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Thursday, July 10 1997 Volume 02 : Number 258
In this issue:
DML: New Brake Product
DML: Brake Fluid
DML: lowering kit |
DML: blackouts
DML: spare parts.
DML: Re: Brake Fluid type
DML: delorean
DML: RE: Re: Brake Fluid type
DML: clutch fork needed
DML: Relays
Re: DML: Relays
DML: Re: Finding relay locations
DML: Cooling fans
DML: Delorean parts for sale
DML: ADMIN NOTE: Missed dates and other miscellany
DML: Musty Interior
DML: speed power and seats!
DML: transmission computer
DML: ADMIN NOTE: Proper posting
DML: Brakes
DML: cooling system
DML: Delorean Insurance
DML: Insurance for my delorean
DML: Insurance fees
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Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 19:08:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mpeak@aol.com
Subject: DML: New Brake Product
A couple of months ago I made a posting to see if there was anybody else
who
would be interested in purchasing high performance cross-drilled rotors.
I
had located the manufacturer of Delorean rotors and discussed the idea
with
the person in charge of the high performance division. The idea of a
cross
drilled rotor for the Delorean appealed to him and, instead of only
making a
special order for me and the other dozen who reponded to my posting, he
decided to include the product as a regular item included in his catalog.
It took a while to complete the project as he was working on several other
projects at the same time, but about a month ago I received the
prototypes in
the mail. I installed them immediately after receiving them and have
since
put on about 200 miles on the car. They are still in the break-in period
(200-500 miles) so I haven't been really hard on them yet, but the
difference
is noticeable. Besides the beautiful look of gold anodization and cadmium
plating, I notice less brake fade and more response.
Cross-drilling is a 15%-25% upgrade from the stock solid rotors. They run
40% cooler and stop 20% better (that percentage increases in the rain). I
have combined these rotors with semi-metallic pads for extra heat
reduction,
absolutely no brake squeal, and no noticeable brake dust.
Although many owners would agree that the original rotors provide good
stopping power, what the cross-drilled version will give you that the
solid
ones won't is increased longevity due to less heat and thus less warping,
better value for the dollar, shorter breaking distances, and better
control
in the rain.
The rotors are made by Auto Specialty. The part numbers are:
Front rotors: EBR424R, EBR424L
Rear rotors: EBR451R, EBR451L
Front brake pads: Axxis metal master 23-059-01
Rear brake pads: Axxis metal master 23-009-01
Axxis metal master pads are formally Repco brand pads. I highly recommend
the pads along with the rotors to further decrease rotor temperature.
Although I have not priced them yet at my local Auto Specialty wholesaler,
the price should be around $120 per rotor and the pads should run about
$23
per axle set.
If you are interested in buying these rotors, you can call Auto Specialty
at
1-800-275-3617. Ask for Matt Weiss and tell him that you are interested
in
purchasing cross-drilled rotors for the Delorean and you would like to
know
where the nearest Auto Specialty wholesaler is located in your area. He
is
very friendly and can answer any questions you may have about the rotors.
You can also e-mail me with any questions you may have about these
rotors.
Matt Peak
mpeak@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 06 Jul 97 20:51:29 PDT
From: "Brandon S. Moody" (bsmoody@kih.net)
Subject: DML: Brake Fluid
Can someone tell me the correct type of brake fluid to use for
the DMC-12 ?
- -brandon
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Date: Sun, 06 Jul 97 21:00:42 PDT
From: "Brandon S. Moody" (bsmoody@kih.net)
Subject: DML: lowering kit |
has anyone ever found a lowering kit for there D ?
I have heard that there is one available .
- -bsmoody@kih.net
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Date: Sun, 06 Jul 97 20:56:36 PDT
From: "Brandon S. Moody" (bsmoody@kih.net)
Subject: DML: blackouts
has anyone ever found tail lamp blackouts for their DMC-12 ?
I have found ones for the headlamps.
- -bsmoody@kih.net
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Date: Sun, 06 Jul 97 20:57:26 PDT
From: "Brandon S. Moody" (bsmoody@kih.net)
Subject: DML: spare parts.
Looking for an extra rear louver .
bsmoody@kih.net
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 11:30:13 -0400
From: Mike Substelny (SUBSTEM@cesmtp.ccf.org)
Subject: DML: Re: Brake Fluid type
Brandon asked:
>" Can someone tell me the correct type of brake fluid to
> use for the DMC-12 ?"
The DeLorean Sports Car uses DOT 4 fluid. "DMC 12" was
an early, pre-production name for the DeLorean that I think
was applied to several prototypes. I have no idea what sort
of fluid these prototypes used.
Brandon, in the future if you don't get prompt answers to this
type of question from me or other DML posters I suggest you
try searching the archives. The search engine is still a bit
rough, but it works. Several past discussions about brake
fluids can be found in just a few key strokes.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:20:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Wakko7777@aol.com
Subject: DML: delorean
i would appreciate anyone who could help me find a delorean on sale accept
for the one at the Lexus dealership nearby. thanks a lot.
Kevin
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:14:32 -0400
From: Rob Hook (rob_hook@pop.net)
Subject: DML: RE: Re: Brake Fluid type
\
>>" Can someone tell me the correct type of brake fluid to
>> use for the DMC-12 ?"
>The DeLorean Sports Car uses DOT 4 fluid. "DMC 12" was
>an early, pre-production name for the DeLorean that I think
>was applied to several prototypes. I have no idea what sort
>of fluid these prototypes used.
Mike,
I thought DMC-12 was later registered as the model since so many
beuracracies required a model name? Anyway, several people on the list
suggested Castrol GTLMA DOT 4 fluid. I hope this is right as I put it in
my brand-new brakes. Whatever you do, DON'T USE THE WRONG FLUID. My
DeLorean needed the entire braking system rebuilt from having the wrong
fluid in it from a previous owner.
- --Rob Hook
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 14:51:55 -0500
From: Cisneros (12209@www1.utech.net)
Subject: DML: clutch fork needed
Hello
I am looking for a clutch fork for an "81" I contacted DeloreanOne only
to be told the whole package will be $400. The retaining spring steel
broke at the rivet. I had it replaced at a welding shop and it broke
again. Any suggestions before I reconsider the $400.
email me at:
"cisneros@utech.net"
Joe
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 18:13:33 -0700
From: The Olsons (usolsons@televar.com)
Subject: DML: Relays
I can find relays on the schematic but then I doen't know what position
it's in in the
relay compartment. Does anyone have a cross reference of what each relay
does, and
what position it is in?
Thanks in advance
D. Olson
usolsons@televar.com
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 07:50:09 -0500
From: Bill Marcussen (billmarcussen@sprintmail.com)
Subject: Re: DML: Relays
The Olsons wrote:
> I can find relays on the schematic but then I doen't know what
> position
> it's in in the
> relay compartment. Does anyone have a cross reference of what each
> relay
> does, and
> what position it is in?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> D. Olson
> usolsons@televar.com
Relay locations are in figure 31 on page M:07:02 of the Workshop
Manual. The key to this diagram is on the preceding page.
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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 13:00:31 -0400
From: Mike Substelny (SUBSTEM@cesmtp.ccf.org)
Subject: DML: Re: Finding relay locations
D.Olson said:
> Does anyone have a cross reference of what each relay
> does, and what position it is in?
As far as I can remember, no one has ever published a
diagram of the relay compartment on the web. However,
there is a nice illustration/description of it (and a lot of other
goodies) in the DeLorean World Tech notes. This notebook
is available from the DOA, I think it's only about fifteen
bucks. You might be able to order it from their website at:
http://www.delorean-owners.org/index.html
Off the top of my head, I can't remember any of the relays
today. I think the start inhibit relay (bane of my soul!) is in
the lower left, beside the fan bypass.
When I first got my car (before I knew where to get help) I
started making my own relay diagram. Because I had the
schematic, I knew what to look for (low beam relay, high
beam relay, start inhibit relay, etc). After about twenty
minutes of pushing buttons with my left hand while my right
hand was feeling which relay clicked, I had almost all of them
mapped.
Good luck,
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 9:15:47 +0100
From: andreas@tradesoft.se
Subject: DML: Cooling fans
Phillip (or anyone)
Have you found out what caused your cooling fans to stop after two
seconds
every time they come on. I seam to have the same problem with my car.
Until
awhile ago they worked fine but now when it's really warm here they don't
anylonger.
Andreas
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 07:24:02 -0700
From: Bob Benyon (u1003611@warwick.net)
Subject: DML: Delorean parts for sale
If anyone is looking for doors, quarter panels, 5sp trans, axels,
suspension parts or anything else, I have these for sale. I need the room
so prices are reasonable.
Bob Benyon
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 97 08:19:02 -0000
From: James Espey (espey@dmcnews.com)
Subject: DML: ADMIN NOTE: Missed dates and other miscellany
>The 'zine web page talks about the first issue of the 'zine being
>available for download in early June, but I don't find any place to
>access the 'zine for download. Am I doing something wrong or has the
>publication date been rolled back?
>
>Also, is there a target date for the next update to the owners
>directory?
>
>Please don't infer even the slightest level of criticism from these
>questions -- I'm just trying to keep myself up to speed with what's
>going on. Thanks for the great effort in creating and maintaining the
>site and the mailing list for all of us "passive" participants to use.
I am taking the liberty of fowarding the response to these questions
(which were emailed to me personally) to the list so that all the rest of
you who have the same thoughts will have an answer.
As we speak, the latest "proof" of the 'zine is coming out of my laser
printer and I intend to have it available for download by the end of the
week. A last minute article swap and the correction of MANY grammatical
errors (note to self: never have an english teacher proof the 'zine
again) caused me to miss the early June date.
The "DeLorean Owners Directory" has a new format with the next update.
This new format should make the directory more "usable" and therefore
more appealing to all. If you have already registered, please take a
moment and fill out the "update form" in the lounge. If you have NOT yet
registered, please visit the following URL and get listed!
http://www.dmcnews.com/directory.html
I appreciate all the interest from everyone in the list, the 'zine and
the web pages. BTW, the mailing list has 617 subscriptions as of this AM.
This is a new high for the list, which has been running for not quite two
years. Incidentally, according to recent correspondence I received from
the DOA, their active membership is 1567.
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com/
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 13:08:58 -0500
From: Bill Marcussen (billmarcussen@sprintmail.com)
Subject: DML: Musty Interior
The interior of our D smells musty, no doubt from too many years of
sitting closed up in dark, humid conditions. The smell may be due to
moisture standing in the car at some point in the past, although I find
no evidence of current leakage. Anyway, can anyone recommend a product
and/or procedure that would eliminate (not cover up) the mustiness,
short of replacing the interior, which is otherwise in very good
condition.
Thanks in advance for the assistance.
Bill Marcussen
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 14:36:54 -0500
From: Jabeen Ahed (jahed@orbitel.com)
Subject: DML: speed power and seats!
Dear DML,
I have finally gotten my car up to par. Everything is running nice and
all I have left is the reapholstry to the ceiling carpets and the seat
covers. I remember being asked to go in on deals for seat covers... I
wish I had the money then! Now I have money and I would like to
purchase them. I have an '81 with black leather interior. I remember a
few of you guys out there could get them for me at a better price. If
anybody out there could help me I would be very greatful.
Next problem! I know the car was fast back in its day but not anymore
today!!!! I don't want to do anything drastic like pull the engine and
put in a big engine... I want to do something like turbo chargers or
SUPER CHARGER!!!! Has anybody put a super charger on their car? I want
to go fast!!!!! I want some real power!!! What do you guys suggest!
Oh and will it dramatically shorten the life of the engine???? Thank
you guys for all your help!
Jameel Ahed
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 97 18:07:15 PDT
From: "Brandon S. Moody" (bsmoody@kih.net)
Subject: DML: transmission computer
Once upon a time, there was a posting about a procedure and part number
on the Automatic Tran computer, does anyone have this message.
It was a jeep/eagle part number. Due to a hard drive crash, I lost my
archive of old e-mail messages. But, the good ole tape drive put
everything
else back in place :-)
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 97 17:11:42 -0000
From: James Espey (espey@dmcnews.com)
Subject: DML: ADMIN NOTE: Proper posting
As of late there has been a lot of improper posting to the list - most of
whic you have not seen because they have been returned to the sender with
"proper posting instructions". Here's an example:
Person A sends a post about an item they have for sale - this is fine
until...
Person B sends a post TO THE LIST making an offer or asking how much the
item is.
Please conduct personal business in private email - the other 600+
subscribers do not care that you think Person A is out of his mind for
wanting $ number of dollars for that part, or that you will offer him X
number of dollars for that item.
I think that many times this is caused by Person B being anxious and just
hittng the "REPLY:" button on their email client instead of taking the
time to type in the email address of the sender.
Anyone with questions, please feel free to contact me VIA PRIVATE EMAIL
at my address below.
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com/
espey@dmcnews.com
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:55:23 -0500
From: "Travis H. Graham" (TGraham999@aol.com)
Subject: DML: Brakes
I just learned that I need new brake rotors and calipers. Are there any =
calipers and/or rotors from another car that are identical to my =
DeLorean brakes? Also, everyone keeps talking about cross-reference =
lists for parts, where can I get one? Thanks.
Travis 6344
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:05:04 -0500
From: "Travis H. Graham" (TGraham999@aol.com)
Subject: DML: cooling system
About 3 weeks ago, I noticed that my DeLorean suddenly started heating =
up. The temp got up to the beginning of the red, then it shot down to =
normal. I learned that the fans were turning on late. Adding coolent =
and bleeding fixed the problem for about a month, then it all happened =
again...with the coolent level down just like the last time. Does =
anyone else have this problem?
Travis # 6344 TGraham999@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 22:51:40 -0400
From: Sean Mullally (mullally@pilot.msu.edu)
Subject: DML: Delorean Insurance
Hello all,
I am currently looking at a Delorean to buy. It is an 81 Automatic,
vin# 3868. One thing I have been thinking about is the Insurance. I know
any sports car is going to be fairly high rates, but is this "D" going
to cost me an arm and a leg to insure? What has been everyone's
experience with this?
- -Sean Mullally
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Date: 7/10/97 6:10 AM
From: steve@world.std.com, stevem3@fcs-net.com
Subject: DML: Insurance for my delorean
Ive been with state farm for 17 years perfect dirving record no
tickets/no accidents, i took delivery of my 82 dmc-12 vin 10734 last
week, called my insurance company, changed over the policy from a jeep
to my delorean, but i just got a notice in the mail today,that the
policy will only be carried for 6 months and will be cancled....
HELP, what insurance companies cover deloreans in florida, and are the
rates going to put me in the poor house....
stevem3@fcs-net.com (temp e-mail address for two more weeks)
i will be back in florida by july 25th and my e-mail there is
stevem@digital.net
this is a real problem for me!
thanks in advance////
//
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 97 17:00:07 +0200
From: Krister.Tanneryd@sto3.sas.se
Subject: DML: Insurance fees
Hello all,
In Sweden we pay about 5000 SEK per annum = 667$ for your bench marking
information.
Bgrds Tanneryd
vin 5713
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