Friday, January 15 1999 Volume 03 : Number 469
In this issue:
DML: DeLoreans needed for shows in D.C., Dallas, and St. Louis
DML: Re: Door lock "Zilla"
DML: Re: Zilla?
DML: Re: Am I paying too much?
DML: Re: Re: Door lock "Zilla"
DML: Re: installing a fire extinguisher
DML: Oil?
Re: DML: Door lock "Zilla"
Re: DML: installing a fire extinguisher
Re: DML: Oil and oil filter location...
DML: Re: installing a fire extinguisher
Re: DML: Re: Am I paying too much?
Re: DML: Oil?
DML: Re: Oil?
DML: Brakes
DML: Re: installing a fire extinguisher
Re: DML: Oil?
DML: A Beginner's Questions (long)
DML: [admin] Unacceptable postings to the DeLorean Mailing List
DML: 2 Guys A Girl & A Pizza Place
DML: Re: johnny lightning
DML: Re: Oil?
DML: RE: Brakes
Re: DML: Re: Re: Door lock "Zilla"
DML: Attn:Clayton McCoumb
DML: List members in Australia
Re: DML: Re: Re: Door lock "Zilla"
DML: Re: Brakes
Re: DML: Re: Oil?
Re: DML: Re: Oil?
DML: Johnny Lightning, & Intercoolers
DML: Inoperable Door Lights
Re: DML: Door lock "Zilla"
DML: Availability of De Lorean Motor Cars in the UK
DML: Zilla or adjustment
DML: fuel pump relocation
DML: stripe
DML: Re: Brakes
Re: DML: Inoperable Door Lights
DML: [admin] DMC-News Lounge
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 99 10:48:57 -0000 From: James Espey <espey(AT)dmcnews.com> Subject: DML: DeLoreans needed for shows in D.C., Dallas, and St. Louis
This morning I was contacted by Sara Beugen of PGI, and she is in need of a DeLorean for three shows -
Washington, DC - February 5 Dallas, TX - February 19 St.Louis, MO - March 5
I know we have DML'ers in the Dallas and St. Louis area, but am unsure if there are any around the capital.
They must be clean, nice looking original cars. It is my understanding that they will be used as indoor displays and will not be driven. Compensation is negotiable.
For more details, contact:
Sara Beugen (sarachi(AT)aol.com) PGI (312) 335-9595
Tell her you were referred by James Espey, and the DeLorean Mailing List.
James Espey Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List http://www.dmcnews.com
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:47:00 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Door lock "Zilla"
Tom, You have a weak passenger door solenoid, only a replacement or rebuilt unit will correct the problem. DeLorean door lock solenoids burn out because of a poorly designed control unit. The Lockzilla is superior to the factory unit and will allow the locks to work as they were designed and prevent premature solenoid burnouts.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
- ---------- > From: Watkins Family watbmv(AT)megalink.net > To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Subject: DML: Door lock "Zilla" > Date: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 5:25 PM > >The drivers side door lock works fine on both locking and unlocking from >the outside. The passenger side will lock (with the drivers side) when I >exit the car and lock it........BUT when going to UNLOCK from the drivers >side, the passenger side does not unlock. It works sometimes but I wonder >if "Lockzilla" would solve this problem. I'm pretty sure the solenoid is >good as the prior owner had it worked on. Anybody have the same symptom >and has had a Lockzilla put in? Perhaps some bend arms in there >preventing it from unlocking on a consistant basis? Any thoughts > > Tom Watkins > #5732
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:27:16 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Zilla?
Gabriel, Zilla products are after market update kits for several DeLorean electrical components. They are marketed by PJ Grady, call them to for details on all of their products. We highly recommend all of their products.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
- ---------- > From: Gabriel Prado <gprado(AT)netscape.net> > To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Subject: DML: Zilla? > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 12:34 AM > > What is Lockzilla? > >And while we are at it, what are the other *zillas I hear you guys talk >about. > > Thanks, > Gabe
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:31:59 -0600 From: magriese(AT)us.ibm.com Subject: DML: Re: Am I paying too much?
Richard wrote:
>Lisa, > >Congratulations! Welcome to the "group". > >I'd like to know were you got the impression that " the vast >majority of D owners are handsome, sexy, and extremely >intelligent males??"
From all of us handsome, sexy, and extremely intellegent males, of course!
Michael A. Griese Storage Software Development Manager IBM Storage Systems Division Rochester, MN 55901
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:08:00 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Re: Door lock "Zilla"
Dave, The problem with the factory Door Lock Control Module is that the relays inside the unit will stick closed causing the solenoids to overheat and burn out. The test you did will not harm the solenoids as long as you only apply an intermittent shot of 12 volts. To prevent good solenoids from being destroyed we recommend that owners disconnect their lock modules. The only solution to this problem is to install the Lockzilla.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
- ---------- > From: Dave Price <davep2(AT)clipper.net> > To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Subject: DML: Re: Door lock "Zilla" > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 2:59 AM > > I was having a similar problem.. I pulled the interior trim off the doors, > and manually applied voltage to the solenoids.. The driver's side solenoid > worked for closing and opening and the passenger side only worked one > way.. > Go figure.. I'd try that yourself and determine if it's your control > module or the solenoid... > > Can anyone tell me if this is a good way to test, or if damage could > occur? > (My locks weren't working so I thought "what the hay..") > > - Dave
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:10:19 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: installing a fire extinguisher
Mike, The passenger side is the way to go, the drivers side contains the main lighting wiring harness.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
- ---------- > From: mike atkinson <mikeatk(AT)concentric.net> > To: DMCNews <dmcnews(AT)world.std.com> > Subject: DML: installing a fire extinguisher > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 4:45 AM > > I would like to mount a fire extinguisher to one of the walls in the > trunk and would like to know if there is a preferred way of going about > it. The aft wall on the right hand side looks to be the best area to do > it, however I'm not sure what's behind there and don't want to start > drilling holes until I do. > > Couldn't find anything in the archives on this. If anybody has done > this I would appreciate a little advise. > > Thanks > > Mike Atkinson > vin 16232 > > mikeatk(AT)concentric.net
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:03:55 EST From: Msstrygrl(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: Oil?
Any opinions on the best type of oil for the D? My D has 68 thousand miles on it, in case that makes a difference. Also, I can't figure out where the oil filter is. (Maybe it's because I'm still a little delirious.) Can someone prod me in the right direction?
Thanks, Lisa
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:42:08 -0800 From: Ben Krasnow <kraz(AT)wco.com> Subject: Re: DML: Door lock "Zilla"
I had EXACTLY the same problem. I took off the interior trim panel, and greased (using spray grease) all of the little arms and pivots in the locking system. It fixed the poroblem, and it works perfectly now, even in really cold weather. I kind of thought that a sticking mechanism was the problem because I could see the passenger lock lever move a little when activated from the driver's side, but never fully unlock. Also, check to make sure the electrical switch is working on the driver's side (to make sure the solenoid is actually getting the signal to unlock on the passenger's side.) Good luck
> The drivers side door lock works fine on both locking and unlocking from > the outside. The passenger side will lock (with the drivers side) when I > exit the car and lock it........BUT when going to UNLOCK from the drivers > side, the passenger side does not unlock. It works sometimes but I wonder > if "Lockzilla" would solve this problem. I'm pretty sure the solenoid is > good as the prior owner had it worked on. Anybody have the same symptom > and has had a Lockzilla put in? Perhaps some bend arms in there > preventing it from unlocking on a consistant basis? Any thoughts
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:47:13 -0000 From: James Espey <espey(AT)dmcnews.com> Subject: Re: DML: installing a fire extinguisher
Mike wrote:
> From: mike atkinson <mikeatk(AT)concentric.net> > To: DMCNews <dmcnews(AT)world.std.com> > Subject: DML: installing a fire extinguisher > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 4:45 AM > > I would like to mount a fire extinguisher to one of the walls in the > trunk and would like to know if there is a preferred way of going about > it. The aft wall on the right hand side looks to be the best area to do > it, however I'm not sure what's behind there and don't want to start > drilling holes until I do. > > Couldn't find anything in the archives on this. If anybody has done > this I would appreciate a little advise.
I don't know if I would choose the luggage compartment to store a fire extinguisher - I have mine in the passenger compartment with me so I can get to it quickly. I think the areas that have the highest likelihood of fires are the engine compartment and the relay area behind the passenger seat. I don't know that I would want to take the time to pop the hood, exit the car, raise the hood remove the extinguisher and then fight the flames...
James Espey #10570
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:53:47 -0000 From: James Espey <espey(AT)dmcnews.com> Subject: Re: DML: Oil and oil filter location...
On 1/13/99 10:11 PM, "Lisa the delirious one" shared these fine thoughts...
>Any opinions on the best type of oil for the D? My D has 68 thousand miles on >it, in case that makes a difference. Also, I can't figure out where the oil >filter is. (Maybe it's because I'm still a little delirious.) Can someone >prod me in the right direction? > >Thanks, >Lisa
I would say that it depends mostly on the climate you are in - here in Phoenix, I use 10W30 in all my cars.
As far as filter location, look under the rear of your car at the passenger side. It'll be on that side of the block.
If you haven't already, you may want to take some time and download the DeLorean Factory Parts Manual from the DMC-News website. It's in Adobe Acrobat format, so you'll need the free Adobe Acrobat Reader from the Adobe website (www.adobe.com). The parts manual have great "exploded" diagrams of the car listing part names and numbers, which is also useful when ordering parts.
James Espey #10570
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:51:05 -0700 From: scottmueller(AT)zebra.net (Scott Mueller) Subject: DML: Re: installing a fire extinguisher
I keep my fire extinguisher on the shelf behind the drivers seat where I can easily get to it. If you are in a wreck, are you going to be able to get to it if it is in the trunk?
Scott Mueller
- -----Original Message----- From: mike atkinson <mikeatk(AT)concentric.net> To: DMCNews <dmcnews(AT)world.std.com> Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 9:22 AM Subject: DML: installing a fire extinguisher
>I would like to mount a fire extinguisher to one of the walls in the SNipped
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:57:32 -0500 From: haldeman <haldeman(AT)fuse.net> Subject: Re: DML: Re: Am I paying too much?
To mystery girl Lisa -
When I drive my son's D, then I am handsome, sexy and extremely intelligent. Then again, he must always be, since he managed to talk me into co-signing his loan to buy it! - Welcome aboard - it's a great car! And all your reasons for driving it are right on!
David Haldeman VIN 5102
Msstrygrl(AT)aol.com wrote:
> Thanks to everyone who emailed me and helped me get a better sense of > what to > offer. I made my offer of 10K last night and it was accepted so in two > hours > I'll be leaving to pick up my new car. (yeeeees!!!!) I'm sure all of you > were > extremely excited to get your Delorean, but I feel like it's my wedding > day or > something. Never thought of myself as a materialistic person before, but I > suppose I just needed to meet the right car... Are there any other ladies > who > own Ds besides myself? Or is it true that the vast majority of D owners > are > handsome, sexy, and extremely intelligent males?? Well?? > > But actually I really am wondering what sort of person is drawn to this > car. > Are you all die hard nonconformists like me? Do all of you like the > attention, > or do some of you own it just because you enjoy it's elegant looks...? >
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 16:01:17 -0800 From: Ben Krasnow <kraz(AT)wco.com> Subject: Re: DML: Oil?
I used 10W-40, mainly because I live in California (The hotter the climate the thicker the oil you should use). The Volvo dealer recommended that I use 10W-30 the next time I change the oil (Why, I don't know). Some people swear by synthetic oils, which do have great characteristics and will outperform any natural oil, however it costs quite a bit more than natural. The expense of the oil comes into play since the Delorean holds about 7 quarts! The filter itself is located on the right side of the engine, toward the bottom, near the alternator. It will probably be cleaner than the parts surrounding it. If you're planning on doing the job yourself, you will need a special tool to get the drain plug out. I have a bench grinder, so I just got an old allen wrench that I didn't like anymore, and ground it into a 8mm square (or whatever size it is). Good luck
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:33:12 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Oil?
Lisa, The oil filter is located at the right side lower part of the engine block. We recommend Castrol 10 W/ 30 but any high grade product will do. You will need 7 quarts to fill the system including the filter. If you are doing the change yourself refill the system with 6.5 quarts and than top off the system according to the dip stick so as not to overfill the system.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
- ---------- > From: Msstrygrl(AT)aol.com > To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Subject: DML: Oil? > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 5:03 PM > > Any opinions on the best type of oil for the D? My D has 68 thousand miles on > it, in case that makes a difference. Also, I can't figure out where the oil > filter is. (Maybe it's because I'm still a little delirious.) Can someone > prod me in the right direction? > > Thanks, > Lisa
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:37:43 MST From: "Adam Michael" <amichael10(AT)hotmail.com> Subject: DML: Brakes
We're having a problem with our brakes, they don't work! I remember a little while ago someone saying something about DOT 3 brake fluid "eating up" the brake systems on DeLoreans. Is this true? If that's the case, then we know why our brakes failed. :( They were leaking a little when we bought the car, but instead of getting them fixed right away, we just kept refilling the tanks with brake fluid. The problem is, we used DOT 3 oil. Oops. So, is the problem that we used the wrong oil, or is it just a broken seal and so much air has gotten into the system that they won't work? We'd like to know so we might save some money only buying a new seal instead of a whole new system. Thanks in advance!
Adam Michael, VIN#1428 The DeLorean Corner: http://members.tripod.com/~DeLoreanDMC/index.html
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:49:34 -0600 From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: installing a fire extinguisher
>I would like to mount a fire extinguisher to one of the walls in the >trunk and would like to know if there is a preferred way of going about >it. >Thanks > >Mike Atkinson >vin 16232
I have a halon extiguisher mounted on the floor next to the emergency brake lever. The trunk is a bit inaccessable in a real emergency.
Bruce Benson
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:56:44 -0600 From: DON GOWLER <dongowler(AT)mediaone.net> Subject: Re: DML: Oil?
Lisa, use synthetic oil such as Mobil 1 15W-50. The oil filter is behind the rear right (passenger) wheel just below and ahead of the engines altenator.
Regards, The Silver Fox
Msstrygrl(AT)aol.com wrote:
> Any opinions on the best type of oil for the D? My D has 68 thousand miles on > it, in case that makes a difference. Also, I can't figure out where the oil > filter is. (Maybe it's because I'm still a little delirious.) Can someone > prod me in the right direction? > > Thanks, > Lisa
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:06:40 -0600 From: Jayson Tobias <tobias(AT)midusa.net> Subject: DML: A Beginner's Questions (long)
Hi, my name is Jayson Tobias, and I became somewhat of a Delorean owner = 2 weeks ago. Since I am going away to college in two years, my father = bought a 1981 (The year I was born) Delorean #01071 as a father-son = bonding project. I say I am somewhat of an owner because this is mostly = his money, and the vehicle has been wrecked, making it somewhat of a = Delorean. I have a ton of questions to ask, and I hope this Mailing = List is the proper forum in which to do so. =20 First of all, what is the best place(s) to buy parts? And by parts, I = am specifically referring to a L/F fender (that'll cost me), front = fiberglass section, hood, nose cone etc., door seals, electrical odds = and ends, carpeting, and a new seat. Perhaps I should narrow it down a = bit. If I had to rank attributes, I would have to go compatibility (of = course), then cost (reasonability, used is great), and finally OEM = components. We will tackle almost all repairs, so that should lessen = the cost quite a bit. That, of course, was no complete list. With my = list of parts, I guess it's not too hard to tell where it was smacked. Second, is there a place to talk with Delorean owners in real time? I = would love to chat with everyone without having to play e-mail tag. Is = that what the lounge at DMC News is for? Next, just out of curiosity, are there any D owners near central = Kansas? The last time and only time I've seen a D was in Kansas City in = '92. (I'm so deprived) Is there a CD-ROM that contains things such as Parts, Owner, Tech, and = Service Manuals? I've heard of a DeLorean Collection CD-ROM, but I = didn't know if it has been released yet. Finally, rather than starting some huge thread with all of my = questions, if you would prefer, send e-mail to tobias(AT)midusa.net. Any = help would be greatly appreciated, as I have a lot to do to this = vehicle. Thanks everyone!
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 99 23:17:31 -0000 From: James Espey <espey(AT)dmcnews.com> Subject: DML: [admin] Unacceptable postings to the DeLorean Mailing List
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:24:37 -0500 From: bttfdmc(AT)connect.ab.ca Subject: DML: 2 Guys A Girl & A Pizza Place
On Wednesday, January 13 on the ABC sitcom 2 GUYS A GIRL AND A PIZZA PLACE, there was mention of a delorean.
Randy
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:39:22 -0800 From: "Jim (PP)" <jjeisner(AT)ix.netcom.com> Subject: DML: Re: johnny lightning
I was able to find two of the Johnny Lightning BTTF cars at my local Toys R Us just a couple of days before Christmas. They were about $5. They say they get shipments in every couple of weeks, but I got the last two there at the time. I have been back once a few days ago to check but have not found any more -- just the Dragnet, Blues Bros. and the Monkeys cars. Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that's interested in the cars: they have hit the stores!!! Also, they are the best of the BTTF Delorean die-casts out there.
- -Jim
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 04:09:39 EST From: Msstrygrl(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: Re: Oil?
Thanks Silver Fox, but isn't 15w50 awfully thick? Or do I have it backwards? I thought 10-30 is the thinner oil and 15-50 is the heavier, thicker stuff. (obviously I'm not eactly an expert on cars -- yet!) The climate where I live (S.F. Bay Area) is in the moderate range. So wouldn't perhaps 10W40 be a good pick for me?
Lisa VIN 1353
P.S. Thanks everyone for helping me find the oil filter. It's really not that hard to find at all...ya just have to get on that dirty ole garage floor!
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 03:29:05 -0500 From: Gerald Deutsch <Jerry1(AT)eclipse.net> Subject: DML: RE: Brakes
If you were losing fluid, and gradually losing braking pressure, I'd = venture to guess that you need a new master cylinder. Sounds like the = seal is bad. It's not worth rebuilding. It's $175 from PJ Grady. I got = mine and it works great! Good luck!!! ---Dan
- ---------- >From: Adam Michael[SMTP:amichael10(AT)hotmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 7:37 PM >To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com >Subject: DML: Brakes > >We're having a problem with our brakes, they don't work! I remember a=20 >little while ago someone saying something about DOT 3 brake fluid=20 >"eating up" the brake systems on DeLoreans. Is this true? If that's the=20 >case, then we know why our brakes failed. :( They were leaking a little=20 >when we bought the car, but instead of getting them fixed right away, we = > >just kept refilling the tanks with brake fluid. The problem is, we used=20 >DOT 3 oil. Oops. So, is the problem that we used the wrong oil, or is it = > >just a broken seal and so much air has gotten into the system that they=20 >won't work? We'd like to know so we might save some money only buying a=20 >new seal instead of a whole new system. Thanks in advance! > > Adam Michael, VIN#1428 >The DeLorean Corner: http://members.tripod.com/~DeLoreanDMC/index.html
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:01:51 +0000 From: Albert Siegel <siegel(AT)bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: DML: Re: Re: Door lock "Zilla"
I never lock my doors when I drive so as the DeLorean GODs like to play jokes on me I got locked inside my car. I was on my way to work when for no reason my doors just locked. I thought no big deal.. I'll just unlock the doors.. Darn!!! the doors wont unlock! so I pulled the cables from the relay compartment just to get out. I never did reconnect the power locks. Now, half the time I have hard time unlocking the passenger door. I must force the lock to the unlock position and hold it there and open the door just to unlock it. I cant even use the key out of fear of bending it.
Albert Siegel vin# 2009
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:44:19 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Beaumont <mb007_97(AT)yahoo.com> Subject: DML: Attn:Clayton McCoumb
If someone by the name of Clayton McCoumb who lives in Eastern Canada is reading this, Help. I read your ad for your 1981 Delorean and I wanted to know if you have sold it yet. If not, I may be interested so email me ASAP. If any one else has or knows of a Delorean for sale, contact me. Thanks.
mb007_97(AT)yahoo.com
Mike Beaumont
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:44:57 +1000 From: "Brad Gaffy" <gaffy(AT)eisa.net.au> Subject: DML: List members in Australia
Hi to All,
I was wondering how many List members are in Australia. In particular if any live in Queensland.
regards
Brad Gaffy
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:45:52 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: DML: Re: Re: Door lock "Zilla"
Albert, Your door lock problem is due to burnt lock solenoid, to correct this problem just remove the lock solenoid from the passenger door and you will find that both the key and interior lock switch will operate smoothly. To restore the locking system to its original design you will need to install the Lockzilla.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
- ---------- > From: Albert Siegel <siegel(AT)bellsouth.net> > To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Subject: Re: DML: Re: Re: Door lock "Zilla" > Date: Thursday, January 14, 1999 5:01 AM > > I never lock my doors when I drive so as the DeLorean GODs like to play > jokes on me I got locked inside my car. I was on my way to work when > for no reason my doors just locked. I thought no big deal.. I'll just > unlock the doors.. Darn!!! the doors wont unlock! so I pulled the > cables from the relay compartment just to get out. I never did > reconnect the power locks. Now, half the time I have hard time > unlocking the passenger door. I must force the lock to the unlock > position and hold it there and open the door just to unlock it. I cant > even use the key out of fear of bending it. > > > Albert Siegel > vin# 2009 >
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:03:25 -0500 From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE(AT)worldnet.att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Brakes
Adam, It takes some time for the DOT 3 to break down the seals, here is what you should try before taking any drastic measures. First pump out all of the DOT 3 that is in the system than refill with DOT 4 and air bleed the system. Let us know what happens.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services / dmcjoe(AT)att.net
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:17:16 -0600 From: DON GOWLER <dongowler(AT)mediaone.net> Subject: Re: DML: Re: Oil?
Lisa, the 15 is the thin number and you would want as low as number as possible in cold weather. The opposite is true for the 50, the thick number, - the higher the temperature the thicker you want that oil. The 15w50 was recommended for the Chicago area. Frankly I don't drive my cars in the winter or in the terribly hot summer so I could get away with 30.
Regards, The Silver Fox
Msstrygrl(AT)aol.com wrote:
> Thanks Silver Fox, but isn't 15w50 awfully thick? Or do I have it > backwards? I thought 10-30 is the thinner oil and 15-50 is the heavier, > thicker stuff. (obviously I'm not eactly an expert on cars -- yet!) The > climate where I > live (S.F. Bay Area) is in the moderate range. So wouldn't perhaps 10W40 > be a > good pick for me? > > Lisa
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:22:04 -0500 (EST) From: William T Wilson <fluffy(AT)snurgle.org> Subject: Re: DML: Re: Oil?
On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 Msstrygrl(AT)aol.com wrote:
> Thanks Silver Fox, but isn't 15w50 awfully thick? Or do I have it
Not in a hot climate, especially if it's synthetic. Synthetic oils are that much better. :} I wouldn't use it in Alaska, though. As a rule, synthetic oils aren't necessary unless you are driving very hard or don't change your oil on schedule.
> (S.F. Bay Area) is in the moderate range. So wouldn't perhaps 10W40 be a > good pick for me?
No. use 10w30. 10w40 oil is much more prone to thermal breakdown. In general, you want the smallest gap between viscosity ratings you can get.
Multi-viscosity oils work by mixing the regular oil with polymers which help hold the oil together in hotter conditions. But the bigger the gap between numbers, the more polymers are needed. And the more polymers you have in your oil, the easier it is to break down, as well as some other minor problems as well. In addition it is harder to keep such oils flowing at very cold temperatures. It won't hurt your car (which was after all originally designed to use it), however, 10w40 is not a better oil than 10w30.
Although 10w40 was the waning standard at the time of the DeLorean's manufacture, it has been seen that it really isn't necessary in most cases. By the mid-80's everyone was using 10w30. Very few manufacturers actually recommend 10w40 any more, and much of the time use of 10w40 will actually void a new-car warranty. Just say no.
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:08:03 -0800 From: Robert Rooney <DMCVegas(AT)ix.netcom.com> Subject: DML: Johnny Lightning, & Intercoolers
Thanks for the feed back that I recieved for my intercooler designs. Right now I'm working on improving the design, and as soon as I get it finished, I'll post it. Recently, I acquired a photo of the legend set up, & as soon as I can, I will post it (Thank you to John Heflin: http://asbestosrockpile.8m.com ). Also, if you're looking for the Johnny Lightning "Back to the Future" die cast car, I've got some good news, bad news, & some REALLY bad news! The good news is that the cars are available in toy stores right now, the bad news is that not every toy store carries them, and that those that do are usually sold out. EVERYBODY wants this car! (I have been to Toys "R" Us, Kay Bee, and even F.A.O. Schwatz at Caesars Palce and only found 1! Now the Really bad news, each car comes with a trading card from the movie, and each card has a different scene on it! So if you just want the DeLorean itself, no problem, but if you want to "Collect 'Em All", good luck!
- -Robert
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:13:55 EST From: MBell14632(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: Inoperable Door Lights
I am unable to determine why the door lights on the drivers side do not operate. All other lighting circuits are functioning. Any suggestions?
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:52:44 EST From: Jimbo0946(AT)aol.com Subject: Re: DML: Door lock "Zilla"
How do you take off the interior trim panel?
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:53:18 -0500 From: Aldo.Buono(AT)phila.gov Subject: DML: Availability of De Lorean Motor Cars in the UK
Responding to Mikael Evans of South Wales:
In the January, 1999, issue of Classic and Sports Car magazine, on
page 183, there is a 1981 De Lorean listed for 30,000 British Pounds.
This D has made an appearance at one of your major car shows, and I
believe it is owned by a member of the UK club.
Classic and Sports Car is the finest automobile magazine published
in
the UK, and imo the finest automobile magazine published in the
world.
Stateside subscriptions are available. Email me privately for
details.
Aldo Buono, President
De Lorean Midatlantic
P.S.: I am putting out another call for part interchanges. If my
club
publishes your contribution, you will receive a complimentary copy
of
the revised list in April, 1999. Send to: De Lorean Midatlantic,
515 W. Chelten Ave, Suite 1009 Philadelphia PA 19144 USA
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:04:42 -0700 Tom true your solonoids may have been worked on but I replaced both of mine From: bhs(AT)inconnect.com Subject: DML: Zilla or adjustment
with replacements from Rob Grady and my passenger side would still not come unlocked My problem was that my passenger side needed to be adjusted. Just a thought Dave goood luck Sender: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com Precedence: list Reply-To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:30:08 EST From: CBL302(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: fuel pump relocation
I was wondering if the electric fuel pump can be moved from the fuel tank,to a better spot,such as some where inside the frame rail,I just don't like the idea of mixing electricity and gas fumes together,also could I install a after-market exterior type electric fuel pump on a delorean,and if not how come?
Claude 000570
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:47:06 +0100 From: Mats Karlsson <ford.prefect(AT)hehe.com> Subject: DML: stripe
Hi,
I was kust wondering what the thin grey stripe looks like. Does anyone have any pictures? I have seen lots of pics of cars with the thick black one and the DMC logo, but none with the thin grey line...
Thanks /Matt
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:10:08 EST From: Msstrygrl(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: Re: Brakes
I get soft spots in my brake pedal and the brakes are generally not as strong as I think they should be. I bled them last night and it made no improvement. Someone mentioned that it could be a bad seal in the master cylinder. Is that the next thing I should check? And is it hard to get to?
Thanks... Lisa VIN 1353
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 18:26:15 -0500 From: David Sontos <sontos(AT)ibm.net> Subject: Re: DML: Inoperable Door Lights
Assuming the bulbs were checked and are good, check the wires on the door button under the dash by the edge of the door, check if the wires are unplugged from the switch or the switch contacts are dirty. The door light switch wires are purple and red, and black w/o stripe. The other set of wires are for the door open buzzer and are purple and red, and black with a white stripe. I may be off a shade in the color spectrum due to some color blindness but this is probably your problem. I am also assuming your interior lights do not come on when you open the drivers side door.
MBell14632(AT)aol.com wrote:
> I am unable to determine why the door lights on the drivers side do not > operate. All other lighting circuits are functioning. Any suggestions? >
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:48:20 -0000 From: James Espey <espey(AT)dmcnews.com> Subject: DML: [admin] DMC-News Lounge
Mike Substelny and I hit a snafu in updating the access file for the DMC-News Lounge. I expect it will be a few weeks yet before it is available. I will post a message when it is ready again.
James Espey Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List http://www.dmcnews.com
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