DeLorean Mailing List - 3/10/96


dmcnews-digest	Monday, 10 March 1997	Volume 02 : Number 219

In this issue:
Faulty Brake Lights...Can't Be!
England, not that stupid? Yes, it was.
A note from the new DeLorean Mailing List Back Issue Guy. 
Service Center/Chapter in No California? 
Removal of Side Mouldings?
Saggy Headliner
DeLorean for Sale
Re: Saggy Headliner
Re: Caravan to Snowmass
Re: 81 or 82
Solis
Thermostat
Re: DeLorean frame
Cross Drilled Rotors
Recover Center Console?
Headliner Instructions CORRECTION
Tires, headliners, bolts
Re: DeLorean Tour before Expo
Re: Painted at the Factory?
Re: Faulty Brake Lights...Can't Be!
D Models in OZ
Hazard light switch
Re: Faulty Brake Lights...Can't Be!
Circuit Breakers
TURBODYNE
Pres. Message
Electric Turbo
Re: Electric Turbo

---------------------------------------------------------------------- 

From: GullWinged(AT)aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 10:50:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Faulty Brake Lights...Can't 
Be! 

>From this data, the DeLorean seems to be an accident magnet. 

>This data was just for FUN, but it does lend some credence to the "low profile 
causes accidents" theory. Perhaps the DeLorean is so low that people don't see 
when the brake lights come on. Or maybe the DeLorean brake lights are prone to 
failure.

Prone to failure?!? Say it isn't so Mike! ;) 

It took me more than six months or work on my rear lights to finally get them 
all working correctly for more than a couple of weeks at a time. Ugh!!

Chase Clark



------------------------------

From: GullWinged(AT)aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 10:50:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: England, not that stupid? 
Yes, it was. 

>And I was really thinking about how the British Government threw the dies for 
the delorean panels in the ocean... Now come on... Those people were not that 
stupid... They have to still have them because any idiot would know how valuable 
those dies would be when the parts were not available!!!! Doesn't that make 
sense... Maybe they hid the dies to make the car more valuable??? 

Well, yes they were that stupid. But let's be fair to the British Government.
They took this action after investing more than $115 million dollars in a car
company that failed after producing less than 10,000 automobiles. To add injury
to insult, it was reported that Consoliated Industries was considering setting up
shop making DeLoreans in the U.S. after the company bought out the remaining
stock of cars and parts when DMC filed for bankruptcy. THAT was the last straw
and they then somehow obtained the dies from the French company that stamped
the body panels and dumped them in the North Sea. 

Chase



------------------------------

From: backissues(AT)dmcnews.com (The Back Issue Guy)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 09:41:26 +0000
Subject: A note from the new DeLorean Mailing List Back Issue Guy. 

Hello DeLorean Mailing List!

As James Espey has said before, I have taken responsibility for the DML Back 
Issues. I know that the back issues are a unequaled source of information on the 
DeLorean and that not having access to them must have been rather irritating.

That won't be the norm though! I took this job fully understanding that, just 
like the Post Office, the Issues would 'just keep coming and coming.' I will keep 
the Back Issues as current as possible, as I get how from school around 3-4:00 
and its takes some time for me to get going, the latest issues should normally 
be up the afternoon they are posted.

In the attempt to get all the issues up on the web I was wondering if someone 
on the list could forward DML #118, and #161-163? The rest of the missing ones 
I have and will post as soon as I get the others. (trust me!)

As always, any ideas or comments can be directed to "backissues(AT)dmcnews.com" and I will 
get back to you A.S.A.P.

Many thanks to James for letting me take this on and many thanks to the list 
for supporting me in this project. 

- -Ian Haddock

________________________________________ 
Ian Haddock
backissues(AT)dmcnews.com

The DeLorean Mailing List Back Issue Guy. 

Visit: http://www2.inow.com/~ian/index.html 
Vintage Volkswagen, Macintosh, DeLorean. 




------------------------------

From: Eddy Cue 
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 11:53:51 -0800
Subject: Service Center/Chapter in No California? 

Does anyone have know of and/or have experience with a service center in the 
Northern California area (preferably South Bay)? I had taken my car to Motoring 
Performnace once several years ago, but I understand they no longer service 
DeLoreans.

Also, is there interest in starting a owners chapter in the bay area? I asked 
this a year ago, but got only two replies. 

Eddy Cue
cue(AT)apple.com


------------------------------

From: GullWinged(AT)aol.com
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 19:04:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Removal of Side Mouldings?

Hello everyone.

I am wanting to know if anyone has any knowledge/experience with the removal of 
the side rubber mouldings on the DeLorean? I am needing to remove mine in the 
near future and am curious if they are attached to the body or just mounted 
with adhesive strips? If you have removed the impact moulding strips, then did 
you have any problems reinstalling them (either because of damage from removal 
or problems finding the right adhesive)? 

As always, TIA!!

~Chase



------------------------------

From: magriese(AT)vnet.IBM.COM
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 14:56:56 CST
Subject: Saggy Headliner

You have a couple of options for repairing headliners with sagging material. The 
headliners are plastic shells covered with a foam-backed material. The material 
is held in place with spray adhesive. Over time, the foam backing degrades and 
the material starts to sag. To repair the headliners, you can either send them 
to DeLorean One where they will be restored with material that is an idential 
match to the original. As I recall, it costs about $70 per panel. Or, you can 
take the headliner (in or out of the car) to any competant automotive upholstery 
shop. They will be able to recover the headliners with material that is a very 
close match to the original. Mine were about $40 for the pair. If you are 
concerned about Concours level originality, DeLorean One is the way to go, if 
you just want to keep the headliner out of your hair, hit the phone directory.

Mike Griese
magriese(AT)vnet.ibm.com



------------------------------

From: Scott Tester  Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 07:52:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: DeLorean for Sale

This ad claims that the DeLorean was painted at the factory. Am I wrong to think 
that they were only painted by the dealers or owners? 

http://cenpenn.com/swedish/delorean.htm

Scott Tester testersd(AT)appstate.campus.mci.net 



------------------------------

From: ausmith(AT)pdx.oneworld.com
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 21:51:01 +0000
Subject: Re: Saggy Headliner

O.K. a couple of comments. My shells are not plastic. They're some kind of fiber 
impregnated with resin stuff. I'd go with a local shop unless you're a fanatic, 
D1's prices are crazy. 

In CA last week I saw a sign that gave me a good laugh, 

"When I die, I want to go quietly in my sleep, like my Grandfather did. Not 
yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." 

Chris


------------------------------

From: raddad(AT)cmn.net
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 12:32:36 -0700
Subject: Re: Caravan to Snowmass

A number of us are planning a grand DeLorean tour the week prior to the Expo. We 
plan to meet in K.C. on the Saturday prior and then tour through Kansas, a part 
of Colorado, Santa Fe and then back into Colorado to Snowmass. Details are about 
finished. Will post to this group as soon as possible. We would love to have 
company. I suspect we are already looking
at about 6 cars meeting in K.C.
Most of us have done this before and it is a very good group. 

Isn't this what owning a DeLorean is all about? 

Dick Ryan
The Rad Dad




------------------------------

From: Phillip124(AT)aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 00:39:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: 81 or 82

>I was thinking of getting customized plates for my D and I thought of a = question. 
My D is #6810 and has a build date of Nov 81 but the car is = registered as an 82. 
Since I was thinking of getting a number on the = license plate to represent the 
year and I was wondering was others from = the late 81 era considered the year of 
their car to really be. 

Your car can't be an '82. My car has a vin # of 7134, and it was built in Nov 81 
as well. All of the documents on the car say '81. 


------------------------------

From: Mpeak(AT)aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 00:43:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: Solis

A very big thanks to Dick Ryan for pointing out a product called "solis." 
I
talked to the person in charge of solis, which is made by a company called 
Southwall, and it seems like a perfect fix for extending the life of our interiors. 
It is, as Dick pointed out, completely clear so, even though it
is technically illegal to put it on the windshield, a police officer probably
wouldn't notice. The person I talked to is named Mark Sharpstein. He was very 
helpful not only in solis information but also in recommending installation 
facilities (as solis is more difficult to install than regular
window tinting). Mark's number is 415-962-9111. I am planning on having solis 
installed sometime next month at a place highly recommended by Mark located in 
Fremont, CA. I'll report on the difference in heat after I have
it done.

Matt


------------------------------

From: "Joel Matos"  Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 08:18:53 -0400
Subject: Thermostat

Have somebody in the list experience removing the thermostat in the Delo i live 
in a hot place (75 - 95 degrees).I removed in my other car 9 years ago
(Honda Accord) and work fine never get hot. comments

calypso(AT)tld.net
Vin # 3476
Puerto Rico


------------------------------

From: Chad Kingsley  Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 23:31:59 -0800
Subject: Re: DeLorean frame

At 11:29 AM 3/7/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I have a 81 Delorean frame that I would like to sell. It is just the frame,
>no suspention parts are on it.It does however have the gas tank. The frame is
>missing the driver side rear support piece that is behind the shock tower, but 
otherwise very little rust.Will consider all offers. thanks Jon-Eric



I am looking at buying an 81 delorean the seller is asking $6,000 for it. The car 
needs a new frame and new tires. Do you think the car is worth $6k
with the frame being competely shot? By the way how much are you asking for
your frame?

Chad Kingsley



------------------------------

From: Mpeak(AT)aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 00:42:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Cross Drilled Rotors

Listen up everybody who wants better brake rotors... 

A couple of monthes ago I set out trying to find superior replacement rotors
(vented and cross drilled) to the ones that came on the car and the ones that
the specialty shops are selling. Since these rotors are cheap, solid, single
rotors, they tend to overheat and warp. Machining them temporarily fixes the
problem, but now that the rotors are even thinner, they disapate heat even less 
and warp faster.

Finally, a couple of days ago, I was able to locate the manufacturer that makes 
the Delorean rotors. I learned that the Delorean rotors are domestically Delorean 
specific (I say domestically because I have heard unconfirmed rumors that the 
rotors also came on a European Mercury Capri). 
No other manufacturer had Delorean rotors (and I cross referenced quite a few), 
therefore I am pretty confident that this is the same supplier that supplies the 
Delorean specialty shops.

This supplier told me something that I had suspected which is because the 
Delorean single rotors are so narrow, there isn't enough room to put in a vented 
rotor. In order to do that you would need to replace the calipers and
master cylinder also, which I think Don at Delorean Motor Center does for a
pretty penny. However, the supplier also told me that if I could get a minimum 
of about nine other people together (me being the tenth), he could cross drill 
these drop-in replacement rotors. Cross drilling doesn't disapate heat as 
thoroughly as vented rotors, but they are lighter, provide
much better overall stopping power (especially in the rain), and disapate heat 
MUCH better than solid rotors thus making them last longer. This is why
racecars use them.

Surprisingly, the price will be about the same (probably a couple dollars higher) 
as the specialty shops prices for their solid rotors. This supplier
will only sell to established companies, but I think I can find a way around
this. If not, then I will pass the information along to Rob Grady or Don at
DMC (I'd anticipate through them the price would be significantly higher). 

First things first. Anybody who is interested in cross drilled rotors, drop
me a line. After (or if) I get ten people, I will call the guy back and try
to work out the details.

Matt


------------------------------

From: "John W. Herron"  Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 19:08:34 -0700
Subject: Recover Center Console?

Hello fellas,

Anyone ever re-cover their center console? If so, any info would be greatly 
appreciated. Mine has taken a beating above the center vents. 

Have a nice weekend.

John
DOA So. Cal


------------------------------

From: James Espey 
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 97 10:31:24 -0000
Subject: Headliner Instructions CORRECTION 

Last week I mentioned Ray Haugs excellent "How-to" for recovering the headliners 
and said it was in Back Issue #138 - it is actualy in Back issue 139. My apologies 
to anyone who may have been misled down the back issue path.

http://www.goodnet.com/~mikasa/dml139.html 


James "Mikasa" Espey
Just because it's always been done that way does not make it right. 



------------------------------

From: gt-roadracer(AT)juno.com (GUY T AVELLON) Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 14:52:02 EST
Subject: Tires, headliners, bolts

RE: Tires Headliners,etc
James Espey is correct about the Yokohama tires. I spent time researching 
compatible sizes and tread styles and their compounds that I decided on the AVS 
tires. There are, or were the Intermediates which were more for dry environments 
then there was the + 4 for a combination of conditions. This is the tire I chose 
to run the Cannonball One-Lap in 91 because of the funky looking assymetrical 
tread design. The way this x-road racer loves to drive, I needed some confidence 
for wet weather. The V rating will not give you the tire life of your family 
sedan, but we're talking form-fit-and-function. They do VERY nicely in dry and 
wet. Never mix tires;i.e. put a V in front and H rating on the rear as the front 
will stick better than the rear and lead to oversteer bigtime. Normal driving 
should make the tires last....if you're normal.My headliners were replaced 3 
years ago. My mechanic when I lived in OH was Bauerle Automotive (good source 
for the rear pivot bolts-changes a single shear connection to a double shear 
joint which is about 100% stronger, ran the Cannonball at race tracks with no 
effect, except that the car handles almost as well as my Formula V or Ford did...
long time ago). He sent them to an upholsterer who matched the material perfectly. 
maybe $35 apiece?
Had the shift link bolt break once. Nothing like finding a bolt on the garage 
floor and wondering whereinthehell it came from....until later. Take it from 
a "fastener" engineer, never double nut anything that did not come that way, 
like a heim joint. Locktite is good but for small fasteners that you cannot 
tighten properly; i.e. it is useless on Grade 8 or 10.9bolts larger than 1/2" 
or 12mm in diameter. Use lock nuts, the best being an all steel prevailing 
torque type as it is reusable. A nylon collar nut is also good but not for reuse. 
While I'm at it, NEVER replace any bolt with a head marking of 8.8 or 10.9 
(three lined Grade 5 or six lined Grade 8 in the inch series) with a stainless 
steel bolt!! Your basic austenitic 300 series steels are NOT strong, they are 
tough, corrosion resistant and heat resistant, but NOT STRONG. They are only 
around 85ksi tensile compared with 120 and 150ksi, respectively. Well, enough 
for now, got to clear away the cob webs and get the steed ready for the St. 
Patty's Day Parade!! Good driving PS Please Torque your wheels! An impact gun
will warp rotors and crack wheels. 

GT Avellon

------------------------------

From: GullWinged(AT)aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 20:48:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: DeLorean Tour before Expo

>A number of us are planning a grand DeLorean tour the week prior to the Expo. We 
plan to meet in K.C. on the Saturday prior and then tour through Kansas, a part of 
Colorado, Santa Fe and then back into Colorado to Snowmass. Details are about 
finished. Will post to this group as soon as possible. We would love to have 
company. I suspect we are already looking at about 6 cars meeting in K.C.

Sounds like a fun trip. I live in Columbia, Missouri along I-70 about 100 miles 
away from K.C. Maybe my DeLorean and I will be able to go on the journey with 
you guys.

Chase Clark



------------------------------

From: GullWinged(AT)aol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 20:48:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Painted at the Factory?

>This ad claims that the DeLorean was painted at the factory. Am I wrong to think 
that they were only painted by the dealers or owners? 

Most likely. JZD and DMC were experimenting with both translucent paints and 
colored plastic body panels, but none were ever used on productions cars sold 
to the public. There is a chance this is one of the 'experimental' cars, but I 
find that to be a VERY SLIM chance indeed. 

BTW, I just checked out the web site
 and sent an email to them informing 
them politely of their mistake and requesting that it be corrected as it tends 
to mislead and further confuse the history of the DMC-12. I would advise that 
others on this list do as well and maybe they will listen.

Chase Clark

"The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight 
in shining armor to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos 
neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, 
led them into it in the first place."
- Douglas Adams, on Windows 95




------------------------------

From: backissues(AT)dmcnews.com (The Back Issue Guy)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 16:26:51 +0000
Subject: Re: Faulty Brake Lights...Can't Be! 

At 10:50 AM 3/7/97, GullWinged(AT)aol.com wrote: [snip]
>>Or maybe the DeLorean brake lights are prone to failure.

>Prone to failure?!? Say it isn't so Mike! ;) 

>It took me more than six months or work on my rear lights to finally get them all 
working correctly for more than a couple of weeks at a time. Ugh!!

>Chase Clark

What's the most common failure in the DMC's rear light cluster? Is there something 
to look out for or something preventative we could do? 

thanks,
Ian

________________________________________ Ian Haddock
backissues(AT)dmcnews.com

The DeLorean Mailing List Back Issue Guy. 

Visit: http://www2.inow.com/~ian/index.html Vintage Volkswagen, Macintosh, DeLorean. 




------------------------------

From: "Richard T. Haslewood"  Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 18:04:40 +1000
Subject: D Models in OZ

Australia DeLorean Fans,
If you would be interested in owning a BTTF DeLorean model like the ones you've 
been reading about in the list, there's a hobby store in western Sydney that sells 
all three movie versions in the 1/24 scale for about $40Aus. They also sell a 
smaller motorised car for $25Aus. The instructions
are in Japanese, so you'll have to build it according to the illustrations.
The place is called "Sherriff's Mini-cars" and the address is 83 Henry St.
Penrith, NSW. They also have an extensive collection of other models, diecast 
cars, matchbox cars and miscellaneous collectibles such as old trading cards, 
rare toys, etc. Aside from that, that also sell movie collectibles such as 
Terminator and Alien models, the Ghostbuster's Hearse,
etc.
In the window, they have a BTTF part 3 DeLorean which has been built and painted 
and looks really cool. Although, the one in the window has white-wall tyres on 
it but you don't get those in the kit, you only get the
train wheels. But the motorised part 3 has white-walls. 
Another BTTF DeLorean they have there is similar to the motorised one, but 
instead of being plastic it's metal, this one's worth about $75Aus (they only 
have two I think, because they're extremely rare). 
I hope this info is of any use to you fellow fans in Australia, it beats paying 
an extra 20 bucks to get them overseas. 

See you in the future...or the past...or something like that Troy R. Haslewood
Richmond, NSW


------------------------------

From: Dan Berglund 
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 01:19:10 -0800
Subject: Hazard light switch

While cleaning up my car a bit I noticed that the Headlight switch has a small 
peice of blue plastic behind it there for illuminating it blue when the lights 
are on. I was just wondering if the Hazard light switch is supposed to have a 
similar peice?

Thanks,

Dan Berglund

Vin # 6623

------------------------------

From: raddad(AT)cmn.net
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 11:35:58 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Faulty Brake Lights...
Can't Be! 

>At 10:50 AM 3/7/97, GullWinged(AT)aol.com wrote: [snip]
>>>Or maybe the DeLorean brake lights are prone to failure.

>>Prone to failure?!? Say it isn't so Mike! ;) 

>>It took me more than six months or work on my rear lights to finally get them 
all working correctly for more than a couple of weeks at a time. Ugh!!

>>Chase Clark

>What's the most common failure in the DMC's rear light cluster? Is there 
something to look out for or something preventative we could do? 

>thanks,
>Ian
>________________________________________ 
>Ian Haddock
>backissues(AT)dmcnews.com
>The DeLorean Mailing List Back Issue Guy. 
>Visit: http://www2.inow.com/~ian/index.html 
>Vintage Volkswagen, Macintosh, DeLorean. 


Ian there are two approaches. If you have the original circuit boards, first 
take them out. Them clean the contact with a rubber eraser or some spry on 
contact cleaner, or both. Then get a punch or small phillips screwdriver and 
"punch" the rivets and the connector rivet. These have a tendency to vibrate 
loose over time. The other approach is to get one of the new "industrial strength" 
sets from Rob Grady or DeLorean One. 

The problem is the result of vibrations and the worse the roads you drive on, 
the more common the problem. I live at the end of 2 miles of gravel road and 
I am very familiar with this problem. 

BTW, Ian, this is written on a Mac & I own a 68 Type III in addition to my DMC.

Dick Ryan




------------------------------

From: Mpeak(AT)aol.com
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 20:42:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Circuit Breakers

Can somebody please send me a list of which circuit breakers need to be replaced 
with thread-type circuit breakers and what their respective amp ratings should be? 
I have various stories form "they all need to be 40 amp
thread type" to "one 40 amp, two 25 amp," etc. etc. 

Thanks in advance,
Matt


------------------------------

From: Mpeak(AT)aol.com
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 20:42:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: TURBODYNE

I received the information about the Turbodyne electronic supercharger in the
mail and am not sure what to think of it. The system claims a 30% increase
in power and a maximum of 4 p.s.i. boosting the power to 176 HP, as opposed
to a turbocharger's 50% at 6 p.s.i. and 203 HP. At first glance I thought that 
it would not be possible to put it on the Delorean because of the whopping 95 
amps of electricity that it consumes. However, the brochure later said the 
electronic system only runs when the engine is at full throttle. Both of these 
features seem a little bothersome: sucking out 95
amps off and on, off and on would put a tremendous strain on the alternator.
While the system was operating, the alternator would be overworked. When the 
system wasn't operating, the alternator would have to charge the juice sucked 
from the battery. Also, it seems it would become an annoyance only having the 
unit operate at full throttle. In terms of acceleration and passing, it would 
be all or nothing. As far as value goes, you are paying $37 per increase in H.P. 
as oppposed to about $44 per H.P. on a single turbo
and $74 per H.P. on a twin. But I don't know if the limitations on the system 
are worth it.

Matt


------------------------------

From: Mpeak(AT)aol.com
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 20:45:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: Pres. Message

As far as the president's message in the recent Delorean world...I liked the
overall message of, what I interpreted it as, "drive you car". But as far as
the value goes, don't believe a word of it. In an old Delorean world article
from 1992, Ed informed a newspaper writer that five years from now (this year, 
1997) the average Delorean will be selling for $40,000 and ten to fifteen years 
from now, it will be selling for $100,000. I am pretty confident that neither 
one of those predictions will come true. Sure, Ed may
be raising HIS prices to those levels specified in the recent Delorean World,
but the average $15,000 Delorean of today just won't be worth that amount in
the years to come. Ed knows this too. It is good (but unethical) business
to create an illusion of unbelievable appreciability to pursuade perspective
customers to buy now rather than later, i.e. "jump on the bandwagon while you
still can."

Just what will make the Delorean go up in value? Well, my thoughts are that
the only things I can forsee increasing the value of our cars is if John 
Delorean were to come out with some new product, receive publicity from it,
and thus have the DMC-12 caught in the coat-tails of it's publicity/popularity. 
The other thing that may increase the value of the car
is when the car officially becomes a classic in 2006 when it turns 25. 
Remember, though, that throughout the 1980's a series of extremely popular
movies were made which co-starred the Delorean but had little to no affect on
the value. The value has been constant for ten years. So accurate predictions 
about the value are extremely difficult to make. 

I, for one, am not to concerned with the value of the car. Although I would
not mind my car increasing in value and do not plan on abusing it so it wouldn't 
do so,I did not purchase my car as an investment. I purchased it for enjoyment. 
If the two happen to go hand in hand, so be it. 

Matt


------------------------------

From: WINGD2(AT)aol.com
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 23:38:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Electric Turbo

I just recieved some info on the electric turbo unit that was a subject
on the mailing list a while back. The unit is called "Turbopac" and is made
by Turbodyne Co in CA. It is distributed by Grand Tech Inc in the USA.
(805-383-6720).
It comes in three models. #1200 is for motorcycles and small autos,#1500
for autos up to 5.0 liter and #2500 for large trucks. The #2500 runs on 24 
volts while the other units are 12 volt. According to the info the #1200 specs 
are: 3psi boost, 6# per min airflow, 12 volt, 75 amp current draw. The
#1500 specs are: 4psi boost, 6# per min airflow, 12 volt, 95 amp current draw. 
These units spool up from 0 to 30,000 rpm in 1/3 second so there is supposed to 
be no turbo lag. The current draw on spoolup is approx 10amp more
than the above listed running current draw. These units were not designed for
constant operation, only for short times during acceleration. During normal
driving use these units do not run. They are activated by a micro switch which 
can be installed either on the throttle linkage or on the dash for manual 
operation.They appear (from the picture) to be approx the same size as
a "regular" turbo unit, about 6"-9" dia. They can be mounted in any posistion
and only require modifications to the intake system. They locate between the
air filter unit and the carb or fuel injection unit. 
The company claims a approx 30% power increase. Cost on these units, which come 
in kit form with the micro switch, wiring and misc, is: #1200 = $1500 and 
#1500 = $1580ea. They come with a 2 year / 50,000 mile warrenty. The info also 
says that for greater performance twin Turbopac's can be used.
(I think us Delorean owners would also need an optional Flux Capacitor, but
thats a whole different story.)
If anyone has further intrest just give them a call, 805-383-6720. Harry
Hibler is the president of Grand Tech Inc. 
Later, Marty

------------------------------

From: Jameel Ahed 
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 08:21:20 -0600
Subject: Re: Electric Turbo

How about the original turbo John Z was going to put in the car... Can we obtain 
one of those units??? It was to make the car go from 0-60 in 5.3 seconds. VIN#502 
has it!!! I want it too! Well... how about those other turbos... I don't care to 
much for the electric turbo... I want one I could add on! In the back of my 
Delorean world there is an add for one... is this one good??? How much more power 
does it really give???? and HOW MUCH IS IT!!!

- --
- -------------------------------------------------- 
Jameel Ahed owner of CyberTECH Industries 
Consultant for VOITECH Computer Solutions 
HOMEPAGE: http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~ahed/ 
VOITECH: http://www.voitech.com
EMAIL: mailto:ahed(AT)uiuc.edu
- -------------------------------------------------- 


------------------------------

End of dmcnews-digest V2 #219
*****************************



Go to previous digest.

Go to next digest.

Back to DeLorean Mailing List Page.
Return to March 1997 Back Issue page.

Having problems with these pages? Have a good idea for the back Issues?
Email the the Back Issue Guy, Ian Haddock.


LinkExchange
Member of the LinkExchange