Friday, June 26 1998 Volume 03 : Number 382
In this issue:
DML: Re: Temperature rise on freeway
DML: Re: Alternator Problems?
Re: DML: Re: unexpected shut off
Re: DML: [admin] DML, DeLorean Owners Directory, new 'zine, and
DML: CHICAGO CAR FOR SALE
Re: DML: Re: unexpected shut off
DML: Temperature rise on freeway
Re: DML: Temperature rise on freeway
DML: VIN #2932, I've got your frame....
Re: DML: New DeLoreans
RE: DML: Alternate Fuels
Re: DML: car show stats
DML: computer probs
Re: DML: Back in the saddle (hot seat?) again...
DML: Alternate fuels
DML: Door Torsion Bar Adjustment Procedure
DML: Brake pedal
DML: British Car Show
DML: Windsheild Washer Motor
Re: DML: Inspector Gadget's DeLorean?
Re: DML: Back in the saddle (hot seat?) again...
Re: DML: Temperature rise on freeway
DML: Finaly got it!
DML: Replacement for windshield washer motor
DML: DeLorean Desktop Theme Updates
DML: need a part.
DML: RE: parts for sale
Re: DML: VIN #2932, I've got your frame....
DML: RE: Finally got it!
DML: Re: Brake pedal
Re: DML: Door Torsion Bar Adjustment Procedure
DML: Movie DMC's
RE: DML: Door Torsion Bar Adjustment Procedure
Re: DML: Re: unexpected shut off
Re: DML: VIN #2932, I've got your frame....
DML: Alternative Seats
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 21:29:01 -0400 From: "Joe " <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Temperature rise on freeway
Dave, This is an unusual problem, It's usually the other way around; i.e.: O.K. at highway speeds and rising temperature in town and when exiting the freeway. I suggest you replace the thermostat thoroughly air bleed the system and see if that corrects the problem. Joe/DeLorean Services
- ---------- > From: Dave.Sontos(AT)cooperauto.com > To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Subject: DML: Temperature rise on freeway > Date: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 9:00 AM > > I've noticed that my temperature guage climbs to around 200+ when I'm > driving > the freeway speed 60-70 mph. When I am in town temperature is rock solid > 150. > I've checked for air in the pump, the coolant bottle has about 1-1/2" -2" > of > air in it, A/C is in Normal position, fans ARE running. Car is automatic > with > original radiator (?) w/100,000 miles. > > When I exit freeway, temp returns to normal in 5-10 minutes. I am assuming > this is NOT normal. Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Dave > VIN 2573
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 21:20:53 -0400 From: "Joe " <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Subject: DML: Re: Alternator Problems?
Daniel, Get rid of the Ducillier immediately! This alternator which is partly to blame for poor sales of the car in the early 80's is grossly under powered. With a full electrical load your electrical system is pulling about 86 amps which exceeds the limit if the 80 amp Ducy'. The diodes in this alternator are also rather small. Replacement Delco's and Motorolas are available from several DeLorean vendors. After you replace the alternator if your still having stalling problems let me know. Joe/DeLorean Services
- ---------- > From: Daniel McGauley <hawkeye(AT)creativeworlds.com> > To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Subject: DML: Alternator Problems? > Date: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 3:36 AM > (SNIP) > First off, I have a brand new Ducy Alternator 80amp. It's new, but from > what I understand, underpowered for our cars. > > When I'm driving at night, quite often my lights inside and out quiver > bright to dim and back again in a sinusodial type of pattern. Even if I > shut everything off, I get the same effect. This is a semi-recent problem.
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 22:01:35 -0400 From: "Joe " <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Subject: Re: DML: Re: unexpected shut off
Joe, The brake light circuit is an isolated circuit with two controlling switches, one at the parking brake handle the other is in the brake reservoir tank. Disconnect the one at the brake handle and see what happens. You access this switch by pulling off the trim carpet at the brake handle and unplug the wire running to the switch. Joe/DeLorean Services
- ---------- > From: JSteuben(AT)aol.com > To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Subject: Re: DML: Re: unexpected shut off > Date: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 10:27 AM > > Thanks Joe, > > Here's another one for you. I have an automatic trannie and everytime I > hand > shift it, reverse, low, ect., the seatbelt light in the instrument cluster > comes on for about 15 seconds????? I know it ain't a biggie, but if you > have > any ideas I would be greatfull. Thanks again, Joe (vin1273)
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 23:38:09 EDT From: KayoOng(AT)aol.com Subject: Re: DML: [admin] DML, DeLorean Owners Directory, new 'zine, and
more! Sender: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com Precedence: list Reply-To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com
As a Delorean owner and a subscriber to the DML, I would like to THANK YOU for your personal great efforts and pursuits in keeping all if this alive.
I did not know who you were until I met you at the Cincinnati's Meet, even though I know of you through this DML site. Now that I have meet you in personal, you are a good man. You, like the others are Good People, just like Mr. Ken Koncelik who held the event, plus all the OTHERS (that is too long to list here) that was involved in this historical event. Again, thanking you all in giving all us this great time.
For all of you who did not make it to Cincinnati Meet it was a great one. If you did not attend you have missed a red letter date in the history of this great marque. I was told, or as the rumor goes, that this was the SECOND largest gathering of Delorean motorcars and people in the Delorean's history that was held in the USA. By now this should be a fact???
By the way, for those of you who do not know Mr. James Espey, he is the moderator of this site. He is instrumental in giving out materials in keeping both the DML and the DMC marque alive. Some of this valuable materials was for free at the event, at no cost to us. FREE MATERIALS!!! What a great contribution to all of the DMC owners, the admirers, and to all DMLer's. All of us who logs onto DML site have taken all of his efforts for granted!
Mr. James Espey, I personal think that you deserve a trophy or an award and more, for your effort in doing what you are doing in get out to all this great "stuff" to us. What a commitment!!! Respect to where respect is due. You got my respect.
Incidentally, I love your "advertisement" on your personal Delorean that you have driven to the meet. It says: "www.dmcnews.com". Now, all the non- Delorean owners, admirers and curious folks have a place to seek "correct and truthful" answers about the marque and their owners.
It was a sight to see that late Friday afternoon, Mr. Espey's Delorean pulling up the hotel driveway with all the material, PACKED and FILLED. (He just made it on time.) He even hauled it from his hometown, Scottsdale, Arizona to Cincinnati, Ohio - too!!! What a task! That is a job in itself. Driving miles after miles. He remind me in my younger days when I was involved in my....................Anyway, this is the material Mr. Espey "gave away" during the 3 day event.
There were other materials that he also sold to GENERATE MONEY FOR HIS OPERATIONAL COST. YES FOLKS, PLEASE HELP HIS CAUSE, THIS WHOLE CAUSE! BUY HIS MATERIAL, BUY HIS STUFF!!!!!!!!! Order them now. Buy them early, buy them often. If you already have them, give them away and buy them again. Help the Mr. James Espey and the DML site.
Again, Mr. Espey, thank you and keep up the good work!!!!!!!
P.S. Mr. Espey wish you were on my team in my other endeavors and pursuits.
Kayo Ong #05508 Lic 9D NY
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:05:46 -0500 From: Gowler Don-CFPO01 <cfpo01(AT)email.mot.com> Subject: DML: CHICAGO CAR FOR SALE
There is a 1981 DELOREAN for sale in Chicago VIN #02777 4,760 miles Automatic Black interior Asking $18,000 Phone Greg James at (773) 774-6770
Regards, The Silver Fox
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:06:35 EDT From: JSteuben(AT)aol.com Subject: Re: DML: Re: unexpected shut off
Thanks Joe, but it's the seatbelt light, not the brake light. Best regards, Joe
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:22:40 -0700 From: "Grimsrud, Knut S" <knut.s.grimsrud(AT)intel.com> Subject: DML: Temperature rise on freeway
Dave.Sontos(AT)cooperauto.com wrote:
> I've noticed that my temperature guage climbs to around 200+ > when I'm driving the freeway speed 60-70 mph. When I am in > town temperature is rock solid 150.
This may sound pretty stupid, but on occasion the cooling fans may have their polarity reversed in which case they blow air forward through the radiator instead of sucking it through. At highway speeds the air flow from the cooling fans counter the natural flow from the car's motion. Although this is only a theory, it's a quick thing to check out whether the fans are blowing properly.
Knut
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:58:56 -0700 From: "lseiler(AT)radiance.com" <lseiler(AT)radiance.com> Subject: Re: DML: Temperature rise on freeway
At 08:00 AM 6/23/98 -0500, you wrote: >I've noticed that my temperature guage climbs to around 200+ when I'm >driving >the freeway speed 60-70 mph. When I am in town temperature is rock solid >150. >I've checked for air in the pump, the coolant bottle has about 1-1/2" - 2" >of >air in it, A/C is in Normal position, fans ARE running. Car is automatic >with >original radiator (?) w/100,000 miles. > >When I exit freeway, temp returns to normal in 5-10 minutes. I am assuming >this is NOT normal. Any suggestions? > >Thanks, >Dave >VIN 2573 > reply:
Your temp problem is just backwards of the usual, just ram pressure should improve cooling. Unless you are running at very high RPM at low road speed, I can't imagine what the problem is. I am going to be very interested to see what it turns out to be.
Lee 81DMC-12
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:31:05 -0600 From: Greg Guillot <gguillot(AT)mccno.com> Subject: DML: VIN #2932, I've got your frame....
A week or so ago, Scott Meuller mentioned the location of a possible VIN number on his instrument cluster that he saw when he removed the cluster. The vin number was a few numbers off from his actual VIN. The other day, I removed the rear bumper cover and impact absorber and found "2932" written in Irish black permanent ink ; ) on the rear of my car's frame (VIN 2926). Again, a number a few off from my actual VIN. While I'm sure this is totally useless information, I find it to be a small glimpse into how cars were assembled at the factory, and why our cars are each a little bit different.
************************************************ Morial Convention Center - New Orleans Greg Guillot, Director of Info Systems & Services 900 Convention Center Blvd,New Orleans, LA 70130 Phone (504) 582-3116,Fax (504) 582-3104 Email gguillot(AT)mccno.com ************************************************
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:19:10 -0400 From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: DML: New DeLoreans
He is better off getting a "Restored" delorean from PJ Grady!
Low milage DeLoreans usualy do not have all the upgrades, and require a lot of work to make them safe and reliable.
My83DMC(AT)aol.com wrote: > > Dear DML, > I have a question. A friend of mine has a cousin who owns > a > dealership for new Miscellanous Exotic Cars. (i.e. Lamborginis, ect).. He > has > 1 DeLorean there, unfortunately, it is not running.. He wanted me to post > on > the DML and find out if there are any *NEW* DeLoreans.. New meaning less > that > 200 to 300 mileage, near mint condition, ect. He is looking to buy about > 3 or > 4, and will pay at least 32,000 for each one, depending on condition. His > dealership is in the Dallas area, it is called Stanley Exotic Automobiles > Co. > > Does anyone on the list know of any DeLoreans like the > desciption mentions? Or, can DMC of Houston manufacture DeLorean from the > parts they have? > > Any help or comments would be greatly appreciated! >
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:50:45 -0800 From: "tomcio" <tomcio(AT)goplay.com> Subject: RE: DML: Alternate Fuels
Hi, In Poland (that's where I'm from) we have a lot of cars running on gas. You can get gas almost on every gas station. (propane gas, that is) You can convert any car for about $700. They add an aditional tank and you kaap your existing gas tank. They also install a little switch somewhere inside the car, so when you run out of gas, all you have to do is switch to gasoline and you don't even have to slow down or stop. When you run on propane gas you don't need anything for the emissions control. The ECU is disabled at that time. Gas burnes much cleaner and because it is gas (not liquid) there is no deposits inside the engine. But, there is a catch. When you run on propane gas the car burns about 10% more propane than gasoline, and you loose about 10% of the horsepower. In Poland a lot of people do those conversions because gasoline is very expensive in europe. Propane costs about 50% cheaper. If someone is interested in getting a conversion kit please let me know. I can look around and find something good. I will convert my car as soon as I ship it to Poland. I will charge for whatever I pay for the kit plus shipping. Hope this helps, and if you have any question email me directly at tomciodmc(AT)usa.net. I did some work on converted cars and I know how it works. Thanks. Tom VIN 6298
"Robert A. Rooney" <DMCVegas(AT)ix.netcom.com> wrote on Monday June 22, 1998 at 7:27am: >Has Anyone here ever had any experience with propane or natural gas >powered engines? Most all of North Las Vegas city and the gas company >vehicles run on either one of the 2, and seem to do pretty good in both >power & performance. In Vegas, LP stations are pretty easy to come by, >but I have 2 questions about this, if you swith over, what are the pros >& cons? Will you get better or worse performance from your engine? Can >you drive farther or shorter distances on LP or natural gas. And lastly, >as odd as this may sound, if there is no gas station in sight, (or at >least one that has LP) could you fill up at a Barbecue store? Just >(seriously) asking. > >-Robert
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:59:52 -0400 From: Steve <dmc(AT)fdt.net> Subject: Re: DML: car show stats
On Mon, 15 Jun 1998 KKoncelik(AT)aol.com wrote:
> Friday Gregory Center Dinner 145 people > Saturday Museum Banquet 194 people > total people (some did not come to sat. banquet) > approx. 216 plus the general public. > DELOREANS "71"
Plus I counted 21 Deloreans (including the one on a trailer) on the caravan to Columbus, can anyone confirm that number? (I may have missed a few)
Thanks to Ken, James, Stephen, and everybody else who organized and participated making this event well worth the drive from Florida!
-Steve <dmc(AT)fdt.net> VIN 017117
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:24:27 -0500 From: "Stephen Pitre" <SPitre(AT)lasccoa.state.la.us> Subject: DML: computer probs
I recently posted a =22price adjustment=22 ad. This software I am using = is having trouble interacting with the net. Thus I will write out the = numbers instead. I mean to state that twenty seven thusand was unreasonabl= e price for my 1981 Delorean and I believe that sixteen thousand is a more = reasonable price. Comments and inquiries welcome. Please refer to the = =22price adjustment=22 ad posted recently. As to the theft, I meant = Cincinnati and not Houston but I can not blame that goof up on the = software. =20
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:20:25 EDT From: KayoOng(AT)aol.com Subject: Re: DML: Back in the saddle (hot seat?) again...
Marc,
Hi Marc, this Kayo. Suggestion for you. Try using sheep skin covers. Expensive. They do an varies multi duties in helping you in during your travels.
Before I got the sheep skin covers, my wife and I took a trip from NYC to Raleigh, NC two years ago. When I got out of our Delorean, WOW -- my butt, my back. It was tough on the both of us. I did all the driving. My wife as a passenger hurt too.
Since we had to work as soon as we got out of the car, it was even tougher. I didn't feel refresh or ready to work. Since this was work, my paying audience didn't want to hear about it. In the past I had done this trip before in my Bentley, no problemo. Right after that trip I ordered from Delorean One, a set of sheep skin covers. I installed it immediately when I received them. Results, "feels" great. Very well worth the money.
Last year, March we went to Atlanta, GA in the Delorean. It was almost just as a long drive as to Raleigh, NC. Anyway, no discomfort on that trip, it was almost just as comfortable as the Bentley. The difference is the leg alignment in the Delorean. It is difficult to get used to due to the angle where the gas tank's contours makes your leg "sit that way". That will affect your lower back.
Change your present seating arrangement with the original DMC seats. Change the length and angle your of your seat versus your body alignment. If you "lost" that "cushion" or "filling" in your original DMC seats, your back and butt will hurt! Must fill in all that lost support.
FYI. I don't think Recardo seat fits? If so, it will take too much modifications to do so. It will give you a new seat arrangement to "get use to."
Hope that helps. Anyone on seats?
Kayo Ong #05508 Lic. 9D NY
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:12:37 +1200 From: "Richard Mazur" <richard(AT)rhl.co.nz> Subject: DML: Alternate fuels
Yes you can run your Delorean on Compressed natural gas or LPG, but I must wonder why you would want to. In New Zealand we went through a spate of converting vehicles to either of the two systems but petrol here is $2.20 US per gallon, I would imagine it would not be that expensive in the US.
Pros and cons.
1) CNG is far cheaper than LPG as a gas, however vehicles loose a considerable amount of power maybe as much as 30 %, a full tank will only travel 100 miles.
2) LPG is marginally cheaper than petrol and when you take in the cost of the conversion is often ignored as an option. A full tank of LPG will cost around 2/3 of the price of a tank of petrol and will travel the same distance, around 250 miles. Performance is on par with petrol.
3) because both fuels are gas when they reach the engine, cold starting and running problems are eliminated, if you have auto choke on your D you will need to remove it. The mixer unit which will have to be installed above your carburator is 4-5 inches high so you will need to ensure you have clearance and room for the other control equiptment.
4) Tanks are heavy when full and in your D you will be installing fairly high above the front suspension, this is going to severely alter the handling characteristics and severely limit luggage space.
5) Gass is dry so you will periodically need to run on petrol to lubricate valves and carburator.
6) both fuels will burn your valve seats over a period of time, in NZ we install a special hard seat to reduce this efect.
7) both fuels have a corrosive effect on mains and big end bearings, sufficient traces get into the oil to do damamge so regualr oil changes are essential. One of the interesting side effects is that your oil stays clean, I have seen engines that have travelled 50,000 miles without an oil change and you could have emptied the oil out of the sump and sold it as new. It really is that clean burning, bad news is that people often don't do the oil changes because it looks so good. The oil changes are essential.
8) you will need to cut holes in your D for gas lines to pass through and I think anyone would find it hard to do this without shedding a tear.
9) in NZ cars that have been running on CNG or LPG are worth considerably less at resale time.
finally:
dont do it.
Regards
Richard Mazur New Zealand
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:36:25 -0700 From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf(AT)bmi.net> Subject: DML: Door Torsion Bar Adjustment Procedure
Usually when I see a request for something I know about, I wait for ten = other people to give their responses. This time I have just finished = the Door Torsion Bar adjustment and thought it might be timely for me to = comment.
First of all, there may be a lot of us, like ME who are thousands of = miles from the nearest DeLorean service center who have no choice but to = do this adjustment themselves or continue to "help" the doors up by hand = and try to hold it there while you clamber in! I know a lot of clubs = have the equipment and meetings and seminars where this is done easily.
I would suggest getting hold of the DeLorean World magazine Volume 3, = Number 4 (Winter 1986). This has complete photographic pictorial = information as well as written instructions and diagrams, that are = invalulable. If you do exactly as they say, you can do the job. =20
I would suggest you stick with their list of tools and not substitute = unless something is STRONGER. For example they suggest using 1/2 inch = drive tools. Those are a bit harder to find as they are for very heavy = duty use. It is tempting to use 3/8 drive stuff which is usually = readily availble either to buy or rent or borrow. There is a = tremendous amount of torque developed by those torsion bars and I would = not want to take a chance. I had to buy some of the stuff and borrowed = a couple items and also bought a 5 foot length of one inch pipe to put = over the "breaker" bar. THAT leverage is really nice to have available. = I have been told it takes 200 pounds of pressure to move that bar! =20
I had a retired shop owner mechanic friend help me....we are about the = same age and work at the same speed....slow and careful. The wood jig = is a must for this system, but it is easy to build and not expensive. = I figured that even if it cost me something for the tools, they will all = be available for another time. I would add one bit of a caution note in = the procedure and that is to be sure the 3/8 allen socket is fully in = the Torsion Bar end and keep some inward pressure on it when you are = working with it, so it will not slip out...THAT is when you bust your = rear window!!=20
We even did a little "dry run" with everything in place to sort of = practice....I have seen so many horror stories about this operation that = we were pretty gun shy and took it slow and easy. =20
The bottom line, is that when I started, my drivers door would lack = about a foot of going to the full limit when the latch was triggered. = The passenger door would only come out a few inches and needed help ALL = the way up. If I had a passenger, I always "let them in and out" !!=20 We moved the drivers door just ONE Notch on the grooves or serrations = and moved the passengers door two notches. (NEVER do more than one = notch at a time) This was perfect. Both doors now float all the way to = the top. On a cold day they just barely make it and on a hot day = sitting in the sun they will just lightly hit the top extreme..I usually = try to slow it down by hand if it is a hot day, just to be cautious = about any chance of it "banging" up there and twisting that frame. =20
The first try took us quite a while, but the second was much faster and = now that we know what we are doing, it could easily be done in a few = minutes. =20
I guess the most difficult part of it all, was one person getting the = tension with the long 5 foot pipe extension to the right position so the = other person could get the two bolts on the bar restarted...but that was = not really difficult either.
I should have said at the start, that you should be sure your door = struts are doing their job and replace them before this torsion bar = adjustment, if need be. =20
I am tickled with the instructions and the results. I am an old man = (77) and if I can do it anyone can do it! Ho Ho.
Murray Fisher VIN:05962 Lice: DMC-XII
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 98 18:22:45 PDT From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody(AT)kih.net> Subject: DML: Brake pedal
Does anyone with automatics find that the brake pedal is too close to the gas pedal ? Just wandering if anyone has ever moved it and how they did it ?. of course, not everyone has size 14 sneekers trying to squeeze into the car.
- -Brandon
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:05:21 EDT From: Gullwing99(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: British Car Show
Hello fellow D lovers,,, just wanted to tell about a British car show in the Maryland area, I'm the 8th D going,,If you have any questions please call my friend Michael Pack at 410-551-3107,,,,yes only 8,,,nothing compared to 71,,,I'm still sick that I didn't get to make it to that one,,,,but I'll be there for sure in 2000 !! take care J.B. Vincent
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:54:02 EDT From: ABatt10347(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: Windsheild Washer Motor
Fellow DMCer's, Does any have a cross reference on part # 101637, windsheild washer motor. Please email me at ABatt10347(AT)aol.com. As I recieve the digest and need the part asap. Also be warned. The drain holes on my container mt cover (#106087) were plugged with mud/water. This caused my motor to be submurged causing an short in the running lights on the right side. ( continued to blow fuses, this also is your dash lights!!!). Make sure that this container has OPEN drain holes and is sealed at the top. Bruce Battles Vin# 6569
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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:35:32 -0700 From: Mostafa Sayed <phoenixl(AT)ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: DML: Inspector Gadget's DeLorean?
Hi,
A couple months ago I also noticed similarities between inspectors gadget's car and the DeLorean. I was meaning to put up a posting a while ago asking others ideas on that. But I thought people might think it's pointless. Mike is right, the show did debut in 1983, the overall shape is the same also. A couple other cars with DeLorean Shape similarities are the BMW M1, VW Scirroco (I can't spell it right), and the eighties model Camaro. All debuted around the same time as the DeLorean. All these cars also were related. The BMW, VW, and DeLorean were designed by Guigaro, and JZD did work for GM which owned Chevy which made the Camaro.
Any thoughts?
Mostafa
PS: I'll post a picture of the Inspector Gadget car in my upcoming section at my web page. http://members.tripod.com/~Phoenix007/index.html
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:29:02 -0500 From: Duke <at88mph(AT)mobis.com> Subject: Re: DML: Back in the saddle (hot seat?) again...
I put a set of '95 leather Trans Am seats in mine with minor mods. Took a little work but is well worth it. They matched perfectly and you sit a little higher too. Both seats cost me $200 for the pair and put about another $15-25 for the mods I had to do. You can see a pic of them on my web page in the pictures section.
See ya,
Duke www.geocities.com/MotorCity/8952/delorean.html
> FYI. I don't think Recardo seat fits? > If so, it will take too much modifications to do so. > It will give you a new seat arrangement to "get use to." > > Hope that helps. > Anyone on seats? > > Kayo Ong > #05508 > Lic. 9D NY
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:50:03 -0400 From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: DML: Temperature rise on freeway
Automatic.... Is it stuck in a low gear? are the RPM's high?
Dave.Sontos(AT)cooperauto.com wrote: > >> air in it, A/C is in Normal position, fans ARE running. Car is automatic
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:11:52 -0400 From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: DML: Finaly got it!
Just figured I would share with the group (and boast a little I guess), in my efforts to collect Delorean related materials, I have been on the lookout for a DMC Dealer sign.
Welp, I ran home at lunch time to unload the truck, and I now have the sign in my garage. Looks like it is in good shape, but is going to need some work before I hang it in my living room!
So, anyone else out there restore one of these?? Any tips??
One side of the sign is missing the Stainless Steel DMC lettering that looks like it was just glued on to the plastic. Anyone know where I can get some? or have new ones made?
Marc
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:50:55 EDT From: ABatt10347(AT)aol.com Subject: DML: Replacement for windshield washer motor
Fellow DMCer's, Having posted a request for any cross references on the windsheild washer motor. I started visting parts stores. I have found that there is no cross reference, or for that matter NO replacement for this motor!!! Most washer motors on the market now plug (snap) in, not screw in. Having found myself with a dead motor and nothing to lose, I opened mine and was able to clean it up and it works again. When opening the motor ( black plastic case, at end near terminals). I used a coping saw, making sure to only cut into the plastic, stopping before reaching the working inside parts. I then widthdrew the insides making sure to not disrupt any wiring. I used a dremel tool to resurface the armature and clean the magnets. I then put it all back together and used a sealer to reattach the plastic case. While not for everyone, with the failure rate of this part and its cost,a little time and effort is worth it. Hope this helps others. Bruce Battles Vin # 6569
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 19:02:18 -0700 From: Mostafa Sayed <phoenixl(AT)ix.netcom.com> Subject: DML: DeLorean Desktop Theme Updates
I wrote to post a couple updates on the DeLorean Desktop Theme. Including news on the imminent release of the DeLorean Desktop Expansion Pack.
- -The tentative release date for the expansion pack is the fourth of July. I'm not quite so sure yet. I've figured that I will release an expansion pack every time download rates start going down. The expansion will include a more elaborate screen saver, and a couple other things. It will be a nice one.
- -Patches: I will be releasing another patch which will add the start-up and shut-down screeens. Which include the credits, sorry if the contributors thought I left them out. I will be removing the old patch with the release of the Expansion so if you have not downloaded the old patch, do it now. If you downloaded DeLorean 95' after 6/8/98 then you don't need the old patch, which adds the backgrounds. I may release the new patch packed with the expansion, to cut download times.
- -After numerous requests I have decided to start production on the Mac DMC desktop. I have a volunteer to help make a DeLorean Desktop for the Mac, I'm not sure of the release date of the theme yet. I have a lot of work. Tweaking the Windows version of DMC '95, updating website, adding new sections to website. Oh yeah, the volunteer is Paris York. The name of the theme is DeLorean OS.
- -I may make a Windows '98 version of the theme. Production starts after the release of DeLorean OS.
Later,
Mostafa
http://members.tripod.com/~Phoenix007/index.html
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 98 18:30:17 PDT From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody(AT)kih.net> Subject: DML: need a part.
Looking for a clock lens. email bsmoody(AT)kih.net if you have one you need to rid yourself of .
- -Brandon
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 98 18:01:50 PDT From: "Brandon S. Moody" <bsmoody(AT)kih.net> Subject: DML: RE: parts for sale
Thanks for the flood of email on the seat covers but they are now sold. The engine and trans i mentioned before is still available for sale.
- -Brandon bsmoody(AT)kih.net
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:40:29 -0500 From: DMC-FLUX <dmc-flux(AT)geocities.com> Subject: Re: DML: VIN #2932, I've got your frame....
Hello Greg,
Wednesday, 24 June 98, you wrote:
GG> A week or so ago, Scott Meuller mentioned the location of a possible GG> VIN number on his instrument cluster that he saw when he removed the GG> cluster. The vin number was a few numbers off from his actual VIN. GG> The other day, I removed the rear bumper cover and impact absorber GG> and found "2932" written in Irish black permanent ink ; ) on the rear of GG> my car's frame (VIN 2926). Again, a number a few off from my actual GG> VIN. While I'm sure this is totally useless information, I find it to GG> be a small glimpse into how cars were assembled at the factory, and GG> why our cars are each a little bit different.
GG> ************************************************ GG> Morial Convention Center - New Orleans GG> Greg Guillot, Director of Info Systems & Services GG> 900 Convention Center Blvd,New Orleans, LA 70130 GG> Phone (504) 582-3116,Fax (504) 582-3104 GG> Email gguillot(AT)mccno.com GG> ************************************************
That reminds me of a good story...
A couple of weeks ago I was changing the speakers in the front of my car. When we removed the left speaker, there was a small sticker found. It read 3472. My vin is 3461, very close.
Best regards, Dmc-flux mailto:dmc-flux(AT)geocities.com
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:16:05 -0500 From: "Bixby, Web" <wbixby(AT)kclife.com> Subject: DML: RE: Finally got it!
Marc,
I have one also. I have one side of the sign and the frame. I replaced the ballast for the florescent lights and put in some tubes that are brighter and run cooler than what was recommended by the manufacturer(even florescent technology has advanced in the past 17 years). Finally I had all of the wires replaced and mounted the whole unit on my wall in the garage. I used a forklift to put it in place.
I might have some pictures if you are interested in seing the finished product.
Regards
Web Bixby
> ---------- > From: Marc A Levy > Reply To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 3:11 PM > To: Delorean List > Subject: DML: Finaly got it! > > Just figured I would share with the group (and boast a little I guess), > in my efforts to collect Delorean related materials, I have been on > the lookout for a DMC Dealer sign. > > Welp, I ran home at lunch time to unload the truck, and I now have the > sign in my garage. Looks like it is in good shape, but is going to > need some work before I hang it in my living room! > > So, anyone else out there restore one of these?? Any tips?? > > One side of the sign is missing the Stainless Steel DMC lettering that > looks like it was just glued on to the plastic. Anyone know where I can > get some? or have new ones made? > > Marc
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:52:29 -0700 From: "Dave Price" <davep(AT)humanmachine.com> Subject: DML: Re: Brake pedal
>Does anyone with automatics find that the brake pedal >is too close to the gas pedal ? Just wandering if anyone >has ever moved it and how they did it ?. of course, >not everyone has size 14 sneekers trying to squeeze into the car. > >-Brandon >
Ack! Isn't it horrible? I'm only a size 10 and I get hung up all the time..
The only solution I could think of would be to cut the brake pedal to be the same size as the manual-tranny pedal and use the rubber pad from a manual-tranny car. ? Or a direct pedal swap might work.. I don't know if there are any mechanical difference between the two?
Why do automatics have larger brake pedals anyway?
Dave
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:56:17 -0700 From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf(AT)bmi.net> Subject: Re: DML: Door Torsion Bar Adjustment Procedure
Hi Tom,
Thanks for the comments on the torsion bar adjustment. There are
several ways to do it. OF course the main thing is not to get carried away
and do it without seeing and knowing what the catastrophic results COULD
be
if you let it get away from you! I wish it had been set up like on
Chrysler
products Torsion bar adjustments on the front end, with a sort or ring
that
goes around it and just turn a bolt to twist it. When I think of it tho, I
guess there would not be space for a setup like that.
I am not just clear what you are saying about using a T bar tho. OF
course that would work, but you sure would need it to be awful long I
would
think to get the leverage needed. IF you build the jig per the
instructions, there is no problem of getting it off to one side.....the
jig
cradles the 30 inch extension out from the rear of the torsion bar nicely.
Anyway whatever works and is safe and secure is fine. With the jig system
you do not need to take the louvre off either.
Best regards.
Murray
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:18:41 -0400 From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand(AT)ketchum.com> Subject: DML: Movie DMC's
Hi all,
Could anyone point me in the right directions for a couple of DeLoreans? We're doing a thing here at work (Ketchum Public Relations) for a client that may involve the use of original (no replicas, unfortunately) movie/TV cars. You can guess what my first thoughts were... =)
Are all of the BTTF cars still owned by the studio? How about the Wedding Singer car? If anybody can point me in the right direction, please drop me a line at dave.stragand(AT)ketchum.com
- -Dave Stragand 1958 Plymouth -- "Christine" clone. Still working on getting the D... I have a lead on a completely disassembled '82 for $2000, but he's hesitant to sell. I'll keep working him... =)
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:42:01 -0800 From: "tomcio" <tomcio(AT)goplay.com> Subject: RE: DML: Door Torsion Bar Adjustment Procedure
Hi all, I did the adjustment not a long ago and I recomend using a T extension for that allen wrench. That way you will turn the torsion bar without pulling it to the side and possible braking it. I got my T extension from Sears for around $10. Also, it is much easier to turn that bar using two hands intstead of one. Good luck with the adjustment. And believe me, it was much easier than I thought. Tom vin 6298
"Murray Fisher" <murrayf(AT)bmi.net> wrote on Thursday June 25, 1998 at 12:07pm: >Usually when I see a request for something I know about, I wait for ten >other people to give their responses. This time I have just finished >the Door Torsion Bar adjustment and thought it might be timely for >me to comment. ....SNIP........
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:26:36 -0400 From: "Joe " <dmcjoe(AT)att.net> Subject: Re: DML: Re: unexpected shut off
Joe, Sorry about the miss-information. The problem your having is located in the "buzzer logic box circuit". Whenever you turn the ignition key to the start position the logic box illuminates the seat belt light and sounds the buzzer for 5 seconds as a reminder. We need to find out why this is happening when your shifting. I will do some research on this and get back to you, Joe/DeLorean Services
- ---------- > From: JSteuben(AT)aol.com > To: dmcnews(AT)world.std.com > Subject: Re: DML: Re: unexpected shut off > Date: Wednesday, June 24, 1998 3:06 PM > > Thanks Joe, but it's the seatbelt light, not the brake light. Best > regards, > Joe
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:12:07 -0400 From: Marc A Levy <malevy(AT)dnrc.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: DML: VIN #2932, I've got your frame....
Why the heck would DMC put the vin on every part in the car? Seems silly!
DMC-FLUX wrote:
> A couple of weeks ago I was changing the speakers in the front of my > car. When we removed the left speaker, there was a small sticker > found. It read 3472. My vin is 3461, very close.
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 8:25:24 -0600 From: Greg Guillot <gguillot(AT)mccno.com> Subject: DML: Alternative Seats
Does anybody else have any experience with replacement seats? The D has a simple bolt pattern for the seats, and since the floorboard is flat, I would think that it would be easy to mount a different type of seat. My original seats are in poor shape, and need the foam as well as new covers, so I am looking for a good alternative until I can have the originals redone. Since I have many other areas of the car that require my time and money, I am going to hold off on the original seats until the end of the restoration project. I know there are some really comfortable seats out there, and I guess I'll just have to go rummage through an import car junkyard and find a pair. Seats out of an early to mid '80's Corvette would look sharp. Anybody else have a suggestion?
Greg Guillot VIN #2926
On 25 Jun 98 at 14:29, Duke wrote:
> I put a set of '95 leather Trans Am seats in mine with minor mods. Took a > little work but is well worth it. <SNIP>
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