Sunday, June 21 1998 Volume 03 : Number 379
In this issue:
DML: Dielectric grease
Re: DML: "Di-electric" grease
DML: Re: Parking brake cover...
DML: Car abuse anecdote, was Re: Who's DMC is it?
Re: DML: "Di-electric" grease
DML: history channel and VA DMC
DML: New Owner #04419
DML: VOLVO Engine ?
DML: Cincinnatti pictures
Re: DML: Engine swap
DML: Change your wipers latley?
DML: RE: history channel and VA DMC
Re: DML: VOLVO Engine ?
[none]
DML: More stuff
DML: Re: Cincinnatti pictures
DML: The DeLorean Truely is a "Sports Car!"
DML: RE: Delorean problems
Re: DML: VOLVO Engine ?
Re: DML: The DeLorean Truely is a "Sports Car!"
DML: unexpected shut off
Re: DML: unexpected shut off
Re: DML: unexpected shut off
DML: More Cincinnati Photos
Re: DML: Engine swap
Re: DML: unexpected shut off
Re: DML: unexpected shut off
DML: Tension bar adjustment
DML: Turbo
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 17:32:00 +0000 From: Bob Brandys <oehcs(AT)flash.net> Subject: DML: Dielectric grease
Dielectric grease is grease that is non conductive under a high dielectric field.
The most common form is calcium stearate. This can be purchase at electrical supply houses.
Lubriplate is not a dielectric grease. It is lithium stearate and for those still familar with high school chemistry - lithium is more polar than calcium and will be more conductive. Lithium will also oxidize sooner under electrical use.
On the other had some grease is much better than none. Use what you have to avoid wear and damage. Since most deloreans are not frequently used its probably not a major difference. On the other had I only use the "right stuff" when fixing a car.
P. S. Thanks to all the people who visited the 97 Delorean with the Time Machine Option.
We will of course be there at Cleveland. I will be sending a letter to JZD asking (pleading)him to come there. I hope everyone else will too.
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:21:20 -0500 From: scottmueller(AT)zebra.net (Scott Mueller) Subject: Re: DML: "Di-electric" grease
Greg Guillot wrote: > > For those of you who were at the tech session held by Rob Grady, he > mentioned using di-electric grease, or grease that does not conduct > electricity. Rob stated that dielectric grease should be used to > lubricate and protect electrical connections since the grease will > not ground out electrical circuits. Unfortunately, no one seemed real > clear on exactly what type of grease is actually "di-electric." Well, > when I returned home, I used my multitestor to check the White > Lithium grease that I have been using, and sure enough - it is > non-conductive. The brand I have is Gunk White Lithium grease, which > I purchased at Pep Boys. This stuff is also used on mechanical parts, > such as hinges, etc. I have been using it to lubricate all parts as I > go through the car and clean and relubricate all connections and > joints/hinges. > If anyone who is more electrically or mechanically inclined has a > better idea, please share it with us. > > Greg Guillot > VIN #2926
Try tune-up grease. It comes in a 0.3 oz tube for about $2.00. You can get it a any parts house. It is used to lubricate the cam that drives the points in the ignition. Remember points from the old days.
Scott
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 19:57:28 -0400 From: "Joe " <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Parking brake cover...
Nick, Sorry I'm responding so late, did you find out how to remove this part, if not let me know and I tell you what to do. Joe/DeLorean Services
- ---------- > From: NJP548(AT)aol.com > To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Subject: DML: Parking brake cover... > Date: Sunday, May 31, 1998 11:45 PM > > Hey List, > > I am happy to say that I passed my road test Saturday and I am > finally > going to put my De Lorean on the road soon. Also I wanted to fix my > parking > brake but I can't get the carpet cover off of the lever, if anyone knows > how > to do it I'll appreciate the help. I am going to Acron, Ohio next > weekend for > a wedding. I was hopping the wedding was the weekend after that so I > could go > to Cincinnati and see all the other De Loreans there but I guess there > will be > other times for me to do that so I can bring my own car!!! Thanks for any > help I could get for the parking brake cover. > > later, > Nick > VIN#1852
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 20:20:42 EDT From: dmcnut(AT)juno.com (DeLorean Nut) Subject: DML: Car abuse anecdote, was Re: Who's DMC is it?
>the law >to abuse what really amounts to a mode of transportation. Sure, it >seems >inappropriate to us [I'm guessing that everyone on this list felt a >certain >revulsion in seeing the DeLorean destroyed at the conclusion of BTTF3] >but, >to some, it's all just normal wear-and-tear on a vehicle notorious for >developing its own problems, regardless of treatment. I've seen >people >trash things like Vectors, which are rather less replaceable than >DeLoreans, >simply because they can afford to, and don't really feel guilty about >the >mindless exorbiance of wrecking a $300,000 car. As stupid and, >possibly, >evil as it may seem to the observer, it's still the prerogative of the >owner >to treat a possession his own way.
Reminds me of quite a hair-raising tale...and it is true! A friend of mine is the co-owner of a local Ferrari dealership and had a gentleman, let's call him John, who had come in regularly for years and had always been "just looking." John was in his mid-40s and had plenty of money to play with, as was evidenced by my friend's conversations with him. One day my friend and his staff were basically ignoring John as they had for years whenever the showroom was busy, except this day John was ready to purchase the car oh his dreams (not sure what model or what year this was). And he did. John was extremely enthusiastic and then visited the dealer frequently for minor modifications and always seemed to be spending time cosmetically refining the car, waxing it, having the seats cleaned, etc. About a year passed, and one day John showed up with his car - except the car was on a flatbed. John was very distressed and complained that his "baby" just would not start, even with a jump. Everything looked fine at first glance, so the mechanics decided to have a look at the car a little more closely. The punchline: While asking John routine questions, the mechanic asked casually, "when was the last time that yu changed the oil?" In response, John's face got very red, he hit himself onthe head, and barked out, "I knew there was something that I forgot!!!" He proceeded to do a little nervous dance around the showroom as the mechanics tallied up the bill for his seized engine and the accompanying repairs that were needed.
Some owners love their cars, some just love the looks of the cars.
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 22:23:04 EDT From: KayoOng(AT)aol.com Subject: Re: DML: "Di-electric" grease
Folks,
As I can remember correctly, dielectric grease and related products are use for lubrication on all electrical and electronic components and parts. It is design to be non conductive!
You said you used a meter to check the white lithium grease. You were checking its conductive abilities and got a negative reading? Yes, it may be non conductive at the lower direct electrical current. You were testing the lithium white grease in using the meter's own electrical supply, low direct electrical current. Don't try it at higher direct electrical current, it will be a conductor!
Remember, even the best non conductor material known as an insulator IS and WILL BE a conductor at some point on the conductivity scale. The best insulation material produced and used on wires will have an electrical "FLASHING OVER POINT."
This "flash over" occurs at a higher electrical current range. You were not checking the white lithium grease at a higher direct electrical current. Dielectric grease and its liquid products are non conductive at the HIGHER DIRECT ELECTRICAL CURRENT LEVELS. Your white grease is okay at the lower direct electrical current usage.
USE DIELECTRIC GREASE FOR ELECTRICAL APPLICATIONS. WHITE GREASE FOR ALL OTHER MECHANICAL APPLICATIONS. That is the difference on the two grease and its electrical properties.
The only high electrical current we will ever worry about is the high tension wires known as the ignition wires, cap, and the rotor. Want a shocking experience? Go and properly ground yourself to the car. Slightly touch a high tension wire (spark plug wire) with the engine running and you will get a jolt when the electricity jumps from the spark plug wire on to you.
DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!!!!!!! DON'T HOLD ME RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS EXPERIENCE!!!!!!!!!
On damp or rainy days, cars with poor ignitions wires will not start or idle correctly because of the poor insulation. Cracked or dried insulation. This is where electricity jumps off to nearest least resistance or towards ground by itself. Use a product as WIRE DRIER to insulate when the wires, cap and rotor are "wet." This is another dielectric product.
WD-40 is another dielectric product in LIQUID FORM. It will insulate, isolated and float water and moisture to the surface of a component. It is an EXCELLENT PRODUCT. It is mistakenly for use as replacement for silicone lubricant or lubricating oil which it is not. It will lubricate for light usage under certain applications. WD-40 do and will dry in a short time, so don't expect it to last like regular oils. WD-40 is the only product produce by the WD-40 Company. They make no other products, and they are on the Stock Exchange just producing WD-40 alone!!!!!!!!!!! No, I am not their rep or salesman.
My greatest experience with the WD-40 product? I had a retail store 18 years ago when there was fire next door to us. There was water sprayed everywhere and onto our stock of electrical parts and components. All is lost? No. Since we sold WD-40 in our store. We took several cases spray the box and the electrical parts and components. WD-40 saved the whole entire stock and their boxes. The water dried first and the WD-40 dried several days later. You could not tell there were water damaged on the parts even some of the paper boxes. Save many, many, many thousand dollars of electrical parts and components. All electrical parts and components work perfectly. That is good!
Learn by burn! Wired for fire?
Hope this was informative and wasn't too long.
Kayo Ong #05508 Lic 9D NY
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 18:27:04 -0700 (PDT) From: illyana delorean <illyanadmc(AT)yahoo.com> Subject: DML: history channel and VA DMC
hey! haven't checked my mail for a while, so i missed the announcement about the History Channel's sports car show on tuesday (suposedly). did any of you all watch it? were there any DMCs? just wondering! does anyone know if the HC is planning to re-run the program, i would like to see it even if there are no DMCs.
also, i was informed by a friend of mine that he has seen a DMC recently in an apartement complex near where i live. so i went to check it out and, sure enough, there was a nice 5speed delorean with Virginia plates. i was wondering if any of you own this DMC or know who does. it was parked at the Greens apartments, Tucson, AZ. hmmm... it was the first time i'd ever seen it around.
thanks!
<-illyana->
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Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 22:57:29 -0700 From: "Richard J.Myosky" <rjm(AT)lrbcg.com> Subject: DML: New Owner #04419
As the new owner of a 1981 Delorean and just coming back from the ralley in southern Ohio.It was a real treat to stop in Columbus at the warehouse to purchase the parts (windshield,dash and more) and to see the quanity of parts still on the market.The folks at the warehouse were very helpful and took great pains to see that I got the best of the lot when I picked out the parts that I needed.It is a shame,that I will not be able to enjoy this privilege again,because of an idiot.
I have been reading the digest version of this group for a couple of months and have talked to some of you on the phone with my questions regarding looking for my first Delorean purchase.Some of you I had a chance to meet and thank in person while I was at the ralley last weekend.I hope to have my car up and running before too long and get the opportunity to meet the rest of the crowd which has offered much help.Kathy and I were very impressed with the people and the cars that made it to the show.
The car has not been run since 1993 and I'm stripping down the fuel system (gas tank ,new fuel pump,gas lines,filter,ect.).The mess in the tank was unbelivable,but did clean up with repeated cleanings.I understand that the fuel pump filter is no longer available.The one in the tank fell apart in my hands.What other filter (brand or part#) would you recommend to replace this filter and how long should this extend into the tank.
I have downloaded the parts manual from the net and purchased the manual at the show.The parts manual shows a baffle setup which I found no part of when I got into the tank? Was this part ever used and just shown in the books or do I need to order one before I start putting things back together.
I have read most of the back issues of the digest and have failed to find the answer.Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks Richard J.Myosky #4419
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 03:41:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Xavier Werquin <deloreanfr(AT)rocketmail.com> Subject: DML: VOLVO Engine ?
Hi to every DMC users,
Please sorry for my bad english I'm french. My DMC have a mono Turbo extension fix by a very pro garage but I must be allowed with the french office of car records (very hard one)with this engine modification I can't be allowed
I would like to exchange the actual one with a normal atmospheric engine. Do you know wich engine is as short as possible as the DMC 12 engine The Volvo ? and witch model ? or the Renault 30 or Peugeot 604 engine ? (we can have one in france for peanuts).
Perhaps have you solution for having a normal Atmospheric system with just a little exchange. But I need some lost parts (Air pipes).
Thanks
Xavier Werquin Web master of Delorean Club de France www.geocities.com/~deloreanfr _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free (AT)yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:02:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Sean P Mullally" <mullally(AT)pilot.msu.edu> Subject: DML: Cincinnatti pictures
I have some of my pictures from last week's event online in case anyone is interested. They are on my web site at: http://www.msu.edu/~mullally/dmc
- -Sean Mullally vin #3868
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:35:16 -0400 From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: DML: Engine swap
I said this a few times.. I also have a SHO, and would love to have the 220+ HP in my DMC. (I am having problems with my SHO right now, so this idea does not appeal at this moment.... but... This too shall pass!)
The engine does not look like it would fit in it's front wheel drive configuration, and would be very complicated to mount the same way as the DMC motor.
I'd really like to find a expert on the PRV6 and related motors, and see if there is a DOHC head that will bolt on to the PRV6. The more I consider options for improving the power of the D, the more I think it is better to try and work with the motor we have. It would be less expensive, and could then be shared as a "bolt on" modification as opposed to a huge custom project.
In addition, I recently spoke to a shop that does custom Turbo work on all sorts of cars, and asked about the D. He had worked on DMC's before, as well as other cars with similar setups. He suggested that I decrease the fuel pressure (he said there was a sorta valve on the return fuel line). He said that decreasing the pressure would increase the air/fuel mixture, and improve the performance with the turbos. The computer controlled mixture adjustment had limitations, so just removing the O2 sensor was not enough (in his opinion). Anyone have any more information on this?
JSteuben(AT)aol.com wrote: > > Hey Brandon, > > Any chance that a SHO engine would fit in a 'D'? Might be the perfect > solution> > Regards, Joe
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 09:46:49 -0400 From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: DML: Change your wipers latley?
On my way home from Ohio, I cleaned my windshield at the gas station, and caught the clip on the wiper with the squeege.
The clip broke... and, of course, it started to rain about a hour later as I got in to eastern PA. The wiper blade does not say in without this clip.
I am told the clips come with the blades, but my blades are in good shape and I almost never drive in the rain. Anyone replace/going to replace their blades? If so, can you save me one of those plastic clips?
Contact me directly. Thanks, Marc
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 10:47:37 -0400 From: "Yocom, Shannon" <syocom(AT)mitchellco.com> Subject: DML: RE: history channel and VA DMC
I saw the Tues. show. Sady it did not have any DMCs in it. The show after that was the 10 Greatest American Cars, not there either.
Incedentially (sp) , remember all the debate and futing on the History Channels web servey on the Greatest Sports Car. . . Well on the Tues. show the first 2 sentences out of the hosts mouth was indirectly/directly about the servey saying (in my paraphrase) that if you want to start a fight amonst car lovers try to come up w/ a definition of a sports car. ( I don't have the tape right infront of me to re-watch it an give the proper "quote". Also on the topic of the DMC being a sports car. . . On the self mailer promotional brochure on the DMC on the inside it reads "1981 DeLorean Sports Car Specifications" & then goes on to list the specs. Reversed in black & white I guess that settles it.
- - Shannon
> ---------- > From: illyana delorean > Reply To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Sent: Friday, June 19, 1998 1:27 AM > To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Subject: DML: history channel and VA DMC > > hey! haven't checked my mail for a while, so i missed the announcement > about the History Channel's sports car show on tuesday (suposedly). > did any of you all watch it? were there any DMCs? just wondering! does > anyone know if the HC is planning to re-run the program, i would like > to see it even if there are no DMCs. > <snip
> thanks! > > <-illyana-> > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free (AT)yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:05:37 -0400 From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: DML: VOLVO Engine ?
The delorean motor is not exactly the same as used in the Volvo.
I dont know exactly what turbo setup you have, but.... You will need to replace the intake and exhaust plumbing back to stock. In addition, you may need to replace your O2 sensor (they are usualy removed) and may need to replace your distributor (they are sometimes re-curved).
I have no idea what the French requirements are, but on my car I replaced the O2 sensor, and added 2 "hobbs" switches to activate/deactivate the O2 sensor. (Well, Rob Grady did it!) This got me back to the factory emission specifications. I am still sometimes questioned about the Catalytic Converter (missing) but usualy get through without it.
You may also want to question the shop that did the work. They should be able to do what is necessary to meet the French laws.
Good Luck! Marc
Xavier Werquin wrote: > > Hi to every DMC users, > > Please sorry for my bad english I'm french. > My DMC have a mono Turbo extension fix by a very pro garage > but I must be allowed with the french office of car records > (very hard one)with this engine modification I can't be allowed > > I would like to exchange the actual one with a normal atmospheric > engine. > Do you know wich engine is as short as possible as the DMC 12 engine > The Volvo ? and witch model ? > or the Renault 30 or Peugeot 604 engine ? > (we can have one in france for peanuts). > > Perhaps have you solution for having a normal Atmospheric > system with just a little exchange. > But I need some lost parts (Air pipes). > > Thanks > > Xavier Werquin > Web master of Delorean Club de France > www.geocities.com/~deloreanfr > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free (AT)yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:10:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dipl.-Ing. ZACH Wolfgang"(AT)world.std.com Subject: [none]
<wzach.lehrer.htl.htl-braunau(AT)htlbraunau.asn-linz.ac.at> To: Xavier Werquin <deloreanfr(AT)rocketmail.com>, dmcnews(AT)world.std.com Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:07:37 +0100 Subject: Re: DML: VOLVO Engine ? Sender: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com Precedence: list Reply-To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com
Xavier wrote :
> Please sorry for my bad english I'm french. > My DMC have a mono Turbo extension fix by a very pro garage > but I must be allowed with the french office of car records > (very hard one)with this engine modification I can't be allowed > > I would like to exchange the actual one with a normal atmospheric > engine.
I would like to change my normal atmospheric engine to your turbo engine if you would like to. I am located in Austria near the German border (Passau/Burghausen), where are you located ? Are the distances worth a try ?
regards Wolfgang DMC_2hot4u(AT)unforgettable.com
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:13:09 -0700 From: "lseiler(AT)radiance.com" <lseiler(AT)radiance.com> Subject: DML: More stuff
To: All DML and DOA members
The rest of the DMC cartoons and Limited edition pages are now up. You can also find the boxes for the P6 DeLorean engine and the frame. There is also a copy of the National Geographic magazine and one page from it dedicated to the DMC-12. And finally a copy of the reservation certificate I am sending to reservation holders.
You will see no text to speak of at the site at this point. This will change as I get better (from surgery) and can spend some time uploading the HTML content.
In about a week or 10 days I will set up the bulletin board which will have it's own DMC area. This area is intended for use of reservation holders to use in two ways, first exchange information about the kits as they progress to completion, and secondly to help one another in assembling the kits.
One final note: I view the kits as having the potential to be extremely accurate scale reproductions of the full sized automobiles, down to the finest detail, the only ay this can happen is for the kit owners to continue what I have started.
For the moment if you have comments in general I am sure that James would welcome your post, if you have a comment for me or just other kit owners, please send it to lee(AT)totalimmersion.com. I will use this e-mail as the opening material for the bulletin board.
Thanks
Lee
Radiance Software International 1726 Francisco Street Berkeley California 94703 USA Tel: 510-649-9118 Fax: 510-848-7613 lseiler(AT)radiance.com
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 11:22:04 -0400 From: bvaillancourt(AT)info-boutique.com (Benoit Vaillancourt) Subject: DML: Re: Cincinnatti pictures
Great pictures Sean !! I wasn't able to go at the car show. Your pics gave me a little ... in the heart !!
The Delorean that was rebuild as in BTTF, how was the interior, all the same ?? Is it the owner who did that or he made it by someone else? Pretty cool from the exterior, maybe the neon was to be realign but beside that, pretty cool..
Take care...
Benoit Vaillancourt bvaillancourt(AT)info-boutique.com
- -----Original Message----- From: Sean P Mullally <mullally(AT)pilot.msu.edu> To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com <dmcnews(AT)world.std.com> Date: Friday, June 19, 1998 10:50 AM Subject: DML: Cincinnatti pictures
>I have some of my pictures from last week's event online in case anyone is >interested. They are on my web site at: http://www.msu.edu/~mullally/dmc > > >-Sean Mullally >vin #3868 > >
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:07:29 -0400 From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM(AT)cesmtp.ccf.org> Subject: DML: The DeLorean Truely is a "Sports Car!"
Shannon Yocom said:
> ". . . on the Tues. show the first 2 sentences out of the hosts > mouth was indirectly/directly about the servey saying (in my > paraphrase) that if you want to start a fight amonst car lovers > try to come up w/ a definition of a sports car. > [snip] > Also on the topic of the DMC being a sports car. . . On the self > mailer promotional brochure on the DMC on the inside it reads: > "1981 DeLorean Sports Car Specifications"
When the production cars hit the market, the DeLorean Motorcars Company dubbed them with the name "DeLorean Sports Car." The model name "DMC 12" was only used during development, reflecting the hoped-for market price of $12,000. Because the price rose much higher than that, the DMC 12 name was not used by DMC for the production cars.
When I registered my car, the State of Ohio did not recognize the model name DMC 12. The official model name on my title and registration is "DeLorean Sports Car," although I know from previous DML discussions that other states do recognize DMC 12.
While everyone else in the world can argue and fight about whether their Trans Am, 'cuda, or Jag is a true sports car, we DeLorean owners don't need to worry about it. To the best of my knowledge, we have the only car in the world with the words "Sports Car" in its name!
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:57:02 -0400 From: "Cirillo, Ronald A" <Cirillo_R(AT)code80.npt.nuwc.navy.mil> Subject: DML: RE: Delorean problems
Jim,
I understand your not wanting to spend a lot of money fixing your car. If I read your problem correctly it sounds like classic a fuel starvation problem. That couple with the fact the car sat for some period of time without running. I've been there and know what can happen. I actually had a fuel pump fail because of not being able to get fuel on the suction side. You could do a quick test to see if this is the problem by disconnecting the fuel input line to the fuel distributor and placing it in a suitable container (one that will not allow it to splash out). I then would connect 12 volts directly to the fuel pump (keep the polarity right). I made up a set of electrical leads that I connected from the engine compartment and watched to see if the container filled up. There should be a rapid discharge of fuel. If this does not happen or the pump does not run the problem could be the fuel pump, the fuel filter, the pickup hose inside the tank, or the screen inside the tank. I suggest you take the pump out and look inside the tank to see if there is any contamination. If there is-get rid of the gas and clean the tank, hose and screen. It really is not a difficult job. Any good injector cleaner will clean it up. You should change the filter anyway since the car sat for such a long time.
Ron > ---------- > From: Jim Plamondon[SMTP:saab82(AT)hotmail.com] > Reply To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 3:00 AM > To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Subject: DML: Delorean problems > > Hi this is Jim Plamondon from Iowa, Council Bluffs. Right next to > Omaha. > > I'm having many problems w/ my car. It is a 81, vin 1746, automatic, > and 16,000 miles on it. We got it for only 16,000 dollars. > I'm only 16 and have little money to spend, I have help from my dad. > I have put over 1,500 mile sence we bought in Feb. > > when we got it, it didn't like to start hot. After awhile it got > slower, > then > died. I took it to a machinc, he said it was the wire to the fuel > pump > was dead. He tapped it to another and it work. It was still slow and > > didn't start Inertia switch still work w/ the tap wire to the fuel > pump. > He cold not do no more to it so I took it to another mechanic. The > 2nd > mechanic said that the reason the car was slow was that the wiring was > > all messed up and needed to be fixed. I don't think thats right, but I > > could be wrong. > > Jim Plamondon > Saab82(AT)hotmail.com > vin 1746 > > P.S. I have put in fresh gas (the car sat in a show room for about > 2yrs), new fuses, and new boot that hold the fuel pump. > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:54:37 -0400 From: "Ronald Pohala" <rpohala(AT)luzerne.edu> Subject: Re: DML: VOLVO Engine ?
Lots of modifications to it like Alpine additions and adjustments. It is a pain to try and get it all right.
Ron
At 03:41 AM 6/19/98 -0700, you wrote: >Hi to every DMC users, > >Please sorry for my bad english I'm french. >My DMC have a mono Turbo extension fix by a very pro garage >but I must be allowed with the french office of car records >(very hard one)with this engine modification I can't be allowed > >I would like to exchange the actual one with a normal atmospheric >engine. >Do you know wich engine is as short as possible as the DMC 12 engine >The Volvo ? and witch model ? >or the Renault 30 or Peugeot 604 engine ? >(we can have one in france for peanuts). > >Perhaps have you solution for having a normal Atmospheric >system with just a little exchange. >But I need some lost parts (Air pipes). > >Thanks > >Xavier Werquin >Web master of Delorean Club de France >www.geocities.com/~deloreanfr >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free (AT)yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 14:20:37 -0500 From: Duke <at88mph(AT)mobis.com> Subject: Re: DML: The DeLorean Truely is a "Sports Car!"
Not that this is really related, but in the eyes of my insurance company, they don't see the DeLorean as a 'Sports Car'; THANK GOD FOR THAT!!!!!!!!!
Duke
Mike Substelny wrote:
> When the production cars hit the market, the DeLorean Motorcars > Company dubbed them with the name "DeLorean Sports Car." The model > name "DMC 12" was only used during development, reflecting the > hoped-for market price of $12,000. Because the price rose much higher > than that, the DMC 12 name was not used by DMC for the production > cars. > > When I registered my car, the State of Ohio did not recognize the model > name DMC 12. The official model name on my title and registration is > "DeLorean Sports Car," although I know from previous DML discussions > that other states do recognize DMC 12. > > While everyone else in the world can argue and fight about whether their > Trans Am, 'cuda, or Jag is a true sports car, we DeLorean owners don't > need to worry about it. To the best of my knowledge, we have the only > car in the world with the words "Sports Car" in its name! > > - Mike Substelny
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:05:23 -0400 From: John Murray <jwmurray(AT)gate.net> Subject: DML: unexpected shut off
Hello list,
My 81 5spd cut off while driving. Had the A/C running radio on and it died. Never any hint of this before. Aprox 30-40 minutes later it started up fine. When it did cut off there was still power to the door lights and interior lights only, no radio power, no a/c function, no gauges, ingition did nothing. After I got it started, I limped it home. I did not turn on the radio or a/c for fear of it happening again. The car had no indication that anything was wrong, guages functioning properly, wasnt over heated, plenty of volts.Anyone have any suggestions, comments or even know what caused this?
Bewildered....
John Murray VIN# 2390 FL Lic 81DMC12
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:06:13 -0500 From: steve r <stephenr(AT)net-2000.net> Subject: Re: DML: unexpected shut off
How long have you owned your D? It sounds like you have the classic low power alternator problem. I think the cheapest solution would be to use a solar cell to keep that car battery at its maximum charge. I have also heard of people on the list using devices such as the battery buddy. I hope you are able to find the problem and fix it soon. Good luck!
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:14:46 +0000 From: ausmith(AT)pdx.oneworld.com Subject: Re: DML: unexpected shut off
Hi,
Had this happen with my previous D. Check the plugs behind the drivers seat. Same hatch as on the other side. Mine were loose and caused the cutout.
Chris
> Hello list, > > My 81 5spd cut off while driving. Had the A/C running radio on > and it died. Never any hint of this before. Aprox 30-40 minutes later > it started up fine. When it did cut off there was still power to the > door lights and interior lights only, no radio power, no a/c function, > no gauges, ingition did nothing. After I got it started, I limped it > home. I did not turn on the radio or a/c for fear of it happening > again. The car had no indication that anything was wrong, guages > functioning properly, wasnt over heated, plenty of volts.Anyone have any > suggestions, comments or even know what caused this? > > Bewildered.... > > John Murray > VIN# 2390 > FL Lic 81DMC12 >
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:32:41 -0800 From: "Ken Montgomery" <kenm(AT)compctr.ccs.csus.edu> Subject: DML: More Cincinnati Photos
I can't begin to thank Ken enough for the wonderful event he put on for all of us in Cincinnati. Great Job!
I recall most of it through the viewfinder of my camcorder I had glued to my eye most of the time. However, I did take a small amount of photographs, which I have now posted on my web site:
www.jps.net/arkham/delorean01.htm
I'd love to trade photos with anyone. I already owe copies to Ken and a few others. Thanks again!
- ------------------------------------------------------- Ken Montgomery My DeLorean VIN #10911 'OUTTIME' Sacramento, CA kenm(AT)csus.edu "When the wind gets under these wings Operating You will feel what freedom brings" Systems Analyst From 'On-Air' Alan Parsons (916) 278-7646 http://www.jps.net/arkham/delorean01.htm - -------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:31:20 -0400 From: Vicki Miller <"1000mil(AT)gte.net"(AT)gte.net> Subject: Re: DML: Engine swap
After being a GM mechanic for 20 + years (ie.. chevy)the beset route to go on a converson is to use a automatic chassie, toranto transmission and the chevy 4.3 v-6. this combination will fit the chassie with minor modifications and provide excellent proformance for much cheaper price, and be much easier to work on...any other suggestions or commments are welcome...delorean used to be a GM design engineer and ran chevy for a number of years........
bob miller 1000mil(AT)gte.net
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:03:43 -0500 From: Steve Brodsky <impact.auto(AT)airmail.net> Subject: Re: DML: unexpected shut off
John Murray wrote: > > Hello list, > > My 81 5spd cut off while driving. Had the A/C running radio on > and it died. Never any hint of this before. Aprox 30-40 minutes later > it started up fine. When it did cut off there was still power to the > door lights and interior lights only, no radio power, no a/c function, > no gauges, ingition did nothing. After I got it started, I limped it > home. I did not turn on the radio or a/c for fear of it happening > again. The car had no indication that anything was wrong, guages > functioning properly, wasnt over heated, plenty of volts.Anyone have any > suggestions, comments or even know what caused this? > > Bewildered.... > > John Murray > VIN# 2390 > FL Lic 81DMC12 just a guess, but i'd look at the iginition switch. ac and radio on probably had nothing to to with it, but they are tied to the switch where door lights are not.
steve 82- 10688
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 98 23:06:43 PDT From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody(AT)kih.net> Subject: Re: DML: unexpected shut off
> My 81 5spd cut off while driving. Had the A/C running radio on > and it died. Never any hint of this before. Aprox 30-40 minutes later > it started up fine. When it did cut off there was still power to the > door lights and interior lights only, no radio power, no a/c function, > no gauges, ingition did nothing. After I got it started, I limped it > home. I did not turn on the radio or a/c for fear of it happening > again. The car had no indication that anything was wrong, guages > functioning properly, wasnt over heated, plenty of volts.Anyone have any > suggestions, comments or even know what caused this?
Check the connections in the electrical box. Especially the ones going to the 2 large relays ( the 2 silver ones turned on their side). Also, check the harness connections under the steering column. you could also have a possible ignition switch going bad.
- -Brandon
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:21:15 -0400 From: Jeff Bruette <jbruette(AT)direcpc.com> Subject: DML: Tension bar adjustment
Ok. I know I am being daring just attempting this. But please, someone humor me.
How are the tension bars adjusted? I've looked at the service manual diagrams and also removed the cover plate that is above the real window. I see the tension bar retension plate.
I have an allen wrench that fits the slot in the tension bar. Do I need any other special tools?
What are the dangers? I have not removed the tension bar cover plates because I am afraid that the existing tension in the bars as enough to spin the plate and break the rear window. Is this a valid concern?
Is this a one man job or will it take a team of elephants to restore the proper tension?
I thank everyone in advance for their input.
And before you say it... Yes, I do know it is risky. I just don't know how risky it is.
Thanks, Jeff Bruette
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:30:35 -0400 From: Jeff Bruette <jbruette(AT)direcpc.com> Subject: DML: Turbo
What does it take to turbocharge a DeLorean? How much does it cost? How easy is it to retrofit? How good are the results?
Thanks, Jeff Bruette >From espeyj(AT)world.std.com Fri Jun 19 23:31:37 1998 Return-Path: <jbruette(AT)direcpc.com> Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.6/BZS-8-1.0) id XAA23546; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:31:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from geocities.com (mail8.geocities.com) by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA17242; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:31:36 -0400 Received: from direcpc.com (hh1126032.direcpc.com [206.71.126.32]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA18306 for <dmcnews(AT)world.std.com>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 20:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <358B2CDB.1CEB6817(AT)direcpc.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:30:35 -0400 From: Jeff Bruette <jbruette(AT)direcpc.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com Subject: Turbo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
What does it take to turbocharge a DeLorean? How much does it cost? How easy is it to retrofit? How good are the results?
Thanks, Jeff Bruette >From espeyj(AT)world.std.com Fri Jun 19 23:31:37 1998 Return-Path: <jbruette(AT)direcpc.com> Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.6/BZS-8-1.0) id XAA23546; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:31:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from geocities.com (mail8.geocities.com) by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA17242; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:31:36 -0400 Received: from direcpc.com (hh1126032.direcpc.com [206.71.126.32]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA18306 for <dmcnews(AT)world.std.com>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 20:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <358B2CDB.1CEB6817(AT)direcpc.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:30:35 -0400 From: Jeff Bruette <jbruette(AT)direcpc.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com Subject: Turbo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
What does it take to turbocharge a DeLorean? How much does it cost? How easy is it to retrofit? How good are the results?
Thanks, Jeff Bruette >From espeyj(AT)world.std.com Fri Jun 19 23:31:37 1998 Return-Path: <jbruette(AT)direcpc.com> Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.6/BZS-8-1.0) id XAA23546; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:31:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from geocities.com (mail8.geocities.com) by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA17242; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:31:36 -0400 Received: from direcpc.com (hh1126032.direcpc.com [206.71.126.32]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA18306 for <dmcnews(AT)world.std.com>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 20:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <358B2CDB.1CEB6817(AT)direcpc.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:30:35 -0400 From: Jeff Bruette <jbruette(AT)direcpc.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com Subject: Turbo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
What does it take to turbocharge a DeLorean? How much does it cost? How easy is it to retrofit? How good are the results?
Thanks, Jeff Bruette
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