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Monday, 10 June 1996 Volume 02 : Number 123
In this issue:
LOCKING GAS CAP
Painted Letters on Bumper
Delorean memorabilia
Unknown Relay in Engine Compartment
No. 8 Fuse is ????
Delo Tires...
Brake lights.
Re: Tires
AC opps possible explanation
Re: Locking gas cap
The Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy: DeLorean Taillights
DeLorean Memorbilia Corner
DeLorean Memorabilia in general
81, 82 and 83 (?) Owners handbooks
Re: Painted Letters on Bumper
Re: Gas Cap and Fuel Tank Pressure
Seats
Re: CONCOURS ISSUES
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA CHAPTER 12 EVENT
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From: Don_Gowler-CFPO01(AT)email.mot.com
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:39:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: LOCKING GAS CAP
Following is an excerpt from an answer to my Concours question:
>"My "D" came down the assembly line just before yours. (VIN #1141) When
>I bought it in 1994, it came with a locking gas cap - same key as the
>ignition. I don't know for sure whether this was factory or dealer
>supplied, but I haven't found anything else on the car that was a
>dealer option, so my guess is that it was factory. Also, ran a quick
>check in the parts manual, to see if there were two different styles,
>but was unable to locate the gas cap."
Thanks for the input Henry. Now if we can find someone with Vin #01150,
or just
a bit higher, with a locking gas cap then we have the answer that it was
probably a factory item versus a dealer add-on.
Anybody else out there that might help solve this puzzle?
Best regards, The Silver Fox
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From: Don_Gowler-CFPO01(AT)email.mot.com
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:51:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Painted Letters on Bumper
This an earlier excerpt from myself to the group:
>"Did any of the factory cars, other than test drive cars, have the
>letters on the rear bumper filled in with silver paint? (I noticed
>this on two separate cars in one of the latest books
>'DeLorean 1977-1993')"
This may be a difficult question to get an answer to and I would
like to keep trying but in the mean time does anyone out there
know of a way of getting paint off of the back bumper in case
this is the way I have to go to make it 'original'?
Best regards, The Silver Fox
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From: David Olson, olsond(AT)dgabby.mfldclin.edu
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 12:49:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Delorean memorabilia
I was looking thru some of the old DeLorean World magazines (ie. 1984
etc.) I some bunches of really great stuff. Some of the items that caught
my
eye were the posters. Are any of these still available? I especially
liked
the one that has the car partially covered with snow. Any one out there
know
of some sources?
David Olson
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From: Chase Clark, stormrider(AT)socketis.net
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 12:49:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Unknown Relay in Engine Compartment
Here's another question, who's answer can not be found in the DMC Parts
Book that I have. Along the left side of the firewall in the engine
compartment is a capacitor that is part if the ignition system. Located
just below and left of it is what appears to be a Bosch relay mounted to a
bracket that joins the capacitor bracket. The item definitely looks
factory
original, but doesn't show up anywhere in the DMC Parts Book. I was
wondering if anyone knows what this relays does? And does anyone have a
cross-reference listing for replacement of it? As appears to be quite
common on these relays, the numbers on top wear away completely after a
few
years.
Thanks as always everyone!!
~ Chase
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From: Chase Clark, stormrider(AT)socketis.net
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 12:49:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: No. 8 Fuse is ????
The computer reproduction of the '82 DeLorean manual has been a truly
helpful item (Thanks James), but I recently discovered that one item is
not
present in it. When I pulled and then reinstalled all 18 fuses a while
back
due to a won't-stop problem (that has since solved itself!!), I ended up
putting everything from No. 8 on one spot out of order. I discovered this
when I blew the fuse that controls the windows and radio, which wasn't too
bad as I had a 10 amp in the slot instead of a 30 amp as required.
Anyway, the manual does not state the amperage for the No. 8 fuse which is
second from the top in the middle column. I think it is 20 amp, but was
wanting to double check to make sure. Anyone know for sure?
Thanks!
~ Chase
BTW, if anyone would like, I can post the protected-ciircuist and amps for
all 18 fuses. Just let me know if you need the info and I'll do it ASAP.
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From: Michael Myjak, myjak(AT)tridis.ist.ucf.edu
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:01:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Delo Tires...
On Wed, 5 Jun 1996 01:08:51 -0400 (EDT) Damien Falato
writes:
> Does any one know of an H or V rated tire that
> is made in both sizes, preferably a brand name?
I run Goodyear Eagle Aquatreads 195/60HR14's front, 225/60HR15's rear.
The 1cm narrower tread translates to a 6mm shorter circumference
(compared to the original 235/60HR15's). So milage isn't affected by
a measurable ammount. (of course, YMMV! :-)
- --
Net(AT)You.Later,
- - Michael D. Myjak
Senior Research Scientist
Institute for Simulation and Training
The University of Central Florida
Voice: 407.658.5043 FAX: 407.658.5059 LAB: 407.658.5078
Off the keyboard, over the bridge, through the router..... Nothin' but
Net!
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From: Frederick Embden, NOTES.FEMBDEN(AT)A50VM1.trg.nynex.COM
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:20:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Brake lights.
There was a fix for the intermittent brake lights posted some time back,,
It
involves putting self tapping screws in all riveted connections on the
circuit
boards. If the problem is in the circuit boards, that should fix the
problem
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From: Delornut(AT)aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 21:00:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Tires
There's been quite a bit of discussion about tire sizes in the news letter
recently. I may be able to help by sharing my experiences with tires. I've
run 245/60/15's and 245/50/15' with no clearance problems. The 235/60/15
is
aprox. 26.1 inches in diameter. (These figures, by the way, can vary a bit
with different types and brands of tires). It is 7.92 inches wide. The
245/60/15 is aprox. 26.57 inches in dia. and 8,39 inches wide. The
245/50/15
is aprox. 24.69 inches in dia. with a width of 8.98 inches. The 50 series
tire works out to the equivalent of a 12% lower final gear ratio so
there's a
slight increase in acceleration. The biggest problem is matching tire
types.
50 series are performance tires and it's difficult to find 14 tires in
the 50
series configuration. I used 245/50/15 Goodyear Gatorbacks on the rear
and Z
rated Riken 195/60/14 directional tread tires in the front. The Gatorbacks
became extremely noisy as they increased their wear to the point they
sounded
like snow tires. I'm currently running Yokohama AVS intermediates in the
proper size and find them the best alternative to date.
DeLornut
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From: Damien Falato, dgf108(AT)psu.edu
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 21:05:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: AC opps possible explanation
Reply to Mike Substelny
If your AC dosn't work now check your fuse to the system. Grab a handfull
of replacement fuses. If it is a burned out fuse replace it and try
running
the AC at all fan speeds. If it tends to blow out at speeds 3 and 4 in
particular than either you did something with the wireing or you have a
bad
interior fan switch. This is assuming that it isn't the compressor
itself.
You might also want to check the interior fan on a few other settings
besides the AC, this will help tell you if it is the interior fan. Keep
in
mind that if you used the three wire quick fix it may be the reason. The
new model with the fuses in it is much safer (I don't know witch one you
did
so excuse me if I'm sounding rude to someone who installed the new one).
You may also have hooked up the wires in the wrong sequence if you used
the
factory quick fix. I really don't know about how that would effect it
though. As I understand it the quick fx was just that and the factory
never
had a chance to come up with somethig better.
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From: mikasa, mikasa(AT)goodnet.com
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 10:30:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Locking gas cap
Jory Bell recently sent me a copy of his 1981 DeLroean Owners Handbook
(thanks!) and it goes into some detail about the locking gas cap and
which key opens it. I would interpret this to mean that it was a factory
installed item. If memory serves, I believe they did away with the
locking gas cap the same time they switched to the "flapless" hood.
James
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From: Solitary Man, awolf(AT)pacific.telebyte.net
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 10:30:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: The Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy: DeLorean Taillights
Actually, the lose concant is almost always on the taillight assembly
circuit board itself...Those little contact rattle themselves lose after
a while...
There are several options, if it really bothers bothers you...
1) DeLorean parts places such as DeLorean one will be able to provide
new, original, or redesigned boards to eliminate this problem.
2) Get an anvil and CAREFULLY whack those poor little concacts back
into place.
3) Go and get some washers and install them to bridge gaps, or use
solder.
Wolfman-cheddar
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From: michael richard pack, mrpack(AT)wam.umd.edu
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 11:20:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: DeLorean Memorbilia Corner
I was looking through a past issue of DeLorean World Volume 8, Number 1.
1991. I came across an ad for this company in London. When I
called this morning to see if they were still in business the number has
been disconnected. What ever happened to them?
The ad had this information;
DELOREAN MEMORABILIA CORNER
The First of its Kind in the World
- -Books
- -Magazines
- -Posters
- --and much much more!
Original Materials from the DeLorean Company
Including RARE Delorean Automobiles
Fax from USA 011-44-518-5088
Tel from USA 011-44-850-310-937
DeLorean Memorabilia Corner
1A Melbourne Rd, Ilford, Essex 1G1
4LF England
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From: mikasa, mikasa(AT)goodnet.com
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 11:50:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: DeLorean Memorabilia in general
Some weeks ago I posted a list of the DeLorean memorabilia that I knew
was out there, hoping that others would contribute to that list. Here
again is an "off the top of my head" list:
Books
Stainless Steel Illusion
The DeLorean Tapes
DeLorean by JZD
Hard Driving
Dream Maker
Grand Delusions
On a Clear Day You Can See GM
Factory items
Parts Manual
Tech Manual
Shop Manual
Owners Handbook
Dealer Listing
Warranty card
Dealer Prep Checklist
DMC-80 Bus brochure
Large brochure (16 page, 2 versions)
Small brochure (3 panel foldout, 2 versions)
DMC necktie
DMC tie tack
Test track drivers license
Non-Company ads
Cutty Sark
Goodyear
Sylvania
American Express Xmas catalog
Magazine articles (feature articles)
Car and Driver (at least five)
Road and Track (at least three)
Motor Trend (at least four)
Time
Newsweek
Inc.
People
Business Week
What do you know of that can be added to this list?
James
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From: mikasa, mikasa(AT)goodnet.com
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 12:40:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 81, 82 and 83 (?) Owners handbooks
Most of you all know that I re-created the 1982 DeLorean Owners handbook
in Adobe Acrobat (those who don't can download the file from the mailing
list web page). I am now doing the same with the 1981 Owners Handbook
(thanks
Jory!). My question for all the owners of the '83 DeLoreans is, what does
your
manual look like? Is is like the '82 manual or are there differences
that would warrant a recreation of it also?
James
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From: Chase Clark, stormrider(AT)socketis.net
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 13:30:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Painted Letters on Bumper
>like to keep trying but in the mean time does anyone out there
>know of a way of getting paint off of the back bumper...
Considering the DeLorean is a U.K. product and they are notorious for
using
natural rubber wherever possible (like in the brake seals), I would not
recommend using any solvents on the bumpers of the DeLorean. Probably, the
best way to go about returning the bumper and letters to all black, would
be to use some flex paint to redo the entire assembly.
Anyone else have experience with this or other
suggestions/advice/warnings?
~ Chase
P.S. My rear "DeLorean" lettering is painted red and I plan to one day
scrape off as much of the paint as possible and install the stainless
steel
letters on the bumper and door sill plates.
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From: Chase Clark, stormrider(AT)socketis.net
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 13:38:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Gas Cap and Fuel Tank Pressure
I have an '81 DeLorean VIN#1529 and it does not have the locking gas cap,
but does have the fuel flap. Not that this means anything, as I believe
someone replaced the gas cap at some point with one that doesn't seal very
tight. My Porsche 924 had a pressurized Bosch K-Jetronic fuel system and
whenever I removed the gas cap that was always a hiss as the tank
depressurized. This doesn't happen on my DeLorean. But I was assuming that
it should if the gas cap fit properly. Am I correct?
~ Chase
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From: Bdofprey(AT)aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 14:50:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Seats
A rather long-legged freind of mine sat in my Delorean today. Problem:
I am
not long-legged and the seat will not return to it's original position,
depite pulling up on the bar. I can't see or feel under the seat to
see\feel
the problem. ...Suggestions?
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From: Raymond Haug, Raymond_Haug(AT)lamg.com
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 15:53:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: CONCOURS ISSUES
>1. Should this car have a locking gas cap? (if 'yes' is it a factory or
> dealer option?)
My car is #3153, and has the locking gas cap, located under the separate
gas
door at the back of the hood.
Ray Haug, DOA#2390
Chapter 12 Coordinator
Southern California Area
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From: Raymond Haug, Raymond_Haug(AT)lamg.com
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 15:55:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA CHAPTER 12 EVENT
Chapter 12 of the DeLorean Owners Association is having another FANTASTIC
Rallye on Saturday, July 13, entitled "A Nethercutt Odyssey Rallye". The
day
begins at 9:45 AM and goes to ?? and includes the following:
1. A Visit to the Nethercutt Collection museum of fine marque
automobiles,
Rolls-Royce, Packard, Bugatti, Hispano-Suiza, Ferrari, and Duesenberg,
plus one
of the world's largest collection of mechanical musical instruments,
including a Mighty Wurlitzer Pipe Organ.
2. Champagne Brunch at the Odyssey Restraurant with Fine Dining, Fabulous
San Fernando Valley views, Fantastic DeLorean Owners, and Great
Socializing.
3. An Exciting Rallye (remember the Getty and 'ghetti Rallye), well this
is
promised to be more scenic, FEWER Questions, and a secret destination in a
Southern California city that used to be called NORDHOFF!
What more can I say! Contact Mimi or Hank Breer via email at:
HBTimber(AT)aol.com
for more information, copy of the Event Flyer, and registration form.
We had 22 cars at our last Rallye, plus 14 cars at the La Canada Parade.
Join us for a Great Day!
Anyone interested in driving to 'Expo 96 in Nashville from the Southern
California area?
Ray Haug, DOA#2390
Chapter 12 Coordinator
Southern California Area
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