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Friday, 29 March 1996 Volume 02 : Number 094
In this issue:
plant
DOA membership and soon-to-be owner
Other Cars
Ghostly Tachometer & Concours Condition
Weird Door Locks ????
Re: The Delorean-Bricklin Debate
Re: dmcnews-digest V2 #92
Re: dmcnews-digest V2 #92
They forgot to leave room for the ashtray.....!
Re: They forgot to leave room for the ashtray.....!
What's with the DMC Network WWW page?
Interior Space Incompatibility
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From: Norman Vennard
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 14:04:16 +0000
Subject: plant
Hi there,
Just a note to answer your question, the plant was in
|West Belfast in Dunmurry. The firm I now work for Short Bros PLC.
own about half the original plant with Montipet (they make engine blocks
for Renault) owing the other. Believe me there is nothing left there
to indicate the Delorean was made there. The odd interesting item
does turn up and I will be glad to inform you of their nature. I have
had my Delorean now for about three years and enjoy the car very much.
There is a chapter of the Delorean Owners Ass. in N.Ireland and the guy
that runs it often has bits and pieces for sale, I can forward you his
address if you wish.
Regards Norman.V
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| Norman Vennard | Email: norman.vennard(AT)shorts.co.uk |
| Senior Systems Analyst | Phone: 44 1232 733417 |
| Short Brothers PLC | Fax : 44 1232 733535 |
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From: Knut S Grimsrud
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 07:55:00 PST
Subject: DOA membership and soon-to-be owner
"Mr. THX" writes:
> One question: for a soon-to-be DeLorean owner, what good would
> being a member of the DOA be to me since I don't have the car yet?
> Should I wait?
In my opinion, you should join the DOA before you buy a DMA. The DOA
magazine has DMC ads in the back and there are other ads for DMC service
centers and parts suppliers that you may find useful. When checking a car
for sale, having a bit of background info on the car is essential, and
the DOA may be able to provide some of that info. When checking cars, you
should also note items that require replacement and get prices on those
items from parts suppliers in order to estimate the cost of bringing a
car up to snuff.
The more info you have on the car prior to your purchase, the easier it
will be for you to identofy a solid car for purchase.
Knut Grimsrud
DOA Chapter 41
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From: ausmith(AT)pdx.oneworld.com
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 08:03:15 +0000
Subject: Other Cars
O.K. enough allready! I started this by forewarding a hostile letter
that I got from a Bricklin owner. I thought it was a little wierd that
someone who owns a "different" car wouldn't appreciate all cars that
are unusual.
I've a friend that has a 1912/13 Simplex and a Stutz HH sedan. I
wouldn't dream of critisizing his choice. These cars are not "daily
drivers" and require tinkering that makes the DMC look perfect. Great
fun! I helped another friend build a popcorn wagon out of a 1923 (?)
Ford flatbed. Lots of converting and fabricating.
I enjoy going to the Monterey Historic and talking with everyone I
can about their cars and they, I think, enjoy talking to me about
mine. There is a guy that shows up with his own private Semi and a
collection of Cobras'. The Semi has a machine shop in it and he
enjoys making parts for anyone who breaks something while there.
Doesn't matter if it's an MG or Bugatti, he enjoys it as a hobby.
There is enough hostility around and it has no business rearing it's
ugly head among people that enjoy unusual automobiles.
Chris
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From: stormrider(AT)socketis.net (Chase Clark)
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 12:50:43 -0600
Subject: Ghostly Tachometer & Concours Condition
Since I was thinking about unusual happenings in my car, I came across
another. The tach works fine when the car is running and once I turn it off
it drops all the way down to the rest position. But when I remove the key
from the ignition, it always climbs back up to about 11 RPM. Is this
normal? If not what could be causing it? Electrical short draining power
from battery?
And for all you concours enthusiasts...Outside of the paint, chrome wheels
and rear wing, I seem to have had one of the most original DeLoreans out
there. ;) Not a single recall or update had ever been performed when I
purchased the car - i.e. throttle, front suspension, Ducellier alternator
and on and on... It won't stay this way for long since the DeLorean is now
my primary car for at least a couple of months. My Sunbird convertible
blew a head gasket and warped the engine block doing so and the engine
basically has to be rebuilt, followed by a new top being installed and
fixing up the interior and exterior. It should be interesting driving the
DeLorean around full time! If only I can keep it running and the doors
opening and closing. :)
~ Chase
Stormrider Media Productions
Chase Clark, Co-Owner
P.O. Box 105301
Jefferson City, Missouri 65110-5301
Voice/Fax (573)635-0622
Email: stormrider(AT)socketis.net
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From: stormrider(AT)socketis.net (Chase Clark)
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 12:37:36 -0600
Subject: Weird Door Locks ????
I recently noticed that the inside lock switches on my doors work in
opposite directions of each other. The driver's door locks when moved
forward, while the passenger door locks when moved backward. OK, maybe this
is the way it is suppose to be, or maybe the previous owner screwed up the
driver's door more than I realize? Figured I would ask.
The driver's door does have a number of linkages missing, including the
lock linkage to the outside handle and the smalllinkage that comes off the
lock solenoid. I am STILL adjusting the rear latch linkage without success.
I totally took it out and reinstalled last weekend and now the door is
barely closed and pops open on bumpy roads. Guess I have some more
adjusting to do. Always seems to be too loose or too tight. It's so much
fun working around the sharp SS304 surfaces.
One of these days I rip out all the old linkages, replace them all with new
ones as well as putting on metal door handles. Then have both doors
realigned and hope for the best.
As always, thanks!!
~ Chase
Stormrider Media Productions
Chase Clark, Co-Owner
P.O. Box 105301
Jefferson City, Missouri 65110-5301
Voice/Fax (573)635-0622
Email: stormrider(AT)socketis.net
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From: "MARK HERSHEY"
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 14:05:43 +0000
Subject: Re: The Delorean-Bricklin Debate
Well, well, well... I guess it was going to happen someday. Frankly,
I'm surprised that the great Delorean-Bricklin debates didn't start
long ago.
My two cents' worth: I own a Delorean; love it.
My Neighbor owned a Bricklin; loved it.
Yet we both would love to have the others' car, too. So I got
vicarious Bricklin pleasure; he got Delorean.
Now we both know more about both cars than we would have known about
either-- we both learned as much about our own cars as we could, if
for no other reason than to defend it in our lively, though friendly,
debates..
Bottom line: They are two of the most unique cars in history, and the
stories of their development are fascinating. Cheers to all who
appreciate either one.
Mark Hershey
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From: michael richard pack
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:38:42 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: dmcnews-digest V2 #92
In response to the Bricklin owners;
Herb Grass owner of Grasses motoring archives in Scottsdale arizona is
the designer of the bricklin. I talked to him on the phone on many
occasions trying to find Delorean literature to complete my collection.
I mentioned the DOA in Las Vegas in sept 95 and he suggested that he
would bring a slide show made for john delorean about his styling
abilities. Herb was one of the designers of the prototype dmc-12,
however Girgiuro(sp) won the contract with his quick response time on the
delorean.
I've seen a white bricklin driving around the Annapolis area for the last
2-3 years. Md license number:"mybrick"
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From: michael richard pack
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:38:42 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: dmcnews-digest V2 #92
In response to the Bricklin owners;
Herb Grass owner of Grasses motoring archives in Scottsdale arizona is
the designer of the bricklin. I talked to him on the phone on many
occasions trying to find Delorean literature to complete my collection.
I mentioned the DOA in Las Vegas in sept 95 and he suggested that he
would bring a slide show made for john delorean about his styling
abilities. Herb was one of the designers of the prototype dmc-12,
however Girgiuro(sp) won the contract with his quick response time on the
delorean.
I've seen a white bricklin driving around the Annapolis area for the last
2-3 years. Md license number:"mybrick"
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From: awolf(AT)pacific.telebyte.net
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 08:45:21 -0800
Subject: They forgot to leave room for the ashtray.....!
>horsepower by the sizeably larger eight. Also, it's a lot easier to get a
>car
>out quickly when you use a pre-existing chassis, especially one from an
>automaker with excess capacity [AMC and its' foundering Javelin
>platform], as compared to a purpose-built backbone chassis [the D]. And
From what I've been made to understand...I really have to ask....Is
the bricklin a kit car?...The more I hear, the more it seems it is...
>let's recall the *real* reason why there's no ashtray in the SV-1: the
>designers forgot to leave room for it when they designed the dashboard,
>so it was marketed as a "safety" measure.
ooh!...heheeh...That's funny!
Wolfie - Ahhh...my rotor, cap, plugs, and wires are here..
Time to get to work, I suppose...
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From: The Doctor
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 17:12:42 CST
Subject: Re: They forgot to leave room for the ashtray.....!
On Thu, 28 Mar 1996 08:45:21 -0800 awolf(AT)pacific.telebyte.net wrote:
> >... it's a lot easier to get a car out quickly when you use a pre-existing
> >chassis, especially one from an automaker with excess capacity
> >[AMC and its' foundering Javelin platform], as compared to a
> >purpose-built backbone chassis [the D].
>
>
>From what I've been made to understand...I really have to ask....Is the
>bricklin a kit car?...The more I hear, the more it seems it is...
Seems like it, doesn't it? However, the Bricklin was an actual car,
simply one built off another manufacturer's platform [similar to
early-80's Bitters] for matters of financial economy. Malcolm Bricklin
hit up the Canadian government for funds for his factory [as JZD did with
Puerto Rico and Great Britain] and then defaulted when his cars didn't
sell [as JZD would do years later].
> >let's recall the *real* reason why there's no ashtray in the SV-1: the
> >designers forgot to leave room for it when they designed the
> >dashboard, so it was marketed as a "safety" measure.
>
>
> ooh!...heheeh...That's funny!
And like most in life that's funny, it's also true.
For those who said, "Hey! I've got dual exhausts on my D!", look carefully
at Troy McClure's D. Each exhaust is split into two ports - an
arrangement with which I'm not familiar on a DMC-12.
Perhaps we should give the Bricklin matter a rest - or change the group
name to "Gullwings" or "Bs & Ds", leading to a debacle of infighting
between the Bricklin owners and DeLorean owners [and many confused
subscribers to the latter name 8-].
The Doctor
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From: "Mr. THX"
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 22:32:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: What's with the DMC Network WWW page?
Hi all,
I found www.delorean.com several weeks ago. They were supposed to
go online around 3/15. It's not over 2 weeks later and nothing. I emailed
the webmaster and nothing. Anyone involved in this page?
Mike
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From: stormrider(AT)socketis.net (Chase Clark)
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:20:17 -0600
Subject: Interior Space Incompatibility
For those of your subscribers who dream of DeLoreans but aren't lucky
enough to own one at the moment, yet want to know all about its
idiosyncrasies, here's a tidbit for you I realized the other day...
The DeLorean is very comfortable inside and I drove mine 17 hours in one
day without being the least bit sore or stiff afterward. However, I find
that my left knee and the turn indicator switch on the steering wheel are
often fighting for the same space. A minor inconvenience, and one I'll
happily live with for the privilege of driving such an eye-popping vehicle.
Just my two cents worth of ramblings for today.
~ Chase
Stormrider Media Productions
Chase Clark, Co-Owner
P.O. Box 105301
Jefferson City, Missouri 65110-5301
Voice/Fax (573)635-0622
Email: stormrider(AT)socketis.net
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