DeLorean Mailing List - 3/25/96
dmcnews-digest Tuesday, 25 March 1997 Volume 02 : Number 224
In this issue:
Re: MUFFLER NEEDED!!!
Re: VIN# 2273
New DeLorean website
RE: DOA Board
British vs Arthur Andersen
Turbo-Knock
Re:D.O.A.
Re: Free Tech Events for DOA Members
Sinclair DMC12 Model
Squeaks, Warbles, Hiccups & ????
Lightweight Sports Car - NOT!
Automatic Doors
Re: Squeaks, Warbles, Hiccups & ????
Re: DOA
Philanthropy
RE:Need help with door locks
Re: steering wheel tilt position.
Re: steering wheel tilt position.
Re: Free Tech Events for DOA Members
DOC?
How to organize NJ events?
Re: Draining a Fuel Tank Easily
Getting together in NJ
RE: Need help with door locks
Removing Paint on Fascia & Black DMC's
Looking for a fellow DMLer
Replacing Rear Brake Pads
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From: DMC12JR@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:15:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: MUFFLER NEEDED!!!
even though they are stainless they will get rust that will stick to it. The
welds will also rust out!
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From: GullWinged@aol.com
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 13:46:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: VIN# 2273
>I finally got the Vin#, it is 2273. The first owner was in the club.
Based on the VIN#, I would hazard a guess that it was produced in June 1981,
since my DeLorean is VIN#1529 and was built in May, 1981 (which if I remember
correctly was only the second month of production). While speaking to Jerry Rine
at KAPAC he stated the quality of the early cars was horrible to put it mildly.
ROne was working for DMC at the time and would definitely knwo how they compared
to the ones that rolled off the line later in the short production run fo the
DMC-12.
Personally, I find the quality of the car to be exceptional considering that it
was made in Ireland at a new plant, with workers previously untrained in such
jobs. Throw in the fact that the car has many British parts and that there was
practically no true endurance testing of the DeLorean prototypes, nor was there
a sufficient trial run to work out any glitches at the factory, and I am very
pleased.
Most problems I have experienced with my daily-driving DeLorean are either to
be expected on any 16-year-old car, or were caused as a result of poor
workmanship by American mechanics over the years.
But as with any product - cars, computers, etc., early production models tend
to have more bugs than later ones so you are always taking a chance. And every
company produces a 'lemon' every now and then. I guess I am saying that none of
us can tell you for sure what that car will be like with any certainty. You
previously said you have only owned NEW cars. The DeLorean is far from new
anymore. Expect problems - many little and annoying ones if you are a
perfectionist and some major ones as well. Parts do wear out. That is a fact of
life.
Once again, Good Luck Jameel!!
Chase Clark
Q: How many Microsoft engineers does it take to change a light bulb? A: None. They
just redefine darkness as the industry standard
and flame Macintosh users for seeing the light.
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From: "Back to the Future...The Fan Club"
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 23:32:03 -0600
Subject: New DeLorean website
DMC List:
We're developing a BTTF DeLorean page off of our new website, and in
attempt to make it an important resource of information for BTTF enthusiasts
and DeLorean buffs alike, I'd like to approach the list for suggestions as to the
type of information you all would like to see there. We've got a ton
of material to organize and publish on the BTTF DeLorean time machine, and while
I realize that the majority of DMC owners are not big fans of the modified
DeLorean nor the BTTF series, I would appreciate any serious suggestions from
those of you who are.
Right now, all we've got on there so far is the time machine "blue prints", and
while we have a relatively good idea as to what else will is be
published on the site, we'd still like to know what would be interesting to
everyone who'd be interested in the modified DeLorean.
Thanks for your time and advice. Feel free to review our entire site at
"http://www.bttf.com/". We'll see you in the "Future"!
To Be Continued...
Stephen M. Clark, President
Back to the Future=99...The Fan Club
P.O. Box 880
Athens, AL 35612-0880 U.S.A.
Voice/Fax: (205) 230-6288
E-mail: time@traveller.com
Website: http://www.bttf.com/
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From: CDIUSAMPS@aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 05:33:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: RE: DOA Board
OUCH!!! Did I get spanked or what? My apologies for mentioning what I thought
were legitimate concerns about the DOA. I really do want to apologize to James
and the participants in the DML for starting this. I think it is best if MR.
Haug and I take this off line. I will let him give
you the results. BILL (???)
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From: Scott Sykes
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 20:01:19 -0500
Subject: British vs Arthur Andersen
The Philadelphia Inquirer onlined edition had a short piece on the British
Government's latest suit against the DMC auditor Arthur Andersen. The URL is
below.
http://www2.phillynews.com/inquirer/97/Mar/23/business/FISH23.htm
I found the following quote interesting.
"The DeLorean Motor Co. was founded in 1975 to build the 12-cylinder, gull-winged,
stainless-steel DMC-12 sports car. "
Last time I checked there were only 6. Guess I should sue for my 6 missing
cylinders ;-)
Scott
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From: ausmith@pdx.oneworld.com
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 07:35:20 +0000
Subject: Turbo-Knock
I had the knock in mine too. My solution was to design a water injection system
that kills it. A friend has been after me to write an article describing it and
I will soon, after I get my taxes figured out! I have a strong tendency to
procrastinate.
At any rate, I anyone would like a copy when I get it done send me a SASE. I
would guess my cost at around $35.00 for all the parts necessary to do just
the water injection. BTW, hint, it's powered by the turbos.
Chris Shepherd
P.O. Box 69
Nehalem, OR 97131
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From: ausmith@pdx.oneworld.com
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 07:24:06 +0000
Subject: Re:D.O.A.
I concur with Marvin Sterling and CDIUSAMPS. I will not be renewing my membership
in the D.O.A.. Don't include the upper left coast in your criticism, please. I
live in Oregon and we have the same problems.
It really doesn't matter whether you get the latest DeLorean World or not. Another
travel publication is not what we need.
Chris
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From: Raymond_Haug@lamg.com (Raymond Haug) Date: 22 Mar 1997 10:27:37 GMT
Subject: Re: Free Tech Events for DOA Members
On 3/21/97 at 7:48 PM, dmcnews@world.std.com wrote:
d> Thats what I thought...certain entities/persons may prevent and/or d>
discourage such helpful events. Money and politics should not play an d> integral
role in our organization. This disappointments very d> much...especially when
were supposed to help each other. d>
d> Any Directors wish to comment on this matter?
John/Louis:
Activities of the DeLorean Owners Association are planned and organized by HARD
WORKING VOLUNTEERS that step forward and offer to HELP, rather than sit
behind a computer terminal and simply make "unsupported statements" about what
they think is going on. I would encourage you to join us in the National Board
meeting the first Sunday of each month in the Peterson Museum
(See the Web Page), and see first hand what it really takes to run the best
organization in the world for DeLorean owners and enthusiasts.
Now as far as organizing a local technical event, I would be pleased to have
you organize such an event. Our Chapter 12 meetings are held immediately following
the National Board meetings, usually around 4:30 pm. Please come
to our next meeting and share what you would like to do to help the Association
members in the Los Angeles area.
Ray Haug
Chapter 12 Coordinator
DeLorean Owners Association
e-mail: Raymond_Haug@lamg.com
Phone/FAX: 818-547-3638
- - via BulkRate 2.5
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From: Murray Fisher
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 22:27:24 -0800
Subject: Sinclair DMC12 Model
I ordered a model of a car I owned previously (a 36 Cord) and told Sinclair's that
if they ever
came up with a model Delorean DMC-12, that probably quite a few of the owners would
be
interested. They said they would contact some of their suppliers and if anyone was
interested
they would let me know.
Today I received their new catalog and they have highlighted the following listing:
The VF Special Collection
$25 deposit each model with order, balance when ready for delivery. VF-0001 DeLOREAN
DMC12 Price TBA
They also list 5 other cars which all have prices in the $275 range. Pretty high
and no other
descriptions. I am familiar with their quality however and would expect great and
accurate
detail and with doors, hoods etc all operating and a detailed engine....I am just
guessing at this
and have written them for more details. Personally, this is more than I would want
to pay for a
model but maybe someone out there is interested.
You can write them at Sinclair's Mini-Auto Box 8403 Erie, Pa 16505
Phone (814)838-2274
I will advise via this listing anything else I hear.
Murray
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From: GullWinged@aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 00:33:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Squeaks, Warbles, Hiccups & ????
Well spring is finally arriving here in Missouri and I have decided to get serious
about diagnosing four noises in my car. I doubt that any of them are serious
problems, but they all annoy me slightly when driving the car.
First off: THE SQUEAK
This happens periodically when driving the car, specifically when pressing in the
clutch. It is either from the clutch pedal itself or somewhere inside the pedal
box. Everything works fine, it just makes a noise periodically.
Secondly: THE HICCUP
If I sit in the car and when press the brake pedal slowly, at some point about
halfway in the pedal travel there will this almost imperceptible noise coming
from somewhere around the pedal to the master cylinder. My car's brakes have
always been rather weak to my taste, but I have a history of never liking the
brakes in any of the car's I've owned since my two MG Midgets.
Thirdly: THE WARBLE
This one worries me a little, but I am thinking it might be related to the
"CLUNK" sound that is so common from the rear axles of the DeLoreans. When
making a lefthand turn, I can hear this noise faintly coming from the passenger
side of the rear axle or wheel assembly. It disappears when the steering wheel
is return to the normal position.
Lastly: THE UNNAMED
I have noticed two things about my steering wheel and have not found a solution
to either. The wheel/steering column makes a combination of noises when turning
the wheel because it is rubbing against peices of the dash somewhere. If I tilt
the steering wheel all the way up so that I can see all my dash gauges, the
problem is anoying to the extreme.
Also, I seem unable to tilt the steering wheel to where I like it and get it to
stay there for more than a week or two. It always slowly lowers itself back down.
I have tightened by hand harder than I feel comfortable doing because the
mechanism has a plastic handle. Anyone else have this problem or know of solutions?
As always, THANKS!!
Chase Clark
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From: GullWinged@aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:28:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Lightweight Sports Car - NOT!
>Mike Substelny wrote a long time ago... The last thing anyone wants in a sports
car is a lot of weight!
A true, but otherwise interesting statement. The DeLorean at 2800+ pounds is
anything but your average lightweight sports car. Someone once told me that the
SS304 panels are about 30 percent heavier than the same panels in regular steel
would be and about 15 percent more expensive. Or maybe I got those numbers
reversed. I don't remember for sure which way it went. Throw in the fiberglass
sub-body and the DMC-12 rides pretty hefty on the scales for a car of its low
height and speedy looks.
Which quite naturally is why so many of us here on the DML are keenly interested
in turbochargers or anything else that will give the car a bit more peppy nature.
Chase Clark
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From: "Brandon S. Moody" Date: Sun, 23 Mar 97 12:49:54 PST
Subject: Automatic Doors
Has anyone every attempted to convert the doors to automatic/remote controll
operation ? I just thought it would be cool. I have a 1975 Brickin which I have
installed a series of relays and a viper alarm system to open and close the
doors
(it was really simple on the Bricklin since the doors are already power).
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From: "Marvin S. Sterling" Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997
01:11:37 -0800
Subject: Re: Squeaks, Warbles, Hiccups & ????
GullWinged@aol.com wrote:
>Well spring is finally arriving here in Missouri and I have decided to get
serious about diagnosing four noises in my car. I doubt that any of them are
serious problems, but they all annoy me slightly when driving the car.
(SNIP)
>Also, I seem unable to tilt the steering wheel to where I like it and get it
to stay there for more than a week or two. It always slowly lowers itself back
down. I have tightened by hand harder than I feel comfortable doing because the
mechanism has a plastic handle. Anyone else have this problem or know of
solutions?
>As always, THANKS!!
>Chase Clark
- -----------------------------------
Yup ! Chase if you find a way to keep the steering column where you want it let
me know. I tighten and tighten and it slowly lowers by about 2-3 inches no matter
what.
Best regards,
Marv Sterling
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From: Mpeak@aol.com
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 00:30:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: DOA
Since I joined the Delorean Owners Association in September, I too have noticed
what an extremely political organization it is. To say that the association caters
to California owners is an overstatement. I live in Northern California and there
is little evidence of the DOA despite the fact
that the Delorean was designed for California and there are 150 DOA members
up here. I have talked to Millie Bernstein and other DOA officials about starting
a Northern California club and have been blown off each time with excuses such as
"it is extremely difficult to get a chapter off the ground"
and "we are reconsidering the chapter structure and will let you know what happens."
At the center of the politicalization of the DOA lies Ed Bernstein, and anybody
who doesn't believe this is fooling themselves. The DOA, being the
largest Delorean owners group in the world, has incredible potential that is
not being met. The association can be far more than a social organization but not
with Ed Bernstein in a position of power.
Ed is the limiting factor in achieving the potential of the association. A
perfect example of this is Delorean World Magazine (or should I say Delorean
One Quarterly). Although I enjoyed reading Don Gowler's, James Espey's, and
other articles in the magazine, there is an absense of variety and Delorean
specific technical knowledge in the magazine. Instead of a poorly written article
about how a clutch works, why not apply the knowledge to the Delorean, comparing
several different authorities' opinions on differences/pros/cons of the OEM v.s.
Centerforce clutch in the same objective manner as other magazines review
products? Why not write about the
innovations that different shops have applied to higher quality Delorean products
such as Don Steiger's stronger lower control arms, Rob Grady's redesigned
adjustable clutch link, Don and Rob's headlight-warping cure, aluminum v.s.
stainless steel coolant overflow bottles, stronger window regulators, and on
and on and on. Not only would this be informative to owners, but it would also
encourage a growth of innovation among Delorean suppliers. A responsibility to
inform and educate Delorean owners is replaced by Ed's suppression of knowledge
for the purpose of not diverting business away from Delorean One. In addition,
the use of the 'President's Message' column as a forum for personal business,
manipulation, and inacurate
information is the epitomy of irresponsibility.
An organization that I thouroughly respect is the Delorean Owners Club. Once
a part of the DOA as individual chapters, the Delorean Owners Club split off
from the DOA due to frustrations with what Ed Bernstein was doing to the
association. They now serve as an organization that not only offers the social
aspect that the DOA offers, but also a COMPLETE technical aspect, providing each
of their members with a cross-reference list and thorough technical support.
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From: "John W. Herron" Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 01:00:10 -0700
Subject: Philanthropy
Does the DOA have a philanthropy? Anyone know?
If not, what organization would you submit your charities?
John
DOA So. Cal
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From: GunkelWWW@aol.com
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 02:57:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: RE:Need help with door locks
>Hi all,
>My driver's side door lock is starting to annoy me. Sometimes, I'll torn the key
to 3:00, and I can see the switch inside WANTS to move, but doesn't. The passenger
side lock opens and I have to get in the car, close the passenger side door, and
rock the driver's side switch back and forth until it unlocks. This is terribly
annoying, and I don't think it's an electrical problem. I'd like to take a look
at the mechanism this weekend, so does anyone have any on-line references as to
how to take apart the door so I can get at this and look at it? Anyone else have
this problem? Thanks!
>Mike
>VIN #10213 NJ
I have the same problem... and its not electrical! Two weeks ago I openend the
door trim panels. The biggest problem was removing
the door pull handle (it's really a shame doing this job!)
After the DOOR LOCK SETTING PROCEDURES(workshop manual) the left side door
lock works better but not almost great.
I hope you find the problem (and please write the answer of your problem to
me!)
My solenoid and the interior locking switch was not set correct. I adjusted it
and the things go better.
There is still something wrong but I don't know what!?
In the workshop manual (I hope you have it) is a discription of the DOOR LOCK
SETTING PROCEDURES Here a few steps:
1 lower the power window
2 working through the window
pry upper trim panel retaining clips loose 3 remove panel
4 remove screws securing the lower trim panel mounting bracket 5 pry loose the
retaining clips lower edge of the trim panel 6 (!!!) using a long philips
screwdriver, remove two screws securing the
door handle to its mounting bracket.
remove door handle and lower trim panel
now you are there!
Markus
GunkelWWW@AOL.COM
VIN 2255 Germany (sorry for my english! :-))
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From: Mike Substelny Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 09:44:34 -0500
Subject: Re: steering wheel tilt position.
Chase said:
>I seem unable to tilt the steering wheel to where I like it and get it to stay
there for more than a week or two. It always slowly lowers itself back down. . .
Anyone else have this problem or know of solutions?
Chase, mine does the exact same thing, but I have never thought to discuss it with
anyone. I have not found a real solution. The steering wheel seems to love the
lowest possible position, and no matter what I do it goes down there every couple
of weeks.
The puzzler is that the wheel tilt mechanism does not come loose when this happens.
I need to loosen the plastic handle if I want to take it out of the low position,
and it seems just as tight as it was when I left it in the high position.
People have commented to me that the interior of the car looks better when I just
let the wheel do as it pleases and tilt all the way down. Thus I have gotten used
to the lower position and it doesn't bother me any more.
Looks like my DeLorean finally has me broken in the way it wants me.
- -Mike Substelny
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From: "Michael E. Gaines" Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:14:04 -0500
Subject: Re: steering wheel tilt position.
Hi all,
I must be the only person that doesn't have this problem. I'm tall, and I need
the wheel in the highest position possible for both legroom and clear view of my
dash. I had to adjust it only after my mechanic had it, but besides that I've
never had to adjust it. I use my car every day.
Mike
VIN 10213 NJ
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From: Louis Weiland
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 97 08:00:34 -0000
Subject: Re: Free Tech Events for DOA Members
Ray Haug wrote:
>Activities of the DeLorean Owners Association are planned and organized by HARD
WORKING VOLUNTEERS that step forward and offer to HELP, rather than
HELP? Help Ed B. sell his overpriced parts and spout his rhetoric. He even admits
in his last ad that people are put off by his attitude...shining example of
leadership? I don't think so.
>sit behind a computer terminal and simply make "unsupported statements" about
what they think is going on. I would encourage you to join us in the
Obviously, others feel the same way, Ray. The board (and therefore, DOA) has an
image problem whether they want to admit it or not.
>National Board meeting the first Sunday of each month in the Peterson Museum
(See the Web Page), and see first hand what it really takes to run the
Why not show us what it takes Ray? All of us can't fly/drive to LA from around
the country - why not post the minutes of your meetings on the web or here on
this list (you do have minutes of these meetings, right?). Why is the DOA so
secretive about its dealings? Remember that the DOA is SUPPOSED to be an
international club - why is it so So. Cal. oriented?
>best organization in the world for DeLorean owners and enthusiasts.
I think it's safe to say that the DOA is "best" only by default. It's certainly
not the BEST that it can be, especially in comparison to some other owners
groups (i.e. Porsche, Alfa, Lotus).
>Now as far as organizing a local technical event, I would be pleased to have
you organize such an event. Our Chapter 12 meetings are held immediately
following the National Board meetings, usually around 4:30 pm. Please
What you're conveniently leaving out here is that the Chapter 12 meetings are
held DURING the regular board meetings - I understand the Chapter 12 meeting
even has its own place on the "National Board Meeting" agenda...how many
non-board members attend the Chapter 12 meeting, Ray? (and no, I don't want
to count the spouses of the sitting board members).
>come to our next meeting and share what you would like to do to help the
Association members in the Los Angeles area.
Once again - "help the members in the Los Angeles area" - need I say more?
For those of you who don't know Ray - he sits on the DOA board,with his wife
Marcie (the DOA products director). Ray also runs Chapter 12 (Chapter 12's
immediate past president is Ed Bernstein). Incidentally, I'm told that the Ray
is the odds on favorite to be the next president of the DOA. Interesting, as to
my knowledge, the nomination process for the upcoming elections has not even
started yet.
Ray, would you care to explain to us ALL how the nomination process works?
Louis Weiland
NOTE TO ALL: Unfortunately, my email access is through my office and I cannot
receive email from outside the company. I don't want to put James in anymore
of an awkward position than he is already in with all this DOA talk, but I
think these are views that the DOA should know about if they ever wish to repair
their image.
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From: ausmith@pdx.oneworld.com
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:55:54 +0000
Subject: DOC?
Where is the DeLorean Owners Club? How do I go about joining? More information
please.
Chris
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From: "Michael E. Gaines" Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:00:22 -0500
Subject: How to organize NJ events?
Hi all,
With all this talk about getting chapters started, etc. I was wondering what it
takes to get ANY kind of NJ/NY/PA/CT chapter started; even if it's an unofficial
one. I don't even know if there's an interest in this area, but I figure a few
events a year couldn't be bad. Anyone know what can be organized?
I see the meeting in New Hope, PA which I'm very interested in. Hope to see some
of you there.
Mike
VIN 10213 NJ
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From: GullWinged@aol.com
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 17:53:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Draining a Fuel Tank Easily
>Mike Substelny wrote this response to a question a long time ago... That's a
good question! I have always assumed that there was no easy way to drain the
tank while it was in the car, but if anyone has a creative suggestion I would
love to hear it!
Actually, I did not have any problems with draining the tank. I picked up a
device at a national automotive store (Western Auto or Auto Zone) that kind of
resembles a bicycle air pump. However, this device has two hoses - - one for
intake and one for exhaust. It cost less than $20, is colored orange and black,
and was called Mr. Goodpump I think. It's original intention is to drain oil
from a car through the hole for the dipstick, but I found that it worked quite
well for draining several gallons of gas out of my fuel tank when I replaced
the fuel pump last spring.
Chase Clark
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From: DMC12
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 20:04:21 -0500
Subject: Getting together in NJ
With PJ Grady so close in Long Island It seems that ther would be a large interest
in owners getting together in the NJ\NY\PA area I know I am interested and I hope
that we can all get together and get something going
Doug Venner
'83 Delorean #15880
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From: GunkelWWW@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 03:09:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: RE: Need help with door locks
>Hi all,
>My driver's side door lock is starting to annoy me. Sometimes, I'll torn the
key to 3:00, and I can see the switch inside WANTS to move, but doesn't. The
passenger side lock opens and I have to get in the car, close the passenger
side door, and rock the driver's side switch back and forth until it unlocks.
This is terribly annoying, and I don't think it's an electrical problem. I'd
like to take a look at the mechanism this weekend, so does anyone have any
on-line references as to how to take apart the door so I can get at this and
look at it? Anyone else have this problem? Thanks!
>Mike
>VIN #10213 NJ
>I have the same problem... and its not electrical! Two weeks ago I openend
the door trim panels. The biggest problem was removing the door pull handle
(it's really a shame doing this job!) After the DOOR LOCK SETTING PROCEDURES
(workshop manual) the left side door lock works better but not almost great.
Now I have noticed that I can move the door lock switch (lock and unlock the
driver side door) when the door is open!? The passenger door switch only operates
when the door is closed!
Is this at your door too? Is this okay or not and what is the reason for this!?
Markus
GunkelWWW@AOL.COM
VIN 2255 Germany (sorry for my english! :-))
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From: GullWinged@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:15:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Removing Paint on Fascia & Black DMC's
I have seen this question posted several times before, but have yet to see anyone
post an answer. For those of us wanting to repaint our front and rear fascias,
how can we safely remove the paint without harming the underlying plastic? I am
planning on repainting my car and do not want to just paint over the old red paint
on each fascia.
Also, any of you who have seen a DeLorean which is painted black, woudl you please
email me regarding your opinion of how it looked. I have seen the photo of the
one on Takeuchi's DeLorean web site and it looks sharp, but I am wondering if
the all-black look provides too little contrast for the DMC-12?
Thanks again everyone!
Chase Clark
"You always have new chances and new possibilities
each and every day when you are a Mac user."
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From: GullWinged@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:15:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Looking for a fellow DMLer
I was trying to respond to an posting on the DML from a fellow whose email address
was . However, the server at eos.eos.net responded that it
was an unknown user. Does anyone know who that individual was and what is current
emali address is?
Following is the message I tried to send to him. Perhaps is rings a bell in
someone's head.
>Why is it that sometimes when I apply the brakes the D stops smoothly like it
should and other times it is like it has a mind of its own. I have had the
alignment checked & set, I have replaced both front caliper assemblies -- yes
there really is an available EXACT replacement for $30.00 ea. I have replaced
and/or had turned all 4 rotors, had one of the rear calipers rebuilt
($85.00 - rape!!) replaced the parking brake pad spreaders ( I can tell you where
to get those also). Still the same problem.
Hi. I was just cleaning up my email folder and deleting a bunch of old messages,
when I came across the above DMC post from you. I was curious if you still had
the cross-reference numbers or source for the replacement front calipers. I am
slowly putting together a cross-reference parts listing to post on the web and
would like to include this info if possible. Thanks.
Take care fellow DMC-12 owner.
Chase Clark
'81 DeLorean
VIN#1529
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From: GullWinged@aol.com
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 16:15:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: Replacing Rear Brake Pads
I have started to hear squeaking periodically from my rear brakes and am guessing
that it is finally time to replace the brake pads. I was just wanting to ask how
complicated this job is to do?
On my MG Midgets, I just removed the tire, cotter pins and pulled out the old pads
and slipped in the new pads. On my Nissna 200SX, the wheel was removed and then
the entire caliber had to be undone and rotated away before the pads could be
removed. I am hoping to DeLorean is more like the MG's than the Nissan. Anyone
care to comment?
Thanks!
Chase Clark
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