DeLorean Mailing List - 7/11/98

Saturday, July 11 1998         Volume 03 : Number 387



       In this issue:

        DML: DCO 1999 & 2000 Calendar

        DML: Re: Re: FRAME COLOR

        DML: Re: Not Again!

        Re: DML: Not Again

        Re: DML: Re: Re: FRAME COLOR

        Re: DML: Not Again

        DML: Monterey Historic?

        DML: 26 Nov 1997 message from Hawkeye

        DML: Subwoofers behind seats

        DML: Monterey Historics

        DML: Happy new owner!

        DML: Re: Re: Re: FRAME COLOR

        DML: Re: Happy new owner! ( RPM Flux on Warm-up )

        DML: my first post

        DML: Getting Road Ready

        DML: Where are online parts suppliers?

        DML: Fuel level sending unit replacement

        DML: Biloxi, MS meeting

        DML: DMC animation

        Re: DML: Fuel level sending unit replacement

        DML: Fuel Pickup

        Re: DML: 26 Nov 1997 message from Hawkeye

        Re: DML: Re: Not Again!

        Re: DML: Fuel level sending unit replacement

        DML: Biloxi Meeting Mistake!!!!

        Re: DML: Fuel Pickup

        DML: Re: Fuel level sending unit replacement

        DML: Re: Happy new owner!

        DML: Re: 26 Nov 1997 message from Hawkeye

        DML: Re: Getting Road Ready

        DML: Re: trunk struts

        DML: Re: Where are online parts suppliers?

        Re: DML: Happy new owner!

        DML: Online parts sources

        DML: Window repair

        Re: DML: Fuel Pickup

        Re: DML: Online parts sources

        DML: RE: Happy new owner!

        Re: DML: Re: Not Again!

        DML: DeLorean '95 Expansion Released!

        DML: Labour Day Weekend?

        DML: engine upgrades
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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 17:56:00 -0400

From: "Yocom, Shannon" <syocom(AT)mitchellco.com>

Subject: DML: DCO 1999 & 2000 Calendar
To help fund the eventual purchase of my dream car, I am offering an

electronic 2-year DeLeorean calendar, promoting the DCO, for your

computer desktop backgrounds.

  Each month has a dominating DeLorean image w/ a small calendar in the

corners.  The images will be 72dpi (screen resolution) and burned to a

multi-platform CD-ROM (IBM & MAC friendly). It is the same calendar

displayed at the Cinn. Show but this CD-ROM version will include some

bonus images from the Cinn. Car Show (all thanks again go to Ken).  

  CD-ROM Price: $30.00 (includes shipping)

  To preview some sample months in .pdf form and/or order, please

respond to me:    syocom(AT)mitchellco.com   and not on the DML.  
- -Shannon

VIN# not yet!
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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:32:48 -0400

From: "Joe " <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>

Subject: DML: Re: Re: FRAME COLOR
Bruce,

As you know, car dealers regularly offer under coating as additional rust

protection to new car customers. The fact that this option effects a

salesmen's commission, is the reason that many DeLoreans were undercoated,

despite their "no corrosion" claim.

Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:33:31 -0400

From: "Joe " <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>

Subject: DML: Re: Not Again!
Lee,

You will probably have to get stuck one more time before you find the

problem, here's what to do. There are many items that can shut the fuel

system down and very few items that effect spark, so lets eliminate the

fuel pump first. I will assume that you have inspected the fuel pump fuse

(fuse # 7), if you haven't , go ahead and replace it even if it looks 

good.

And inspect the fuel pump itself, be sure connections are solid. Now lets

set up the test. Go back to your electrical compartment and locate the RPM

relay (black or green plastic cover with a blue multi pin connector)

located near the rear section. Hook up a test light between the any ground

wire and the white/blue wire in the multi pin connector. Run the test lamp

so that you can see it from the drivers seat, the lamp will be lit 

whenever

the fuel pump is running. The next time your engine quits see if the light

goes on when you crank the starter. If  the light does not light your

problem is in the fuel pump circuit.

If the light is on and the car will not start until it cools down you

probably have a bad impulse coil which is located in the ignition

distributor.

Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 20:32:59 -0500

From: scottmueller(AT)zebra.net (Scott Mueller)

Subject: Re: DML: Not Again
lseiler(AT)radiance.com wrote:

> 

> I posted about My "D" just stopping with out apparent reason while

> cruising

> down the Highway, (actually across a bridge).

> 

> Acting like the time before....no fuel.

> 

SNIP

> Any more suggestions would be welcome.

> 

> Lee

> 81DMC-12

Lee, My DeLorean died like yours while I was at the Montery British Car

Show last Spring.  We were on 17 Mile drive and it died.
No further suspense, my new fuel inlet hose had collasped.  The hose had

turned into a bubble gum like material.  I bought this hose from the

supplier that claims to be number 1.  I replaced the hose and all is

well.
Scott Mueller

2981 

Used to live in Pinole, now in Alabama
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Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 22:27:19 -0400

From: Sean Jones <shain(AT)noln.com>

Subject: Re: DML: Re: Re: FRAME COLOR
Hello,
WHat is a DeLorean's frame made of?
Sean
Joe wrote:
> Bruce,

> As you know, car dealers regularly offer under coating as additional rust

> protection to new car customers. The fact that this option effects a

> salesmen's commission, is the reason that many DeLoreans were undercoated,

> despite their "no corrosion" claim.

> Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:16:30 +0000

From: ausmith(AT)pdx.oneworld.com

Subject: Re: DML: Not Again
Hi,
<big snip>

> Any more suggestions would be welcome.

> 

> 

> Lee

> 81DMC-12

> 

Remember my last post to this problem? Check the plugs behind the 

drivers seat.
Chris
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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 20:12:26 +0000

From: ausmith(AT)pdx.oneworld.com

Subject: DML: Monterey Historic?
Hi,
For those of you who have never heard of the "Monterey Historic" go 

to;

http://www.laguna-seca.com

find the small lettering at the bottom of the page, click on events 

and follow the link.
I grew up in the area. Before there was a Laguna Seca there were the 

Pebble Beach Road Races. I went to the last one and then worked at 

Laguna Seca when I was in H.S..
Maybe we could plan an informal get-together there next year?
Chris
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 01:26:17 EDT

From: DNishihara(AT)aol.com

Subject: DML: 26 Nov 1997 message from Hawkeye
Marc, Hawkeye wrote about starting a car after a long period of not 

running.

I'm trying to do the same.  I've replaced gas lines to and from the tank,

lower tank hose, tank boot, fuel pump, tank fuel filter, line filter, 

cleaned

distrubutor, changed injector, & warm up regulator, added redline injector

cleaners and the car passed CA smog but when it is cold it has NO 

power...when

warm it is driveable.  I've not been drivieng the car but many people say 

that

driveing it is the only way to shake all the rubber & stuff out of the 

system.

If the car does start to run right should I look at changing the fuel

distributor & accummilator.  The car has 13,000 and had not been run in 

two

years and had California re-formulated gas in it.
If Hawkeye every responded to you or if you have his e-mail address, or 

phone

numbers, I would like to find out what happened?
Thanks for the help
Dave in Fremont, CA
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:14:16 -0700

From: "Ace Underhill" <luuke(AT)primenet.com>

Subject: DML: Subwoofers behind seats
Hello;  I remember someone saying they moved the battery and put speakers

in the compartments behind the seats.  I tried searching the archives, but

didn't find anything.  Would this person please email me?  Thanks;
       -Ace Underhill-

       Vin. 2860

       AZ Lic. 8T8 MPH
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 08:29:45 -0400

From: Mike Griese <magriese(AT)us.ibm.com>

Subject: DML: Monterey Historics
Lee - The Monterey Historics is probably the premier car weekend in the 

US.

Historic racing, concours, auctions, shows, and more million dollar cars 

per

square mile than you can count.  This is where the good stuff is.  This 

year's

featured marque is Porsche.
Michael A. Griese

IBM Storage Systems Division

Rochester, MN  55901

Internet: magriese(AT)us.ibm.com

voice:     (507)253-1853

fax:        (507)253-2880
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 98 01:53:22 EDT

From: L Sandel <34NPJUB(AT)CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>

Subject: DML: Happy new owner!
Well, after reading the list and searching for many months, I am the proud

owner of #10270, a 5-Speed with 9k miles.  Besides the typical problems,

(rear defroster switch inoperative, no R-12 from sitting unused for long

periods of time) the car is in great shape.  I do have a few questions 

tho:
1. The idle seems to pulse.  The RPMs bob up and down a bit, and the oil 

guage

   follows it (going from 80 down a bit and back up).  When the engine

   is hot it doesn't seem to do it.  Any ideas?  The car does need an oil

   change, which brings me to my next question...
2. 7 Quart crankcase capacity?!  Is this right?  Why so much oil for a

   fairly small V6?  I am switching the engine over to synthetic and the 

bill

   just got much more expensive.  Also, the owners manual gives a huge 

range

   of oil weights to use, are there any preferred?  I was going to go with

   Mobil 1 10-W30 (mainly because I have a few cases of it for my 

Bonneville).
3. Did all cars come with the PTFE (?) clutch cable?  Or did some have a

   steel cable (which everybody seems to prefer for obvious reasons).
4. While not too important, just curious:  The front tires are stock, but 

worn

   in such a way that it appears that when the 'American' springs were

   installed the toe was not properly adjusted.  Anybody else observe 

this or

   did the previous owner just take all the curves at 90MPH?
Thanks for any answers!

Luke Sandel
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:02:38 -0500

From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut(AT)postoffice.worldnet.att.net>

Subject: DML: Re: Re: Re: FRAME COLOR
> Bruce,

> As you know, car dealers regularly offer under coating as additional rust

> protection to new car customers. The fact that this option effects a

> salesmen's commission, is the reason that many DeLoreans were

> undercoated, despite their "no corrosion" claim.

> Joe/DeLorean Services
Joe,
I talked with people who worked in the quality assurance centers on both

coasts and they discribed the hours spent wire brushing things like brake

rotors because all that time parked near the oceans on the two ends of the

continent had corrosive effects on the chassis components.  I'm still

inclined to belive the undercoating was applied to reduce this problem,

aside from the rotors that is.

None of the DeLorean dealers in my area offered undercoating and the only

cars I've seen with it were the cars that sat after the company was about

done.

Bruce Benson
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 15:06:51 -0700

From: "Dave Price" <davep(AT)humanmachine.com>

Subject: DML: Re: Happy new owner! ( RPM Flux on Warm-up )
>1. The idle seems to pulse.  The RPMs bob up and down a bit, and the oil

>guage

>   follows it (going from 80 down a bit and back up).  When the engine

>   is hot it doesn't seem to do it.  Any ideas?
This is a normal warm-up activity.. It's even documented in the Owner's

Manual.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 16:25:22 -0600 (MDT)

From: Marschner Eric <marschne(AT)mscd.edu>

Subject: DML: my first post
 I am interested in the DeLorean very much at at this point don't

own one.  I would like to find one, but I find that they are generally

very high priced.  I understand this is a rare, exotic car but I just

don't see myself paying $20k (generally more) for a car that hasn't been

run in years - or that needs other work.  Anyways, I will browse this list

to see if the DeLorean is right for me.  If I could find a good running

DeLorean, I just might jump all over it.
 Thanks for reading.
Eric
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:25:17 -0400

From: "yugoman" <mdrig(AT)email.msn.com>

Subject: DML: Getting Road Ready
Hope to get #2423 out of storage and on the road a little next week. I 

have

a couple questions though.

1) Will be putting new tires all around, is there a torque spec for the 

lug

nuts so as not to damage rotors?

2) I've heard lots about the infamous Trailing Arm Bolts. How and where 

do I

check these, and can they be checked without the car jacked up or on a 

lift?

  Thanks!!!
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:58:38 EDT

From: CarlIanNew(AT)aol.com

Subject: DML: Where are online parts suppliers?
Does anyone have a good list of online parts suppliers?  There used to be

one called "KAPAC" which I can't find anymore.
thanks,

carl
DOA 5138
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 21:01:16 EDT

From: CarlIanNew(AT)aol.com

Subject: DML: Fuel level sending unit replacement
Has anyone replaced their fuel level sending unit with another type?

Can anyone tell me the point of three wires on the sending unit.
1.  Ground

2.  Variable resistence from ground

3.  ?? (Ground to fuel or fuel pump shutoff for bone dry?)
thanks,

carl
DOA 5138
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 20:51:50 -0500

From: steve r <stephenr(AT)net-2000.net>

Subject: DML: Biloxi, MS meeting
    I have finally decide to attempt having another D meeting.  This one

will be June 9th (Sunday) and several owners may be there.  If you live

nearby and would like to attend please let me know.  We will be meeting

at Sicily's Pizza in Biloxi, MS.  There will be a few Alabama owners and

a few Louisiana owners if things turn out well.  If you would like to

attend or need more information please contact at (504) 386-3816 or send

me an email and we will see what we can work out.
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 22:38:23 EDT

From: ABatt10347(AT)aol.com

Subject: DML: DMC animation
Fellow DMCer's,

Found a very good animation of a DMC doors opening. Check it out at

www.xpressnet.com/~subgyro/Delorean/index.html. I dont know the site 

owner,

but he did a good job.

Bruce Battles

Vin6569
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 98 23:31:39 PDT

From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody(AT)kih.net>

Subject: Re: DML: Fuel level sending unit replacement
> Has anyone replaced their fuel level sending unit with another type?

> Can anyone tell me the point of three wires on the sending unit.

> 

> 1.  Ground

> 2.  Variable resistence from ground

> 3.  ?? (Ground to fuel or fuel pump shutoff for bone dry?)

> 

> thanks,

> carl
3.  low fuel lamp !
- -Brandon
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 22:50:16 -0600

From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols(AT)earthlink.net>

Subject: DML: Fuel Pickup
Seldom do I feel that I can improve on  the design of the professional

engineer, but I'm convinced that the engineer who designed the fuel

pickup system must have worked for Lucus.  Again my $expensive fuel

pickup line is lying in a gummy mass on the bottom of the tank and I

have the common, quarter tank fuel syndrome (no long curves or steep

hills).  I'm sure that the new reformulated fuel is the culprit in

eating the natural rubber hose.
 I've found a replacement pump which is listed as a Delorean cross (it's

a Bosch pump for a VW) which has NPT female threads on the bottom and

will accept a elbow with a quarter or three eighths barb fitting for

neoprene fuel hose.  I'll run three to four feet of hose, making a

circle in the tank, and connect to the existing pickup strainer with

another elbow and a coupling with an inch of larger hose on the coupling

to fill the space and a stainless clamp.  I may have to cut some slots

in the strainer neck for the clamp to hold.
I haven't started the project yet but it seems so simple that maybe I'm

missing something.  Any comments would be appreciated.
Jim  #6884
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 20:12:49 -0700

From: "lseiler(AT)radiance.com" <lseiler(AT)radiance.com>

Subject: Re: DML: 26 Nov 1997 message from Hawkeye
At 01:26 AM 7/8/98 EDT, you wrote:

>Marc, Hawkeye wrote about starting a car after a long period of not 

>running.

>I'm trying to do the same.  I've replaced gas lines to and from the tank,

>lower tank hose, tank boot, fuel pump, tank fuel filter, line filter, 

>cleaned

>distrubutor, changed injector, & warm up regulator, added redline injector

>cleaners and the car passed CA smog but when it is cold it has NO 

>power...when

>warm it is driveable.  I've not been drivieng the car but many people say 

>that

>driveing it is the only way to shake all the rubber & stuff out of the 

>system.

>If the car does start to run right should I look at changing the fuel

>distributor & accummilator.  The car has 13,000 and had not been run in 

>two

>years and had California re-formulated gas in it.

>

>If Hawkeye every responded to you or if you have his e-mail address, or 

>phone

>numbers, I would like to find out what happened?

>

>Thanks for the help

>

>Dave in Fremont, CA

>

reply:
I am quite close as DeLoreans go! in Berkeley just a few miles north.

Driving it is really the best general way to find all the problems. I have

most of mine worked out except for a mystery won't run at all problem.
Your no power problem could be a simple as timing or an IGN weakness. You

might also have dirty Injectors, which would allow for low rpm but fail to

deliver at higher rpm demands.

Lee

81DMC-12
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 20:33:17 -0700

From: "lseiler(AT)radiance.com" <lseiler(AT)radiance.com>

Subject: Re: DML: Re: Not Again!
At 08:33 PM 7/7/98 -0400, you wrote:

>Lee,

>You will probably have to get stuck one more time before you find the

>problem, here's what to do. There are many items that can shut the fuel

>system down and very few items that effect spark, so lets eliminate the

>fuel pump first. I will assume that you have inspected the fuel pump fuse

>(fuse # 7), if you haven't , go ahead and replace it even if it looks 

>good.

>And inspect the fuel pump itself, be sure connections are solid. Now lets

>set up the test. Go back to your electrical compartment and locate the RPM

>relay (black or green plastic cover with a blue multi pin connector)

>located near the rear section. Hook up a test light between the any ground

>wire and the white/blue wire in the multi pin connector. Run the test lamp

>so that you can see it from the drivers seat, the lamp will be lit 

>whenever

>the fuel pump is running. The next time your engine quits see if the light

>goes on when you crank the starter. If  the light does not light your

>problem is in the fuel pump circuit.

>If the light is on and the car will not start until it cools down you

>probably have a bad impulse coil which is located in the ignition

>distributor.

>Joe/DeLorean Services

>

reply:
The engine now does not start, so I can't run your test. I plan to do a

bit'O gas down the intake to see if the engine will catch while cranking.

It won't do so with the horrid starting spray my wife uses on here Toyota,

After that I thought about  pulling a plug and do a crank-it-watch for a

spark test. T looked at the ballast connections which appear OK.

Lee

81DMC-12
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 20:57:28 -0700

From: "lseiler(AT)radiance.com" <lseiler(AT)radiance.com>

Subject: Re: DML: Fuel level sending unit replacement
At 09:01 PM 7/8/98 EDT, you wrote:

>Has anyone replaced their fuel level sending unit with another type?

>Can anyone tell me the point of three wires on the sending unit.

>

>1.  Ground

>2.  Variable resistence from ground

>3.  ?? (Ground to fuel or fuel pump shutoff for bone dry?)

>

>thanks,

>carl

>

>DOA 5138

>

reply:
Yes About a month ago. I used the Tankzilla Kit complete. Every thing I

needed was provided, the unit went in with no problem and has worked with

out a fault.
as to the wires, check the wiring diagram or call PJ Grady.
Lee

81DMC-12
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 23:36:17 -0500

From: steve r <stephenr(AT)net-2000.net>

Subject: DML: Biloxi Meeting Mistake!!!!
I am sending out this message to inform everyone of a mistake I have

made.  I apologize to James for any inconvenience I may have caused him.
The meeting I mentioned to be taking place in Biloxi will not be held

June 9th.  This is a simple mistake I have made.  Instead the meeting

will take place next month, August 9th.
I invite all local owners and enthusiasts to take a drive out to Biloxi

and have a fun lunch featuring DeLorean talk.  If you need more

information please feel free to call me at (504) 386-3816.  Or you can

just go ahead and email me at StephenR(AT)net-2000.net.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 01:04:30 EDT

From: KayoOng(AT)aol.com

Subject: Re: DML: Fuel Pickup
Jim,
Call Rob at P.J. Grady and get all the necessary parts to do your fuel 

pump

and gas tank componets correctly (800)350-7429.
Kayo Ong

#05508

Lic.  9D  NY
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 00:28:58 -0400

From: "Joe " <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>

Subject: DML: Re: Fuel level sending unit replacement
Carl,

The only reliable replacement for the fuel sender is the "Tankzilla"

available from P.G. Grady. Here is the breakdown of wire color and

function:

RED: LOW FUEL WARNING LAMP

BLACK: GROUND

WHITE: FUEL GAUGE

Joe/DeLorean Services
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 00:50:50 -0400

From: "Joe " <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>

Subject: DML: Re: Happy new owner!
Luke,

1. Yes, it is normal for the idle speed to cycle until the engine reaches

operating temperature.

2. 7 quarts to fill is correct, the result of a good design, more oil 

means

cooler oil. 

Oil weight is based on your climate and driving habits.

3. All cars left the factory with plastic clutch lines.

4. Your uneven tire wear is probably due to mis-alignment. What brand and

model tires do you have.

Joe/DeLorean Services
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 00:39:09 -0400

From: "Joe " <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>

Subject: DML: Re: 26 Nov 1997 message from Hawkeye
Dave,

Don't dish out any money for parts that your not sure are bad, especially

the fuel distributor which goes for around $700. Your problem is probably

related to your fuel enrichment circuit. Check to be sure that your

frequency valve is operating. It is located on your right hand valve cover

and should be buzzing whenever the engine is running. If it is working 

your

problem may be related to an improper CO mixture adjustment.

Joe/DeLorean Services
- ----------
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 01:04:55 -0400

From: "Joe " <dmcjoe(AT)att.net>

Subject: DML: Re: Getting Road Ready
yugoman,

1. Lug nuts should be hand tightened to 60 lb. ft.

2. The trailing arm bolts are located at the point where the trailing arm

is connected to the frame. Inspection is easiest with the car off the

ground and the air deflection plates removed.

Joe/DeLorean Services
- ----------

> From: yugoman <mdrig(AT)email.msn.com>

> To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com

> Subject: DML: Getting Road Ready

> Date: Wednesday, July 08, 1998 8:25 PM

> 

> Hope to get #2423 out of storage and on the road a little next week. I 

> have a couple questions though.

> 1) Will be putting new tires all around, is there a torque spec for the 

> lug nuts so as not to damage rotors?

> 2) I've heard lots about the infamous Trailing Arm Bolts. How and where 

> do I check these, and can they be checked without the car jacked up or on a 

> lift?  Thanks!!!
------------------------------
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 22:11:34 -0700

From: Matt Peak <mpeak(AT)ucla.edu>

Subject: DML: Re: trunk struts
Be careful...I bought louvre struts from NAPA in early 1997 and when I was

home this past weekend I discovered that they were already fading.

Although they are almost triple the cost, I now believe the best solution

is to buy them from a Delorean shop that guarantees them for life.  (Be

sure to ask if they guarantee them because some shops do and some don't).
Matt Peak
>Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 19:21:05 -0400 (EDT)

>From: DJS912(AT)webtv.net (Danny Smith)

>Subject: Re: DML: Trunk Struts

>

>Someone recently posted that he took off his louver struts and brought

>them to a NAPA store. He said that they had exact matches. He also wrote

>that  bringing the originals was the only way to find them. I know this

>to be true. I looked in all those books with the struts in the auto

>stores. Nothing. I ended up coughing up the dollars for a complete set.

>Wonder if there are other strut matches out there.

>Dan     vin # 7065
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:05:16 -1000

From: "Thomas Smithson" <tsassoc(AT)pixi.com>

Subject: DML: Re: Where are online parts suppliers?
KAPAC was bought out by DMC Houston. Go to DeLorean web page and click 

them.

Good luck and Aloha!

Thom Smithson

VIN #3089
- -----Original Message-----

From: CarlIanNew(AT)aol.com <CarlIanNew(AT)aol.com>

To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com <dmcnews(AT)world.std.com>

Date: Wednesday, July 08, 1998 3:20 PM

Subject: DML: Where are online parts suppliers?

>Does anyone have a good list of online parts suppliers?  There used to be

>one called "KAPAC" which I can't find anymore.

>

>thanks,

>carl
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:49:26 +0100

From: DMC_2hot4u(AT)unforgettable.com

Subject: Re: DML: Happy new owner!
L Sandel wrote :

> Well, after reading the list and searching for many months, I am the proud

> owner of #10270, a 5-Speed with 9k miles.  Besides the typical problems,

> (rear defroster switch inoperative, no R-12 from sitting unused for long
remember : it is possible to repair the defroster switch !

           (look for my postings in the backissues)
MfG Wolfgang

VIN#2219

DMC_2hot4u(AT)unforgettable.com
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 08:40:21 -0400

From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM(AT)cesmtp.ccf.org>

Subject: DML: Online parts sources
DMC Houston, now in posession of the former Kapac inventory, has the

best web presence.  It includes much technical information, a chance to

register for a free E-mail newsletter, and a complete online parts store. 

The URL is:

www.usadmc.com
DeLorean One, which carries a full line of DeLorean parts and

accessories, also has a web page.  Its URL is:

www.deloreanone.com
While they don't sell parts for DeLoreans, the DOA features some good

stuff for DeLorean Owners, and they have a good web site.  Their site

features an excellent list of the top parts suppliers and service

providers. Go to:

www.delorean-owners.org
Chances are you already know that there are a few parts, some

accessories, and a bit of memorabilia available at the DML / DMC News

page at:

www.dmcnews.com
If someone is aware of a web page from PJ Grady, DeLorean Motor

Center, Bauerle Automotive, Turbo Manifold, or any other DeLorean

vendors please post the URL for the rest of us.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:22:30 -0500

From: "John P. Chandler II" <chandler(AT)win.bright.net>

Subject: DML: Window repair
I recently sent my late 81 to the shop (for an unrelated problem which did

not involve any work on the door or window) and when it was returned, the

driver's side window, when raised, was somewhat askew so that the top edge

was about 1/2 inch below the fully closed position at one end. Otherwise,

the window acted normally and sounded the same as the other window which 

was

operating correctly.  I returned the car to the shop for a further repair 

to

the window and, when I got it back, the window operated correctly, but

sounded like a coffee grinder when operated.  The gears did not seem to be

meshing correctly. Before spending a king's ransom for a new unit, I

wondered whether there was something out of alignment or some adjustment

which can be made to remedy the problem. Thanks.
John P. Chandler II

Hayward, WI 54843, U.S.A.

Voice: 715-462-9337

Fax: 715-462-3682
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 12:13:04 -0500

From: scottmueller(AT)zebra.net (Scott Mueller)

Subject: Re: DML: Fuel Pickup
Jim Nichols wrote:

> 

> Seldom do I feel that I can improve on  the design of the professional

> engineer, but I'm convinced that the engineer who designed the fuel

> pickup system must have worked for Lucus.  Again my $expensive fuel

> pickup line is lying in a gummy mass on the bottom of the tank

>  I've found a replacement pump which is listed as a Delorean cross (it's

> a Bosch pump for a VW) which has NPT female threads on the bottom and

> will accept a elbow with a quarter or three eighths barb fitting for

> neoprene fuel hose.  I'll run three to four feet of hose, making a

> circle in the tank, and connect to the existing pickup strainer with

> another elbow and a coupling with an inch of larger hose on the coupling

> to fill the space and a stainless clamp.  I may have to cut some slots

> in the strainer neck for the clamp to hold.

> 

> I haven't started the project yet but it seems so simple that maybe I'm

> missing something.  Any comments would be appreciated.

> 

> Jim  #6884

Some pumps are quit sensitive to suction line loses.  I believe that you

have a positive displacement pump, so you may noy have a problem.  Make

sure that you use as large diameter line as possible.  Perhapes steel

tubing would be better, it will last forever and will not kink or

collaspe.
Scott Mueller
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 14:20:43 -0400

From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com>

Subject: Re: DML: Online parts sources
Ive been keeping my eye on http://www.pjgrady.com/ for a few months

now.  I don't know if it is officially open, but there is a site there!

(a bit slow, but very nice!)  
I am guessing because there is no restrictions on access to the site

that it is OK to be there!
I have not yet seen it listed in any search engines.

Mike Substelny wrote:

<SNIP>
> If someone is aware of a web page from PJ Grady, DeLorean Motor

> Center, Bauerle Automotive, Turbo Manifold, or any other DeLorean

> vendors please post the URL for the rest of us.

> 

> - Mike Substelny
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 15:52:03 -0500

From: "Bixby, Web" <wbixby(AT)kclife.com>

Subject: DML: RE: Happy new owner!
Congrats on your new purchase.  I would like to offer you a word of

advice.  I will warn you that not everybody on the Delorean Mailing list

will agree with me but here it goes.
Send your car to one of the more reputable Delorean Service Centers  and

let them give your car the once over.  You will be glad you did. 
  When I got my car it had the same mileage as yours (9k) and after

going through the exercise of the (weak) Ducallier Alternator

replacement I decided to send my car to Stephen Wynne's Delorean Motor

Company in Houston, TX.  There are others(P. J. Grady, Delorean One,

Bauerle Automotive, just to name a few).  Ask around. 
I am also a believer of spending the $60 to join the Delorean Owners

Association (http://www.delorean-owners.org).   You might want to

consider going to the Delorean Owners Association EXPO in Los Angles

over the Labor Day Weekend.
In the words of Dennis Miller, "this is just my opinion, I could be

wrong".
Happy Driving and Welcome to the Family
Web Bixby
> ----------

> From: 	L Sandel

> Reply To: 	dmcnews(AT)world.std.com

> Sent: 	Wednesday, July 8, 1998 12:53 AM

> To: 	dmcnews(AT)world.std.com

> Subject: 	DML: Happy new owner!

> 

> Well, after reading the list and searching for many months, I am the

> proud

> owner of #10270, a 5-Speed with 9k miles.  Besides the typical

> problems,

> (rear defroster switch inoperative, no R-12 from sitting unused for

> long

> periods of time) the car is in great shape.  I do have a few questions

> 

> tho:

 <BIG SNIP>

> Luke Sandel
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 17:09:44 -0500

From: "BRUCE BENSON" <delornut(AT)postoffice.worldnet.att.net>

Subject: Re: DML: Re: Not Again!
> 

> The engine now does not start, so I can't run your test. I plan to do a

> bit'O gas down the intake to see if the engine will catch while cranking.

> It won't do so with the horrid starting spray my wife uses on here

Toyota,

> After that I thought about  pulling a plug and do a crank-it-watch for a

> spark test. T looked at the ballast connections which appear OK.

> 

> 

> Lee

> 81DMC-12
An inductive timing light is a good investment that can be used to test 

the

ignition. Inductive lights have a clamp that wraps around a spark plug 

wire

rather than unplugging the wire on the cheaper variety. If the light 

lights

while cranking you have spark. With the plugs rather un-accesable on the

DeLorean, this is an easier route.
Bruce Benson
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 19:43:41 -0700

From: Mostafa Sayed <phoenixl(AT)ix.netcom.com>

Subject: DML: DeLorean '95 Expansion Released!
Hi,
    I wrote to inform everyone who has downloaded DeLorean '95 that

Expansion 1.0 has been released, which can be downloaded at my home page

at http://members.tripod.com/~Phoenix007/index.html, it was fully tested

and works well. I'm also beginning to work on some new projects such as:
~DeLorean '95 (ver. 2.0)- Will include expansion packs and be smaller in

byte size. May throw in some extras. Planning an August Release.
~DeLorean '98- Once I get my copy of Windows '98, I will begin working

on DeLorean '98, which will take advantage of Win '98's new features.

DeLorean '95 should work fine for now on Windows '98. Release date: N/A
~Expansion 2.0- Already have plans, new start button is in the works for

it, plus some other add-ons. Release date: August 1998
        Later,
            Mostafa

http://members.tripod.com/~Phoenix007/index.html
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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 21:05:58 +0100

From: "Ian T. A. Foster" <ian(AT)netvigator.com>

Subject: DML: Labour Day Weekend?
Question from a Foreigner!
Excuse my ignorance of American History, Culture, etc, but pray-tell 

when is your "Labour Day Weekend"?! I bought my Nov.'81 DeLorean at 

Easter in LA and will be coming back in late-Sept./early-October to 

drive her accross to Baltimore, for shipping back to N.Ireland. Would be 

interested in joining the fun in LA.
Cheers,    IAN FOSTER  N.I.P.P.L.E.

                      (North Irish Professional Person Living in Exile)

                      (Hong Kong)



> consider going to the Delorean Owners Association EXPO in Los Angles

> over the Labor Day Weekend.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 21:30:26 -0700 (PDT)

From: WaKeRz <elam(AT)ecst.csuchico.edu>

Subject: DML: engine upgrades
Hello.

Has anybody ever upgraded the engine in the DMC12.
if you have or you have heard of someone who has altered the engine in any

way, can you email me and describe.  thank you.
( I would like to put the chevy 4.3L V6 in the trunk, or if it can fit a

5.0 302 V8....   hehehe   250 ponies behind a delorean!)



                    Yours anyway you like it, Jon Elam

                        ---------------------------

                          <elam(AT)ecst.csuchico.edu>

                    <http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~elam>
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