's in particular. Please help.. My car is stranded in my garage... Thanks! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 13:09:19 -0500 From: email@example.com (Jack Singer) Subject: Re: DML: Tranny-no-more... Dave Price wrote: > > Well, the little problem I was having where the auto tranny couldn't > decide > what gear to stay in isn't much of an issue anymore, as it doesn't go to > any gear. Progression of the problem: > At the beginning it would slip in and out of 1st gear. > Then it got worse and would switch back and forth between the gear it's > supposed to be in, and one gear lower (R to neutral, 1st to neutral, 2nd > to > 1st, and 3rd to 2nd.) > Now it will basically is neutral all the time reguardless of where I put > the stick, and it will occasionally slip into first (or reverse, > depending), but never go fast enough to change any higher. > > Any ideas? My nosey neighbor ( Mr. Certified Mechanic ) said that my > belts > need alignment, but I don't think he knows about D's in particular. > Please > help.. My car is stranded in my garage... > > Thanks! > Dave I know this may sound dumb, but have you checked the fluid level. Most automatics I have had (four to date) have had broken dip sticks. The owners either had too much fluid or not enough. It caused shifting problems every time. Once I got the level right, no more problems. Otherwise, call PJ Grady, he is the best in the business. (800) 350-7429 Jack ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 14:16:21 -0500 From: Mike Substelny Subject: DML: re: Tire Pressure Rich, there is a plate inside the glovebox that gives the recommended tire pressure. I don't have my car with me right now, but I think it is something like 25 front and 35 rear. I just searched the DML back issues (accessed under "Archives" at www.dmcnews.com) for the words "tire pressure" and found a number of previous threads on the subject. I suggest that you perform the same search and read these past discussions for greater insight. FYI one archive post says: ". . . the recomended pressure, 23-29 (F) 30-34(R) . . " - - Mike Substelny ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 14:48:48 -0500 From: Mike Substelny Subject: DML: Everyone is invited to DCO Holiday Party The DeLorean Club of Ohio (former DOA Chapter 23) is having its annual Meeting / Holiday Party on January 10th. It will be held at my house in Cleveland, Ohio starting at noon Eastern time. Everyone on the DML is invited. We will be discussing the DeLorean Car Show in Cincinnati, the DOA Expo in LA, and our other activities for 1998. The meeting will also feature a talk about insurance liability of owners and clubs when showing your car or hosting different types of car shows, parades, and other events. January marks the beginning of our first membership year. Anyone on the DCO snail-mail list who wants to keep receiving our newsletter must pay dues at this time. We will vote on the amount of the dues and complimentary exchanges with other local clubs at the meeting. Even if you cannot make it to the meeting at noon, please show up for the party afterwards. My new bride and I have a LOT of soda pop and beer left over from our wedding, so the festivities will go late into the night! This event will kick off a very big year for DeLoreans in Ohio. Anyone who can make it is bound to be glad they did! Please E-mail me or call (216) 321-5024 if you need directions or information about accommodations. Have a happy and safe New Year, everyone. - - Mike Substelny ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 97 13:16:00 PST From: Knut S Grimsrud Subject: DML: Missing DMC parts section My DMC parts catalog (and hence the DMC cross reference database) makes a lot of references to section 6.6.0 in various places, however my copy has no section 6.6.0. Does anyone have the scoop on the elusive section? Is it missing only from my manual or is it missing in general? While on the topic, a couple parts in my parts manual have missing parts numbers. Does anyone have the proper part numbers for: Sec 3.5.0 Fig 29 - Side marker bulb socket Sec 4.2.0 Fig 4 - Gearlever Sec 4.2.0 Fig 5 - Selector assembly Sec 8.4.0 Fig 26 - Door seal Sec 3.6.3 Fig 6 - Mirror glass (LH & RH) Knut Grimsrud DeLorean Club of Oregon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 14:06:10 -0800 From: "Murray Fisher" Subject: DML: DeLorean Wiring Diagrams A couple weeks ago I sent out an emergency request for a good readable copy of the De Lorean Wiring Diagram. I needed it in a hurry as I had a tech who could do the work on a certain day. I got responses like you wouldn't believe! Several sent them to me without question, Others I told them I would pay for Priority Mail shipping etc. I got a total of EIGHT copies!! Some I told not to send them as I had plenty by that time. They were several sizes too. Marcie Haug told me about a large copy that the DOA had JUST made available, not yet on their Web page. She sent it to me immediately. It is 22x34 inches and on a heavy stock with a shiny finish and also includes a separate sheet that shows where all components are located on the diagram. The Cost is $10.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I highly recommend it You can see all the details from quite a distance. I received in time to use, however my technician preferred to use the smaller one which he could take with him to where he was working on the car. Another diagram is the one put out by Brandon Moody. He had them available a few years ago and were prox 3x5 feet!! He said he had thought about doing it again if there was enough response, and I see he is doing it. I have not seen it, but probably will order one for the wall in the De Lorean area of my garage. His info is in a previous newsletter and the cost is $30 including shipping. So there you have the wiring diagram story in full. I want to thank everyone who responded and SO quickly....James' Newsletter is the greatest for we De Lorean owners and I for one sure appreciate his efforts and the results I got this time. I will tell a little bit later about what I DID with the diagrams. Basically this was for a remote (radio controlled) starter, door lock/unlock, alarm system etc. All is working great and I am tickled pink with the operation and installation. Murray Vin 05962 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 14:53:58 -0800 From: "Murray Fisher" Subject: DML: Remote Starting of De Lorean. I earlier, sent a letter telling of the response I got for the wiring diagram. I got this so a technician that I could work with would have better details on this particular car in installing a commercially available remote starting system. For those interested, It included connecting in four places to the ignition switch area, connection to the stop light switch, to the headlight and horns, a connection directly to the battery terminal in the engine compartment, plus instlalation of a switch under the engine "hood". Then due to a little complication in the wiring of the De Lorean we installed two new relays in the relay compartment area. This was for the door lock/unlock operation. The module has several other features, some of which are not usable too readily in the De Lorean. One button on the little key fob transmitter locks and unlocks the door with each successive push of the button. The horn gives a short single beep when locking and a double beep when unlocking. The second button is the starter button. When you press this, the horn bleeps once and the motor starts, then the lights come on....the engine will run for a programmable time, either 10 or 15 minutes and if you do not come out to the car it will shut off. When the engine is running and the RPMs get over 500 the horn bleeps twice to let you know it is running. If for some reason the engine does not start in 6 seconds, it shuts down for 20 seconds and will try two more times. If at any time you want to shut the engine down during this 15 minutes, you just press the button again. The third button turns on the lights. They will automatically go off in 15 seconds. There are every kind of safety features, plus an alarm feature. If someone tries to open your engine hood the alarm sounds. This can either be an intermittent horn (yours) or a separate siren. Ditto with opening your doors, or pressing on the brake pedal or taking the car out of Park. The car cannot be driven without a key in the ignition. A "secret" switch must be toggled properly to shut off the alarm if triggered. The system has the capability of adding more operations to it, such as a trunk lock/unlock and opening/closing. For your information this took 5 hours to install and the cost was a totat of $500 for the labor and module, extra relays and wiring. The cost of JUST the starting would be about $200 total. Anyone with experience with car wiring could do the job. It is mostly a matter of locating the components and running wires to them. We ran several wires front to back thru the tunnel after loosening some of the components first. Quite a bit of the wiring was done in the relay/fuse compartment area. It has good range. I triggered it from inside a restaurant where I could not see the car and heard the horn bleep once and then the double bleep indicating it was running. I did the same from inside a super market. I could not hear the horn due to all the noise around me, but the car was running and nice and warm when I got out to it. I tried it from inside a shopping mall too. The horn bleep can be shut off if you like. It has a bunch of "dip" switches that can be programmed for all kinds of goodies. For example if you park you car outside (no good inside a garage) and leave for work every day at 730am, you can program it to start up at 720am every day without doing anything further. You can program it to start up when the battery voltage gets down to 11 volts to keep your battery charged up. And so on! The module is well thought out and engineered. Contrary to what this sounds like, I have no stock in the company! I am just a gadget nut and am very enthused about this one. Murray Vin 05962 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 15:48:11 -0800 From: Ben Krasnow Subject: DML: Buying (and modifying) Deloreans Hi. I am new to the Delorean mailing list. I live in the SF Bay Area, CA. I don't own a Delorean yet, but I am in the casual to seriuos market for one. I am asking any of you what you would tell the ignorant buyer to look out for. Such things like leaky wheather seals or parts that break commonly, and are hard to find, that sort of thing. I have read the FAQ, but all it seems to suggest is fuel sitting in rubber hoses. Also has anyone ever heard of putting a small block Chevy motor in there? Or even a more powerful V6? Thanks Ben Krasnow kraz (at) wco (dot) com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 21:55:27 +0000 From: James Nichols Subject: [Fwd: DML: TIRE PRESSURE] RICH AJG wrote: > > What is the correct tire pressure for the front and back tires? > > Rich > VIN 2088 Workshop Manual L:12:01 Tyre Pressures for normal and high speed driving Normal High speed Front 23psi 29psi Rear 30psi 34psi Spare 60psi Jim #6884 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 00:02:49 EST From: TGraham999 Subject: Re: DML: Missing DMC parts section In a message dated 97-12-29 16:56:04 EST, you write: << Sec 8.4.0 Fig 26 - Door seal >> According to my Parts Manual, this part is #110044 This was the only part number that my manual had of the several that you listed. It conveniently left the others out. Why the heck are the other numbers missing....should I blame someone at Lotus??? Travis ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 01:06:15 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Tester Subject: DML: DeLorean Crash Tests If anyone is interested in seeing a video of the DeLorean Crash Tests, tune into The Learning Channel. A show titled "Crash Test" has a clip of one. It has been showing at 10:00pm and 1:00am, check the TV Guide for your chance to see it!! Scott Tester firstname.lastname@example.org Homepage http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/8240/DeLorean.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 23:14:32 PST From: "Supratik Lahiri" Subject: DML: DeLorean Motor Company of Houston Hello, everyone! Living about 4 hours from Houston (I live in a small place called Rusk) is the ideal place for DeLorean ownership, because a repair/parts area is quite close, considering other automotive issues. However, as I almost have enough money to buy a DMC, I will probably get it from DMC of Houston. I'm not yet of applicable driving age. My question is: Has anyone bought a DMC from DeLorean Motor Company in Houston? Is it good for daily driving, and can last up for a couple of years? Does it have all the "updates"? Thanks! ______________________________________________ /---\ /_____\ --"Hmm.. a flying delorean, how |---||__DMC__||---| interesting.." /|\ /|\ Supratik Lahiri email@example.com firstname.lastname@example.org http://members.aol.com/Zamere/index2.htm <<--__DeLorean Headquarters__-->> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 02:38:59 EST From: JIGAWTZ Subject: DML: SuperChargers??? Were/are there any superchargers compatible with the DeLorean, if so, where are the found and what are they called... Ryan Condie Owner of -- DMC "JIGAWTZ" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 01:28:22 -0800 From: "email@example.com" Subject: DML: DMC-Key Colors-Update Last 1997 DMC Key update. First, and foremost we have made and shipped 70+ sets of keys so far. We are trying to get all the key orders out by New Years. We have had a few problems which may have delayed "your" key orders. If you have not received your order and you sent your order form by e-mail earlier than December 15th you might want to e-mail or call me at (510) 649-9118. some things that might have stopped or slowed an order are: Credit card decline/then accepted later Invalid Credit card information Incomplete address/ keys returned waiting for Credit card number by Tel/ not called in yet We filled and shipped all orders which came in the mail with personal checks ASAP and before the checks were deposited. Not a single check has bounced! WE are still receiving both e-mail and snail-mail orders so if you just sent an order it may still take a few days to get them made and shipped. I have received several e-mail questions about the card that the DMC-Keys are shrink-warped onto. The card is a computer printed file of an 81 DMC with the doors open parked several hundred feet in front of 4 Moai on Rapa Nui at Sunset. I just thought that the cards would be a fun thing to include. Just to make sure we get every one who would like DMC Key blanks or duplicate keys with the DMC logo added, if you have asked for but not received an e-mail order form, we some how lost you. Please let us know so we can send you the form. Even if you decide to use snail mail to order keys, please print out the form and send it with your check. Please use the 1726 Francisco street address. This is where the Keys are being made. If you send your order to our headquarters address on Powell street, it will take a few extra days before your order gets in to the "Q". We had a die failure over the weekend and have stopped making keys until a new die is made. The die should be ready by Tuesday Dec 30 morning, oops that 's today, so we should only loose one day (he typed with fingers crossed). OK that 's it for this year........Happy New Year to All! Lee VIN#5729 Lic: 81DMC-12 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 97 06:47:10 -0700 From: James Espey Subject: DML: Windshield Woes, Insurance Joys and DMC (Houston) While driving my DeLorean over the holiday weekend, my windshield was the unfortunate victim of a rock that left a nice nick and an increasingly long crack. Since my insurance has glass coverage, yesterday morning I called my State Farm insurance agent and explained what happened. They said they were unsure if they could come up with an original windshield, so I gave them the name of a company in Houston that I knew has several hundred available - DeLorean Motor Company. I received a call a few hours later from my agent saying that the windshield was being shipped to Phoenix and the glass company would call me in about a week when it came in. I asked where the windshield came from and they told me from my source in Houston. A bit later, Stephen Wynne called and told me that he was sending me a rearview mirror mounting pad for the new windshield! That is what I call great customer service! I feel confident that should a more severe accident occur with my DeLorean (or any of the four other vehicles insured through State Farm), I will be just as pleased with the service. James ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 09:26:07 -0500 From: Marc A Levy Subject: Re: DML: Remote Starting of De Lorean. Murray Fisher wrote: > > I earlier, sent a letter telling of the response I got for the > wiring diagram. I got this so a technician that I could work > with would have better details on this particular car in > installing a commercially available remote starting system. > > For those interested, It included connecting in four places > to the ignition switch area, connection to the stop light (SNIP) > Contrary to what this sounds like, I have no stock in the company! > I am just a gadget nut and am very enthused about this one. > > Murray Vin 05962 This is all great, but you never said who makes it! Also, do you have a Auto or Manual? I have never seen one of these installed on a manual due to the safety considerations. Marc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 11:03:38 -0800 From: Dave Price Subject: DML: Delorean Maintenance Club Hello list! Well, due to the fact that most "technical" information reguarding maintenance/resotration/repair of Deloreans is strewn throughout back issues of Delorean World and the DML, the Delorean FAQ and Delorean technical manuals, I have decided to compile all the information I can find into a new web site (giving proper credit to the sources of course). I will also be documenting my experiences restoring and maintaining my Delorean. I feel the entire Delorean community can benifit from everyone else's experiences as well, and that is why I am asking for submissions from anyone on this list who has done anything to their cars. Anything as little as replacing a light bulb to as big as installing a new engine. There will also be a section for customizing (remote starters, ground effects, etc..). So please, if anyone has anything they can contribute to the content of the site, I would really appreciate it. Email all submissions to firstname.lastname@example.org Delorean Maintenance Club URL: http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/6220 Thanks in advance! Dave Price #16228 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 16:17:16 -0500 From: Marc A Levy Subject: DML: A Yuckey Story. My DMC is at PJ grady, for what I thought was going to be a sort and cheap visit. With a long list of small items to take care of, I also asked Rob to check around the engine, because I had noticed my gas milage dropping. Rob called me today to give me the news.. According to Rob, one of the cyliners has 80% blow by. Should be less than $3000 to replace the rings. AGHAAARHA!!! I think I am going to just drive it that way.. As much as I HATE to do it, $3000 is a heck of a lot of money! Hope I dont break down on the way to Ohio! Marc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 97 09:41:53 -0700 From: James Espey Subject: DML: Action Item - Information link to Cincinnati event I have placed a new link to the fantastic Cincinnati event that Ken Koncelik has planned for this summer. In order to spread the word as much as possible, I encourage everyone to place the same banner/link on their web pages. The HTML to do so is pasted below: Note: Some email clients will display the text above as actual HTML and not the example code. If this applies to you and you need the code, just email me. I thank you, Ken thanks you, and we'll all have a great time in Ohio this summer! James Espey Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List http://www.dmcnews.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 02:31:15 +1000 From: email@example.com (Hiroo Yamada) Subject: DML: Shift change problem A happy new year from Tokyo Japan. I am new to the Delorean mailing list. I recently bought Delorean from my Japanese friend Dr. Ohtsuka who currently lives in IL. The problem is I can't change the gear to first & second. Third to Fifth and reverse was no problem. Does anyone knows this problem ? It's possible to change to first gear when I slightly pull the shift nob and push it, but It's too hard to change to second gear anyway. Thanks in advance. hiroo (Member of DOC: Delorean owners club in Japan) - -- Hiroo Yamada / JK1ASL __________ Internet: firstname.lastname@example.org Active Open Communications K.K ____ NIFTY-Serve: SDI00177 (FMACPRO Sysop) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 04:24:40 +1100 From: DENNIS Subject: DML: updates dor a 81 DELOREAN I just bought a 81' vin#3046 with automatic transmission,what should I do for all updates and recall? THANK YOU! HAPPY NEW YEAR!! DENNIS ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:23:55 -0800 From: "G.E. Weintz" Subject: DML: Re: A Yuckey Story. Hi there Mark, My suggestion - find another mechanic. There is nothing particularly special about doing a top end job on your DMC. You could buy a whole rebuilt motor and have it installed for that kind of money. Don't let the place hose you pal. Phone around a bit. Gary - ---------- > > According to Rob, one of the cyliners has 80% blow by. Should be less > than $3000 to replace the rings. AGHAAARHA!!! > > I think I am going to just drive it that way.. As much as I HATE to do > it, $3000 is a heck of a lot of money! Hope I dont break down on the > way to Ohio! > > Marc > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 97 17:35:35 PST From: "Brandon S. Moody" Subject: DML: Black Again I posted a message a short time ago telling about a product called "Black Again" . It was a UV activated product for use on plactic and vinyl to restore shine. Several have sent e-mail inquiring where to find this stuff. I failed to mention that this is only available at RHINO LININGS dealers. They are the company that uses the Tuff Stuff Polyurethane to coat the bed of pickup trucks. Just check around the yellow pages for a dealer and they should have the product. - -Brandon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 97 18:12:18 PST From: "Brandon S. Moody" Subject: DML: Delorean Wiring Diagram Although still on vacation, I managed to get a friend to go to my shop and take a few photographs of the Wiring Diagram and one of my current projects. The quality of the photographs is nothing to get excited about but it should give you guys an idea of what it looks like. I have had many request for orders already but also several requesting the photo be put on the web for viewing. SO, here it is. http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/7872/ - -Brandon email@example.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 22:43:37 -0500 From: "M. Garrett Frandsen" Subject: DML: DeLorean vs. Corvette Hello all DeLorean Owners, Right now im the owner of a 1991 Chevrolet Camaro Z-28 with over a 130,000 miles on it , it runs fine and I intend to keep the car, but Im looking for another car . I have managed to save around $21,000 and I'm in a rut on which car to buy. Either a 1990-95 Corvette or a real nice DeLorean. If any one has a feed back or would like to compare and contrast the vette-to-the-DeLorean, it would be greatly appreacited. And how accessable and comfortable is DeLorean for some one who is 6'5''. I've sat in a DeLorean a couple of times but i really couldn't tell much. And any vette owners too, i would apreciate any feedback on this subject. THANK-U Garrett Future Vette or DeLorean owner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 97 16:26:00 PST From: Knut S Grimsrud Subject: DML: Oxygen sensor, mixture control, and oxygenated fuels Up here in the Pacific NorthWest, we can only fill up with "oxygenated" fuel during the winter months in order to help curb pollution, and I was wondering what effect this fuel has on engine performance (I notice that my car is a real dog lately). If oxygenated fuel does what it advertises to, it changes the composition of the exhaust gasses (maybe the gasses have a higher oxygen content?). Since the DMC engine uses the composition of the exhaust gasses to control the fuel mixture, I was wondering: 1. What effect does oxygenated fuels have on the voltage produced by the Lambda sensor which monitors the oxygen content of the exhaust gasses? 2. What effect does a resultant change in the Lambda sensor voltage have on the mixture control computer (ECU) and therefore on the air/fuel mixture the engine receives? 3. What effect does confusing the Lambda sensor and messing up the mixture have on performance? 4. Will the exhaust gasses from oxygenated fuels make the computer think the system is running lean and therefore cause it to enrich the mixture too much, or will it make it think the system is running rich and lean it out too much? 5. Is oxygenated fuel in a DMC completely stupid because the emissions increase due to non-ideal air/fuel mixture caused by the fuel's changed exhaust gas composition completely cancels out any potential savings from the "oxygenated" fuel? Knut Grimsrud DeLorean Club of Oregon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:34:59 EST From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Earl A Moreau) Subject: DML: Re: dmcnews-digest V3 #315 Thanks for including me on the mailing list. Earl Moreau VIN#3002 - '81 I will have to replace my head liner, any helpful hints, and information on replacement head liners or aftermarket parts that people have had good luck with. Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 22:48:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Guy V. Boutet" Subject: DML: DMC owners and fans Hello all of you, I would like to wish a very exciting New Year for 1998 to all owners and fans. I also take this opportunity to thank all of the subscribers for their help and thoughts about our cars, mainly James and the other ones who write on a regular basis to help everyone. From Canada, Guy V. Boutet 1981 DMC-12 1984 Eurosport 1987 Supra (all old but nice and fun cars...) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 10:48:03 +0000 From: James Nichols Subject: DML: Modifications I'm amazed that so many people want to buy a Delorean and modify into something that it is not. Although it will simply take another car out of circulation and thus increase the value of our originals. I can't criticize those who add turbos, especially if they live more than 1500 feet above sea level, 6 lb of boost in Colorado Springs simply brings the engine back to sealevel horsepower. It's hard to out-engineer a professional design engineer. Except for a few Lucus parts, (which is not surprising), the car has been extremely reliable for a 15 year old car. If you hang a cast iron, big block in the back, your engine is going to lead the front end into the ditch on every sharp curve. Let's face it, the car was designed to sell for US$12,000 in 1981, though other things drove the selling price to double that. How much "High Tech" could you get for $12,000 in 1981? No one even had 4 valve cylinders, as a production engine. If someone really wants to improve the performance and keep the weight distribution where it should be, how about installing a de-rated PT-6 of about 300HP. If you start with the 750 HP model, you will be able to crank it up a bit if necessary. (You might need a larger fuel tank.) Jim #6884 ------------------------------ End of dmcnews-digest V3 #316 *****************************
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