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Monday, June 23 1997 Volume 02 : Number 254
In this issue:
DML: RE: Fuel pump operation
DML: Turbos. Vacuum/Boost
Re: DML: Tires
DML: craig radio for sale
DML: re: Brakes
DML: Parts Costs comment
DML: re: Thermal trip for cooling fans
DML: Trip to Austin/Houston
DML: Re: 81, 82 and 83 chronology UPDATE
DML: Radio for 1981
DML: Bowie British Car Day
DML: 1981 DMC For sale
DML: Duci alt
Re: DML:Bad brakes during test drive
DML: Yokohama Tires
DML: Stolen Parts Update
DML: Re: Destroying cars
Re: DML: Brakes
Re: DML: Parking Brakes
Re: DML: New DeLorean Club
Re: DML: Re: Destroying cars
DML: Power Window Motors
DML: Tires, again.
DML: Plates
DML: DMC questions
DML: Books
DML: Door, Hood and Trunk gas struts
DML: 13th Annual Britich Car Day - Dayton OH
DML: Re: Museum DMC-12s
DML: RE: Another sad DeLorean in trouble story.
Re: DML: DMC questions
Re: DML: Door, Hood and Trunk gas struts
DML: Funny thought re: destroying cars
Re: DML: Brakes
DML: Apprentice available in PDX area. :)
DML: Replacement of A/C Pulley Bearings
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 97 08:43:00 PDT
From: Knut S Grimsrud (Knut_S_Grimsrud@ccm.jf.intel.com)
Subject: DML: RE: Fuel pump operation
Brandon Moody asked about the operation of the electric fuel pump.
The fuel pump relay (in the relay compartment mounted near the back
near the door lock control module if memory serves) receives impulses
from the ignition system to indicate whether the motor is running. The
relay energizes the fuel pump when it receives a signal (the frequency
of which is the same as the RPM of the engine and I believe it is the
same signal used to drive the tach) and it cuts power to the pump once
it has not received a signal for a second or two. This is a simple
unit based on a 555 timer chip, a couple transistors, and an
integrated relay. If your fuel pump is not being energized properly, I
would suspect that the fuel pump relay is the culprit (the 555 timer
is a bit fragile, and I had to repair my fuel pump relay some time
back by replacing the chip). I recall that the relay is the same as is
used in the early 80's Volvo and think the price last time I checked
was about $35 from my local mechanic. I don't know the part number off
hand.
Knut Grimsrud
DeLorean Club of Oregon
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 12:00:34 -0400
From: "Marc Levy" (marc.levy@prudential.com)
Subject: DML: Turbos. Vacuum/Boost
I have the Island Twin Turbo setup on my DMC, and have also considered the
effect of the manifold boost on engine items.
I find that I have a defective spark plug (Bosch HR6DS) every few thousand
miles. I can only guess that this is because of the turbo configuration.
After speaking to a Tech at Bosch about the problem, a few new questions
came to mind about the effects of the boost on other vacuum controlled
items. Specifically, the fuel regulator.
If the boost is having some strange effect on the fuel regulator, it is
possible that the mixture will lean out under boost. This is a bad thing
for performance, and the life of the motor (and spark plugs!).
Are there any experts out there on the Fuel regulator? Any part numbers?
Specifications?
I did purchase my car with the turbos installed already, so it is also
possible that the fuel regulator was replaced when the turbos were
installed. Does any one know if this is normal procedure?
Come to think of it, I am assuming that the regulator is vacuum
controlled!
Is it? If not, how is it controlled?
Also on the subject of turbos, I have experimented with removing the air
cleaner (for only a quick ride around the block) to see if there was a air
restriction being caused by the design of the filter box. I found with
the
filter box removed there was a significant improvement in performance and
lag time. Has anyone come up with a replacement air filter set up for
turbos? If not, I may fool around with it.
Marc
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 12:49:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: JSteuben@aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: Tires
For what its worth...When I bought my D, it had Goodyear eagle gt+4s on
it
(205/60r14s on the front and 245/r15s on the rear) They didn't work!
turning
radius, rubbing, ect.. Yokohamas were recommended to me (avs) 195/14 on
front and 235/15 on back. Work great!
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 17:53:18 -0500
From: pool (pool@millcomm.com)
Subject: DML: craig radio for sale
craig radio for sale. Works fine but the display ribbon is broken. I
believe it is replacable part. asking $85.00 obo. pool@millcomm.com
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 97 23:46:00 -0600
From: David Swingle (dswingle@enteract.com)
Subject: DML: re: Brakes
Buster Bunny (buster@fdt.net) Wrote:
>
> During my test drive, I noticed that I really had to
>stomp on the brakes to get any sort of action out of them. That being the
>only DeLorean I've had the opportunity to drive so far, I have no point of
>refrence other than the numerous other cars I've driven. Is it normal to
>have to apply so much pressure to the brake pedal in a DeLorean or might
>there have been some sort of problem with this car.
I recall having the same impression the first time I drove the one I
bought. In fact, I recall checking underneath to see if it really HAD
power brakes. The car had been sitting for a long time (over a year), and
I suspect that the rotors had rusted slightly, along with the hydraulic
parts. I almost immediatly rebuild the brake hydraulic system but didn't
change the pads, and honestly didn't notice a lot of difference. Over
time I've either gotten more used to them or they are getting better.
Dave Swingle
dswingle@enteract.com
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 97 23:46:04 -0600
From: David Swingle (dswingle@enteract.com)
Subject: DML: Parts Costs comment
With the recent comments on the supposedly high cost of Delorean parts
from the Delorean vendors, I wondered if the commenters have priced parts
of more conventional vehicles. For example, someone mentioned an OEM
windshield recently at $625 delivered. My neighbor's insurance company
just reimbursed my local Dodge dealer $743 for my Caravan's windshield
after his mower tossed a rock at it. So-called list price on the glass
from the dealer was over $1200. One of the Delorean places charges $65
for a set of front and rear brake pads, the ones for my Integra were $100
from the dealer. A Delorean (Bosch) fuel filter from a Delorean place is
$24. A Fram fuel filter for the Integra was $25 from Trak Auto, about $45
from the dealer.
One of the stranger things I have seen is an Accel racing fuel injection
fuel pump in the Summit Racing Equipment catalog. It is a dead ringer for
the Bosch/DMC pump, at $237 compared to $179 offered by a DMC vendor.
So far I believe I have "overpaid" an a could of small items, but it's
been well worth it for the "free" advice and the convenience of not
having to run around to a bunch of auto parts stores whose personnel then
proceed to look at me like I'm from the moon (or is it from the future?)
when I say "81 Delorean". The prices for the more major pieces seem to
have been in line or even a good deal. I agree that interchange lists are
a good idea, especially stuck in the middle of nowhere on Saturday
afternoon, but give the DMC places a try if you have the time (usually
only a couple of days) - you will often be surprised, and it wouldn't
hurt to keep them around.
Dave Swingle
dswingle@enteract.com
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 97 23:46:16 -0600
From: David Swingle (dswingle@enteract.com)
Subject: DML: re: Thermal trip for cooling fans
>Phillip said (about his cooling fans):
>
>> They run for 1 minute and shut off,then they try to come
>> on several times, but they never run for more than 2
>> seconds.
>
>Dave Swingle responded:
>
>> Based on your description, this sounds a lot to me like
>> the thermal trip instead of the temperature sensor.
>
And then Mike Substelny commented:
>Dave, I have never seen the original thermal trip circuit
>brealers in action. Would they really stop the fans after just
>two seconds? I am surprised that cars would ever leave the
>factory with such a terrible system built in!
>
>- - Mike Substelny
I don't know for sure from first hand experience, I was just theorizing.
I had suspected that there may be something wrong with one of both of the
fans that is causing the breaker to heat up, or the breaker itself is
failing. Anyway, Phillip wrote back again directly and noted that jumping
the breaker AND the thermal switch had no effect. Still some
head-scratching going on, I'm afraid.
Interesting note - on mine someone has changed the fans to something
lifted from a Volkswagen (VW# AU-431-959-455B to be exact). The fit in
the round part of the fan frame just fine, but they had to use spacers on
the mounting ears to get the depth correct. I'm not sure I'd
wholeheartedly recommend them, the are not an exact fit and they had to
hack up the wiring a little as well. Both fans are identical and look
like they have been on the car for a very long time. I find it strange
that both fans had failed, especially since that seems to be a part of
the car that I have yet to see anyone on the list complaining about.
Dave Swingle
dswingle@enteract.com
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 97 12:28:27 -0000
From: James Espey (espey@dmcnews.com)
Subject: DML: Trip to Austin/Houston
I will be visiting some relatives of my girlfriend later this week and
weekend in Austin and Houston. Any DML'ers in the area want to get
together for a beverage and conversation?
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com/
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 01:56:03 -0700
From: Arron Oberman (obera000@unbc.edu)
Subject: DML: Re: 81, 82 and 83 chronology UPDATE
Yo'
I see all these lovely D's from the U.S. of A., but where are all the
Canadian owners??? I mean come on, we've got our own series of car and
special VIN's just for us Canucks .... 'ALLO! Are you out there??
For my own purposes, are there any owners in the Greater Vancouver
Regional District that could e-mail me back?? If at all possible it
would be nice to get together, shoot the sh.... .... stainless,
and talk about a Delorean support network up her in the Great White
North, eh! I know I've seen atleast two D's in Vancouver and I'm hoping
you guys are lurking out there somewhere ...
Send electrons my way,
ADO
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 03:09:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: michael richard pack (mrpack@wam.umd.edu)
Subject: DML: Radio for 1981
I need the radio knobs for my '81 Are they available? My radio look like
the factory spec, except that mine is missing the DMC on the upper left
side. Craig radio. Vin # 3713 Sept 81.
Sincerely Yours
Michael Pack
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 03:16:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: michael richard pack (mrpack@wam.umd.edu)
Subject: DML: Bowie British Car Day
How many of you are planning to attend with or without your Delorean?
Last year we had 10, can we beat this number? I sopke with Rob Grady on
6/17/97, and he mentioned that he will come down for the show. Possibly
with the British Racing Green car.
Let me know.
MichaeL Pack
Home 410-551-3107
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 03:25:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: michael richard pack (mrpack@wam.umd.edu)
Subject: DML: 1981 DMC For sale
Grey Leather dash is perfect.
Auto Trans gov
computer new.
Body is excellent no dents or scraches. Glass is orig. car comes with
complete set of DeLorean worlds from first issue to current, and other
rare finds. Engine just tuned. new Goodyear Rear tires, and set of
headliners.
Make me reasonable offer. Delivery possible
Car is located in North of Annapolis Maryland.
Sincerely Yours
Michael Pack
410-551-3107
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 03:13:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: michael richard pack (mrpack@wam.umd.edu)
Subject: DML: Duci alt
Mine was replaced with the recommended alt, but I still have the duci.
WHen I drove the car with the Duci I luckily did not have any problems. I
did have the engine stall on car #2. When I tried to restart t the
battery was dead. This car has a factory Motorola alt. Any Ideas as to
what happended?
Thank
Michael Pack
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:32:38 -0400
From: Mike Substelny (SUBSTEM@cesmtp.ccf.org)
Subject: Re: DML:Bad brakes during test drive
Buster said:
> During my test drive, I noticed that I really had to stomp
> on the brakes to get any sort of action out of them . . .Is
> it normal to have to apply so much pressure to the brake
> pedal in a DeLorean . . .?
The power-assist brakes on a DeLorean should have a light
pedal action. I guarantee that the brakes on the car you
drove needed some work.
If there were no other symptoms, I would guess that the
master cylinder was shot (that's strictly a guess, it might be
the booster or something else). Replacement master
cylinders are reasonably inexpensive.
Before buying any DeLorean with suspicious brake problems
you should make sure that the previous owner used the
proper brake fluid. The differences between standard fluid
(DOT 3) and the correct fluid for the DeLorean was discussed
recently on the DML, so you can find details in the back
issues. If the wrong brake fluid has been used there may be
other damage in the brake system.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 03:06:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: michael richard pack (mrpack@wam.umd.edu)
Subject: DML: Yokohama Tires
I have take the advice of DMC Huston and thus installed the Yokohama AVS
intermediate tires front and rear. NTW tire centre $867.87 installed with
extended warrenty. The only bad aspect of the tire is that it is not all
season, but I do not plan to drive it in the winter time here in
Washington D.C. They do improve the ride, I have the Good year NCT's for
sale, and the tires grab the road significantly around corners.
Does anyone know if the John DeLorean interview that was shown in Belfast
during Euroexpo '97 will be sold through the DOA?
Sincerely yours
Michael Pack
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Date: 6/5/97 4:11 AM
From: Michael McDonough (dmcflyer@msn.com)
Subject: DML: Stolen Parts Update
Re: my message dated 5/16/97 concerning stolen DeLorean parts and
memorabilia,
all but one piece has been recovered. Still missing is the rare original
dealer banner. If you have any knowledge of its whereabouts, please
contact
me at once. Thanks for your help. Also, watch this space - in about one
month Specialty Automotive should finally be online with parts and
helpful
information. Its been a long, trying 16 months, but I am back in
business at
last. Thanks for your support.
Darryl Tinnerstet
Specialty Automotive
P.O. Box 11323
Olympia, WA 98508
PH: 360-786-0243
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 19:33:02 -0500
From: "Back to the Future...The Fan Club" (time@Traveller.COM)
Subject: DML: Re: Destroying cars
>From: Sean Mullally
>After reading Marc Levy's post regarding the VINs of the Deloreans
>used in BTTF, I was wondering how many of these did Universal Studios
>buy up to use in their BTTF movies and ride? Also, does anyone know if
>the Delorean smashed by the train in BTTF III was a mockup? I hope so.
Universal created a total of seven (7) time machine-converted DeLoreans
for
use in the three "Back to the Future" films. This number includes a
stripped-down DeLorean gimble used for interior shots in all three films,
but not the mock-up DeLorean "shell" for the DeLorean's final scene on the
railroad tracks in BTTF3. At least 3 of the original 7 cars can be seen
daily at the two Universal Studios themeparks in Hollywood, CA and
Orlando,
FL. In 1993, Universal commissioned the creation of four (4) additional
DeLorean time machines, which at the time seemed to signal that a BTTF4
was
on the way, but we found out later that they were created to promote the
themepark Rides around the country and to be displayed in various Planet
Hollywood restaurants around the world. So not counting the fleet of 48
DeLoreans created for the two BTTF Rides, which aren't real cars, there
was
a total of 12 DeLoreans converted by Universal into time machines.
>From: JSteuben@aol.com
>By-the way, I understand that it took 3 DeLoreans to create the D car in
>Back To The Future. =20
This is correct for the first BTTF film. Universal purchased three (3)
DeLoreans for the first film, and two of those three are at Universal
Studios Hollywood, which you can see each day. The gimble car (mentioned
above) can be seen in the "Back to the Future Movie Magic Show"
attraction,
and the other one is driven daily by "Doc Brown" (actor Andy Hagan) around
the park. The third car, actually referred to by the filmmakers as the
"A"
car, is said to reside in Steven Spielberg's own private museum, where
it's
been since 1985. Another one of the original 7 cars resides at USH on the
backlot -- the one with the wide white-walled tires from BTTF3 -- just
collecting dust and damage from the outdoor elements (just like the time
traveling train from BTTF3 down at the Orlando park).
Anyone who lives near either Universal park could actually get the VINs
from
the cars there if they can get close enough (talk to a park attendant, and
show them your DMC membership card -- they'll surely let you get a closer
look just for a VIN #). I've emailed Andy Hagan ("Doc Brown") to send me
the VIN # of the car he drives, but I haven't heard back from him yet.
And
I was at the Orlando park back in January, and tried to get that VIN
myself.
However, the car they have on display there advertised as an "actual movie
car from BTTF1, II, & III" was NOT one of the original 7 cars, but rather
one of the 4 cars later built in 1993 (extremely obvious from the bogus
"Mr.
Fusion" alone). The VIN in that car is completely covered up by some of
the
time circuit coils in the dashboard, and I couldn't find an attendant
nearby
to open it for me for a closer look inside. So anyone in the Hollywood &
Orlando areas should be able to supply that information for the VIN
history,
but I doubt we'll ever know what the VIN # is to the car hidden in
Spielberg's museum. (Just hope he remembered to remove the gasoline in
the
tank, as it'll likely be there at least 70 years too!)
________________________________________________________________________
Stephen M. Clark, President
Back to the Future=99...The Fan Club
P.O. Box 880
Athens, AL 35612-0880 U.S.A.
Voice/Fax: (205) 230-6288
E-mail: time@traveller.com
Website: http://www.bttf.com/
________________________________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:49:49 +0000
From: James Nichols (jhnichols@earthlink.net)
Subject: Re: DML: Brakes
When I bought my D a few years ago the brakes were poor and you needed a
lot of pedal pressure to get much braking. A few stops on a gravel road
resulted in the front wheels locking up (the rear brakes were not
working).
Rebuilding the master cylinder fixed the problem and now the brakes are
excellent.
Jim #6884
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:48:00 +0000
From: James Nichols (jhnichols@earthlink.net)
Subject: Re: DML: Parking Brakes
Michael M. Stark wrote:
(Need the Girling part # for the parking brake assemblies (L & R). Mine
are almost rusted too bad to rebuild. I just got a ridiculous price
from DMC-1 and figured I could do better in a Volvo junkyard. Any other
production vehicles that these assemblies appeared on would also be
appreciated.)
My cross reference list lists the rear brakes as Jaguar XJ6, another
list references the Jaguar XKE. I haven't had any problems with my rear
brakes yet, so don't know which one may work. You might want to check
the casting numbers on your rear calipers to see if they match brefore
you buy the replacement parts.
The front calipers and pads are 1977 Mercury Capri, the casting numbers
a the same.
Good luck.
Jim #XXXXXXX6884
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 97 08:28:53 -0000
From: James Espey (espey@dmcnews.com)
Subject: Re: DML: New DeLorean Club
Many people have asked about the new club, DeLorean Motor Club. I have
posted some information on the club in PDF format at:
ftp://dmcnews.com/dmc.pdf
Like Mike, I had the opportunity to speak at length with Robin McNeill
(one of the founders of this club, and a fellow former DOA board member)
about the new group and it sounds like a great new organization. I have
joined the new club, too, btw.
James Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com/
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:56:06 -0700
From: e/evan/altendorf (altender@ENGR.ORST.EDU)
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Destroying cars
My girlfriend's father claims he bought the D from BTTF II. It cost
$5K and he spent several years trying to get it to run again before
finally having to sell it due to financial constraints. I've seen
photos of the car; it was definitely a D, although I can't verify it
was the one from BTTF. I don't know the VIN, but I could ask if he
remembers it.
Anyone else know anything about this story?
- -e.
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 17:53:15 -0500
From: "Michael M. Stark" (maynard@wwa.com)
Subject: DML: Power Window Motors
Does anyone know of a replacement for the power window motors?
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:18:42 -0600
From: Michael Fischer (Michael.Fischer@pipe.nova.ca)
Subject: DML: Tires, again.
Okay, one other question regarding tires.
As we know, the big 235 tires for the rear are not exactly a common
size, I've been recommended by some tireshops to go with a 225 on
the rear. While this give me more choice of tires, it drops a
centimeter per tire in width.
Is this a bad thing? Any experiences with it?
- --
+-----------------+------------------------------+--------------------+
|_________________| Michael.Fischer@pipe.nova.ca |____________________|
|"This is almost as much fun as catching bowling balls with my teeth."|
+-----------------+------------------------------+--------------------+
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 13:44:51 -0500 (CDT)
From: jameel a ahed
Subject: DML: Plates
My PLATE READS GIGAWAT
:-)
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 17:49:10 -0400
From: James Senft (jpsenft@erols.com)
Subject: DML: DMC questions
First, thanks for the response I received on my DMC A/C cycling
question. Resolution turned out to be freon 1.25 lbs low, and pressure
cycle switch bad. Total cost $115.
Now new unrelated questions:
1. Windshield washer container leaking. How difficult to remove?
Generic replacements available? If it turns out to be washer motor
gasket, any replacements known?
2. What is recommended cleaning/care/dressing for the rear louvres and
engine cover?
3. Ignore my previous post about Bosch Oil filter 72150. That was the
last of my stash, and Bosch has completely changed the numbering
scheme. Have not yet figured out new Bosch replacement.
Jim in Maryland
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 21:44:09 -0400
From: DMC12 (DMC12@prodigy.net)
Subject: DML: Books
I am looking for books about DeLorean
I have read "DeLorean" and am dying to read some of the other
books written about DeLorean
If you have any for sale PLEASE E-mail me
condition not a concern
Doug Venner
'83 #15880
78 MG Midget
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:24:02 -0500
From: JOHN NELSON (jrnelson@boreal.org)
Subject: DML: Door, Hood and Trunk gas struts
After storing my '82 Delorean for 10 years, I find all my assist struts
are shot.
I do not want original unless they are new, not 15 years old, and even
then, I would prefer current technology.
What will cross with current model units, and where would they be
available. Part numbers would be appreciated.
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 97 19:57:53 -0000
From: Skip (mgbskip@aol.com)
Subject: DML: 13th Annual British Car Day - Dayton OH
Perhaps of interest to the DML'er in Ohio...
When: August 2, 1997
13th Annual British Car Day, August 2, 1997
Eastwood MetroPark, Dayton, OH 9 AM-4 PM rain or shine.
$8 registration in advance, $10 day of show, spectators
free, food and beverages available, dash plaques, door
prizes, awards in 16 marquees(popular vote show),
vendors and swap meet, show T-shirts for sale.
Contact: Skip Peterson at "MGBskip@aol.com"
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 22:02:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: shapiro3@ix.netcom.com
Subject: DML: Re: Museum DMC-12s
I live in Tallahassee, FL, and we have a local car museum, the Tallahassee
Antique Car Museum. In it is a 1983 DMC-12 with about 2500 miles on it. I
do
not know the VIN number, but I can easily find out if it helps anyone. I
am
friends with the guy who runs the place, so every time I visit, he lets
me sit
in and inspect the car...I know more about it than he does. It is in
running
condition, and the fuel pump was replaced a few months ago. The museum is
quite
nice (it even has a Tucker) and is owned by a local guy, Devoe Moore.
Supposedly,
the owner of the museum bought this D for a "VERY GOOD PRICE" off of a
gambler
who was hard on his luck and had to liquidate most of his assets really
fast.
Unfortunately, I am only 17, so I cannot yet fulfill my lifelong dream of
owning a D, so this is the closest I have to my own :(
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Date: 6/16/97 4:39 PM
From: Barnes@world.std.com, Dave x1547@world.std.com (ONEB)
Subject: DML: RE: Another sad DeLorean in trouble story.
PLANT1B.PCNET.net.com!ke6507@kaiser
To: dmcnews@world.std.com, dmcnews@world.std.com
Sender: dmcnews-approval@world.std.com
Precedence: list
Reply-To: dmcnews@world.std.com
If you want to stop by, I should be at the Palo Alto Concours D'Elegance
this Sunday (6/22) showing/selling my D.
Because I am planning to be at the show next week, I decided to torque
the doors (since they were starting to sag after I replaced the struts).
I called Don, at DMC in Garden Grove, because the Tech Manual doesn't
have any torque settings. After describing the condition of the doors,
Don recommended I tighten the doors two notches. He also went through all
the precautions. After tightening the drivers side door, I thought Don
was over zealous about all his precautions. As my wife was applying the
torque on the passengers door and my curious neighbors stood around, the
ratchet applying the counter torque shattered sending the retaining
bracket into the top of the car. I was fortunate the back window was
spared. So, if I am able to get a shop to work the dent out of the top of
the car by this weekend, stop by.
I have seen a lot of e-mail describing encounters with other DeLorean
shops. I would like to say that I have dealt with DMC in Garden Grove for
the past three years and I recommend them to most D owners I meet.
Anytime I have a technical question, Don is willing to take the time and
walk me through the problem.
If anyone in the San Jose area knows a shop that can straighten stainless
steel, let me know at barnesd@kaisere.com.
Dave B
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 02:33:48 -0700
From: "Marvin S. Sterling" (marv930@ix.netcom.com)
Subject: Re: DML: DMC questions
James Senft wrote:
>snip
>
> 2. What is recommended cleaning/care/dressing for the rear louvres and
> engine cover?
>
I have used Rain Dance's BRIGHT & BLACK ... works great on all of the
black surfaces.
Best regards,
Marv Sterling
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 21:10:40 -0700
From: Henry Breer (Hbreer@ix.netcom.com)
Subject: Re: DML: Door, Hood and Trunk gas struts
JOHN NELSON wrote:
>
> After storing my '82 Delorean for 10 years, I find all my assist struts
> are shot.
> I do not want original unless they are new, not 15 years old, and even
> then, I would prefer current technology.
> What will cross with current model units, and where would they be
> available. Part numbers would be appreciated.
John,
DeLorean One (http://www.deloreanone.com) sells new struts, manufactured
to original specifications, from the original manufacturer. The other
suppliers, PJ Grady, DeLorean Motor Company, and DeLorean Motor Center
all sell struts also. See their ads in DeLorean World Magazine.
Expect to pay in the $250 to $300 range for a set of 6.
Hank Breer
VIN 1141
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 09:55:58 -0400
From: Mike Substelny (SUBSTEM@cesmtp.ccf.org)
Subject: DML: Funny thought re: destroying cars
Sean Mullay said:
> Also, does anyone know if the Delorean smashed by the
> train in BTTF III was a mockup?
Look closely and you will see lots of familiar DeLorean parts
come flying out of the wreck. Because of the way it shatters
into a million pieces I think that this DeLorean was specially
modified to burst in a dramatic fashion.
> Does it seem wrong to anyone for someone to purchase
> one of these cars simply to destroy it?
There was a time when Hollywood put animals, especially
horses, through all sorts of cruel and dangerous stunts.
Activist groups cried foul, and now animal cruelty on a movie
set is illegal.
Are you suggesting that it is time to do the same thing for
cars? Just think, someday movies could end with the tag
line: "No automobiles were injured during the production of
this motion picture." :-)
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 18:56:30 -0500
From: Bill Marcussen (billmarcussen@sprintmail.com)
Subject: Re: DML: Brakes
My experience with one example (ours) suggests that there was a definite
problem with the brakes on the D you test drove. Our brakes work well
- -- plenty of stopping power with fairly low pedal pressure. A real pity
that the electrical system isn't as well competent and reliable.
However, as the old adage goes, Brits drink warm beer because their
refrigerators are made by Lucas!
Bill Marcussen
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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 12:39:16 -0700
From: e/evan/altendorf (altender@ENGR.ORST.EDU)
Subject: DML: Apprentice available in PDX area. :)
Hi, all. Sorry to bother everyone again, but I have yet another
query...
I'd like to offer a few days of my time to a DMC owner in the
Portland/Beaverton Oregon area to help with maintenence on his/her
DMC, in return for the experience of watching someone work on it and
perhaps a bit of instruction on the specifics of the car.
I admit I have little knowledge of cars and even less experience, but
I have decent general mechanical and technical skills, a fair amount
of experience repairing bicycles and household stuff, and I am
cautious and reliable.
I'm doubting there's any DMC owners close enough to me (Beaverton) to
make this possible (I don't own a car; bicycle and bus are my modes of
transportation), but if by any chance there are, please mail me.
Thank you,
- -eric
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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 16:29:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: GullWinged@aol.com
Subject: DML: Replacement of A/C Pulley Bearings
I know someone posted that they recently had replaced their A/C belt and
pulley bearings, but I am unable to find that post, so this is for the
entire list. What is the process of removing and replacing the pulley
bearings themselves for the A/C belt? Do the old ones just punch out and
the new ones press in fairly easily, or are special tools and techniques
required?
I have decided that one summer without air conditioning is enough, and I
am planning or replacing my belt and pulley bearings later this week.
Just looking for some insight before I tackle the job. TIA!!
Chase
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