Wednesday, June 3 1998 Volume 03 : Number 371
In this issue:
DML: Parking brake cover...
DML: cruise-control and paint
Re: DML: Re: tires
DML: Backfire
DML: RE: cruise-control and paint
DML: Cincinnati Car Show Security
Re: DML: Starting problem diagnosed as ballast resistor wire
Re: DML: RE: no power
Re: DML: BTTF DELOREANS FOR CHILDREN
DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
DML: Luggage Rack and A/C Illumination Fix
Re: DML: cruise-control and paint
DML: Door Guides Installed!
Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
Re: DML: cruise-control and paint
DML: Re: Road Trip Repair Kit
Re: DML: RE: no power
DML: A happy ending to my automatic transmission saga...
DML: RE: Lowering Cars
DML: A/C water Leak
DML: Re: Tempretaure Gauge dosen't work
DML: N2O
Re: DML: Cincinnati Car Show Security
Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
Re: DML: The Engine
DML: DMC Posters
Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
DML: Holes for Luggage Rack w/ Pictures
DML: Dash Lamps
DML: DeLorean Article
Re: DML: Cincinnati Car Show Security
Re: DML: A happy ending to my automatic transmission saga...
Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
RE: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
RE: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
Re: DML: The Engine
Re: DML: Cincinnati Car Show Security
Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
DML: DMC-80 brochure now online
Re: Binnacle Removal (was: DML: Dash Lamps)
Re: DML: Cincinnati Car Show Security
DML: DMC
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Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 23:45:10 EDT
From: NJP548(AT)aol.com
Subject: DML: Parking brake cover...
Hey List,
I am happy to say that I passed my road test Saturday and I am
finally
going to put my De Lorean on the road soon. Also I wanted to fix my
parking
brake but I can't get the carpet cover off of the lever, if anyone knows
how
to do it I'll appreciate the help. I am going to Acron, Ohio next
weekend for
a wedding. I was hopping the wedding was the weekend after that so I
could go
to Cincinnati and see all the other De Loreans there but I guess there
will be
other times for me to do that so I can bring my own car!!! Thanks for any
help I could get for the parking brake cover.
later,
Nick
VIN#1852
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 03:37:03
From: "Ben Williams" <will0847(AT)tc.umn.edu>
Subject: DML: cruise-control and paint
First of all, does anyone's Delorean have cruise control? Secondly, Some
people are selling painted Deloreans. I was wondering if it is possible
to
remove the paint to expose the stainless steel in its original appearance.
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 01:34:13 EDT
From: KayoOng(AT)aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: Re: tires
In a message dated 5/30/98 7:16:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
delornut(AT)postoffice.worldnet.att.net writes:
<< Which Perelli series is available in the proper size. Are they
performance
tires or just everyday steet tires?
Bruce Benson
>>
They are the Pirelli P600's.
Kayo Ong
#05508
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 00:35:55 -0700
From: cliff wallace <wlsms(AT)telepath.com>
Subject: DML: Backfire
Hello all. I've run into one of those intermittent problems with my "D"
since owning it for 14 months.
A few weeks ago I was driving down I-35 in Norman, Oklahoma at a steady
65mph when my engine died for one second, then POW! a backfire. Right
after the backfire occurred, the car resumed speed and ran just fine
thereafter. I've driven it four times at the same speed since then, but
I cannot duplicate the backfire--it runs normal now. Is there a warning
sign I need to look out for? So, has anybody experienced this
phenomenon? The only thing I can figure is the ignition may have
briefly shut off then back on causing fuel to enter the exhaust and
BANG! Or is my assumption way off?
Any comments would be appreciated. Thank you
Cliff #3773
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 09:16:45 -0500
From: Gowler Don-CFPO01 <Don_Gowler-CFPO01(AT)email.mot.com>
Subject: DML: RE: cruise-control and paint
I have, and know of several others that have cruise controls on their
D's. This was not a factory or dealer option.
The Silver Fox
>----------
>From: Ben Williams
>Reply To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com
>Sent: Monday, June 1, 1998 3:37 AM
>To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com
>Subject: DML: cruise-control and paint
>
>First of all, does anyone's Delorean have cruise control? Secondly, Some
>people are selling painted Deloreans. I was wondering if it is possible
>to
>remove the paint to expose the stainless steel in its original appearance.
>
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:07:01 -0500
From: Gowler Don-CFPO01 <Don_Gowler-CFPO01(AT)email.mot.com>
Subject: DML: Cincinnati Car Show Security
Ken, has there been any discussion on car security? Any special parking
area/areas for the nights? Knowing that there are a bunch of crazy's
out there I would hate to see us all get hit by some jerk who has
nothing better to do but 'make his mark'.
Regards, The Silver Fox
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 09:15:27 -0700
From: Moore <psmdiver(AT)pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: DML: Starting problem diagnosed as ballast resistor wire
failure
Sender: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com
Precedence: list
Reply-To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com
I had the same problem, except only when it rained or the engine got
wet. We found the ignition coil was grounding to the small steel rod on
the fire wall. re-routed it and the problerm went away. Ya, real
imbarassing in the commute traffic.
Bill Moore vin6691
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 09:09:17 -0700
From: Moore <psmdiver(AT)pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: DML: RE: no power
thanks for the resposnes. Yes, my 12 is automatic. However, the shift
governor appears to be working correctly. That is all gears are
present. The problem only exists when the engine is cold. If the
engine is allowed to warmup to operating temps. before heading down the
road, the car will perform as it is suppose too. If the emgine is
started and you backout of the garage and try to take-off (so to speak)
down the street the performance is very sluggish. Ya have to kind of
pump the throttle peddle to get moving.
Anyway thanks for the response, every little suggestion helps.
Bill Moore vin6691
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 10:38:06 EDT
From: Ddl52(AT)aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: BTTF DELOREANS FOR CHILDREN
Hello,
I've noticed several recent posts regarding the " Power Wheels"
type,
Back-To-The-Future, ride-on toys for children. These vehicles came in the
pedal-type car or electric version. I believe the cars were manufactured
around 1986. If anyone is interested, I have a couple of the electric
(unassembled, in the box) cars, that I would be willing to sell.. Due to
the
size and lack of packing materials, they would need to be picked-up in
Fort
Wayne, Indiana. For any further information or descriptions, just E-Mail
me at
DDL52(AT)aol.com
Dennis
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 11:23:59 -0500
From: Gowler Don-CFPO01 <Don_Gowler-CFPO01(AT)email.mot.com>
Subject: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
I notice that the manual suggest changing the automatic transmission
fluid while it is hot - why is that?
Also, I notice that the fluid level on the dip stick is over the 'Hot'
mark when it is cold - one would assume too much fluid. Yet
it is below the 'Cold' mark when it is hot - one would assume
not enough fluid. Any insights on this phenomena?
Also, I notice the manual suggests DEXRON II (spelling???)
but all I can find is III. I'm told you can add III to II but not the
reverse. Any comments on this?
Regards, The Silver Fox
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 15:29:01 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM(AT)cesmtp.ccf.org>
Subject: DML: Luggage Rack and A/C Illumination Fix
Two more DeLorean improvements *anyone* can do:
While installing my door guides yesterday, I was reminded of installing my
luggage rack two years ago. The luggage rack also requires you to drill
holes in your stainless. Many DeLorean owners are reluctant to do this,
and others have put off getting a luggage rack for various reasons.
IMO the luggage rack is a MUST HAVE for all DeLorean owners. It is so
useful for carrying a flat tire that I wouldn't pull out of my driveway
without having my luggage rack stowed in my trunk.
Luggage rack installation is very easy, and it does not affect the
appearance of the car at all. Unless you know what to look for you
cannot tell a DeLorean that is equipped to carry a rack from one that is
not.
Yesterday I also performed the air conditioner panel illumination
improvement which has been mentioned repeatedly in the DML. The time
to do this is just a few minutes and cost for the parts is pennies.
For new DML subscribers, the problem is that the light in the A/C panel of
the center consol comes on whenever you turn the key, even while the
headlights are off. This increases the heat on all those delicate
components (incl the radio & ventilation selector mechanism) and puts a
needless load on the electrical system (if you have a Ducey alternator
like me, you need every milliamp you can get!). It is also aesthetically
disturbing, since the A/C light is much brighter than the instrument pod
light.
The solution I read in the DML back issues is to open the relay
compartment and remove the third module from the left in the second row
back. This module is a relay, and it should come out with a firm upward
pull. Replace it with one 5 ohm or 10 ohm resistor, depending on the
brightness you want (I used 10 ohms). To make a good connection you
should put a 1/4" spade connector on each lead of the resistor (Radio
Shack has the resistors and connectors). As you look down on the
relay socket, the resistor runs between the slots in the 3 o'clock
position
and the 6 o'clock position. Keep the relay as a spare (despite the
warnings it can interchange with a few of the others).
Believe it or not this simple fix works great.
If anyone is interested in seeing pictures and descriptions of the luggage
rack or A/C panel fix I will submit them to James for possible inclusion
in
a future 'zine.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 15:36:22 EDT
From: KayoOng(AT)aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: cruise-control and paint
You can remove the paint.
You may not like what you are going to see.
Like they said: "a little paint hides all sins".
What is hidden beneath the paint?
There maybe panel damage.
This is the reason for the paint job.
Who wants to hide one of the character and attributes of this great car?
When you say Delorean, two things comes to mind:
GULL WING DOORS & STAINLESS STEEL BODY!
Kayo Ong
#05508
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 16:52:05 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM(AT)cesmtp.ccf.org>
Subject: DML: Door Guides Installed!
Yesterday I finally installed my door guides. They had been sitting in my
garage for a year and a half since I acquired them from the warehouse
in Columbus. I don't know why I procrastinated . . . the whole job took
just twenty minutes including time to search my basement for sharp drill
bits. The DeLorean's stainless body can dull an ordinary K-Mart drill bit
pretty quickly!
Already it looks like the guides will make a BIG difference to my car. I
used to have trouble closing my doors when my DeLorean was parked
on any type of incline. If I did get them closed, sometimes they would be
difficult to open afterwards. It is very embarrasing when you get
trapped in your DeLorean and your date has to rescue you.
A lot of DeLorean owners are unaware of the door guides' existence.
Either your car came with them from the factory, or they were installed
later, or you have just been suffering with doors that sometime close
wrong and you thought it was your fault.
A warning to DML readers in the "suffering" group: Seventeen years
worth of crooked closings did some unknown amount of damage to my
door latch mechanisms. I may need to replace them in the future.
I took pictures of the procedure along with the visible damage that my
latches suffered from not having guides. If anyone is interested I will
submit the pictures and a narrative to James for possible inclusion in the
next DMC News 'zine.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 98 17:23:11 PDT
From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody(AT)kih.net>
Subject: Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
> I notice that the manual suggest changing the automatic transmission
> fluid while it is hot - why is that?
>
> Also, I notice that the fluid level on the dip stick is over the 'Hot'
> mark when it is cold - one would assume too much fluid. Yet
> it is below the 'Cold' mark when it is hot - one would assume
> not enough fluid. Any insights on this phenomena?
Changing the fluid when HOT is just like engine oil. It
flows much better and you are more likely to get all of
it to drain out. As for the correct level, make sure you
are checking the fluid correctly. The fluid should be warm,
in park, and engine running. Also, on level ground. Fluid
somewhere between the full and low mark is fine.
- -Brandon
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 18:42:02 EDT
From: JSteuben(AT)aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: cruise-control and paint
Let me add my 2 cents to Kayo's.
I understand that S.S. is very hard to paint sucessfully, and that a
special
SELF ETCHING primer must be used in order for the paint to adhere to the
S.S..
the result is that when one removes the paint, one finds that the brushed
surface of the S.S. has been ruined. And if one wants to return it to its
original glory, one has to re-texture the entire car. UUUGGGH! Buy 'um'
painted if you like 'um' that way. But if you want your 'D' to be
original...buy one that is. Good Hunting, Joe
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 19:37:22 -0400
From: Sean Mullally <mullally(AT)pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: DML: Re: Road Trip Repair Kit
Good idea James! I would add the following:
a gas can,
jumper cables
copy of the "recommend repair facilities" document
visa card ;)
- -Sean Mullally
#3868
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:28:06 -0700
From: "Dave Price" <davep(AT)humanmachine.com>
Subject: Re: DML: RE: no power
>thanks for the resposnes. Yes, my 12 is automatic. However, the shift
>governor appears to be working correctly. That is all gears are
>present. The problem only exists when the engine is cold. If the
>engine is allowed to warmup to operating temps. before heading down the
>road, the car will perform as it is suppose too. If the emgine is
This was happening to me before I replaced the computer, and it worked
fine afterwards... Damn thing is too wishy-washy... If you take the
computer off, the car will always be in 3rd gear when it is in "D".. This
is
an indicator that it's not working... it acts like it isn't there.
Good luck!
Dave
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:22:28 -0700
From: "Dave Price" <davep(AT)humanmachine.com>
Subject: DML: A happy ending to my automatic transmission saga...
After a horrible experience with my local "Discount
Transmission" shop, I took my D to AAMCO. They
re-rebuilt the transmission and were amazingly
friendly, affordable, honest, fast, and professional.
They even offer a lifetime warranty for an additional
$500, which will cover parts and labor forever (I'm
real tempted to do this, as the computer itself
would cost that next time it has to be replaced..)
If anyone isn't close to one of the Delorean service
places, I'd highly reccomend AAMCO. It is up to
the individual shop if they will work on it, and I'm
sure service varies, but AAMCO's policies are great...
Who can beat a lifetime warranty?
Just thought I'd pass along the info...
Dave
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 16:55:43 -0500
From: "Bixby, Web" <wbixby(AT)kclife.com>
Subject: DML: RE: Lowering Cars
Just thought I would throw in my 2 bits here.
On Thursday last (May 28) I had dinner with Stephen Wynne and Bill
Swilley. After dinner I had the opportunity to look at Bill's car. It
is a real looker. In fact, if he had not told me that the car had
150,000 mile on it I would not have believed it. The interior looked
spotless and there was not a single blemish on the body. The re-done
wheels literally sparkled. Of all the cars I have seen that have been
lowered this one looked the best. This is an aesthetic observation but
on most of the cars I have seen lowered they look as if the car was
dropped almost on top of the tires. On Bill's car it is just a natural
change.
To summarize, very nice car.
> ----------
> From: William H. Swilley
> Sent: Friday, May 29, 1998 940
> To: dmcnews-digest(AT)world.std.com
> Subject: DML: Lowering Cars
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I'm Bill Swilley, the poor slob that lives and works in Saudi who only
> gets to visit his car once or twice a year. I've just completed a
> 4,500 miles run in it from Houston to the Grand Canyon and back, with
> various stops and detours along the way.
>
<HUGE SNIP>
> Bill Swilley
> Original Owner of #4730
> billswilley(AT)hotmail.com
>
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 19:37:16 -0400
From: Sean Mullally <mullally(AT)pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: DML: A/C water Leak
Travis, I experienced the same problem when I first got my "D". For me
it was just the passenger side. The driver's was dry. It hasn't
happened since, and the only thing that I did that I think may have
helped is I cleaned out some junk (leaves, maple seeds, etc.) that
were in the area underneath the wipers. This was clogging a drain I
believe. Just a thought: Could it be that in winter it rarely rains,
and thus never leaks into your floor? Good luck!
- -Sean
#3868
- --- original message ---
>Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 16:23:30 -0500
>From: thgraham(AT)edge.net (Travis Graham)
>Subject: DML: A/C water Leak
>
>I posted a similar message about 8 months ago when I first got my A/C
>running: My floorboard is quite wet! I believe that it is related to
>using the A/C, because I didn't seem to have the problem during the
>winter months while using heat...
>
>Both the passenger and driver side carpets are thoroughly wet. My
>untested theory is that the water is leaking somewhere and running
>down the fiberglass floor, because the padding seems to be even wetter
>than the carpet. I know that other people get a wet floor after
>running the A/C for a while, but I there is a LOT of water in my
>floor and it just doesn't seem normal.
<snip>
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 19:37:09 -0400
From: Sean Mullally <mullally(AT)pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: DML: Re: Tempretaure Gauge dosen't work
Thanks Duke, that worked like a charm! I was worried it would be a big
hassle. I'd never have thought of that on my own. I nudged it and it
jumped around a little and then I turned the ignition and it sprang right
to 100 and is working again.
- -sean
Duke wrote:
> Sean,
>
> Don't worry, It's a real simple fix! All you have to do is get a paper clip
and straighten it out then insert it into the odometer reset hole. Use
the paper clip to free up your temp gauge. Your car doesn't have to be
running to do this. The reason this happened is because of the dead
battery.
> -----Original Message-----
> I was driving yesterday and noticed my temperature gauge has stopped
> working. It is now pointing straight down, way past the lowest mark I had
jumped the car
> earlier in the day due to a dead battery, so the last thing I needed was
another
> problem.
> <snip>
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:06:22 EDT
From: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com
Subject: DML: N2O
I was thinking about putting a N20 (Nitro) on my "D" do you think that our
little motors can take it.
Jason
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 23:36:53 EDT
From: KKoncelik(AT)aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: Cincinnati Car Show Security
Camera moniters cover the hotel and the area is inside the flood wall so
its
at the end of things with little traffic. The museum I have hired a guard
while we are inside.
HE'LL BE THERE FROM 6:00 TO 10:00
WE'LLL BE OUTSIDE ALL AFTERNOON WITH THE JUDGES AND CARS SO THAT WILL BE
GOOD.
KEN
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Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 03:09:48 EDT
From: KayoOng(AT)aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
Silver Fox,
Forgot to mention this to you on the last reply.
General rule, all auto tranny is supposed to be check while engine is
running.
That means it is hot.
The oil is low because it is pumped and filled into the converter so it
will
read lower when not running.
Some vehicles must have tranny in gear to get an accurate and proper
reading!
Kayo Ong
#05508
Lic. 9D NY
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Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 10:56:04 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: Re: DML: The Engine
You can do anything, if you have the money!
Keep in mind, You may be able to get yourself 250-300HP at the
crankshaft, but will the Trans be able to handle it?!
My approach may be to simply try and make a more powerful engine/trans
setup fit in to the D. Take some measurements, and see if you can put a
front wheel drive engine/trans in to the back of the D. (Sure, the
engine will be sideways, but so what!) The older taurus SHO engine
comes to mind. There are a number of people who race these cars, and
they are getting 300+ HP out of 3.0L! (with superchargers). Stock, it
will put out about 220HP. My stock SHO has left a few Mustang 5.0L's in
the dust at the toll booth!
I just sold a spare 3.0L SHO motor/trans I had. I was holding it with
the intention to put it in a DMC some day. I realized that I would not
have the time or money in the near future, so I sold it.
BTW, my DMC with Island Twin Turbos is about as fast as the SHO. Sure,
it is no 1998 Corvette! but I can keep up with the Mustangs in the DMC
too! Not bad for 2.9L VS 5.0L!
jameel a ahed wrote:
>
> Dear DML,
> I have been thinking about a new project. Please email me direct
<SNIP>
> drop me a line.
> ahed(AT)uiuc.edu
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Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 22:26:34 -0700
From: Matt Peak <mpeak(AT)ucla.edu>
Subject: DML: DMC Posters
If anybody knows where I can buy the Delorean posters "America'a Most
Talked About Car" and "Blizzard...," please write me.
Matt Peak
mpeak(AT)ucla.edu
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Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 02:59:42 EDT
From: KayoOng(AT)aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
Silver Fox,
You must be young. In the beginning there was Dexron for all GM,
Chrysler,
Dodge and Plymouth vehicles.
Many Japanese vehicles like Toyotas, Honda, etc., and European vehicles
that
has automatic transmission uses Dexron I, II and III unless marked to the
effect.
Ford, Lincoln and Mercury and other vehicles that are label non Dexron
uses an
oil known as FLM. The Ford, Lincoln and Mercury auto tranny FLM oil have
up
graded their auto tranny oil too.
There were, no Dexron II and no Dexron III, all the way back when GM auto
tranny was introduced, only Dexron. In the mid to late 1970s the Dexron
II
came to replace Dexron. It has better properties all around for it
purposes
then. Not too long ago there is Dexron III to replace or superseded all
previous Dexrons of the past. You can use it in replacement of Dexron I
and
Dexron II. Again better working properties.
Remember, the Dexron II was the automatic tranny oil back in the mid
1970s and
1980s when the Delorean was engineered and manufactured.
There is even synthetic auto tranny oil available.
They claim to help the tranny and make the tranny last a long time???
Have any one used it?
Or does anyone dare try?
Kayo Ong
#05508
Lic 9D NY
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Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 08:49:03 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM(AT)cesmtp.ccf.org>
Subject: DML: Holes for Luggage Rack w/ Pictures
Travis Graham asked about the luggage rack:
> Where are the holes drilled? I am highly considering buying
> a rack when I go to the warehouse, but you're right - the drilling
> scares me!
Lift the sunshade louver over your engine compartment into the raised
position. You should see the two long, black rubber extrusions on which
the louver rested when it was in the lowered position. They run from the
top of the louver to the bottom on both sides, fitted snugly over the
stainless above the engine compartment. If you peel the rubber away
your will see a section of stainless that is usually hidden from view.
That hidden section of stainless is where you drill the mounting holes.
You also need to trim the underside of the rubber before putting it back
over the mounting holes, but the top of the rubber and all exposed
stainless remains untouched. Once it is done the assembly is invisible
from the outside.
To see some cars with the rack mount installed but the rack stowed in
the trunk, go to the DCO page of the Cicninnati DeLorean Car Show
website at:
http://idt.net/~dmc1219/dmcohio.htm
There are two pictures there featurung my car, as well as a PDF of the
DCO's first newsletter. The bottom picture of my car shows the louver
section very clearly, looking right at the rack mount. If you download
the
newsletter you will see Ron Slaw's car with the luggage rack mount (it's
a red DeLorean with license plate WINGIT). I think DML Moderator James
Espey's car also has a luggage rack, and his car is featured in the poster
you see at:
http://www.dmcnews.com
I doubt anyone will be able to tell the cars equipped with a rack from the
cars that are not. There is *no* question in my mind that a DeLorean
equipped with the DMC factory luggage rack is more valuable than a
DeLorean without one.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: 2 Jun 1998 10:59:25 -0500
From: Dave.Sontos(AT)cooperauto.com
Subject: DML: Dash Lamps
Since I just had my binnacle (?) off to replace some non-functioning
bulbs,
which turned out to be dirty circuit board connections in my dash, I
replaced
the bulbs with new ones. Common bulb numbers are #194 and #168 wedge base
bulbs. I've made a list of bulbs that will fit the PC bulb holders in the
dash.
Bulb Candle Pwr Watts (AT)14Volts
#161 1.0 2.66
#158 2.0 3.36
#194 2.0 3.78
#168 3.0 4.9
I used #168 in the direction indicator lamps and 194 in the rest of the
lamps.
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Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 20:04:18 +0100
From: "Martin Gutkowski (UK)" <msg101(AT)york.ac.uk>
Subject: DML: DeLorean Article
Hi all,
What a nice surprise! I was off to a job interview whilst waiting for my
train, I was (as usual) browsing the car magazines for anything DeLorean
- - and what do you know: "Classic Car Mart" weren't just running a
feature on our love, but also putting their "spotlight" on the DeLorean
Owners Club over here.
Of the two articles, the first is a five page feature about the car "The
rise and Fall of DeLorean" - all standard stuff, with the pictures and
the history we know. One thing I picked out as being quite timely is the
apparent quote from JZD at the time of "If Northern Ireland can build
the Titanic, they can build this car" (!). Oh well.
The spotlight on our club was nice to read - a further three pages
praising the activities at all the car shows and showing a number of
"English" DeLoreans including a shot of the NEC car show last May. One
of the other snaps is of the Eurofest - and noting the strange location
of the aerial on the main car in the pic, I was able to turn to my
girlfriend and say "I've been in that car!" (okay, Alan gave me a ride
to the car park). I rang the publishers today, and they've given me
permission to post a photo of the article on our web page. Hopefully (!)
Gary Hewitt will update it soon to include that and a load of shots from
the car show this year.
All very positive, and nice to read, though it didn't say anything I
didn't already know. Still, it increases awareness :-)
Oh and they refer to the DOA as the "Association of DeLorean Owners".
Kind of misses the point, wouldn't you say :-)
Martin
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Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 16:09:26 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: Re: DML: Cincinnati Car Show Security
FLOOD WALL!?!
Maybe we have something other than vandals to worry about!
KKoncelik(AT)aol.com wrote:
> Camera moniters cover the hotel and the area is inside the flood wall so
><SNIP>
> KEN
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Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 16:18:15 -0400
From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com>
Subject: Re: DML: A happy ending to my automatic transmission saga...
IMHO, you got lucky. I have dealt personally with 4 AAMCO shops over
the years, and have had nothing but trouble.
I will go as far to say that you are the only person I have spoken to
who has been happy with AAMCO.
Each AAMCO shop is individually owned and managed. If you have a
problem, calling the corporate office won't do squat. Basically, your
only advantage to going to a AAMCO verses XXX Trans shop is if you get
the lifetime warranty. You can bring it to any other AAMCO shop for
warranty repair.
Your odds on getting a good AAMCO mechanic are no better than any other
shop. You just have to decide if the warranty is worth it cost.
Again IMHO, it is getting harder and harder to find good mechanics these
days anywhere. I have no specific problem with AAMCO shops.
Dave Price wrote:
<SNIP>
> places, I'd highly reccomend AAMCO. It is up to
> the individual shop if they will work on it, and I'm
> sure service varies, but AAMCO's policies are great...
> Who can beat a lifetime warranty?
>
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Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:44:19 -0700
From: "Dave Price" <davep(AT)humanmachine.com>
Subject: Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
>There is even synthetic auto tranny oil available.
>They claim to help the tranny and make the tranny last a long time???
>Have any one used it?
>Or does anyone dare try?
>
>Kayo Ong
I just put in a couple quarts of the synthetic stuff (AMSOIL) when I had
my
tranny
worked on last week. It was pretty pricey ($7/qt.) but it's 3 times more
resistant to heat than petrolium. Because a lot of transmission problems
are
related to heat, I figured it was a good idea... The transmission works
great
using it, although I doubt that it's much of an improvement on anything
but
extreme
conditions. I just like to use the best for my baby.
Dave
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:08:43 -0500
From: Gowler Don-CFPO01 <Don_Gowler-CFPO01(AT)email.mot.com>
Subject: RE: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
Thanks for all the help guys.
Interesting to note that regardless if you drain it hot or cold the most
you will get out is just short of 3 quarts - the pan. The other 6 or so
quarts remain in the transmission so all you are doing is just
refreshing the fluid. Do you agree Joe?
Regards, The Silver Fox
>----------
>From: Brandon S. Moody
>Reply To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com
>Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 1998 12:23 AM
>To: DMC List
>Subject: Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
>
>> I notice that the manual suggest changing the automatic transmission
>> fluid while it is hot - why is that?
>>
>> Also, I notice that the fluid level on the dip stick is over the 'Hot'
>> mark when it is cold - one would assume too much fluid. Yet
>> it is below the 'Cold' mark when it is hot - one would assume
>> not enough fluid. Any insights on this phenomena?
>
>Changing the fluid when HOT is just like engine oil. It
>flows much better and you are more likely to get all of
>it to drain out. As for the correct level, make sure you
>are checking the fluid correctly. The fluid should be warm,
>in park, and engine running. Also, on level ground. Fluid
>somewhere between the full and low mark is fine.
>
>-Brandon
>
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Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:19:21 -0500
From: Gowler Don-CFPO01 <Don_Gowler-CFPO01(AT)email.mot.com>
Subject: RE: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
Dave, you mixed the two fluids? Again, I'm told the tranny holds over 8
quarts but you can only drain up to 3. Good question - how do you get
the rest out?
The Silver Fox - and not too young Kayo - ergo, the 'Silver'
>----------
>From: Dave Price
>Reply To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com
>Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 1998 8:44 PM
>To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com
>Subject: Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
>
>>There is even synthetic auto tranny oil available.
>>They claim to help the tranny and make the tranny last a long time???
>>Have any one used it?
>>Or does anyone dare try?
>>
>>Kayo Ong
>
>
>I just put in a couple quarts of the synthetic stuff (AMSOIL) when I had my
>tranny
>worked on last week. It was pretty pricey ($7/qt.) but it's 3 times more
>resistant to heat than petrolium. Because a lot of transmission problems are
>related to heat, I figured it was a good idea... The transmission works great
>using it, although I doubt that it's much of an improvement on anything
>but extreme conditions. I just like to use the best for my baby.
>
>Dave
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 98 18:52:42 PDT
From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody(AT)kih.net>
Subject: Re: DML: The Engine
> setup fit in to the D. Take some measurements, and see if you can put a
> front wheel drive engine/trans in to the back of the D. (Sure, the
> engine will be sideways, but so what!) The older taurus SHO engine
> comes to mind. There are a number of people who race these cars, and
> they are getting 300+ HP out of 3.0L! (with superchargers). Stock, it
> will put out about 220HP. My stock SHO has left a few Mustang 5.0L's in
> the dust at the toll booth!
I also own a 1993 SHO. While doing the restoration on a delorean, I took
some measurments of a spare 3.2 SHO engine and hoisted it into the D
frame. It really didn't seem possible to but that engine in the car
in its FWD format. NO way the drive shafts would align. BUT, it
did fit very well when facing to the rear. Although, you would have
to find another trans. That engine is GREAT. Keeps up with the
5.0 mustangs and the SHO weighs in at almost 5000 pounds. Imagine
what it would do in the D. BUT, I'm considering the GM SYCLONE/TYPHOON
engine for my project. I like the SHO better, but the Engine management
system
is very very complex and almost impossible to install in another car.
- -BRandon
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Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 19:21:24 EDT
From: KKoncelik(AT)aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: Cincinnati Car Show Security
Actually you are right the last time it flooded the parking lot was
underwater
but I think you can relax on that its gotten there only once in the last
15
years. Besides everyone from the trip needs the car washed anyway
Thanks
Ken
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Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:45:05 EDT
From: KayoOng(AT)aol.com
Subject: Re: DML: Automatic Transmission Fluid
Dave,
I don't want to sound like I am off the wall and to make you paranoid.
Did you say you put a couple cans of Amsoil Oil?
Couple means two (2).
The auto tranny holds in the final drive holds 3.6 pints, almost two
quarts.
I believed the auto tranny holds more then two quarts with the converter,
at
least over 6 quarts total????
In any either case I believe you have mixed a synthetic base oil with a
petroleum base oil.
By doing so you have contaminated your tranny?
I was told you cannot mix the two oil.
If this is true, then purge, purge, purge or drain all the tranny oil if
you
can before you may have other troubles.
Kayo Ong
#05508
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Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 20:12:51 -0500
From: thgraham(AT)edge.net (Travis Graham)
Subject: DML: DMC-80 brochure now online
I have put the (large) image files of the DMC-80 brochure on my website
for
all of those interested in seeing this fabulous piece of DMC memorabilia.
Point your browser to http://edge.net/~thgraham/dmc-80.htm. Like I said,
they're large files. It will take a few minutes to get all of them
(unless
of course you use a cable modem).
Many thanks to Bruce Benson for supplying the images!!! Enjoy! You will
notice that all of the brochure's pages are not there yet - Bruce is
sending
me the additional pages and I will post them immediately. Mail me if
there
are any problems.
Travis Graham
VIN #6344
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Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 16:25:54 -0700
From: "lseiler(AT)radiance.com" <lseiler(AT)radiance.com>
Subject: Re: Binnacle Removal (was: DML: Dash Lamps)
At 10:59 AM 6/2/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Since I just had my binnacle (?) off to replace some non-functioning
>bulbs,
>which turned out to be dirty circuit board connections in my dash, I
>replaced
>the bulbs with new ones. Common bulb numbers are #194 and #168 wedge base
>bulbs. I've made a list of bulbs that will fit the PC bulb holders in the
>dash.
>
>Bulb Candle Pwr Watts (AT)14Volts
>#161 1.0 2.66
>#158 2.0 3.36
>#194 2.0 3.78
>#168 3.0 4.9
>
>I used #168 in the direction indicator lamps and 194 in the rest of the
>lamps.
>
Reply:
Hello Dave,
Could you out line the steps in removing the binnacle? I am about to do a
speedo replacement and repair the lens retainer. The manual is not very
clear on the process of removal.
thanks
Lee
Radiance Software International
1726 Francisco Street
Berkeley California 94703 USA
Tel: 510-649-9118 Fax: 510-848-7613
lseiler(AT)radiance.com
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Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 21:28:21 -0400
From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4(AT)osu.edu>
Subject: Re: DML: Cincinnati Car Show Security
I'll handle this one Ken!
The flood/ retaining wall was built to keep flood waters out of
Covington
(the town across the river from Cincinnati), but has not been in use
since the
installation of an intricate series of locks and dams up river from the
city.
Of course if we have a major surge of water, it may be used again, but
that
rarely happens, and if it does you should have more than ample time to
move
your cars to higher ground. (what with the help of a trusty flood wall to
keep
the water back) I've never seen Covington flooded in 21 years of living
in
Cincinnati. That's partly because of the flood wall (last year), but it's
mostly because the river doesn't overflow it's boundries that often. Hope
that helps. See you on the 13th.
- -Josh
Marc A Levy wrote:
> FLOOD WALL!?!
>
> Maybe we have something other than vandals to worry about!
>
> KKoncelik(AT)aol.com wrote:
> > Camera moniters cover the hotel and the area is inside the flood wall so
> ><SNIP>
> > KEN
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 22:28:30 -0400
From: Andrew Strano <ags128(AT)psu.edu>
Subject: DML: DMC
Dear Fellow DMC Admirers,
I finally found a Delorean in my area. It has PA plates so I guess it's
gonna be around for a while. First I saw it at an AutoBody shop where the
guy wasn't very enthusied at working on it. It kept calling it a Dog and
a
piece of junk. He had a beer with him and set in on the DMC. I almost
fell over with the lack of respect the man had for such an invention. I
put my name and number on the hood when he left (because he was just the
mechanic) because I was just interested in knowing her details. About 2
weeks later, I spotted the same one at an Upholstry shop. Then I stopped
and another guy was working on some 'other' car (I think it was a Mustang
or something ==> phea!) and he noticed my interest so he said the doors
are
open if I'd wanna open her up. After picking up my mouth off of the
ground
I did just that. I was soo awsome. But what I was interested in was the
noise. I didn't really hear the noise I thought it'd make like on BTTF
when the doors open. I did see a sticker inside the doors that said model
1982. Anyway I said my goodbyes and determined I was going to buy one
before I leave this planet. They are simply just a neat looking car
(inspired by BTTF of course). Ok, well just wanted to share my
Enthusiasm.
- -Andy
- -A~~~~G~~~a
- -n~~~~S~~~n
- -d~~~~ t~~~o
- -y~~~~~r ****
visit my homepage: www.personal.psu.edu/ags128
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