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Monday, July 7 1997 Volume 02 : Number 257
In this issue:
DML: Removing Ignition Switch/Blinkers blinking erratically
Re: DML: DeLorean Dealer Sign
DML: DeLorean Midwest Connection Events
DML: Compatible transmissions
DML: Replacing the Rear View Mirror
DML: RE: Blinkers blinking erratically
DML: Windshield Wipers 18" or 20"?
DML: For Sale: Bullwing !!
Re: DML: Windshield Wipers 18" or 20"?
DML: New DeLorean car on network news?
DML: Back issues search function
Re: DML: Hot Start Relay?
Re: DML: Removing Ignition Switch/Blinkers blinking erratically
DML: re: Wheel Colour
DML: Temperature Gauge Inop.
DML: RE: New DeLorean Car on Network News
Re: DML: New DeLorean car on network news?
DML: Re: Newsletter sharing
DML: re: Hot Start Relay.
DML: Re: Southeastern DeLorean Owners Club
DML: Misc Delorean Parts Available
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:01:46 -0700
From: Dan Berglund (gonzo@nwlink.com)
Subject: DML: Removing Ignition Switch/Blinkers blinking erratically
Anyone know how to remove the ignition switch? I looked in the manual
and
it shows a screw at the bottom and 2 shear bolts at the top... There
isn't
a screw on the bottom of my ignition switch... and the 2 shear bolts are
'sheared' (imagine that..)...
Also I noticed a while ago that my front left blinker was not working,
my
left blinker started blinking about twice as fast as normal - and I just
assumed this was because one of the filaments was burnt out... well, it
isn't, I switched bulbs just to see if it was the bulb and the same bulb
works in the right blinker just fine... now my right blinker blinks
really
fast like my left one, and my left front blinker still doesn't work -
both
rear ones work however... Any ideas on this?
Thanks,
Dan Berglund
Nov '81 # 6623
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 97 09:05:02 -0000
From: James Espey (espey@dmcnews.com)
Subject: Re: DML: DeLorean Dealer Sign
Several weeks ago I posted a message about a two-sided dealer sign that I
had bought. I have posted some photos of the sign for those of you who
wanted to see what it looks like.
http://www.dmcnews.com/sign.html
I was able to easily remove one "side" of the the sign from the light box
and soon it will be hanging in my living room. The other side, with the
light box, was purchased by another list member and was shipped to him
today.
For the record, the complete sign weighs over 300 pounds, and measures
nearly 11.5 feet in length and with the pedestal shown in the photos,
nearly 4 feet tall. With only 343 DMC dealers, one has to wonder how many
of these are left around...
James
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:59:00 -0500
From: Don Gowler-CFPO01 (Don_Gowler-CFPO01@email.mot.com)
Subject: DML: DeLorean Midwest Connection Events
James, this looks like one you did not get while your system was giving
you
problems. Perhaps you could post it for us. Thanks. Don
_________________________________________________________________
____
Just a quick update on the events the DeLoream Midwest Connection will be
involved in for the balance of this year.
Date Activity Location Club
Event
June 13-14 Iowa Delorean Expo '97 Des Moines, IA
June 22 Lambs Farm Auto Show Libertyville, IL Yes
No judging, $8 fee, free admission & parking for
spectators
June 29 Wauconda Fest Wauconda, IL
July 12 Cruisin' 66 Car Show Burr Ridge, IL
July 26 Algonquin Parade Algonquin, IL
July 27 Frankfort Car Show Frankfort, IL Yes
People's Choice Awards, $10 fee
August 3 Illinois Railway Museum
Transport Extravaganza Union, IL
August 15-17 Iowa Club Joint Meeting TBA Yes
August 17 Orphan Auto Picnic Aurora, IL
September 7 British Car Show
and DMC Concourse Des Plaines, IL Yes
Your chance to show your car and participate in
concourse
judging
September 20 Fall Technical Session TBA Yes
with Don Steger
October 12 BTTF Ribfest & Poker Rally Hinsdale, IL Yes
Bob's "Soon-to-be-Famous Ribs", Pot luck BBQ and debut
of the
Delorean Time Machine with flux capacitor, time
circuits, and
"Mr. Fusion" - also modified windows and aluminum V-8
engine
December 6 Xmas Holiday Dinner TBA Yes
For all interested parties in the area who are not already members of the
Club
please contact me for more details on becoming a member.
Don Gowler - President
DeLorean Midwest Connection
4831 Deepwood Lane
Palatine, Illinois 60067
cfpo01@email.mot.com
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Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 21:09:58 -0500
From: Duke (duke@entremob.com)
Subject: DML: Compatible transmissions
I was wondering if anybody knows any different types of rear engine =
transmissions. I recently purchased a Chevy 350 Tune Port Injection =
motor and am going to install it in the DeLorean but I would really like =
to replace the stock trans with a better one. I have an automatic and =
am hoping to replace it with a standard, however, I'm not sure about =
this yet.
Thanks in advance,
Duke Bladorn
www.geocities.com/motorcity/8952/delorean .html
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 16:00:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: GullWinged@aol.com
Subject: DML: Replacing the Rear View Mirror
I will be having a NOS windshield installed in my '81 DeLorean later this
month and am wondering if I should also replace the rear-view mirror
(even though nothing is wrong with it now)? Or is it possible to remove
it and the pad and reattach it to a new windshield?
TIA! - Chase
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:55:53 -0500
From: Kevin Wolter (kwolter@micropace.com)
Subject: DML: RE: Blinkers blinking erratically
I had the same problem because of my front blinkers. It turned out to =
be the adjustment of the bulb itself. After removing the blinker =
housing, active the turn signal (not the hazards) and then turn the bulb =
slightly until the blinking is slower.
It has been a couple of months since I have done this and I have not had =
a problem yet.
- - Kevin #6810
{snip}
> Also I noticed a while ago that my front left blinker was not working,=20
>my=20
>left blinker started blinking about twice as fast as normal - and I just =
>
>assumed this was because one of the filaments was burnt out... well, it=20
>isn't, I switched bulbs just to see if it was the bulb and the same bulb =
>
>works in the right blinker just fine... now my right blinker blinks=20
>really=20
>fast like my left one, and my left front blinker still doesn't work -=20
>both=20
>rear ones work however... Any ideas on this?
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 16:01:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: GullWinged@aol.com
Subject: DML: Windshield Wipers 18" or 20"?
I replaced my windshield wipers on my early '81 DeLorean a couple of
months ago and discovered that they are 18" wipers instead of 20" wipers
as my cross-reference list indicates. Just curious if anyone else has 18"
wiper blades or if a previous owner bought the wrong blades years ago?
TIA! - Chase
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:23:51 -0700
From: "Murray Fisher" (murrayf@bmi.net)
Subject: DML: For Sale: Bullwing !!
At the risk of being called a "smart alec", on the last page of the
latest
Old Cars Weekly is advertised a "1981 Bullwing DeLorean coupe".
Your chance to get a "one of a kind".
Also advertised is a more conventional "1983 Gullwing DeLorean coupe"
No prices.
Murray Fisher
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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 13:43:45 -0800
From: Vincent Voss (vvoss@Alaska.NET)
Subject: Re: DML: Windshield Wipers 18" or 20"?
GullWinged@aol.com wrote:
>
> I replaced my windshield wipers on my early '81 DeLorean a couple of
> months ago and discovered that they are 18" wipers instead of 20" wipers
> as my cross-reference list indicates. Just curious if anyone else has 18"
> wiper blades or if a previous owner bought the wrong blades years ago?
>
> TIA! - Chase
I've got 20" wipers. This is what was specified in the wiper
manufactures
listing for the DeLorean.(This is the only item I have ever found listed
for the Delorean on off the shelf items)
Vincent Voss
Anchorage, Alaska
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Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 08:38:29 -0400
From: Mike Substelny (SUBSTEM@cesmtp.ccf.org)
Subject: DML: New DeLorean car on network news?
Last night, while having a beer at a local watering hole, one
of my friends mentioned that she heard John Z. DeLorean's
name on the national news Tuesday night. Unfortunately,
she couldn't remember what network it was, or very many
details about the feature.
The story was about some new car that is going to be built,
possibly from stainless steel. She was not sure that JZD
was actually building the car, since the story sounded like
another man was going to do that. Perhaps DeLorean was
merely mentioned because you can't talk about stainless
cars without dropping the his name.
I was really sorry I missed it. Did anyone else hear about
this story?
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 09:54:59 -0400
From: Mike Substelny (SUBSTEM@cesmtp.ccf.org)
Subject: DML: Back issues search function
A while ago, I said:
> ". . . the current DML Back Issue search function
> instantly kills my new browser, and I end up
> disconnected from the Web."
This behavior went on for two weeks. But yesterday the
search function began to work for me. Perhaps Aaron
tinkered with it? I don't know. I think Aaron plans to refine it
if enough of us express interest. To try it yourself go to
Aaron Barrus' webpage at :
www.inconnect.com/~dthornto
The search function is a great idea. In the 1.5 years I've
been in the DML there has been a ton of great information
exchanged here. Of course there has also been some
boloney. All of it is recorded in the back issues, and a good
search function is the most efficient way to sort through it all.
If you agree with me, please email Arron at:
AaronB@slc.twc.com
and encourage him to continue working on the search
function.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 11:05:56 -0500
From: Bill Marcussen (billmarcussen@sprintmail.com)
Subject: Re: DML: Hot Start Relay?
David Swingle wrote:
> There is a relay mounted on the firewall in the engine compartment,
> just
> to the left and below of the Engine Cover Light Switch That Never
> Works.
> It seems to be wired in and around the ignition and ballast resistors,
>
> but it is not covered in any of the documentation that I have seen.
> The
> relay is identical to the seven SPDT relays used in the relay
> compartment
> for the fans, lights, etc.
>
> I have a suspicion that it is the Hot Start relay, (ref DML 2/28/97,
> by
> WINGD2@aol.com - Marty) which the tech manual mentions as optional for
>
> hot climates but gives no other information. My car was originally
> sold
> in Southern California - is that hot enough? Anybody know what it is
> and/or does? I'm not having a problem, just curious.
>
> Marty did you ever get an answer to your posting in February? If not,
> I
> can reverse engineer the wiring diagram for you if you're still
> interested.
>
> Dave Swingle
> dswingle@enteract.com
This relay isn't mentioned by name in the manual, nor is it identified
on the wiring diagram. However, the coil is wired into the starter
circuit and the contacts are wired into the ballast resistor circuit.
Therefore, I believe it is used to bypass one half of the ballast
resistor during engine crank in order to provide increased coil voltage
for starting. This function is discussed on page M:01:03 of the
workship manual, bottom paragraph of the left-hand column.
Regards,
Bill Marcussen
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Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 10:07:33 -0500
From: Bill Marcussen (billmarcussen@sprintmail.com)
Subject: Re: DML: Removing Ignition Switch/Blinkers blinking erratically
Dan Berglund wrote:
> Anyone know how to remove the ignition switch? I looked in
> the manual
> and
> it shows a screw at the bottom and 2 shear bolts at the top... There
> isn't
> a screw on the bottom of my ignition switch... and the 2 shear bolts
> are
> 'sheared' (imagine that..)...
>
> Also I noticed a while ago that my front left blinker was not
> working,
> my
> left blinker started blinking about twice as fast as normal - and I
> just
> assumed this was because one of the filaments was burnt out... well,
> it
> isn't, I switched bulbs just to see if it was the bulb and the same
> bulb
> works in the right blinker just fine... now my right blinker blinks
> really
> fast like my left one, and my left front blinker still doesn't work -
> both
> rear ones work however... Any ideas on this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan Berglund
>
> Nov '81 # 6623
I had to remove my ignition switch last month in order to get duplicate
keys matched to the cylinder. For my car (VIN 10431, Dec '81), I found
the workshop manual procedure (page M:12:01) and drawing (figure 48) to
be exactly correct. If they aren't right for your car, I would guess
that either (1) earlier production had a different arrangement or (2)
someone previously removed your switch and performed a "modified"
reinstallation. Sorry I can't shed any more light than that.
I am having the same problem with the LF turn signal. It is caused by a
short somewhere in the harness feeding that lamp, probably on the line
side. I haven't located my short yet, but guess it's probably in one of
the connectors. Hope that helps!
Bill Marcussen
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:54:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Eric J. Hennebury" (aj532@freenet.toronto.on.ca)
Subject: DML: re: Wheel Colour
I'm not sure what the aluminum would look like when polished, but
for a more durable finish I would suggest powder coating. I just had my
rims done and they look great. Most places will probably be capable of
matching the original colour, and this stuff is practically bullet
proof. No more flaking and corrosion for me!
Eric
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Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 19:44:46 -0400
From: Bob Miarecki (RMiarecki@worldnet.att.net)
Subject: DML: Temperature Gauge Inop.
I was checking my 4 way blinker relay and when I was done I discovered =
that my Temp. gauge was not working. Someone told me to ground the =
sending unit's lead to ground and see if the gauge moved. It didn't. =
Any ideas?
Another problem I have been having is not enough cold air from the air =
conditioner. The pressures are 220 hi side and 70 lo side with the =
compressor running. The compressor also cycles on and off every 3 to 5 =
seconds.
I was going to have the system evacuated and recharged next week so =
before I went through the expense does something need to be replaced? I =
am thinking of a blocked screen near the dryer while it's apart(in =
line). =20
Thanks in advance
Bob Miarecki
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Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 02:18:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: CDIUSAMPS@aol.com
Subject: DML: RE: New DeLorean Car on Network News
Mike, Review of AP news stories for the past week indicates 2 stories
with
JZD in the text. One concerns the computer company of an individual who
was
previously the co-founder of Applied Composite Technology, INC, which was
"involved developing the composite material aspects of the prototype for
the
Delorean DMC-12 sports car." The second story involves a new SUV named
the
"Stinger", which will be sold with an aluminum body. Due to the "nearly
rustproof body", and the fact the vehicle was developed and will be built
by
a new company, the entire project was equated to DMC. BILL
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Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 18:04:15 -0600
From: bkreisle@basenet.net
Subject: Re: DML: New DeLorean car on network news?
Mike Substelny wrote:
>
> Last night, while having a beer at a local watering hole, one
> of my friends mentioned that she heard John Z. DeLorean's
> name on the national news Tuesday night. Unfortunately,
> she couldn't remember what network it was, or very many
> details about the feature.
>
> The story was about some new car that is going to be built,
> possibly from stainless steel. She was not sure that JZD
> was actually building the car, since the story sounded like
> another man was going to do that. Perhaps DeLorean was
> merely mentioned because you can't talk about stainless
> cars without dropping the his name.
>
> I was really sorry I missed it. Did anyone else hear about
> this story?
>
> - Mike Substelny
I read an article Wed, July 2 in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch about a new
car being built out of aluminum. Its built by Warnes International
Vehicles Inc.. It's located in Fredericksburg, Va. Its called the
Stinger and is being hand built by the group of 16 people. It will
retail between 16 and 22k. It looks like a jeep and is said to get 50
mpg. The article mentioned JZD many times as a comparison to the small
Warnes group.
This may be what your friend heard, but who knows.
Brad.
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 97 07:19:00 PDT
From: Knut S Grimsrud (Knut_S_Grimsrud@ccm.jf.intel.com)
Subject: DML: Re: Newsletter sharing
The DeLorean Club of Oregon already shares its newsletters with
several regional organizations and if you would send your preferred
snail-mail address I will include you on the list. I will share any
newsletters I receive with the local membership.
DeLorean Club of Oregon
8505 SW 184th Loop
Aloha, OR 97007
Knut
______________________________ Reply Separator
_________________________________
Subject: Newsletter sharing
Author: trl2@america.net at SMTPGATE
Date: 6/29/97 8:18 PM
We, in the Southeastern DeLorean Owners Club already share our =
newsletter with other former DOA regional chapters, and I think it would
=
be helpful to do the same with your groups. To this end, would you =
please send me your snail mail addresses so that Ed Tittel, our =
newsletter editor, can make sure that we send a copy of ours along to =
you.
Thanks,
Tom Long
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:02:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Eric J. Hennebury" (aj532@freenet.toronto.on.ca)
Subject: DML: re: Hot Start Relay.
Dave,
My '83 is VIN 17065 meaning that it is intended for the Canadian
market. I too have this extra relay in the engine compartment. Seems to
me that there probably aren't too many places in Canada where such a
relay would be required. I have a feeling that they are probably on most
Deloreans. I do remember reading about how the juice from the coil is
knocked down after initial start up to prevent excess wear/ damage to the
distributor and rotors... could it be possible that this is the purpose
of the relay? If so, could this be held accountable for some of the
plethora of starting difficulties we've all heard about here on the
list? Anybody else have any info/ ideas about this relay?
Eric
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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 11:23:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nexus6Neon@aol.com
Subject: DML: Re: Southeastern DeLorean Owners Club
Hello --
Would you please post an address or other contact information about the
Southeastern DeLorean Owners Club? I live in Tampa, FL and have been
waiting
for a club like this for some time.
Thanks,
Brian Henderlong
Nexus6Neon@aol.com
DeLorean Owners Assoc. #4977
DeLorean Motor Club #0026
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Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 21:26:40 -0700
From: John Kohler (jhk@sonic.net)
Subject: DML: Misc Delorean Parts Available
Well I sold my delorean a while back and now it is time to sell all the
parts that are lying around..
Related: Back to the Future Delorean Model,Back to the Future Licence
Plate,
Back to the Future Key Chain
Parts:
WINDOW GLASS,STEERING RACK, RADIATOR, RADIATOR SHROUD, REAR BUMPER, REAR
BUMPER COVER, OIL DRAIN PLUG TOOL, RADIATOR PRESSURE TESTER KIT
Pioneer KEH-7878 Cassette Car Stereo
This Stereo makes an excellent replacement for a worn out Delorean Unit.
No need to HACK up the delorean to install this stereo! Just remove the
old
one, and slip this one in. Perfect Fit!
For prices, pictures and further details see:
http://www.sonic.net/jhk/delorean
Items are priced to sell. Many items are NEW, some are take-offs...
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