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Monday, July 14 1997 Volume 02 : Number 259
In this issue:
Re: DML: Delorean Insurance
DML: Delorean WANTED
DML: Protoype brochure
DML: Front grill question...
DML: Re: Speed Power
DML: Answers to front grill questions
Re: DML: Insurance for my delorean
Re: DML: Insurance for my delorean
DML: DeLorean questions.
Re: DML: Insurance for my delorean
DML: Cooling fan
DML: RE: transmission computer
Re: DML: Insurance for my delorean
Re: DML: Delorean WANTED
Re: DML: Delorean Insurance
DML: \\\\\ Silver Beauty for sale /////
Re: DML: Delorean Insurance
DML: Delorean Model Update
DML: Does that Eagle transmission computer really work?
DML: DeLorean questions. -Reply
Re: DML: Delorean WANTED
Re: DML: Protoype brochure
DML: wanted: front fender
Re: DML: Delorean Model Update
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 08:54:20 -0600 (MDT)
From: raddad@cmn.net
Subject: Re: DML: Delorean Insurance
>Hello all,
> I am currently looking at a Delorean to buy. It is an 81 Automatic,
>vin# 3868. One thing I have been thinking about is the Insurance. I know
>any sports car is going to be fairly high rates, but is this "D" going
>to cost me an arm and a leg to insure? What has been everyone's
>experience with this?
>
>-Sean Mullally
Since there have been two insurance queries today, here's my two cents.
Seldom are there advantages to being older, but AARP overs great insurance
through the ITT Hartford group. It is very reasonable. I have my
coverage
there.
If you are not of AARP age, you might try the Hartford. Perhaps they also
insure DeLoreans on a regular basis.
You can always go the "collector car" insurance route, but I drive mine
much to much to qualify for such coverage.
Dick Ryan
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:29:45 -0400
From: jeepman4@juno.com
Subject: DML: Delorean WANTED
I'm 17 years old and I've been a DeLorean Enthusiast all my life. I had
to buy my Jeep due to a family tradition, me being a 3rd generation Jeep
owner. I am now ready to buy my DeLorean. I'm looking for a manual
transmission D in good condition. Is anybody out there selling there's.
- -Jeffrey B.
jeepman4@juno.com
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:26:17 -0700
From: steve brodsky (a0017673@mail.airmail.net)
Subject: DML: Protoype brochure
I recall some discussion recently about a D, probably a prototype, with
a different door window configuration, different wheels and sans
louvers. While going through some "junk" this morning, I found some
sales brochures that I was given when I bought 10688 at Consolidated in
1983. They are tri-folds with a picture of this car. It indeed has a
door window with a vertical channel about 1/3 towards the handle side of
the glass. The wheel are not as deep dish as the factory and there is no
louver. The interior is black but does not show the dash/instrument
cluster.
Steve Brodsky #10688
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 14:47:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: ATMorgan1@aol.com
Subject: DML: Front grill question...
On the early delorean pictures that I have seen there is no DMC logo on
the
grill. My question is where these just tester cars or did the very first
deloreans not have a front emblem? I have also heard that there are two
different sized front emblems depending on what year it is... Can anybody
explain why they changed or if the first had no emblems? Thanks,
Alex Morgan.
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:56:58 -0400
From: "Marc Levy" (marc.levy@prudential.com)
Subject: DML: Re: Speed Power
>Next problem! I know the car was fast back in its day but not anymore
>today!!!! I don't want to do anything drastic like pull the engine and
>put in a big engine... I want to do something like turbo chargers or
>SUPER CHARGER!!!! Has anybody put a super charger on their car? I want
>to go fast!!!!! I want some real power!!! What do you guys suggest!
>Oh and will it dramatically shorten the life of the engine???? Thank
>you guys for all your help!
As has been said before, Speed costs money. How fast can you afford to go?
I have the Island Twin Turbos on my otherwise stock Delorean. I have not
spent any large amounts of time in a stock DMC, but I am told that the
Twin
Turbos cut 2-3 seconds off of the 0-60 time. More information is
available
about this in the DML archives.
The current configuration is limited to 6Lbs of boost, because the engine
is otherwise stock. With a performance rebuild (new pistons, rings, and
such) I am told the boost can be increased safely to 15-20Lbs. I am sure
that would give it some extra smile generating zip, but we are talking
about much more money.
I have not seen any super chargers, but it is kinda tight in there, so I
dont think it would be practical.
The cheapest way may be for you to sell your car, and buy one that already
has the Turbo setup, or has one of the Chevy small block kits in it.
Performance parts for Chevy small block are cheap (in comparison). I am
not sure what those kits do to the Tranny, so you may want to get some
more
information on it.
The best thing may be to leave it alone, and buy yourself a fast car for
the days you want to go fast. I got myself a used Taurus SHO that will
blow the doors off of my turbo DMC, along with the punks in the 5.0
Mustangs!! That will most likely cost you less in
the long run, and will be less aggravation.
Marc
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 15:28:53 -0400
From: Mike Substelny (SUBSTEM@cesmtp.ccf.org)
Subject: DML: Answers to front grill questions
Alex Morgan asked:
> On the early delorean pictures that I have seen there is
> no DMC logo on the grill.
> My question is where these just tester cars or did the
> very first deloreans not have a front emblem?
The VIN #500 car has no DMC grill emblem, either. It was
not a prototype (since it was made on the assembly line) but
it was also not a regular production car (since it was never
intended to be sold). To my knowledge, every car that DMC
sent to dealers had the DMC emblem. These started
somewhere around VIN #1000.
I think all the production cars had the same DMC grill
emblem. The later cars had an additional DELOREAN
emblem on the driver's side front corner of the luggage
compartment lid. The letters on the DELOREAN emblem are
smaller than the ones on the DMC emblem.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:10:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: TVRUS@aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: Insurance for my delorean
Geeeeee.... I've got State Farm and a simular driving history... but no
cancellation notice??? And I just renewed the policy last week here in
Minnesota... check w/ another agent maybe????
Scott
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 15:35:29 -0700
From: raddad@cmn.net
Subject: Re: DML: Insurance for my delorean
>Geeeeee.... I've got State Farm and a simular driving history... but no
>cancellation notice??? And I just renewed the policy last week here in
>Minnesota... check w/ another agent maybe????
>
>Scott
When I moved to Colorado from Califronia, State Farm would only insure
liability. No collision, comprehnsive, etc. That's whay I went through
the AARP. BTW, my premium on the DeLorean is less than on my 8 year old
Jeep Cherokee! My record is squeakly clean.
Dick Ryan
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 16:56:10 -0700
From: bpayne@macnet.com (Brandon Payne)
Subject: DML: DeLorean questions.
I'm only fifteen and I have a love for DeLoreans. I would give anything
to
own one. A nice lady in Portland had one where I live and I was allowed
to
start it and even ride in it! I've been studying these cars for quite a
while, but I still get varying facts about these cars, such as the top
speed. I have heard it to bbe 134mph, which seens correct, and I have
also
heard it to be 109 mph, which seems relatively slow. I have also heard
the
horsepower to be 130@5500rpm, and the weight to be 2.838lbs. Are these
correct? How do you tell the difference between an '81, '82, and an '83?
Thanks!
bpayne@macnet.com
- ---------------Sock Monkeys have invaded your computer!---------------
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 17:52:04 -0800
From: Vincent Voss (vvoss@Alaska.NET)
Subject: Re: DML: Insurance for my delorean
Most of the Majors will not insure a Delorean under their
preferred programs. While I have my coverage through Allstate
I insure my Delorean throught Allstate Imdemnity for about 40% more
than my daily driver. Under this policy I am also able to suspend the
insurance (all but comp) during time I do not drive it (minimum 1 month
suspension at a time). This is where your relationship wiht your agent
is important.If your agent is unwilling or unable to help you then mabey
you have the wrong agent.
Vincent Voss
81 DMC
65 Jag 3.8S
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 21:40:32 -0500
From: Duke (duke@entremob.com)
Subject: DML: Cooling fan
The other day I ran over a rock and it somehow broke a blade off one of =
the cooling fans and damaged the housing. Strangely enough, it did no =
damage whatsoever to the front air dam. Anyway, I can't find just a =
cooling fan from any of the usual DMC sources and was wondering if =
anyone knew what fan is compatible with the DeLorean or what other type =
of car has the same type of cooling fan setup that the DeLorean has. =
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!!!
Thanks in advance,
Duke Bladorn
www.geocities/motorcity/8952/delorean.html
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 21:33:17 -0500
From: Duke (duke@entremob.com)
Subject: DML: RE: transmission computer
The jeep/eagle part number for the A/T Computer Governor is T1585496.
Also, for those of you interested, the Volvo part Number for the water
pump is 1218158-2. Hope this helps.
Duke Bladorn
www.geocities.com/motorcity/8952/delorean.html
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 01:56:22 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Marvin S. Sterling" (marv930@ix.netcom.com)
Subject: Re: DML: Insurance for my delorean
At , you wrote:
>Ive been with state farm for 17 years perfect dirving record no
>tickets/no accidents
>policy will only be carried for 6 months and will be cancled....
- -------------------------------------------------
try Allstate - they have filed ratings for the DMC-12 - a lot of carriers
do
not have filings with the state ins departments and cannot write coverage
for the DeLorean.
Regards,
Marv Sterling
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 02:03:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Marvin S. Sterling" (marv930@ix.netcom.com)
Subject: Re: DML: Delorean WANTED
At 11:29 AM 7/10/97 -0400, you wrote:
>I'm 17 years old and I've been a DeLorean Enthusiast all my life. I had
>to buy my Jeep due to a family tradition, me being a 3rd generation Jeep
>owner. I am now ready to buy my DeLorean. I'm looking for a manual
>transmission D in good condition. Is anybody out there selling there's.
>
>
>
>-Jeffrey B.
>jeepman4@juno.com
>
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Yes - mine is - '83 vin # 16000 - perfect condition - 32K miles - new
clutch, SS overflow bottle, steel braided clutch line - asking 20,000 firm
Car located in Whitestone, New York - am original owner - purchased
February
1984.
Regards,
Marv Sterling
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 01:59:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Marvin S. Sterling" (marv930@ix.netcom.com)
Subject: Re: DML: Delorean Insurance
At 10:51 PM 6/29/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Hello all,
> I am currently looking at a Delorean to buy. It is an 81 Automatic,
>vin# 3868. One thing I have been thinking about is the Insurance. I know
>any sports car is going to be fairly high rates, but is this "D" going
>to cost me an arm and a leg to insure? What has been everyone's
>experience with this?
>
>-Sean Mullally
- -----------------------------------------------------
The D is not rated as a high powered sports car by most companies. The
rate
is going to depend on your age,driving record and now, believe it or not,
your credit record.
Regards,
Marv Sterling
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 00:50:09 -0700
From: Tim McCoy or current computer user (tmccoy@demand-sys.com)
Subject: DML: \\\\\ Silver Beauty for sale /////
If any readers, or friends of readers, are in search of a beautiful, yet
affordable DMC...your time has come.
Due to situations beyond my control, I must sell a 1981 DMC. It has 40K
miles and is in good condition. It has been a faithful, reliable and
rewarding companion. The air conditioner was serviced 2 YEARS ago, and
keeps me cool still today. The automatic transmission's computer was
refurbished with upgraded circuits and chips (no troubles for years).
The black leather interior hasn't a crack, and looks quite impressive!
I am accepting offers. Do not be shy, just say you saw it on the
mailing list and we'll talk. Please contact me by phone! This e-mail
is a friend's address. (805)482-4788 Thomas.
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1986 01:08:26 -0700
From: Lee Seiler (lseiler@ccnet.com)
Subject: Re: DML: Delorean Insurance
At 10:51 PM 6/29/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Hello all,
> I am currently looking at a Delorean to buy. It is an 81 Automatic,
>vin# 3868. One thing I have been thinking about is the Insurance. I know
>any sports car is going to be fairly high rates, but is this "D" going
>to cost me an arm and a leg to insure? What has been everyone's
>experience with this?
>
>-Sean Mullally
>
>
Hello All, and you too Sean,
I live in California so I am not sure that the rates I pay are
reflective of what you might expect.
I imported my 81 DMC-12 Vin 5729 in May, so it was a new Cal
registration as well as First time smog, and new car taxes. Here we are
required to have proof of insurance befor a car can be registered. I
thought
the whole deal would cost a small fortune, NOT SO! not including all the
registration and taxes, Smog stuff:
I pay $362.50 every Six months and could have gotten monthly
payments had I wanted them. We applied for full coverage for the DMC,
100K,250K uninsured motorist, Full medical and $250 deductable. We also
have
two other cars on the same policy, but listed the DMC as a pleasure only,
10Kmiles Yr. Coupe'. We have two other Mid value cars that each cost with
in
$50 a year of the amount we pay for the DMC, from the total we get a Big
Good driver discount, for no accidents, tickets, etc....Send me an e-mail
if
you would like the company name and details.
Good Luck!
Lee
VIN#5729
lee@ccnet.com
Tel: (510) 649-9118 Fax: (510) 848-7613
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 18:01:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: WINGD2@aol.com
Subject: DML: Delorean Model Update
A quick update on the Delorean model kits we're having made. I spoke
with Art a couple of days ago and he is presently recovering from
emergency
surgery. Needless to say the delivery dates of July for our models have
slipped. The kits are part way thru production and will be finished when
Art
gets back to work. He's hoping it will be soon. I'm guessing we may
finally
see kits in Augest.
To those who have sent me money, your checks are still in my file
drawer. Like I said befor, I will not deposit them ( I hope the're still
good
) until I actually have kits in hand to ship to you. To those who have
inquired but not sent money, we are only having 25 kits made. At present
we
still have a couple of kits available. If you want one send in your check
and
I'll put your name on one. I'm not "holding" kits for anyone. The person
who
bankrolled this project is going to take any and ALL kits left unsold, so
if
you want one you had better act now.
Thanks, Marty
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:49:33 -0400
From: Mike Substelny (SUBSTEM@cesmtp.ccf.org)
Subject: DML: Does that Eagle transmission computer really work?
Duke Bladorn said:
> The jeep/eagle part number for the A/T Computer
> Governor is T1585496.
Duke, are you sure this computer will work on the DeLorean?
I was under the impression that the Jeep/Eagle version of the
computer was many years newer than the DeLorean version,
thus it might be incompatible.
If you have successfully installed this computer in a
DeLorean please let us know. I have been toying with that
idea myself.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:59:20 -0500
From: Aaron Barrus (AaronB@slc.twc.com)
Subject: DML: DeLorean questions. -Reply
Brandon said:
>> such as the top speed. I have heard it to bbe 134mph, which seens
correct, and I have also heard it to be 109 mph, which seems relatively
slow. I have also heard the horsepower to be 130@5500rpm, and the
weight to be 2.838lbs. Are these correct? How do you tell the
difference between an '81, '82, and an '83?
Top speed according to the brochure is 130, but I've heard people say
they've gone faster. I've personally done about 115 in a DeLorean, but
didn't want to push it any further since the owner was sitting in the car
with me. Horsepower is 130HP. DeLorean didn't make "production year"
changes to his DMC, therefore it is difficult to tell the year without
using
the VIN # or something. Early models had a seperate flap for the gas
tank in the hood, and window antennas. I believe later in 81 and through
82, you had to open the hood to fill the gas tank, and they also had a
power antenna in the rear quarter-panel. Some changes were made to
the exhaust pipe appearance from the rear. 83 (and maybe some 82's?)
have the word "DeLoean" on the front hood - but I could be wrong on
that one. . .
look at a FAQ at www.dmcnews.com for more answers to these
questions.
Aaron
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:39:21 -0400
From: jeepman4@juno.com
Subject: Re: DML: Delorean WANTED
ATTN: Marv Sterling,
Can I get your personal e-mail address, so we don't have to clog up the
mailing lists. Thanks!
- -Jeffrey B.
jeepman4@juno.com
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:58:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: RMoore2208@aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: Protoype brochure
The reason that the DeLorean you saaw was different is because Giorgetto
Giguiaro designed the car first...The Car you saw in your Brochure.... And
the DeLorean That was sold...(with the rear louver) Had been changed-after
the finishing design touches by team Lotus.
Hope this helps you...
- -RM
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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 97 15:51:02 CDT
From: barb@abucejo.sps.mot.com (Barbra Abucejo)
Subject: DML: wanted: front fender
I recently bought a '81 DMC and I need to replace the driver front fender.
Please let me know if anybody is interested in selling one.
Thanks,
Barbara
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Date: Sun, 13 Jul 97 19:08:49 -0700
From: Eddy Cue
Subject: Re: DML: Delorean Model Update
Marty,
What exactly are the kits (diecast, models, size, etc)? How much are
they? What is the expected delivery?
Thanks...
Eddy Cue
cue@apple.com
> A quick update on the Delorean model kits we're having made. I spoke
>with Art a couple of days ago and he is presently recovering from
>emergency
>surgery. Needless to say the delivery dates of July for our models have
>slipped. The kits are part way thru production and will be finished when
>Art
>gets back to work. He's hoping it will be soon. I'm guessing we may
>finally
>see kits in Augest.
>
> To those who have sent me money, your checks are still in my file
>drawer. Like I said befor, I will not deposit them ( I hope the're still
>good
>) until I actually have kits in hand to ship to you. To those who have
>inquired but not sent money, we are only having 25 kits made. At present
>we
>still have a couple of kits available. If you want one send in your check
>and
>I'll put your name on one. I'm not "holding" kits for anyone. The person
>who
>bankrolled this project is going to take any and ALL kits left unsold, so
>if
>you want one you had better act now.
>
> Thanks, Marty
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