DeLorean Mailing List - 3/7/96
dmcnews-digest Friday, 7 March 1997 Volume 02 : Number 218
In this issue:
Re: Delorean Models
Re: Should I buy it?
Pivot Action Bolt in shift linkage
New member
DMC east coast, GM, Bricklin, 3rd strobe light...
Belfast
DeLorean's In NC
Delorean Model Update
Re: Pivot Action Bolt in shift linkage
Re: Delorean Model Update
Re: Pivot Action Bolt in shift linkage
Re: Yokohama A378 Tires
ceiling units + tyres
81 or 82
ADMIN NOTE: List flakiness
Re: ceiling units + tyres
Re: Delorean Model Update
DMC Parts:5-speed transmission and rear drive
Re: ceiling units + tyres
Re: 81 or 82
Another BTTF model source
Re: ceiling units + tyres
Re: 81 or 82
Re: Pivot Action Bolt in shift linkage
Alabama Delorean Owners
Re: Delorean Model Update
Belfast Trip
DeLorean frame
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From: Bob Kidd
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 14:38:42 -0800
Subject: Re: Delorean Models
Let me know what scale and size these kits are. I have a 4 1/2" pewter model,
but would be interested in a larger model.
Bob Kidd
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From: "Michael E. Gaines" Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 09:48:10 -0500
Subject: Re: Should I buy it?
Murray Fisher wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>Both were always garage stored.
>The guy wants $19,500 for it and I offered him $17,500. Neither of us will budge
so far...the owner apparently does not need the money. He is aware that I will have
to pay for new tires, hoses, and other parts and probably that would come to a
minimum of another 2K.
For the work that you know you have to put into it, I'd have a hard time budging.
I put $1500 into my car with about another $500 to go, and I spent $11,900 on it.
In your case, unless you can get it in PERFECT shape, I wouldn't spend and extra
$2k. That's a LOT of money!!! Of course, if you can AFFORD it, that's a different
story.
>A little aside to the story....the guy was formerly into drug peddling and spent
some time up at the State Penitentiary which is in this town. Isn't that ironic!
Check inside the doors! :)
>So what do you guys out there think?
Well, he knows now that someone's interested in it. If he doesn't NEED the money,
then why isn't he budging? $17,500 is a fair price. With the problems you describe,
I would try going even lower, but you don't want to piss the guy off. Remember,
you're going to have to spend money to get it up to speed, and who knows if you
have to send it to DeLorean One or something for specific problems. See if there
are any mechanics in your area that are willing to work on it.
It's up to you, but if you're looking to spend $2-3k to get it working properly,
than I can't see the $19,500 pricetag. DeLoreans in perfect shape are going for
$25k so put it into perspective.
Mike
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From: James Espey
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 97 07:48:55 -0000
Subject: Pivot Action Bolt in shift linkage
Twice in the last month the pivot action bolt has backed out of the captive nut,
once leaving me stranded in neutral, and once semi-stranded in first. The Service
Manual does indicate that this bolt should have "loctite" applied to it - should
I disregard and loctite it anyway? One of these days it's going to happen at a
not so opportune time...
James
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From: ABatt10347(AT)aol.com
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 18:55:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: New member
James,
Sorry if this is the wrong email box. Wanted to introduce myself to the DMC
news letter. I have an 81 DMC Vin.# 6569. It is gray inside and is a 5 speed.
Have really enjoyed the information that I have found in the newsletter. I also
own an 85 Jaguar XJS so I know about fun of owning an "British car". I
enjoy working on my rides, have just finished a 1951 F1 Ford truck (all orginal).
So being under a car is an almost weekly thing. As far as where I'm
located I live about 45 miles north of Nashville,TN. So for those friends in
the AL area. Get in touch with me via email ABatt10347(AT)aol.com and we will try
and hook up. Also anyone in the TN area would love to talk cars or old trucks.
The fun of the DMC is not only the ride but the looks and questions
you get when driving one. If I only had a dollar for each time someone asked
me to open the doors so they could see how they worked!!! Anyway thanks for
the info it is great to be able to share info with fellow DMCers.
Bruce Battles
81 DMC Vin #6569
85 Jaguar XJS
87 Dodge Raider
90 Volvo 240 DL
51 Ford F1
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From: thomas mccoy Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 12:59:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: DMC east coast, GM, Bricklin, 3rd strobe light...
>From the readings here on the list, and the D.O.A. events (Nashville,
etc...) I feel as if the Eastern U.S. has more going on. A previous posting talks
about a door clinic over there...I'd love to go if I wasn't thousands of miles
away!!!
Years back, Disneyland had a "blast form the past" celebration, where you could
win fifties cars. Out in front of the main entrance, they had a sixties concept
Corvette car. It had the DMC-style windows on it! I am glad to see this idea in
a production car, but some may think De Lorean is just copying ideas from others.
Our car seems to be forever caught in the BRICKLIN talk. Most strangers I meet
always mention the Bricklin. They say DMC is another Bricklin. This is unfortunate,
but will never cease. It is a Psychological phenomenon for humans to classify and
cubby-hole the world. Personally, I believe DMC has transcended some automotive
barriers, employing advanced materials (such as the G.R.P underbody) and permitting
a harmonious balance of asthetic form and function!
James Nichols brought up a good point. There seems to be no absolute way to stop
people from rear-ending a car. So, how about some kind of strobe light?! ...like on
an ambulence!!!!!
I feel DMC will go up in value, some time around thirty years (BTTF fans know the
significance). This number seems common, as fifties were popular in the eighties
and sixties in the nineties. Every person reading this list can have an effect on
the future! Our cars have lasted through some tough times,and will continue...even
for those of us who can't afford frame-up restorations! Through the helpful
postings on this
list flow the life-preserving maintainance tips for our futures!!! I'll shut up
now...
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From: "Scott Mueller" Date: Wed, 5 Mar 97 02:56:23 UT
Subject: Belfast
I will be at the Euro-fest in Belfast this May. I am looking forward to meeting
everyone and talking shop. My family and I will also be attending the
Snowmass event. Unfortunately, both events are to far from San Francisco to
bring my Delorean.
SCOTTAMUELLER(AT)MSN.COM [HOME]
SMUELLER(AT)BWIP.COM [WORK]
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From: Scott Tester Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 04:21:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: DeLorean's In NC
Are there any DeLorean owners in or near the Appalachian Mountains? I live in
Boone, North Carolina and would love to see a DeLorean. I have only seen
one, and even then I could not get inside! Thanks!
Scott Tester testersd(AT)appstate.campus.mci.net
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From: WINGD2(AT)aol.com
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 00:28:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Delorean Model Update
I spoke with Art at All American Models today and here's an update on the
Delorean model kits. We now have two versions to choose from. The difference
between the two is how many parts you get in the kit.
The 1st kit, lets call it a "base kit", includes a 1/24 scale Delorean
body in stock configuration (no BTTF hoses,etc), a dash panel, an engine
cover and a rear louver. This kit is designed to be combined with a BTTF
"donor "kit in order to build a stock Delorean. Note: The BTTF donor kit
required for this is NOT included. You must supply the BTTF kit seperatly.
These BTTF kits are no longer produced but you may find them at some model
shops. I think the BTTF fan club also has some. If you have trouble finding
these kits let me know, I have a few sources I can pass along.
The 2nd kit, lets call it a "deluxe kit". Art has told me that if we get
enough orders (15 to 20 kits) for this version, he will make all the required
molds to produce this new version. It will include the 1/24 scale Delorean
body, a one piece chassis, an interior, wheels, tires and all the other misc
required to build a complete stock Delorean. No "donor" kit will be required
for this version.
Both the base kit and the deluxe kit will use the same body. It will be
a resin casting in 1/24 scale.(the same scale as the BTTF kit). The body will
be molded in one piece. It will NOT have working doors, hood or engine cover.
On the deluxe kit the chassis will also be a one piece unit with molded in
drive train on the bottom. The interior will be a one piece tub affair. These
kits do not have a complete engine. These kits are more like the models of
20 to 30 years ago. They have a basic body, interior and chassis and make for
a nice display model. They do not have all the fantastic detail, opening
doors and hood, detailed engine,etc of many of todays models. They also are
not just a snap togrther affair to assemble. They will require some modeling
skill to complete and finish. Talking about finishing, Art tells me that
Testers Company (they make model paints) makes a "Metalizer Paint" in stainless
steel color that should be real close for this car. He said you can
even buff it a little after it dries. He also said that the resin he uses to
make the parts can not be assembled with regular model cement. Model cement
won't touch the resin. He said you need to use either 5 minute epoxy or super
glue, so like I said, some modeling skill is required.
Now the ordering details. James has kinda asked me if I'll act as the
point man on this, so no problem. Art tells me he would like to just deal
with one order on this and let us take care of distribution.
He says that in order for him to produce these kits he needs to make at
least 25 to 30 bodys. In order for him to produce the deluxe kit with chassis
and all, he needs at least 15 kits. This means we need as a minimum either 25
to 30 "base kit" orders -or- 15 "deluxe kit" with 10 to 15 "base kit" orders.
Naturally if we get more orders Art will produce how ever many we need.
The cost will be as follows: "Base Kit" = $40ea + $5shipping = total $45
each
"Deluxe Kit" = $55ea + $5shipping = total $60 each
If you want to place an order, send me a check or money order to the address
below. (also include a shipping address) I will compile orders until
the end of the month. Cut off date for orders is March 30th.(Easter). At that
time I will place an order with Art to proceed with the kits. Please Note: Just
to make things clear, I'm not doing this to make money for myself. I will hold
everyones checks until an order is placed with Art. If we don't get
enough orders to proceed with this,I will return everyones checks. Also note:
If anyone from overseas is interested in these kits, please e-mail me and let
me know your mailing address. I'll check on shipping costs and let you know.
The kit costs and shipping costs shown above are for USA only.
The last item I have is the timetable we're looking at. Once the order
is placed with Art (say April 1st) It will take him approx 8 to 10 weeks to
make the masters, make the molds and produce our kits. That means kits should
be ready to ship about mid June (sorry James). I will keep everyone updated
with progress thru the mailing list.
For orders make checks or money orders out to: Marty Maier Mail to : Marty Maier
704 Valley Dr
E. Alton, Ill. 62024
Comments or sugestions welcome. e-mail to WINGD2(AT)aol.com or phone 618-259-8149
Side note: To date (3-4) I've recieved e-mail with tentative orders for
approx 18 kits. If I get enough orders (I.E. checks or money orders) to meet
Arts minimums, I'll try and get him started on the masters and molds ahead of
time to try and speed up deliveries.
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From: DMC12JR(AT)aol.com
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 21:18:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Pivot Action Bolt in shift
linkage
there should be a jam nut on the other side of the bolt that goes through the
linkage. Has the bolt fell off in the first go around?
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From: James Espey
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 97 07:46:25 -0000
Subject: Re: Delorean Model Update
All of the information from Marty's post will be included in the DeLorean Mailing
List web page today or tomorrow. Direct questions about the model project to Marty
at wingd2(AT)aol.com
Also, a month or so ago I was surfing the web and ran across a model place in
Japan that had BTTF kits, but have been unable to find it again. I'm sure they're
still out there - anyone familiar with this? Prices were quite reasonable and they
appeared to have a large quantity of kits.
James
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From: James Espey
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 97 07:46:21 -0000
Subject: Re: Pivot Action Bolt in shift linkage
>there should be a jam nut on the other side of the bolt that goes through the
linkage. Has the bolt fell off in the first go around?
Jam nut? Someone who doesn't prefer jelly?
Anywho - there is a nut that appears to be permanently attached to the underside
of the pivot, which the bolt threads into. Should there be another (non-captive)
nut on the end of the bolt? It doesn't appear long enough to take another nut.
Is loctite okay, and if not, why not?
The "occasionally shiftless" James
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From: raddad(AT)cmn.net
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:44:44 -0700
Subject: Re: Yokohama A378 TiresScott
I have been running on those very same tires for the past two years -- nearly
20,000 miles. I am very satisfied with them. I bought them through
Discount Tire Co, but not by mail. One went down on me on a trip -- valve stem
failure. Tire was ruined. Discount made it good! Would recommend both the
Yokohama and Discount Tire Co.
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From: perotti
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 19:35:46 +0100
Subject: ceiling units + tyres
I have 2 questions:
1) The ceiling units at the roof of my D are loose (grey interior): I think the
moisture effected the both the glue between the roof and the ceiling units and
the foam from the roof fabric. Does this sound familiar to anyone and/or does
anyone has experience on renewing the ceiling. Suggestions on which fabric to
use? 2) I will renew the tyres. Does anyone recommend a special type of tyres.
I red already on earlier dmcnews that Pirelli's will be OK, does anyone recommend
a special type or alternatives? Suggestions are very welcome.
Mario Perotti
The Netherlands
VIN#10117
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Homepage: http://home.pi.net/~perotti/home.htm -
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From: Kevin Wolter Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:01:16 -0600
Subject: 81 or 82
Hello all.
I was thinking of getting customized plates for my D and I thought of a = question.
My D is #6810 and has a build date of Nov 81 but the car is = registered as an 82.
Since I was thinking of getting a number on the = license plate to represent the
year and I was wondering was others from = the late 81 era considered the year of
their car to really be.
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From: James Espey
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 17:42:11 -0500
Subject: ADMIN NOTE: List flakiness
Expect some list flakiness for the next few days as my ISP changes to a new mail
server.
I'm considering changing my ISP from goodnet to a national company - anyone have
any experience with ATT, MCI or Sprint they'd share with me? Email me direct please!
James "Mikasa" Espey
Moderator, DeLorean Mailing List
http://www.dmcnews.com Coming in '97 - http://www.dmcnews.com/
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From: Dan Baisley Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 17:42:11 -0500
Subject: Re: ceiling units + tyres
At 07:35 PM 3/5/97 +0100, perotti wrote:
II have 2 questions:
>1) The ceiling units at the roof of my D are loose (grey interior): I think the
moisture effected the both the glue between the roof and the ceiling units and
the foam from the roof fabric. Does this sound familiar to anyone and/or does
anyone has experience on renewing the ceiling. Suggestions on which fabric to use?
The fabric comes attached to the foam, and the foam degrades over time. Last
time I was at PJ Grady's, he had a big roll of the stuff. It is the same texture
as any other headliner material I've seen, so you may be able to find it locally.
It's really light, so the overseas shipping shouldn't be too much if you go with
Grady.
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I'm hungry. Let's get a taco.
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From: Nikki Schumann Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:19:03 +0100 (GMT) Subject: Re: Delorean Model Update
>Also, a month or so ago I was surfing the web and ran across a model place in
>Japan that had BTTF kits, but have been unable to find it again. I'm sure they're
still out there - anyone familiar with this? Prices were quite reasonable and they
appeared to have a large quantity of kits.
>James
I recently purchased a BTTF kit from the web address below. The packet arrived
from a company called Tristar Intl. located in Milpitas CA in due time and looks
quite good. I have not started building yet due to a lack of
time and imagination on how to build a louvred tail gate, which seems to be
the only part that is really missing to make a stock DMC-12 (all other parts
are easily adaptable).
The address - http://www.hobbyweb.com
Their sale price is US$ 22.41 + shipping. Kit is made by a Japanese (I believe)
company called Aoshima and all instructions are in Japanese (?) but
well illustrated. Scale is 1/24 of course and its reference number at Hobbyweb
is 01069.
As a matter of fact they have a choice of 3 different BTTF Delorean kits. One
from BTTF 1 (probably the best for someone wanting to build a normal DMC), and
two other versions from BTTF 3 (one with 50's wheels and one on rail tracks).
If anybody has a suggestion on how to build the louvred tail gate they're very
welcome.
Regards,
Nikki Schumann.
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From: dstall(AT)trib.net (D.L. Stalling)
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 18:22:24 -0600 (CST) Subject: DMC Parts:5-speed transmission
and rear drive
During a fit of madness I acquired a 5speed transmission, bell housing and rear
drive assy (complete transaxle) for a project that isn't going to happen. The
transmission was storred at some point where moisture caused some very minor
surface rust on the upper gears but the gears are fine; minor surface rust on one
shifting forks needs to be cleanup. The transmission came from a car with an
engine fire at 6000miles. The differential/final drive part appears fine. The
input shaft from the clutch wont turn but probably will be ok when taken apart.
One of the two outer bolt holes that secure the output shaft housings to the
mounts are broken but the output shafts are fine along with bearings. I am asking
$300 for the complete works and buyer pays shipping. My home phone is
(573) 442-2795 and email: dstall(AT)mail.trib.net
P.S.
Also have "Y" part of frame from mid-point of shifter assembly to just in front of
engine mount cradle; fiberglass floor and body door frame to just overhead of driver
and passenger (no "T" section) with passenger side pontoon intact. The driver's side
is good only to mid point of wheel well.
Have drivers side axle support rail complete with axle but no support strutts. Make
offers I may have to relocate.
Our family really enjoyed having our son and daughter-in-laws 's "On to the
Future" wedding picture on the Delorean Owners Association Home page. The picture
was taken as they left in the DMC12 from their wedding. Thanks to Jim Espey!!
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From: BRUCE BENSON Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:24:28 +0000
Subject: Re: ceiling units + tyres
At 06:35 PM 3/5/97 +0000, you wrote:
>I have 2 questions:
>1) The ceiling units at the roof of my D are loose (grey interior): I think the
moisture effected the both the glue between the roof and the ceiling units and the
foam from the roof fabric. Does this sound familiar to anyone and/or does anyone
has experience on renewing the ceiling. Suggestions on which fabric to use? 2) I
will renew the tyres. Does anyone recommend a special type of tyres. I red already
on earlier dmcnews that Pirelli's will be OK, does anyone recommend a special type
or alternatives? Suggestions are very welcome.
>Mario Perotti
>The Netherlands
>VIN#10117
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Homepage: http://home.pi.net/~perotti/home.htm
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Mario,
I have the Yokohama AVS intermediate tires on my car. I know many others using
these tires and I have yet to hear complaints. They are very good at high speeds
and in the rain. The head liner in the Saab 900 Turbo I had several years ago had
the same headliner material as the Delorean. The most
common problems are usually with the sections on the doors. All the headliners
panels are held in place by plastic barbs or as they are commonly
called here, trees. The form that the material is glued to is rather delicate and
care must be taken when removing them. A long flat, thin, tool
that can reach under the panels and pry each clip loose works the best. The
DeLorean shops in the U.S. do recover these panels but most upholstery shops
can match the material. An aerosol can of fabric cement is used to spray glue to
hold the new material in place. It can be a bit tricky and care should be taken to
trim the material short enough so it doesn't pick up water in the drain area by
the torsion bars. If not, it will act as a wick and become stained or discolored.
The problem with the material in the head
liner is that the fabric separates from the foam backing and the only fix is
to replace it. The weather here in Minnesota is finally beginning to show signs of
spring which means I can get my DeLorean out of storage!. I haven't
driven it since October so I'm really looking forward to nice weather.
Best Regards,
Bruce Benson
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From: James Nichols Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 11:54:54 +0000
Subject: Re: 81 or 82
Kevin Wolter wrote:
>Hello all.
>I was thinking of getting customized plates for my D and I thought of a = question.
My D is #6810 and has a build date of Nov 81 but the car is = registered as an 82.
Since I was thinking of getting a number on the = license plate to represent the
year and I was wondering was others from = the late 81 era considered the year of
their car to really be.
My VIN #6884 is registired as a 1981. I can't check the manufacture date at this
time because I keep it at the lake, about 50 milis away, but will do so next week.
Jim
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From: James Espey
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 97 10:02:29 -0000
Subject: Another BTTF model source
I found the company in Japan that sells BTTF kits. These kits are made by Aoshima,
like the ones that Nikki posted about earlier.
Depending on which kit you get, they run between 1500 and 1800 yen (about $12 to
$15). Shipping takes about a week to ten days by SAL (surface-air-link) and runs
880 yen (about $7.25) for the first kit and 400 yen (about $3.25) for each add'l
kit ordered at the same time. They take credit cards.
This is their URL, and the URL for the BTTF kits:
http://www.iac.co.jp/~hlj/
http://www.iac.co.jp/~hlj/scifi/scifiBackToTheFuture.html
James
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From: James Espey
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 97 09:29:14 -0000
Subject: Re: ceiling units + tyres
>1) The ceiling units at the roof of my D are loose (grey interior): I think the
moisture effected the both the glue between the roof and the ceiling units and
the foam from the roof fabric. Does this sound familiar to anyone and/or does
anyone has experience on renewing the ceiling. Suggestions on which fabric to use?
Saggy headliners are common to DeLoreans. Heat, age and moisture breakdown the
adhesive hold the fabric to the foam backing, replacement is the only good solution.
Ray Haug did a nice job re-doing his headliners and outlined the procedure in
DeLorean Mailing List #138...
http://www.goodnet.com/~mikasa/dml138.html
The material is readily available here in the states - you could take a sample
to a local upholstery shop and they could most likely match it...
I have the Yokohama AVS U+4 tires and have been EXTREMELY pleased with their ride,
handling and wear. Bear in mind I do little, if any, wet weather driving here in
the Arizona desert.
James
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From: James Espey
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 97 09:28:39 -0000
Subject: Re: 81 or 82
>I was thinking of getting customized plates for my D and I thought of a = question.
My D is #6810 and has a build date of Nov 81 but the car is = registered as an 82.
Since I was thinking of getting a number on the = license plate to represent the
year and I was wondering was others from = the late 81 era considered the year of
their car to really be.
This the second or third DeLoreanI have heard about that the state has mis-registered
it. Are you in California by chance? The other two I know of were.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the VIN on DeLoreans indicates the model year.
THe VIN ends with two letters and then 6 digits, the first letter indicating the
model year, the second the factory location and the number being the build sequence.
For example:
BD006810
B=81
D=Dunmurry
My car is an 82, as indicated by the VIN:
CD010570
Marv Sterling on the list has an '83, his VIN is:
DD016000
I believe this is true for all cars, at least thru the eighties (A=80, B=81, C=82,
D=83, E=84, etc.)
James
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From: DMC12JR(AT)aol.com
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 22:11:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Pivot Action Bolt in
shift linkage
Yes there should be a jam nut on there. Right becide the other that is permant!
You will have to get one if you lost yours when the bolt came out.
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From: CDIUSAMPS(AT)aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 03:17:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: Alabama Delorean Owners
Come on people. Any owners or wanna be owners, or those just interested, lets get
something together. I cannot find any club or group covering the Alabama,
Mississippi or Georgia areas. E-mail me and lets get cranking (not
a DMC12 electrical joke). BILL
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From: Kevin MacDougall Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 14:08:07 -0500
Subject: Re: Delorean Model Update
Also they have a BTTF 2 delorean on a "flying pedestal" at the BTTF fan club page,
as well as the other ones mentioned including the Rail and stock
BTTF DMC all for 20.00 each..
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From: James Espey
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 07:34:26 -0000
Subject: Belfast Trip
Fellow list-member Chris Rabalais and myself will be traveling to Belfast for
EuroFest this May. We will have a layover of a few hours in Washington Dulles on
the afternoon of the 21st and a few hours in London Heathrow the morning of the
22nd. On the return, we have a couple hours in London Heathrow the morning of the
26th and a couple hours again in the early afternoon of the 26th at Chicago O'Hare.
Anyone care to drive out to the airport and meet us for drinks and small talk?
Email me for details...
James Espey
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From: HOTALASKAN(AT)aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:29:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: DeLorean frame
I have a 81 Delorean frame that I would like to sell. It is just the frame,
no suspention parts are on it.It does however have the gas tank. The frame is
missing the driver side rear support piece that is behind the shock tower, but
otherwise very little rust.Will consider all offers. thanks Jon-Eric
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