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Wednesday, 10 July 1996 Volume 02 : Number 139
In this issue:
Re: Headliners,Correction
Re: Fuel Pump
Re: DeLorean in a commercial
Top fabric replacement and strengthing support
Fwd: Delorean World Magazine?
Power Miror problems
Re: Redoing Headliners
DeLorean personality
RE: Your Gullwings Are Open
Bringing a DeLorean to Nashville?
Fast turn signal
Starter fix
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From: ausmith(AT)pdx.oneworld.com
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 13:37:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Headliners,Correction
> Front Headliner, Removal
>
> 1. Remove both left and right **SUNVISORS**
You would think I could at least get the first line right!! :-[
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From: Chase Clark, stormrider(AT)socketis.net
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 13:37:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Fuel Pump
>My Delorean stops running properly when the tank is only about 1/4 down
>from full. If I drive beyond that, the car hesitates as if lacking fuel...
David:
Most likely sounds like a problem is being caused by deterioration of the
fuel pickup line or a loose fuel baffle assembly. The previous owner of my
car sent several pages of information about removal/replacement of the
fuel pump and baffle. Send me your snail-mail address, and I'll make copies of
the stuff and send it to you. It's not that hard, you just want to be
careful when doing it.
~ Chase
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From: gamma(AT)euronet.nl
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:51:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: DeLorean in a commercial
> They estimated that only 5 D's are to be found in Holland. I saw my first
>D in April this year. Considering that there are about 5,5 million cars
>in Holland and only 5 D's, the chances of seeing one is less than 1 in a
>million so I've been quite lucky.
>
> Martin
>
>
There seem to be 8 d's in holland
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From: D.L.Stalling, dstall(AT)trib.net
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 22:51:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Top fabric replacement and strengthing support
Thanks to all for sharing your knowledge.
I recently replaced the liner on both the doors and the center
liner. After removing the old foam/fabric I found the fiber board to be
badly warped. I straightened the fiber board but it didn't stay; I found
an aluminum trim piece about 1" wide x 6 foot long at the local hardware
supply that had an offset about 1/16" with tapered edge. After drilling
five 1/8" holes and using 1/4"pop-ribbets with a reinforcement washer on
the side opposite the metal, the support liner was easily fitted to the
rear of the car. This is a really low cost fix and it should last!
I'm still looking for a coil cover for my 81 DMC-12, any extras
out there?
dstall(AT)mail.trib.net
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From: Raymond Haug, Raymond_Haug(AT)lamg.com
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 01:38:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Fwd: Delorean World Magazine?
Contact John Truscott, Membership Director of the DeLorean Owners
Association
at (805)964-5296, or delorean(AT)silcom.com.
Check Out the Association Homepage at "www.delorean-owners.org" for more
information and membership application. PS. you do not need to own a
DeLorean to be a member
Ray Haug, Chapter 12 Coordinator
DeLorean Owners Association
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>Does anybody know how I can get a subscription to Delorean World Magazine?
>
>Thanks
>
>Scott Tester testersd(AT)appstate.mci.net
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From: Damien Falato, dgf108(AT)psu.edu
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:31:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Power Miror problems
Well, I know have another electrical nightmare to hunt down. I went to
adjust my passenger side miror in trafic yesterday and discovered that
neither one of them was working. I'm hopeing it's as simple as a blown
fuse. The mirorors don't seem to be binding and since they both seem to
have gone out I doubt it's the miror assemblies. I hope it's not the
switch or, worse, elsewhere. Any sugestions?
Wolfie wrote:
>hmmmmm, at the sound of risking any flakier then I already am...What
>type of person do your cars remind you of?
I admit that I was fooling around with a friend of mine one day and we came
up with an idea for a show that USA would probably run. The Knight Rider TV
series showing an early project originally using a DMC as the proto type.
We figured on a verry eliteist and iritating female persona. Verry snobish
and obstanant as well. She would cause herself to breakdown when others
were looking is she wasn't being treated just right and countinually
insult her driver.
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From: Raymond Haug, Raymond_Haug(AT)lamg.com
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:32:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Redoing Headliners
Chase,
I just completed redoing the complete set of headliners on my '81 and '83
DeLoreans and found it to be much easier than I had expected. I would suggest
replacing the entire set so that you will have a complete match that looks
great when completed, and should last another 8 to 10 years. By doing a
complete set, you can begin on the two center sections first since they are
relatively flat and then do the doors last after you learn the technique for
installing the liner.
The original headliner fabric is backed with an "open-cell" foam backing,
that simply disintegrates in the heat and turns to dust, leaving the fabric
dangling. The original fabric was glued to the pressed fiberboard backing
with a contact cement that is sprayed to both the foam and the backing,
allowed to dry completely and then pressed together.
When removing the old headliner, use latex gloves and an old sponge to rub
the old disintegrated foam from the backing after pulling off the fabric. Be
careful to keep the smooth surface of the backing. I had to repair a section
of one of mine using a light layer of fiberglas matting and expoxy coating.
to fill the gaps. Use caution in removing the backing from the door and top
of the car. Use a head liner removal tool or two putty knives on each side
of the plastic retainers that hold the headliner in position. You also need
to remove the visors, and light housings.
Go to a local automobile upholstery supply house and you will find many
shades of grey headliners for your selection. One large supply house that I
used is "Keyston Bros" that has warehouses across the US. In the mid-west
they have a warehouse in Dallas, TX (214)742-1875. They had the regular
"open-cell" foam backed headliner for around $7 per yard (54" wide), and a
higher quality woven fabric backing that was much more durable and not likely
to disintegrate that was $12 per yard. This material did not have the color
selection but I found one color #HL 2117 that was a light grey with a touch
of metallic thread that really looks sharp. Use the best 3 M Headliner
Adhesive, that runs $12 per can.
You only need 1.5 yard of the 54" wide material, and you get 2 "T" pieces for
the middle sections and 2 pieces for the doors that are cut between the T
sections. After removing the old headliners, lay them out flat on the back
of the new headliners and chalk out the outline and leave about 1" around the
outside of all edges. You will see that extra is needed for wrapping up
over the edges of the door frames when they are installed in the vehicle.
Several folks suggested that I take the fabric and backing to an auto
upholstery shop for spraying of the contact cement by a spray gun. It is
most important to get a complete coverage on both the back of the fabric and
the backing material. Let it dry completely and then begin by placing the
fabric in the center of each section and working it carefully to each of the
edges, stretching and pulling all wrinkles out as you move to the outside
edge. leave excess to overhang that will either fold over, or be glued to the
door edges for the two center sections. If you don't like the way it comes
out, just lift the fabric up and stretch it into position. Once you like the
look, then press it hard into position. This step is best done by two
people, one holds the fabric above the backing, and the other works the
fabric from the center to the outside edges.
Trim, and notch the fabric as it is folded over the back of the door
sections, and trim the center sections after they are cemented to the
edges
of the door opening.
Use a can of adhesive solvent to clean off any excess cement off the
fabric
and any overspray, such as your hands. Clean up after it has dried.
Good luck.
Ray Haug
Chase writes:
>OK guys, I've realized that tehre are several items for the Common Faults
>FAQ that I know absolutely nothing about. At the top of the list is the
>cure for sagging headliners.
>
>And, lo and behold, my center headliners are sagging and need to be
>reglued. Surprisingly my door headliners are fine, but I think they might
>have been replaced with a close (but not perfect) cloth during the past
>several years. Which would explain that.
>
>Anyway, I need information on both for the FAQ and I will very much
>appreciate information on how to remove the center headliners so I can try
>to get them reglued before the DOA convention next month.
>
>Thanks!!
>
>~ Chase
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From: Mike Substelny, SUBSTEM(AT)cesmtp.ccf.org
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:14:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: DeLorean personality
>What type of person do your cars remind you of?
Mine is definitely Dr. Richard Kimball from "The Fugitive."
First because he was misunderstood. Everyone in the world
thought he was the bad guy, even though WE knew he was
really the hero. Second, every minute he was just a whisker
away from another total disaster, but somehow he got
through every scrape with style and finesse.
Sounds just like driving a DeLorean, doesn't it?
- -Mike Substelny
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From: aerostar(AT)ccia.com
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 23:08:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: RE: Your Gullwings Are Open
Wolfie, awolf(AT)pacific.telebyte.net wrote:
Subject: Your gullwing doors are open........
> I recall, while flipping through an old "DeGullWing" leaflet, something
>about a warning assembly that talked to you. This informed you of
>critical fuel, oil pressure, temperature, levels, we well as door open,
>key in ignition, etc.
>[SNIP]
> At any rate, as I said, if anyone has information on this product
>or a similar one, I'd really appreciate it.
JC Whitney had something like this a few years back, along with another
speciality automotive catalog I saw once. However, I think the novelty of
this item must have worn off, since this option seems to have disappeared
from most cars being made today (It really DOES get annoying after a
short while).
Eric aerostar(AT)ccia.com
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From: Chase Clark, stormrider(AT)socketis.net
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 21:49:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Bringing a DeLorean to Nashville?
I am interested in knowing in advance which people are going to the DOA
convention in Nashville next month and bringing their DeLorean with them?
It looks like I will be covering the event for a couple of publications,
and was thinking about trying to sell features on the event to other
newspapers around the country by using the convention as a sidebar and a
story about a "local" owner as the feature for each market.
If you are interested in having your car featured in your local or regional
newspaper, then let me know and I'll get in touch with the feature editor
and try to sell the idea to him or her. It looks like I'll spend part of my
time working while in Nashville, so I might as well maximum the return and
exposure for both DOA, myself and other owners.
Now if only JZD himself was there and I could get a few quotes from him as
well...
Thanks!
~ Chase
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Stormrider Media Productions P.O. Box 105301
Chase Clark, Co-Owner Jefferson City, Missouri
65110-5301
Voice/Fax (573)635-0622 Email: stormrider(AT)socketis.net
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From: James Espey, mikasa(AT)goodnet.com
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 22:39:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Fast turn signal
A few weeks ago I posted a message about my "blankety-blank" blinker. All
the bulbs were good, flasher unit was good, and I performed the "nut &
bolt" tail light modification, still the left turn signal blinked twice
as fast as the left. I took aprt the front turn signal housing and
socket. A little corroded, but not bad, but I cleaned it out anyway. No
luck. The more aI played with it I noticed that if I held the bulb "just
right", it would work fine. It was too loose in the socket, it appeared.
I had the factory original bulbs, so I know the bulb was right for the
application. Too make along story short, I very slightly squeezed the
socket at the open end with a pair of pliers, making it VERY SLIGHTLY
oval shaped. The bulb fits snugly, but is easily removable and it works
GREAT again. Probably not the "right" way to fix it, but it works.
James
BTW, this also cured the "whine" from the seatbelt buzzer. Lucas
electrical...geez.
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From: SCiszek(AT)aol.com
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 22:39:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Starter fix
After a month of dormancy our DeLorean roared to life once again
yesterday evening. I had mentioned earlier that the car would not start for
reasons unknown. Thanks to those who gave me advice but the problem was one
not so common. Apparently since we had left the car sitting for a few weeks
without driving it, the humid weather we had here in Virginia finally took
its toll causing the armature shaft in the starter to become rusted and
preventing the pinion from engaging the flywheel. We had to dismantle the
starter ( not a process I'd like to soon repeat ) and sandpaper the shaft.
After that the car started prefectly everytime. Just more proof that leting
the car sit for any extended length of time in a hot and humid climate is
not a good practice.
Chase, as to your lack of air, let me recommend a fix. I was having the
same problem as you, little or no air from the center or door vents ( due to
a vucuum accuator problem ), lots of air from the floor vents and I also had
a good size vacuum leak in the mode switch. I purchased a new one from
DeLorean One and with it installed, the vents now work perfectly. I would
recommend buying a new mode switch to those who have similar A/C problems.
Does anyone know where I could buy some silver wheels. The gray ones
on the car just don't thrill me like they should.
-Scott Ciszek
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