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Tuesday, 2 July 1996 Volume 02 : Number 136
In this issue:
Mechanics, engine family tree
Re: AMEX Gold Delorean
Re: Door Struts & Torsion Bar
Auto won't use 3rd
Re: Black Side Stripe
Wont start
Cross Reference for Lights ??
Re: Broke Brakes.
Halogen Brake Lights
A/C Fan Velocity
Re: Wont start
Re: Auto won't use 3rd
Re: Wont start
A little whine with my DeLorean?
Re: A/C Fan Velocity
Episode of Matlock with Delorean car!
Re: Wont start
Re: Re: Door Struts & Torsion Bar
Re: AMEX Gold Delorean
Re: DeLorean values
Re: A little whine with my DeLorean?
Re: Episode of Matlock with Delorean car!
Re: Episode of Matlock with Delorean car!
Re: won't start, blower, Matlock
5-Speed Slider Gear/Delorean One
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From: Mike Substelny, SUBSTEM(AT)cesmtp.ccf.org
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:31:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Mechanics, engine family tree
>Also, what kind of luck have the readers of this list had with
>getting service or modifications done by local, independent
>mechanics, versus nationwide chain service centers?
Absolutely get a copy of the service manual, and get the
parts manual too if you can. Although the parts manual is no
longer useful for ordering your parts from the plant in Belfast,
it has the best "how-this-part-fits-with-that-part" diagrams I
have ever seen.
Note that the DeLorean, though complex, has many well
designed and straightforward systems. Routine operations
like replacing headlights, tires and sparkplugs are not
especially challenging for any mechanic or owner. Then
there's the engine. Most mechanics have seen the DeLorean
engine before. Everyone knows that Volvo used the same
engine, but did you know a version of it was used in an
AMERICAN car for years?
Any mechanic who is experienced with the Eagle Premier, a
fairly common car, has seen a 3.0 liter version of the
DeLorean engine! If you have neither DeLorean nor Volvo
mechanic nearby, find one who has worked on the Premier.
He should be able to perform tune-ups and normal engine
service competently. He may be lost if you need work on
your suspension, doors, or electrical system, though.
I wonder, has anyone installed the supposedly more powerful
Eagle Premier engine in a DeLorean? From the outside it
looks like a perfect fit, but I'm not sure. I have considered
buying a used Premier just to save the engine in case I ever
need it. They are pretty cheap these days. One of the other
cool features of the Premier is its styling, somewhat
DeLoreanesque, identified by a tag on the front bumper that
says "Design Guigiaro." Guigiaro also did the styling for the
DeLorean.
BTW I know someone with a Premier. It has 160,000 miles
on it and it still has plenty of pep. It's as reliable as heck.
He feels confident that he could drive the car coast-to-coast
any time.
- -Mike Substelny
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From: Don_Gowler-CFPO01(AT)email.mot.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:04:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: AMEX Gold Delorean
That gold car in Texas has an enormous price tag on it now. Spoke with a broker
recently and he said the family that own it wanted around $250K. I told him the
price of gold had not changed and the car prices had gone down making this car
worth less than it's original $75K. Curious to see how they make out.
Regards, The Silver Fox (who was just curious about Gold)
Chase wrote:
>>It's advertised in Stephen's ad for $125,000 in the current DW
>Hey, if I had that much money lying around, I'd probably just go for the
>American Express Gold DeLorean sitting in the lobby of a bank in Snyder, TX.
>And I thought refusing to sell my DeLorean for less than $35,000 was
>hilarious. I know, this one of Wynne's is a factory original prototype and
>therefore worth more, but $125,000!?!
>~ Chase
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From: Don_Gowler-CFPO01(AT)email.mot.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:24:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Door Struts & Torsion Bar
>BTW, is it possible to adjust the torsion bar without obtaining a special
>tool to do so? My passenger side door is quite overly aggressive and will
>rock the car if allowed to open freely. I'd like to adjust it, but someone
>told me a special tool is needed and I have never seen it listed in any
>DeLorean catalogs. Any help on the tools needed and procedure to do so
>will be most appreciated.
>
>~ Chase
The only special tool I'm aware of to adjust the door torsion bar is a hex
driver on either a 3/8 or 1/2 inch socket drive. The real trick is of course
having someone hold the torsion bar in it's wound up position with this tool on
the end of a long extension and super long handled swing bar while you adjust
the multi grooved alignment plate that surrounds the end of the torsion bar
where the hex driver fits and fastens to the cars body to hold the torsion bar
under tension. One other special tool is the home made wooden socket drive
alignment contraption and door holder that was featured in a real early
DeLorean World magazine. It would pay you to get this article first.
Be real careful and good luck. The Silver Fox
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From: Curtis C.Ballard, curtisb(AT)gr.hp.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:00:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Auto won't use 3rd
First of all I would like to say thanks to everybody who suggested that I
check the rubber boot around my fuel pump. I pulled it out this weekend
and nothing had fallen off, but it was badly softened and quite a few
pieces were loose. I picked off all of the loose stuff and replaced the
return hose which was broken. I also changed the fuel filter and found
that the pipe was stuck in the filter and the previous owner had taken the
cap off the elbow then beat on it until the cap wouldn't go back on and had
given up with the pipe just stuck there. I got it off and cleaned the
fitting up as good as I could then put it back on. Leaks about 1
drop/minute at an idle. Should be ok until I can get a new fitting. Are
the fuel lines a standard size or do I have to buy a strange fitting for this?
The problem of the day that has me really concerned however is that after
putting the car back together yesterday I took it for a drive. In about 10
miles it never would shift to 3rd, so I stopped and shifted to park and sat
for a few seconds then took off again and it worked fine. This morning I
drove it to work to see how it was going to do and could never get it to
shift to 3rd. I pulled the dip-stick and it had oil on it, but I didn't
have a rag so couldn't get a good measurement. I also didn't see any
indication of how you are supposed to check the oil. Should it be idling
in park? Is this a common problem? The only causes I could think of are
low oil, linkage adjustment, or tranny going out.
I'm supposed to drive this car 750 miles tomorrow and would hate to do it
in 2nd, but I need to get this car back to Idaho.
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Curtis C. Ballard
(970) 350-4014
Hewlett Packard
curtisb(AT)gr.hp.com
Storage Systems Operation R&D Lab Greeley, CO
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From: mikasa, mikasa(AT)goodnet.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:06:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Black Side Stripe
>I put an inquiry as to the meaning of the black stripe down the
>center of my fathers DeLorean and recieved a reply:
>>This stripe was a prototype style, it is not avaliable to buy aftermarket,
>>it comes with the car and there were only about 100 made with this
>>stripe....
>Is this true? As I understood it, the decal was a dealer option.
According to what I have read and been told, this is NOT true. The wide
black stripe and the narrow gray stripe were dealer options, along with
the luggage racks, car covers and sheepskins. I just bought one of the
narrow gray stripes from DeLorean One, new in the box, and know for a
fact that the black stripes are available also. KAPAC has them both, also.
James
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From: SCiszek(AT)aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:06:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Wont start
Its been about 4 weeks now and I have not started the car. We had to
take out the A/C mode switch and send it off to be repaired expecting it to
be fixed in a matter of days. But, the days turned into weeks and when my
father and I decided to start the car after a few weeks of dormancy nothing
happened. At first we heard a repetitive clicking noise coming form the relay
compartment but that sound has since gone. I have checked that the starter
soleniod modification has been preformed on the car as the service bulletin
states that a problem with there not being enough voltage to the starter is
accompanied by a clicking noise from the relays. Could this problem have
anything to do with the fact that the center console is removed or the
fact that the mode switch is not attached?
-Scott Ciszek
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From: Chase Clark, stormrider(AT)socketis.net
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:09:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Cross Reference for Lights ??
Does anyone know of cross-reference numbers for the light bulbs in the
rear
light assemblies. Once I remove mine to do the "nut and bolt" fix, I
thought I might replace the bulbs at the same time, but I know that none
of
the local auto shops have bulbs with numbers like P 25-1.
Thanks!
~ Chase
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From: mal(AT)hocpa.ho.att.com
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:38:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Broke Brakes.
Richard:
It is possible that your bake fluid has some moisture in one of the lines.
Based on the temperature, the fluid will compress in a different way
because
of the water.
There is a nice web page that gives good tips and instructions on break
bleeding.
http://www.xnet.com/~mikesc/SHObleedingbrakes.htm
True, this is a Ford SHO page, but I also own a Taurus SHO. This
information is useful for any car.
Good Luck!
Marc
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From: Chase Clark, stormrider(AT)socketis.net
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:49:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Halogen Brake Lights
While I am on the subject. Has anyone every tried to install Halogen brake
lights into the stock DeLorean rear ligth assemblies. I'd love to use
those
much-brighter bulbs instead, but wonder if they will fit as well as not
cause further electrical problems?
~ Chase
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From: BRS6688(AT)ACS.TAMU.EDU
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:13:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: A/C Fan Velocity
Mike Substelny--
Your a/c fan blows like a hurricane? I am extremely jealous. I live in
central Texas and right now the temperature regularily tops 100 degrees.
On top of this my a/c fan moves so little air that the a/c is practically
useless. Not a good thing--esp. down here. My question is: Did you do
anything to achieve this the greater airflow? (Anyone else out there with
some info PLEASE feel free to jump in) Or is this simply what came with
the car?
I've checked all the flaps, vents, etc. They are working fine. The only
two
things I can come up with are either the blower motor in the car is a
fake,
or I have a clogged evaporator. I've done some checking of the evaporator
and it seems to be unclogged. So that would leave the fan.
Has anyone out there ever upgraded their a/c system? I hopethat this is
not the best the car can do, or else this is going to be a very long, hot
summer.
Thanks for any info.
Burton
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From: Chase Clark, stormrider(AT)socketis.net
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 00:38:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Wont start
Having the mode switch removed will cause a good size vacuum leak in your
car, although I don't see how that would keep the car from starting. It
should just cause the engine to run rough would be my guess. Another thing
you might check, though, is the fuel pump relay. It is a standard Volvo
relay, but cost in the neighborhood of $30-$50 to buy a new one. I know as
I replaced mine and learned that wasn't the problem so now I have a spare
one just in case I ever need it.
~ Chase
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From: Ddl52(AT)aol.com
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 00:40:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Auto won't use 3rd
Curtis, I had a similiar problem with the transmission on my Delorean. (It
wouldn't shift into 3rd). The governor/computer was found to be defective.
Another area to check would be the solenoid shift valves and wiring.
Hopefully it would be a wiring problem as the governor assembly is quite
expensive.
Dennis
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From: Chase Clark, stormrider(AT)socketis.net
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 00:40:54 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Wont start
Chris:
Here's a Reposting of a letter a couple of months ago from Garry Hewitt in
regards to cars that won't start. Maybe it will help you out. BTW, I know
it's an obvious thing, but I always overlook the obvious myself, is the
battery charged and none of the fuses blown.
When my car wasn't running it was similar to yours in a way. At first it
turned over but never fired. After a lot of that all I got was a clicking
noise because the battery was weak and then nothing at all a few weeks
later as it was totally drained by a slow power leak somewhere yet to be
identified.
~ Chase
>From: Garry Hewitt, Garry(AT)icecream.demon.co.uk
>Subject: Re: dmcnews-digest V2 #78
>
>I suffered from difficult starting and the ignominy of being
>jump-started several times in public before sussing out
>my problem. What would happen is when turning the
>ignition key, all the dash lights went dim and I could
>here the starter relay clicking. This turned out to be a
>rusted earth connection where the battery earth wire
>joins the chassis. After having it removed by blowtorch
>(The same bolt is one of two holding the suspension
>trailing arm on so I wanted it replaced) I did not have
>any more problems for 3-4 years. However yesterday when I
>went to see the car for its fortnightly Winter run, I had the same
>thing again. After getting it running by jump-start etc, I felt under
>the car and lo and behold- one very hot connection
>indicating high resistance-> bad earth. What I plan to do when (if)
>Summer returns is remove this earth lead entirely and run a longer one
>directly to the block- there is already one from the
>block to the chassis which I will leave in place. So, if
>anyone has any starting/charging problems, check/clean
>all positive and negative leads from
>battery/chassis/block/alternator before looking at
>replacing other expensive and time consuming bits.
>
>Garry Hewitt
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From: James Espey, mikasa(AT)goodnet.com
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:22:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: A little whine with my DeLorean?
Just in the past day or so my DeLorean has started to whine - literally.
A *very* high pitched whine, louder when the motor is off and key
removed,
sounds like it coming from under the drivers side of the dash. Seems to
increase in volume with the door open, and decreases/changes pitch when I
depress the door switches. I'm thinking a vacuum leak, right?
This is bizarre - I've never seen or heard of this before, has anyone
else?
James
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From: Marvin Sterling, marv930(AT)ix.netcom.com
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:23:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: A/C Fan Velocity
You wrote:
>
>Mike Substelny--
>Your a/c fan blows like a hurricane? I am extremely jealous. I live in
>central Texas and right now the temperature regularily tops 100 degrees.
>On top of this my a/c fan moves so little air that the a/c is practically
>useless. Not a good thing--esp. down here. My question is: Did you do
>anything to achieve this the greater airflow? (Anyone else out there with
>some info PLEASE feel free to jump in) Or is this simply what came with
>the car?
>Thanks for any info.
>Burton
>
- ---------------------reply
Sorry Burt:
Mine also blows like a hurricane. Guess it's what came with the car.
Marv.
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From: Scott Tester, testersd(AT)appstate.campus.mci.net
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:23:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Episode of Matlock with Delorean car!
I was watching television about a year ago and Matlock came on. I sat and watched
as Andy Griffith and Don Knotts were reunited. Don decided he wanted to
purchase a car of his own. So Andy and Don went to a car dealership and looked around.
Low and behold the dealer introduced Don to the Delorean. As always Andy did not think it
was a good idea for Don to purchase this car. But he did anyway, the
show portrayed the Delorean as being a junker. And throughout the show it was nothing but
trouble. This show sickened me, and made me want to kill whoever directed it. Was it my
imagination or did anybody else see it, please let me know!
Thanks
Scott Tester
testersd(AT)appstate.mci.net
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From: Marvin Sterling, marv930(AT)ix.netcom.com
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:23:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Wont start
You wrote:
>
> Its been about 4 weeks now and I have not started the car. We had to
>take out the A/C mode switch and send it off to be repaired expecting it
>to be fixed in a matter of days. But, the days turned into weeks and when my
>father and I decided to start the car after a few weeks of dormancy nothing
>happened. At first we heard a repetitive clicking noise coming form the
>relay compartment but that sound has since gone. I have checked that the
starter
>soleniod modification has been preformed on the car as the service
>bulletin states that a problem with there not being enough voltage to the
starter
>is accompanied by a clicking noise from the relays. Could this problem have
>anything to do with the fact that the center console is removed or the fact
>that the mode switch is not attached?
>
> -Scott Ciszek
________________question
I know this is a stupid question, but did you check the battery ?
Marv
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From: Raymond Haug, Raymond_Haug(AT)lamg.com
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:24:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Re: Door Struts & Torsion Bar
Chase:
I would suggest that you DO NOT ATTEMPT TO ADJUST the torsion bars on the
doors. Simply replace the Door Struts, and 99% of the time your doors
will
operate perfectly for a few more years.
When the Door Struts first started loosing their gas in the mid-80s, the
DeLorean Service Shops all started adjusting the torsions bars, and D1
even
had loaner tools to assist. But after some mishaps like tearing the
sockets
right out of the fiberglass, broken rear glass, plus a few injuries to the
ones doing the adjusting, every-one stopped it and discovered it is a
whole
lot less expensive to simply buy new Door Struts, and it takes about 5
minutes to replace each one.
FORGET THE ADJUSTMENTS!!!
Ray Haug
Chapter 12 Coordinator
DeLorean Owners Association
raymond_haug(AT)lamg.com
dmcnews(AT)world.std.com,Internet writes:
>BTW, is it possible to adjust the torsion bar without obtaining a special
>tool to do so? My passenger side door is quite overly aggressive and will
>rock the car if allowed to open freely. I'd like to adjust it, but someone
>told me a special tool is needed and I have never seen it listed in any
>DeLorean catalogs. Any help on the tools needed and procedure to do so
>will be most appreciated.
>
>~ Chase
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From: Marvin Sterling, marv930(AT)ix.netcom.com
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:24:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: AMEX Gold Delorean
You wrote:
>
>That gold car in Texas has an enormous price tag on it now. Spoke with a
>broker recently and he said the family that own it wanted around $250K. I
told
>him the price of gold had not changed and the car prices had gone down making
>this car worth less than it's original $75K. Curious to see how they make
out.
>
>Regards, The Silver Fox (who was just curious about Gold)
>
>Chase wrote:
>
>>>It's advertised in Stephen's ad for $125,000 in the current DW
>
>>Hey, if I had that much money lying around, I'd probably just go for the
>>American Express Gold DeLorean sitting in the lobby of a bank in Snyder, TX.
>
>>And I thought refusing to sell my DeLorean for less than $35,000 was
>>hilarious. I know, this one of Wynne's is a factory original prototype and
>>therefore worth more, but $125,000!?!
>>
>> Chase
>
Additional comments:
Guys, as the owners of a relatively rare, small production car I think
that you all may be selling the value of what you own short. The value
of our DeLoreans will go down only if we allow it to go down. Our
"bird" falls into the category of being priced by what someone who
wants one is willing to pay for it and I'm not talking about an 18 year
old looking for a $7,000 car as was written recently. You may not
believe it but our D really is a collectible and as more of them fall
by the wayside the more valuable it becomes, it would't be in auto
museum collections if it were not historically significant ... I saw
my museum one at the collection in Las Vegas ... it was in very good
company. I think that $35,000 for an '83 in good condition is not
unreasonable. Now! I've said my piece and you can all take your best
shot at me.
Regards to all,
Marv
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From: Chase Clark, stormrider(AT)socketis.net
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:21:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: DeLorean values
>company. I think that $35,000 for an '83 in good condition is not
>unreasonable.
Marv:
I've already refused to sell my '81 for anything less than $36,000, which
is four times what I paid for it and three times what I have invested in it
to date. And this is a customized and painted DeLorean I am talking about.
A serious offer in the range of $40,000 to $50,000 might convince me to
sell it.
But $125,000 for a one-off twin-turbo prototype or $200,000 for a gold
electroplated DeLorean? Even I find that excessive, but then if I owned
either I would drive them on a regular basis, so my judgement may be
skewered by my reasoning that cars are made to drive around, not sit
inside some place and look pretty.
~ Chase
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From: Chase Clark, stormrider(AT)socketis.net
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:21:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: A little whine with my DeLorean?
>A *very* high pitched whine, louder when the motor is off and key removed,
>sounds like it coming from under the drivers side of the dash. Seems to
>increase in volume with the door open, and decreases/changes pitch when I
>depress the door switches.
James:
Doesn't sound like a vacuum leak to me. Vacuum leaks make a hissing noise
and are easy to identify. Sounds like an electrical component is going
bad.
One possibility to check would be the door buzzer unit and the flasher
relay as both are beneath the dash. Otherwise, you might hook a meter up to
the battery and pull each fuse in succession to see from which area power
is being drawn.
It probably sounds worse than it is, but I bet it's draining your battery
and that can be bad if it sits too long.
~ Chase
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From: Chase Clark, stormrider(AT)socketis.net
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:30:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Episode of Matlock with Delorean car!
>the dealer introduced Don to the Delorean. As always Andy did not think it
>was a good idea for Don to purchase this car. But he did anyway, the
>show portrayed the
>Delorean as being a junker. And throughout the show it was nothing but
>trouble.
Scott:
I love my DeLorean, but it IS a source of constant trouble. British cars
have never been known as vehicles to be owned by people without mechanical
ability and a lot of patience. I no more fix one problem than three others
appear. I try to convince myself that someday every system will be working
to perfection, but I know enough about British cars (having owned two
others) to understand that this is just foolishness on my part. I just
won't tell my friends, family or girlfriend the truth that it was not a
great choice as my only car.
Still, I wouldn't sell unless someone offered me a huge amount of money for
it. And then I'd probably turn right around and buy another DeLorean, as
well as a Jeep or some other convertible.
~ Chase
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From: ausmith(AT)pdx.oneworld.com
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:29:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Episode of Matlock with Delorean car!
I saw that Matlock too. A real piece of TV bul#*&*t.
The high pitched sound coming from under the dash sounds like a door
ajar warning run amok. Mine has been disconnected. Being a Lucas unit
it wouldn't be surprising.
Chris
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From: Mike Substelny, SUBSTEM(AT)cesmtp.ccf.org
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:30:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: won't start, blower, Matlock
>. . . when my father and I decided to start the car after a few
>weeks of dormancy nothing happened. At first we heard a
>repetitive clicking noise coming form the relay
>compartment but that sound has since gone.
The Chase/Gary Hewitt tip is very valuable, but I have
another take on the story. The symptoms sound exactly like
the problem I described two weeks ago with the START
INHIBIT RELAY. I still have not discerned the function of this
item in 5-speed DeLoreans (in automatics it keeps you from
starting in gear).
If your battery is a little drained and thus is putting out less
than 12 volts (happens after the doors have been left open
with marker lights on) this relay will refuse to engage. You'll
hear the starter relay click, but the start inhibit relay just sits
there. In my car I lessened this problem by putting in a huge
battery. But two weeks ago Rob Hook and I couldn't start
my car even with a full charge on the big battery. Then Rob
jiggled the start inhibit relay while I turned the key the car
started right up. Give your battery a good charge and jiggle
the start inhibit relay (I described its location two weeks
ago).
Burton asked:
>Did you do anything to achieve this the greater airflow?
>(Anyone else out there with some info PLEASE feel free to
>jump in) Or is this simply what came with the car?
Oh boy, this is a tough one. You see, the previous owner of
my car was unsatisfied with the air output from the blower,
so he sought a replacement. He had a friend with a big auto
parts store, and one night they pulled out the DeLorean
blower and started going through his entire inventory for a
replacement. By dawn they were surrounded by open boxes
and blowers, but they finally found one that would fit.
This unidentified blower is the one that I said "blows like a
hurricane." I have never seen any markings on it, but I have
never looked very hard either. Right now my car is in the
shop getting a new clutch / clutch hydro line, so it will be
some time next week before I can get a good look at that
blower.
I had forgotten about the blower until you asked. Come to
think of it, sometimes a person sitting in my passenger seat
will accidentally kick the lead wire off of my blower motor
because it sticks down so far into the foot well. I thought the
previous owner did a bad installation of that wire, but maybe
that motor really is bigger than the stock unit. I have no idea
if it is a stock fan or not. I'll compare it to the next DeLorean
I see.
I've never seen the DeLorean episode of Matlock, but
consider this:
What would have happened if they portrayed the DeLorean
as a really dependable, simple car that never needed any
work? All of us on the DML would be laughing about it right
now!
- -Mike Substelny
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From: mal(AT)hocpa.ho.att.com
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:00:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 5-Speed Slider Gear/Delorean One
I am in search of a parts for my 5 speed Trans.
#103108 and #103105. If anyone can help me find these parts PLEASE
contact me.
In my search, I called Delorean One. This is my third time dealing with
Delorean One. I purchased my service manual from them, and then a oil
drain plug.
A woman picked up the phone, I asked her for the two above part numbers.
With any pause in the conversation she said "I don't think we have
those"......Long Pause........ I ask "Well, is there ay way to check?"
She then asked me for my VIN!!! Why the heck does she need the VIN to check
stock on a part? I the hear some papers move around, and she came back
and asked for the VIN again.... On hold for about 30 seconds.... She came
back and said they did not have it.
I am not really complaining, but the whole situation seemed very strange.
I am wondering if these rare parts are being "Saved" for a regular D1
customer, and that is why my VIN was requested twice.
Anyway, if there are any available, or a cross reference available (I am
told the parts were also used in a Renault Alpine) please contact me.
Thanks,
Marc
malevy(AT)lucent.com
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