Monday, June 22 1998 Volume 03 : Number 380
In this issue:
Re: DML: Cincinnatti pictures
Re: DML: unexpected shut off
DML: Re: unexpected shut off
DML: Re: New Owner #04419
Re: DML: unexpected shut off
DML: unexpected shut off
DML: Where we stand (model)
DML: parts !
DML: Logic Box
DML: Back from vacation
DML: JZD on VH1, etc.
DML: page six
Re: DML: Engine swap
DML: History Channel Poll
DML: Alternate Fuels
DML: DMC : Found a site that sells those Rare Delorean Books
DML: Side saddle
DML: Re: HTML Hint [was page six]
Re: DML: JZD on VH1, etc.
DML: BTTF DMC on FOX
Re: DML: Engine swap
Re: DML: Re: unexpected shut off
DML: Re: Tension bar adjustment
Re: DML: Turbo
DML: DeLorean Spoted
DML: Torsion bar adjustment....
DML: Unexpected shut-off
Re: DML: Side saddle
DML: Freehold New Jersey Cruise Night.
DML: price adjustment
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:32:21 -0400 From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4@osu.edu> Subject: Re: DML: Cincinnatti pictures
Sean,
Great pictures of the event, sorry I missed you when you were here. If
you've got the time, check out my page, which has been revised, and updated
to
include Cincy pix. it's at
http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/7139
I say if you've got the time, because my pictures take a while to load. By
the way the city's name is spelled Cincinnati.
Talk to you later,
Josh
Sean P Mullally wrote:
> I have some of my pictures from last week's event online in case anyone is > interested. They are on my web site at: http://www.msu.edu/~mullally/dmc > > -Sean Mullally > vin #3868
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:54:17 -0400 From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4@osu.edu> Subject: Re: DML: unexpected shut off
John,
This same thing happened to me when I was on the highway in my 85 Honda
Accord. I had the cruise control on and all the sudden I started losing
speed, like I had run out of gas, I pulled off to the side and the car
died. I tried to crank it once and there was nothing, it didn't even turn
over (but the lights were still on?!?). I waited about five minutes to try
and figure out what to do, and then tried it again...this time it started
right up and I drove another hundred miles without any problem, in fact that
was about a year and a half ago, and I've still had no trouble with it, like
that. I know the engine didn't overheat, because there is not only a guage,
but also a warning light and a loud beep that warn you if it's threatening
to do that. The only thing I can think of, was about a week before this
happened, I had the engine oil flushed and new oil added. When I say
flushed, I don't mean like an oil change...they ran some kind of fluid
through the engine to clean out any gunk, grim and steel splinters that had
built up, and then let it dry before refilling it. There was nothing wrong
with the engine before hand, it was kind of a preventitive maintenance
measure. If this is what caused the problem, I guess the lesson is: if it
ain't broke, don't fix it! The car now has 285,000 miles, and it will run
forever...but I'd trade it and my other two cars in a second for the chance
to own a DeLorean...I really admire you guys.
- -Josh
John Murray wrote:
> Hello list, > > My 81 5spd cut off while driving. Had the A/C running radio on > and it died. Never any hint of this before. Aprox 30-40 minutes later > it started up fine. When it did cut off there was still power to the > door lights and interior lights only, no radio power, no a/c function, > no gauges, ingition did nothing. After I got it started, I limped it > home. I did not turn on the radio or a/c for fear of it happening > again. The car had no indication that anything was wrong, guages > functioning properly, wasnt over heated, plenty of volts.Anyone have any > suggestions, comments or even know what caused this? > > Bewildered.... > > John Murray > VIN# 2390 > FL Lic 81DMC12
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 01:43:40 -0400 From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@att.net> Subject: DML: Re: unexpected shut off
John, You lost power to your accessory relay, you may have a bad connection or a defective relay. There are two silver colored relays located under the rear portion of your electrical panel behind the passenger seat. They are to the right of your door lock module. The relay with the two white wires with a blue strip is the accessory relay. These relays rarely go bad so check all the connections that are connected to it. Not to discount previous suggestions but your problem has nothing to do with anything located with the electric's behind the drivers seat or the alternator. Joe/DeLorean Services
- ---------- > From: John Murray <jwmurray@gate.net> > To: DMC News <dmcnews@world.std.com> > Subject: DML: unexpected shut off > Date: Friday, June 19, 1998 6:05 PM > > Hello list, > > My 81 5spd cut off while driving. Had the A/C running radio on > and it died. Never any hint of this before. Aprox 30-40 minutes later > it started up fine. When it did cut off there was still power to the > door lights and interior lights only, no radio power, no a/c function, > no gauges, ingition did nothing. After I got it started, I limped it > home. I did not turn on the radio or a/c for fear of it happening > again. The car had no indication that anything was wrong, guages > functioning properly, wasnt over heated, plenty of volts.Anyone have any > suggestions, comments or even know what caused this? > > Bewildered.... > > John Murray > VIN# 2390 > FL Lic 81DMC12 > >
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 01:55:01 -0400 From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@att.net> Subject: DML: Re: New Owner #04419
Richard, If you don't have a fuel baffle you'll have hesitation problems whenever your fuel tank is less than 1/4 full. You should be able to get all the components including the tank screen from P.G. Grady. Joe/DeLorean Services - ---------- > From: Richard J.Myosky <rjm@lrbcg.com> > To: dmcnews-digest@world.std.com > Subject: DML: New Owner #04419 > Date: Friday, June 19, 1998 1:57 AM > > As the new owner of a 1981 Delorean and just coming back from the > ralley in southern Ohio.It was a real treat to stop in Columbus at the > warehouse to purchase the parts (windshield,dash and more) and to see > the quanity of parts still on the market.The folks at the warehouse were > very helpful and took great pains to see that I got the best of the lot > when I picked out the parts that I needed.It is a shame,that I will not > be able to enjoy this privilege again,because of an idiot. > > I have been reading the digest version of this group for a couple of > months and have talked to some of you on the phone with my questions > regarding looking for my first Delorean purchase.Some of you I had a > chance to meet and thank in person while I was at the ralley last > weekend.I hope to have my car up and running before too long and get the > opportunity to meet the rest of the crowd which has offered much > help.Kathy and I were very impressed with the people and the cars that > made it to the show. > > The car has not been run since 1993 and I'm stripping down the fuel > system (gas tank ,new fuel pump,gas lines,filter,ect.).The mess in the > tank was unbelivable,but did clean up with repeated cleanings.I > understand that the fuel pump filter is no longer available.The one in > the tank fell apart in my hands.What other filter (brand or part#) would > you recommend to replace this filter and how long should this extend > into the tank. > > I have downloaded the parts manual from the net and purchased the > manual at the show.The parts manual shows a baffle setup which I found > no part of when I got into the tank? Was this part ever used and just > shown in the books or do I need to order one before I start putting > things back together. > > I have read most of the back issues of the digest and have failed to > find the answer.Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks > Richard J.Myosky #4419 >
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 02:58:32 EDT From: KayoOng@aol.com Subject: Re: DML: unexpected shut off
Do you have a "buddy battery" unit? If so that is your problem. See explanation further below.
If NOT, there maybe a problem in your charging system and the battery with the symptoms you just quoted. Check ALL of the charging system's components. The alternator, the battery including belts. Clean all electrical terminals on the alternator, battery, fuses, relays, etc. Clean especially the battery terminal so it so "shinny new" and on ALL of the mentioned units. Male and female terminals alike. To protect the clean terminals, use dielectric grease if you have, it is better then the petroleum base grease.
Check and CLEAN the GROUNDING connections at the chassis and at the engine's ground points. Rust, corrosion and dirt is an insulator. Check the terminal plugs and connectors under the left fender. Always wet there at times. Many wires there that is potential for electrical problems. Again use dielectric grease there and not the petroleum based grease if possible.
I once had the same problem of dying out. Occasionally my vehicle just "drops dead". I could not figure out the reason, until I removed the "buddy battery" unit. I had installed a NEW BATTERY and a "BATTERY BUDDY" at the same time, hoping to eliminate the dead battery condition during long periods of not using the vehicle.
My vehicle's charging system is good when IDLING, just around 14 volts with no electrical draw. I decided to remove the battery buddy, but I still had the same problem.
THE PROBLEM? The alternator just can't supply enough current to "run all" of the vehicle's electrical needs and to charge the battery during the vehicle's usage. My car used to "drop dead" anywhere when there is slow moving traffic because of this condition. Condition? OVERDRAWN on both the alternator and the battery.
There is also another inherited problem with many Deloreans. There is a low current draw which eventually leads to a low or discharged battery if the vehicle is not being used regularly. One main culprit is the CLOCK. Yes, my clock still works fine. That is the reason why many of us have installed a "battery buddy." Another solution is to use a main heavy duty battery ON and OFFswitch. This is big and difficult to mount. This topic or thread was posted earlier this spring.
For your info, when you have your A/C on, the engine slows down due to the A/C compressor being engaged. The alternator DOES NOT have full output on low RPMs. PLus you now have your interior blower fans on low, medium or high at this point. Again this is more electrical demand on the electrical system. Last, but not least, BOTH the radiator fans cuts on automatically by the wiring configuration of the A/C compressor clutch. Again, much heavier electrical demand, even with the FANZILLA, although the FANZILLA do help. Now, with the radio on, that is just about tapping out the alternator's output capacity. Within 15 mins. to 20 mins. in slow moving traffic. Your vehicle WILL SOON DROP DEAD!
Unless someone gives you a boost, or you have the "power pack unit" in your trunk at your convince for jumping the vehicle, at the jumper terminals (in front of the box that contains the ignition coil and electrical quick disconnects). SOMEONE, HELP YOU. PLEASE, SOMEONE HELP YOU!!!!!!!!!
In your case, after waiting 20 mins or longer, sometimes the "tired" battery will "spring" back to life just enough to start up the engine again. Since you did not exceed your alternator's output by turning on the A/C, you can made it home.
The Deloreans electrical conditions is even at its worst or compounded when you are driving at night with headlights on. You might as well FORGET ABOUT IT, if it is raining and you must have the wipers on. YOU WILL BE DEAD on the road unless you have a very, very, very good high capacity battery in good working condition and or with a good working high capacity output alternator other then the stock unit on the Delorean.
If you have a "battery buddy" this will happen sooner, for the battery is being discharged and it will sense this condition and shut down all electrical supply drawn from the battery. Again your vehicle will drop dead on the road. This is what the "battery buddy" is design to do. All you have to do is open your door and push the head light switch on and off several times and this will "shock or reset" the battery buddy out of operation. It is a pain, but it is a compromise.
I am going to get invovled in converting my charging system soon. My Delorean needs more electrical juice. The ignition also suffers too because of lack of electrical supplying the coil. Sluggish acceleration, etc, etc, etc.
Anyone with an AC Delco or any other alternator unit with a 100 plus amps capacity, INSTALLED or coververted in their Delorean who would like to share their experiences, please?
Kayo Ong #05508 Lic 9D NY
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 00:31:13 -0700 From: "lseiler@radiance.com" <lseiler@radiance.com> Subject: DML: unexpected shut off
At 06:05 PM 6/19/98 -0400, you wrote: >Hello list, > > My 81 5spd cut off while driving. Had the A/C running radio on >and it died. Never any hint of this before. Aprox 30-40 minutes later >it started up fine. When it did cut off there was still power to the >door lights and interior lights only, no radio power, no a/c function, >no gauges, ingition did nothing. After I got it started, I limped it >home. I did not turn on the radio or a/c for fear of it happening >again. The car had no indication that anything was wrong, guages >functioning properly, wasnt over heated, plenty of volts.Anyone have any >suggestions, comments or even know what caused this? > >Bewildered.... > >John Murray >VIN# 2390 >FL Lic 81DMC12 > reply:
Hello John,
You have a case of bad Car-ma! that's what you get for using my license plate ID.......wink<
Sorry john I just could not resist pulling your leg a bit......
In all seriousness I had a similar problem the first day I had my DMC, just running the engine in the driveway. my problem turned out to be dirty wiring connections. Finding them all and cleaning and greasing them all took months, of evenings and a few weekends. I am sure there are other possible solutions which our DML'ers will offer.
Good luck with the problem.
Lee 81DMC-12
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 01:11:29 -0700 From: "lseiler@radiance.com" <lseiler@radiance.com> Subject: DML: Where we stand (model)
<lseiler@pop1.systemv.com>; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 15:52:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Bixby, Web" <wbixby@kclife.com> To: lseiler@radiance.com Subject: Where do we stand? Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 17:40:42 -0500
First I am glad that you seem to be recovering well. I got the impression that your knee was scoped. My wife had that done 2 years ago (to both knees) and she is very glad she did it.
On to the model........
Whenever you are ready to start ship the model and start accepting payments I am ready......................................................... I will be purchasing , as they become available, the engine and the frame kits in addition to the car itself.
I am still looking to find a professional model maker to build my kit(s) but have not had much luck to this point . If you come across anyone please send them my way.
Your www site looks great and will develop over time. I look forward to seeing the bulletin board area get going.
Hope you get back on your feet real soon,
Web Bixby
reply:
(note) I am re posting this e-mail because I have had dozens of similar one's. I hope answering this one will be useful to every one interested.
Hi Web,
I am back home with a new knee, all puffed up and tender. Even so it actually feels better than before the surgery. Thanks for the worm thoughts.
On the models.......
Every one on the limited edition list will be notified when the kits are ready. Your kit will have your name, VIN, and License plate printed as part of the box art. Although I have not made any plans to make the frame and engine kits a limited edition like the body kit, They will be of the same quality and designed to combine with the limited edition.
The main justification for the kit bulletin board is to provide a way for you to find a suitable kit builder and to have access to the whole Internet of car modeling. The bulletin board will be registered with every model building, kit building, hobby and art forum, web site and search engine I can find. To date I have over a hundred positive responce of this kind that will provide links. I think at this point, once the board is open it won't take long for modelers to show up. At least in theory you will have the list of 100 to help with your project.
Lee 81DMC-12
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 98 10:39:07 PDT From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody@kih.net> Subject: DML: parts !
Few items I have for sale. More coming soon.
1) 2 seats. New Grey original style seat covers
just installed. Never been put back in a car
or sat on. $950 for the pair or I will remove the
covers and sell the covers for $450.
2) Engine AND Auto Transmission Assembly.
Has 52 K miles on it. I had it started about
3 months ago. Runs great, just didn't idle
very smooth (imagine that) . Everything is
included EXCEPT The fuel distributor ( which
you can just use your old one) Starter, compressor,
harness, fuel injectors, hoses , etc... included.
Transmission works just fine. $2900.00 For the
whole thing.
Send mail to BSMOODY@KIH.NET . DONT SEND MAIL TO THE LIST !!!
- -Brandon
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 13:06:01 -0500 From: scottmueller@zebra.net (Scott Mueller) Subject: DML: Logic Box
My thanks to Steve Wynne at DMC Houston for his assistance in getting my seat belt light working correctly. It turns out that the "Logic Box",buzzer, was defective. Steve helped me trouble shoot the circuits to narrow it down. I also took my old logic box to Duke Bladorns to verify its operation, it did not work correctly. Now, everything works on my car. I better find some wood to knock on pretty quick. I must say that Steve was very busy, but still took the time to hold my hand while trouble shooting. I was getting frustrated.
When I first installed the new logic box, I still did not get the seatbelt light, but the new box worked on Dukes car, it turned out that I was not getting a good connection in the plug. So I had two problems, a poor connection and a bad logic box.
This is a perfect example of how list members can help each other and the importance of a patient person like Steve Wynne who is only a phone call away.
Thanks again Steve and Duke.
Scott Mueller Vin 2981
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 98 12:08:31 -0000 From: James Espey <espey@dmcnews.com> Subject: DML: Back from vacation
After 4400 miles round trip (counting the side trips) I am back in Phoenix and weeding through 800+ email messages. I expect to be back in action on Monday - thanks for everyones patience.
James
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 16:11:33 EDT From: Iznodmad@aol.com Subject: DML: JZD on VH1, etc.
Hello all. While on my wonderful vacation at Atlantic Beach, NC; I saw JZD mentioned on a 30 minute show called "Pop Up Video" on VH1. I usually watch the show when it is on just b/c the info is interesting in the videos. What this show does is show pop-ups of info while music videos are playing. The video was "Road to Nowhere" by The Talking Heads. Obviously the whole video pop-ups had to deal with things going nowhere. Now I wasn't watching the show intently, I just happened to look up when the first bubble appeared. The 1st pop-up had a pic of John and the bubble said something like.............John Delorean's car company led to nowhere in 1982--but he had a plan. The 2nd bubble said something like this........to import cocaine to the US, but he was busted.
That was it, but I always keep my eye open for Deloreans and Delorean stuff. Not exactly the type of exposure to the man and car that I like to see, but it was pretty cool to see anyway.
I want to add something to the Matlock episode "The Lemon" as well. I saw this episode not too long ago, probably in March or so. I don't remember the exact station, I want to say it was UPN or something. I do remember it was aired at night. But what difference does that make? Anyway, the episode DOES have good shots of a D.
I also have a D sighting to report. There is a D at the "Car Toys" store on Stratford Rd in Winston-Salem, NC. I haven't had time to go by and look at it yet, but I think it is the same one that was there a couple of yrs ago. I looked at it then. The owner bought one and installed a TV/VCR, multi-speaker stereo, and neon lighting. I think it might have been for sale too, I just don't remember. Is this owner on the list?
Sorry this turned out to be so long. Thanks, Darren Decker VIN#......got to get rid of my boat first.
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 16:50:46 -0400 From: Josh Haldeman <haldeman.4@osu.edu> Subject: DML: page six
Dear List,
I forgot to mention that my photos from the Cincinnati Show are on
page six of my photo archive. Until I work out the bug in the html
code, you have to go to page five, and at the bottom there will be a
link to page six, if it comes back to tell you that the page doesn't
exist, go to the site address line and delete the final forward slash
from that line. Press enter again, and the page should load. I'll get
that problem solved soon I hope. Again sorry for the wait on the
picture loading, but in my opinion it's worth it.
Thanks,
Josh
The address of the page again is: http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/7139
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 21:37:31 -0400 From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: DML: Engine swap
What car's were these used in (recently)?
What is a A toranto transmission, is it for a rear facing engine like the delorean? or is it front wheel drive style? 5 speed or auto?
Any other specs on it? HP, weight, possible modifications or race applications?
Vicki Miller wrote: > > After being a GM mechanic for 20 + years (ie.. chevy)the beset route to > go on a converson is to use a automatic chassie, toranto transmission > and the chevy 4.3 v-6. this combination will fit the chassie with > minor modifications and provide excellent proformance for much cheaper > price, and be much easier to work on...any other suggestions or > commments are welcome...delorean used to be a GM design engineer and > ran chevy for a number of years........ > > bob miller > 1000mil@gte.net
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 21:47:01 -0700 From: Mostafa Sayed <phoenixl@ix.netcom.com> Subject: DML: History Channel Poll
Any word on which car won the award for greatest sports car ever?
Mostafa
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 00:47:32 -0700 From: "Robert A. Rooney" <DMCVegas@ix.netcom.com> Subject: DML: Alternate Fuels
Has Anyone here ever had any experience with propane or natural gas powered engines? Most all of North Las Vegas city and the gas company vehicles run on either one of the 2, and seem to do pretty good in both power & performance. In Vegas, LP stations are pretty easy to come by, but I have 2 questions about this, if you swith over, what are the pros & cons? Will you get better or worse performance from your engine? Can you drive farther or shorter distances on LP or natural gas. And lastly, as odd as this may sound, if there is no gas station in sight, (or at least one that has LP) could you fill up at a Barbecue store? Just (seriously) asking.
- -Robert
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 11:59:50 EDT From: Spider2522@aol.com Subject: DML: DMC : Found a site that sells those Rare Delorean Books
http://members.aol.com/spider2522/FrameSet1.html or if u can;t find it try http://members.aol.com/spider2522/damazon.html
here u can buy De Lorean : Stainless Steel Illusion and a whole bunch of othere delorean books i have never heard of i'm still waiting for my three books i ordered A good addition to anyone coolection of Delorean Stuff
:^)
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 09:53:27 -0700 From: "lseiler@radiance.com" <lseiler@radiance.com> Subject: DML: Side saddle
Hi to All:
Well I am back from my post-op visit and gave back the crutches loaned to me by a wife's friend. I want to thank every one for all the cards and e-mail letters, it really is very nice to know people do care.
On to DMC stuff..........
I wished I could have driven to Ohio and been there with all you guys', but I have enjoyed all the accounts and the pictures referred to here on the DML. The very fact that we all function threw the DML like a big family reflects a truth here, the DMC was a dream come true and has become a very special machine, owned and continued by very special people.
I just love the "Sports Car" thread currently floating on the surface right now. I know that every time I munch a 911 or 928 I will muse the "Sports Car" question! Yes I do like the power cure.....a Lot!
For any one considering mixing tire brands or using the same sized tires front and back....Don't. Although I only had a few weeks between the time I finished lowering the front end and sitting side saddle, I can say with out hesitation that using the right sized, and right type of tire makes a world of difference in tracking, cornering and stopping.
Speaking of which, if you are interested the tires used on the BTTF DMC in the film were Pirelli Cinturato P7 225/50VR15 and 280/50VR15 . After seeing the film a zillion times on TV I always wondered what it was that made it look odd, I finally see it is that the wheels used give it the nose up look.
Later..............
Lee 81DMC-12
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:31:32 -0600 From: "Gremlin" <gremlin@gremlin.net> Subject: DML: Re: HTML Hint [was page six]
I know this isn't a hypertext how-to list, but one thing I might recommend in general is having thumbnails or links on the main pages of these websites, and leaving the bigger images to be found by clicking on something. It would make things load a lot faster in general. By thumbnail, I mean a second, smaller image [probably with only 16 colours] that represents the bigger one, and not just the bigger one squished into a smaller box =)
Great snaps, in any case. Particularly modified1.jpg, which I think you forgot to put on the page itself. I wish I could have attended the show.
- --Gremlin gremlin@gremlin.net http://gremlin.net
>Dear List, > I forgot to mention that my photos from the Cincinnati Show are on >page six of my photo archive. Until I work out the bug in the html >code, you have to go to page five, and at the bottom there will be a >link to page six, if it comes back to tell you that the page doesn't >exist, go to the site address line and delete the final forward slash >from that line. Press enter again, and the page should load. I'll get >that problem solved soon I hope. Again sorry for the wait on the >picture loading, but in my opinion it's worth it. > Thanks, > Josh > >The address of the page again is: >http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/7139 >
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 18:32:37 -0400 From: Sean Jones <shain@noln.com> Subject: Re: DML: JZD on VH1, etc.
Hello,
My mom saw somethign similar. But in a bubble it said that he stopped making DeLoreans in 1984. Then there was a bunhc of DeLorean on the screen, and it said that it's hard getting fingerprints off dem DeLoreans.
Sean
Iznodmad@aol.com wrote:
> Hello all. While on my wonderful vacation at Atlantic Beach, NC; I saw JZD > mentioned on a 30 minute show called "Pop Up Video" on VH1. I usually watch > the show when it is on just b/c the info is interesting in the videos. What > this show does is show pop-ups of info while music videos are playing. The > video was "Road to Nowhere" by The Talking Heads. Obviously the whole video > pop-ups had to deal with things going nowhere. Now I wasn't watching the > show > intently, I just happened to look up when the first bubble appeared. The > 1st > pop-up had a pic of John and the bubble said something like.............John > Delorean's car company led to nowhere in 1982--but he had a plan. The 2nd > bubble said something like this........to import cocaine to the US, but he > was > busted. > > That was it, but I always keep my eye open for Deloreans and Delorean stuff. > Not exactly the type of exposure to the man and car that I like to see, but > it > was pretty cool to see anyway. > > I want to add something to the Matlock episode "The Lemon" as well. I saw > this episode not too long ago, probably in March or so. I don't remember > the > exact station, I want to say it was UPN or something. I do remember it was > aired at night. But what difference does that make? Anyway, the episode > DOES > have good shots of a D. > > I also have a D sighting to report. There is a D at the "Car Toys" store on > Stratford Rd in Winston-Salem, NC. I haven't had time to go by and look at > it > yet, but I think it is the same one that was there a couple of yrs ago. I > looked at it then. The owner bought one and installed a TV/VCR, > multi-speaker > stereo, and neon lighting. I think it might have been for sale too, I just > don't remember. Is this owner on the list? > > Sorry this turned out to be so long. > Thanks, > Darren Decker > VIN#......got to get rid of my boat first.
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:50:20 -0700 From: bpayne@macnet.com (Brandon J. Payne) Subject: DML: BTTF DMC on FOX
While watching televison on Saturday morning, there was this show called "Gotcha" (like Candid Camera only worse). Anyway, the host, Paul Rodruguez was standing if front of the Back to the Future DeLorean and telling really bad jokes. It was a great shot of the Delorean but unfortunately not for a very long time. - ---------------Brandon J. Payne--------------- - ----------(the "J" is for "Jenius")-----------
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:36:22 -0400 From: Vicki Miller <"1000mil@gte.net"@gte.net> Subject: Re: DML: Engine swap
Marc A Levy wrote: > > What car's were these used in (recently)? > > What is a A toranto transmission, is it for a rear facing engine like > the delorean? or is it front wheel drive style? 5 speed or auto? > > Any other specs on it? HP, weight, possible modifications or race > applications? > > >they were used in oldsmoblies, in the late 70's. I believed Mr delorean designed the transmission, it was a three speed automatic, thhe motors in the cars faced forward. and had 300 horse power, the motor i want to use is a chevy v--6 4.3 liter with a carb. and dual point dist. that was you dont have to worry about fuel injection and will run for a long time. i will keep every one updated onn this project... any one have a automatic frame with a shifter for sale???????????
bob miller 1000mil@gte.net
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:14:28 EDT From: JSteuben@aol.com Subject: Re: DML: Re: unexpected shut off
Dear Joe, Here's another one for you.If I crack the doors, the time delay on the courtsey lights work fine. But, if I actually get in the car and close the door...they almost never work. I've upgraded the relay and cleaned the connectors. Any suggestions would help to cure one of those 'little' things that can drive one crazy. Many thanks, Joe (vin 1273)
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 16:29:21 -0400 From: "Joe " <dmcjoe@att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Tension bar adjustment
Jeff, Yes; you will break the rear window if you remove the torsion bar retainer plate bolts. Order yourself a copy of DeLorean World No. 10 in it you will find a step by step article to do a safe and proper bar adjustment. In reference to that article I suggest you completely remove your sun shade. By doing this you will not need to construct a jig. Joe/DeLorean Services - ---------- > From: Jeff Bruette <jbruette@direcpc.com> > To: dmcnews@world.std.com > Subject: DML: Tension bar adjustment > Date: Friday, June 19, 1998 11:21 PM > > Ok. I know I am being daring just attempting this. But please, someone > humor me. > > How are the tension bars adjusted? I've looked at the service manual > diagrams and also removed the cover plate that is above the real window. > I see the tension bar retension plate. > > I have an allen wrench that fits the slot in the tension bar. Do I need > any other special tools? > > What are the dangers? I have not removed the tension bar cover plates > because I am afraid that the existing tension in the bars as enough to > spin the plate and break the rear window. Is this a valid concern? > > Is this a one man job or will it take a team of elephants to restore the > proper tension? > > I thank everyone in advance for their input. > > And before you say it... Yes, I do know it is risky. I just don't know > how risky it is. > > Thanks, > Jeff Bruette
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:20:28 -0400 From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: DML: Turbo
Not sure what the current cost it, but just buy the kit and slap it on!
I am pretty happy with my "Island Turbo" kit. Give Elenore Rogers, or PJ grady a call to order it.
Lots of info on this in the archives. Check it out!
Jeff Bruette wrote: > > What does it take to turbocharge a DeLorean? How much does it cost? How > easy is it to retrofit? How good are the results? > > Thanks, > Jeff Bruette
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:54:35 EDT From: GullwingD@aol.com Subject: DML: DeLorean Spoted
I was watching this old 80's talk show, that aired on TV. and they were talking about with Harrison Ford about his Movie Indiana Jones. They were talking in a park of some sort. in the back ground there was cars passing by, ( a little traffic). But at the part that the host says " So, what are your plans for the future?" you clearly see the Time Machine DeLorean from the first BttF movie. I was shoked at first, then i was thinking what a coincedince. Did anyone ever see this?
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 13:41:07 -0500 From: "Jameel Ahed" <ahed@uiuc.edu> Subject: DML: Torsion bar adjustment....
I was very afraid to do this, and I am pretty daring... :-) I had Rob Grady do the job among other things when I went there a few weeks ago. Rob is great! Jameel
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:01:18 -0500 From: "Hershey, Mark" <MHershey@obiwan.Intecom.com> Subject: DML: Unexpected shut-off
John Murray wrote:
> Hello list, > > My 81 5spd cut off while driving. Had the A/C running radio on > and it died. Never any hint of this before. Aprox 30-40 minutes later > it started up fine. (snip)
John, of course could be any of a number of things. Probably electrical in your case. Here's something to look for to determine if it is electrical vs. fuel delivery: When cranking the engine, watch the tachometer. It should twitch slightly while cranking. If so, the distributor pickup and ECU module (behind the driver's seat) are probably OK and getting power. The ignition coil is probably getting power, too, so the problem would most likely be fuel-related if you see a twitch at all.
If it doesn't twitch, check the owners' manual for the fuse feeding the ignition system. Pull the fuse and burnish the blades- sometimes heat buildup in the fuse panel area will cause the connection to open temporarily. Heats up more in there with the A/C fan running on speed 3 or 4,(there's a circuit breaker in there that runs rather hot) so there could be a correlation there.
I had a (hopefully) unusual problem with mine: the electronic pickup inside the distributor (officially called a distributor fly lead) would open, killing spark (no tach twitch), but only at a certain temperature range! Engine compartment heat would rise after about 5-7 minutes and it would be OK. Finally tracked it down by waiting for the car to die, than using an ohmmeter to verify the coil was open. I'd sit with the meter until the guage needle would suddnly show continuity, then plug the thing back into its wiring harness and start her up! You have to pull the distributor to fix it, so look elsewhere first... rather nasty job on a DMC.
If you trace back and start suspecting this part, E-mail me for more details on connecting up a test meter.
Mark Hershey DMC VIN 2790 with @#$%$#@ Fender Antenna!
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:54:56 +0100 From: "Martin Gutkowski (UK)" <msg101@york.ac.uk> Subject: Re: DML: Side saddle
I'm not convinced :-) If you watch the bit where Doc Brown is controlling the car with einstein in it and pause it at the right moment, you can clearly see "Goodyear Eagle GT". Incidentally, for the bit where the rear wheels are spinning away on the spot, did you know they had to jack the back of the car up?
Also the bit at the end when Marty gets out to put the connecting pole in the top, the front has obviously been lowered.
I know there were more than a few cars used in the films... just watching the first film, try keeping track of whether there are lines on the bonnet from scene to scene...
Cheerio all,
Martin
lseiler@radiance.com wrote:
> Speaking of which, if you are interested the tires used on the BTTF > DMC in > the film were Pirelli Cinturato P7 225/50VR15 and 280/50VR15 . After > seeing the film a zillion times on TV I always wondered what it was that > made it look odd, I finally see it is that the wheels used give it the nose > up look. > > Later.............. > > Lee > 81DMC-12
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:36:37 -0400 From: Marc A Levy <malevy@dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: DML: Freehold New Jersey Cruise Night.
The last thursday of every month in the summer, there is a large cruise night in Freehold, NJ.
I usually make it 2 or 3 times over the summer with my DMC, and last year we had 3 Deloreans there one night and attracted a bit of attention! (Wow! 3 car's seems like nothing after Cincinnati!)
This thursday (6/25/97) is one of those nights. I dont think I will be able to make this one, but maybe you can!
I'll try and make the next one...
Marc
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:06:28 -0500 From: "Stephen Pitre" <SPitre@lasccoa.state.la.us> Subject: DML: price adjustment
I thought the recent robbery in Houston was pretty bad but after I got = calls from people saying that my asking price for a Delorean at 27, 000 = was downright criminal, I thought I committed a more heanous crime. So = after taking all of your comments at heart, I=27ve decided that I can let = this 1981 grey interior auto trans VIN 5218 with 5, 041 miles go at around = =2416, 000. I know I said before its been sitting around, but covered for = 14 or so years. But we spent a lot of money bringing this thing back to = life. Still looking for the original sales sticker. Serious inquiries = invited. Any further suggestions on price welcomed. Thanks again.
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