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Wednesday, July 2 1997 Volume 02 : Number 256
In this issue:
DML: Changing Wheel Color
DML: Talk about SAD stories!
DML: Fuel not pumping
DML: Photo of pre-production DMC12
Re: DML: Fuel not pumping
DML: Hot Start Relay?
DML: Sunshade Latch Adjustment?
DML: Re: Talk about SAD stories
DML: RE: Re: Talk about SAD stories
DML: Low-buck appearance improvement tips
Re: DML: Low-buck appearance improvement tips
Re: DML: Fuel not pumping
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Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 16:44:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: SCiszek@aol.com
Subject: DML: Changing Wheel Color
In the most recent issue of DeLorean World in an Article called "Tips For
the
Home Mechanic" the author mentioned that a friend of his, who had an
early 81
car with the grey wheels, noticed that the finish on them was peeling and
proceeded to strip off the grey finish using paint thinner. Underneath the
grey "paint" was the aluminum finish found on the wheels of later cars
which
the owner then polished. The author commented that his friend's wheels
looked every bit as good as his (which were silver) and completely
original.
Does this mean that the silver wheels are the same as the grey ones except
for the fact that the grey wheels were painted? As a owner of a car with
the
early grey wheels this process is of much interest to me as I prefer the
silver color over the grey. As I have never heard of this procedure
before I
was wondering if anyone else has had experience with it and would be able
to
outline the process in greater detail. Thanks for your help.
- -Scott Ciszek
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Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 16:08:38 -0400
From: Rob Hook (rob_hook@pop.net)
Subject: DML: Talk about SAD stories!
Hello all. I just found this tidbit on the usenet:
> >I just picked by a copy of the new coffee table book ACESTORY! It's the
> >history of Ace Frehley told through words (for those of you who
understand
> >words with more than four letter's) and pictures(for those who don't),
> >it's BRILLIANT! Even though it's poorly bound, it's still a must have
for
> >any "REAL" Ace fan. I spent a little extra, and bought the edition that
> >comes with an autographed DeLorean hubcap.
> >
> I was trying to get a copy with a hubcap but got a piece of the dash
> instead. Maybe if I buy enough copies of 12 Parts, I can complete the
> collection and piece together the entire car.
Could this be so? Is some publishing company buying DeLorean parts (or
entire DeLoreans) and cutting them up to include with this book? I've
called five different bookstores and none of them listed this book. Any
thoughts? I'll post whatever I find.
- --Rob Hook
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Date: Fri, 27 Jun 97 17:39:07 PDT
From: dh@hpserv7.mxim.com
Subject: DML: Fuel not pumping
My Delorean always had starting problems when the engine
was warm. But recently it wouldn't start at all. The
pump was making a horrible roaring noise. When I removed
the clamp around the fuel pump and lifted it out of the
tank a little bit, the car started immediately. I drove
it home. Now if I reseat the pump, the car won't start and
the terrible noise returns. If I lift it out a bit, the
car consistantly starts instantly. The only theory I can
come up with is some kind of venting problem. Any idea
of what's wrong with my Delorean? Can somebody explain to
me how the fuel system works including the accumulator and
the check valve I hear so much about?
David.
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Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 18:07:13 -0700
From: e/evan/altendorf (altender@ENGR.ORST.EDU)
Subject: DML: Photo of pre-production DMC12
I remembered where I had seen that photo of a pre-production D
(brought up when discussing that sadly neglected "mystery" DeLorean).
It was none other than the DMC News website! :)
You can find it under the historic documents section of the DeLorean
FAQ, or you can load it directly with the URL:
http://www.dmcnews.com/faq/img/docs/doc_12a.gif
- -e.
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 97 16:40:06 PDT
From: "Brandon S. Moody" (bsmoody@kih.net)
Subject: Re: DML: Fuel not pumping
> My Delorean always had starting problems when the engine
> was warm. But recently it wouldn't start at all. The
> pump was making a horrible roaring noise. When I removed
> the clamp around the fuel pump and lifted it out of the
> tank a little bit, the car started immediately. I drove
> it home. Now if I reseat the pump, the car won't start and
> the terrible noise returns. If I lift it out a bit, the
> car consistantly starts instantly. The only theory I can
> come up with is some kind of venting problem. Any idea
> of what's wrong with my Delorean? Can somebody explain to
> me how the fuel system works including the accumulator and
> the check valve I hear so much about?
Probably due to the inlet hose being kinked when the pumped
is lowered into the tank. Over time the hose becomes soft and
the inside starts to decay. Just replace the inlet hose, and that will
probably solve the problem.
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 97 22:53:07 -0600
From: David Swingle (dswingle@enteract.com)
Subject: DML: Hot Start Relay?
There is a relay mounted on the firewall in the engine compartment, just
to the left and below of the Engine Cover Light Switch That Never Works.
It seems to be wired in and around the ignition and ballast resistors,
but it is not covered in any of the documentation that I have seen. The
relay is identical to the seven SPDT relays used in the relay compartment
for the fans, lights, etc.
I have a suspicion that it is the Hot Start relay, (ref DML 2/28/97, by
WINGD2@aol.com - Marty) which the tech manual mentions as optional for
hot climates but gives no other information. My car was originally sold
in Southern California - is that hot enough? Anybody know what it is
and/or does? I'm not having a problem, just curious.
Marty did you ever get an answer to your posting in February? If not, I
can reverse engineer the wiring diagram for you if you're still
interested.
Dave Swingle
dswingle@enteract.com
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 97 22:53:11 -0600
From: David Swingle (dswingle@enteract.com)
Subject: DML: Sunshade Latch Adjustment?
Has anyone ever figured out how to make the sunshade latch more
functional? I have seen a couple that work, but most, including mine,
seem to lack the ability to hold the sunshade down against more than a
few ounces of upward pressure. Not that it goes flying up or anything,
but if it could latch more solidly that would be one less thing to rattle.
Dave Swingle
dswingle@enteract.com
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 08:21:48 -0400
From: Mike Substelny (SUBSTEM@cesmtp.ccf.org)
Subject: DML: Re: Talk about SAD stories
Rob, as far as I know there has never been any such thing as
"a DeLorean hubcap." All DeLoreans were made with alloy
wheels.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:35:03 -0400
From: Rob Hook (rob_hook@pop.net)
Subject: DML: RE: Re: Talk about SAD stories
>Rob, as far as I know there has never been any such thing as
>"a DeLorean hubcap." All DeLoreans were made with alloy
>wheels.
>- Mike Substelny
Yeah, I noticed that too. They might be talking about the center cap
from
the wheels though. I responded back to the guy asking about this but I
don't see any responses yet. I still haven't found any more info on
this.
- --Rob Hook
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 97 09:04:12 -0000
From: James Espey (espey@dmcnews.com)
Subject: DML: Low-buck appearance improvement tips
I was talking with one of the DeLorean parts/service facility about
low-buck appearance improvement items and this is a short list of things
that we came up with...
Wheel caps - most of the original caps the silver DMC logo has faded out.
Side marker light gaskets - missing or "chewed up" gaskets look bad can
let moisture in and rust a bulb socket. The lenses themselves are
relatively cheap to replace if cracked or broken, too.
Discolored dashboard - don't replace it, most upholstery places can dye
it for about $50 or less.
Stainless steel screws - Mangled or rusty screws on the light fixtures
around the car make it look old. This little "detail" item makes a big
difference.
Seat belt bolt caps - outside the car, down low under the door sill is
where the seatbelt bolt is. It should have a black plastic cover over it
- - very inexpensive appearance improvement item.
I would classify the following as "medium-buck" appearance improvement
items...
Carpets - Most all of the carpet pieces are still available OEM from the
various suppliers.
Rub strips - You know, the black side trim around the beltline of the
car. There's eight pieces of the various sizes on each side of the car.
All still available from the DeLorean suppliers.
Seat covers/shift boot - nothing like the look and smell of new leather
to improve an interior.
Wheels - any of the DeLorean places can refinish your wheels (strip,
repair that ugly curb gouge, repaint). Some of them even have "exchange"
wheels in stock. New orignial wheels are still available, too.
Fascias - easily repainted by any competent body shop to the original
colors
Anyone else have some ideas of their own?
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com/
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 17:37:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: MICHAEL BABB (mikebabb@vnet.net)
Subject: Re: DML: Low-buck appearance improvement tips
Good list...I will print it out as a "wish list" for myself.
Also, you can still get floor mats from DMC in houston. I picked up a set
when I bought my car there and they are of very high quality. They have
them available in both black and grey. (I took out the grey and put back
in Black to match orig. specs)
cheers!
Michael Babb, MCSE
Microsoft Technical Education
Computer Decisions Inc.
Phone 919.460.7604
Alpha Pager (Raleigh) 919.389.2695
mikebabb@vnet.net
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Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 17:02:13 +0000
From: James Nichols (jhnichols@earthlink.net)
Subject: Re: DML: Fuel not pumping
David Wrote:
"My Delorean always had starting problems when the engine
was warm. But recently it wouldn't start at all. The
pump was making a horrible roaring noise."
If you look at the parts manual you'll see that the fuel pickup line is
a molded rubber line with several bends and has a fuel pickup strainer
at the back of the tank. In my view it is too long, too large, and too
soft. If your fuel pickup filter is only slightly plugged it will cause
the pickup line to collapse and the pump to cavitate, making that
terrible noise. If the pump is not oriented correctly, rotated left or
right or too far up or down it will cause a kink on the pickup line.
The pickup filter is nylon mesh and can be easily cleaned with soap and
water and a tooth brush.
My solution to the collapsing problem was to buy a screen door spring,
streach it so it had about one sixteenth of an inch between coils, slip
it into the pickup line, cut it to length and put it back together. I
haven't had a fuel problem since.
Jim #6884
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