DeLorean Mailing List - 3/31/97

dmcnews-digest	Monday, 31 March 1997	Volume 02 : Number 226

In this issue:
Re: How to track a gas vapor leak
Eurofest (2 of 3)
Eurofest (1 of 3)
Eurofest (3 of 3)
Battery ground connection
Re:Running a DMC w/o battery
Owners List and Parts Data
Cruise Control ?
Re: Click Click Click
Re: DeLorean Oxymoron?
Re: Cruise Control ?
Re: gas vapor leak?
Shop List
Re: Click Click Click
Re: DeLorean Oxymoron?
Re: Click Click Click
Re: Click Click Click
Re: Shop List
Re: shop list
'81 DMC For Sale (Not Mine)
Re: DeLorean Oxymoron?
Shop list
Battery Charging
Re: gas vapor leak?
FS: DeLoreans & DMC Ball Caps
Re: owners in Michigan??

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From: James Espey 
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 97 08:25:22 -0000
Subject: Re: How to track a gas vapor leak 

>Hi all,
>On and off since I've had my car, the cockpit smells of gas vapors. Not a trace 
of gas anywhere under the car. The only evidence I have was once I removed the 
underside baffle wall that protects the gas tank. There was a spongy material on 
it that was soaked in gas, yet no evidence of where it came from. Does anyone have 
any ideas about where the gas could be leaking. The problem is that it comes from 
the front half of the car only. I never smell it in the rear of the cockpit or in 
the engine.

>Mike

A few months ago a local member had the same problem and we found a leaking fuel 
line at the fuel pump. The plastic "core" of the fuel line had broken and he had 
a small leak there. We replaced those hoses and the resulting EXCELLENT pressure 
caused the same thing to happen at the fuel accumulator which is inside the frame 
center section of the car. The difficult position of the part and less than optimum 
working conditions in his garage led him to call a flatbed and have it taken to one 
of our local service centers where the work was completed. I should add that he 
also had a fuel soaked bottom fuel tank cover. The gas had also begun to eat at 
the epoxy and allowed some rust to form. 

James


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From: James Espey 
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 97 08:09:04 -0000
Subject: Eurofest (2 of 3)

At the request of Bob Lamrock, organizer of Eurofest, I am posting details of the 
event which is coming up this May... 

James Espey

****************

Forte Posthouse Belfast
Dunmurry Belfast BT17 9BR
Telephone: 01232 612101
FAX: 01232 626546

The DeLorean Owners Association's EUROFEST '97, Thursday May 22 through Sunday 
May 25, 1997.

DEADLINE for hotel reservations is APRIL 22, 1997. Please make your reservations 
directly with the hotel.

The hotel is offering the following rates per room (double/single): Thursday, 
May 22, bed and breakfast - 79 pounds (approx. $130 US) Friday, May 23 and 
Saturday May 24, bed and breakfast - 49 pounds (approx. $80 US) We recommend 
that you use a credit card for most payments. When a charge is processed they 
will use the rate of exchange for that day.

When sending a FAX or telephoning from the U.S., you must add 011-44 to the above 
numbers and eliminate the first "0" (example: Telephone 011-44-1232 612101).

Room and rate, inclusive of VAT at the current rate, are subject to availability 
at the time of booking. For additional requirements, please contact Reception. 
The credit card number above guarantees your reservation in event of arrival 
after 4 pm. Cancellation must be made before 4 pm on day of arrival for no charge 
to be made. 


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From: James Espey 
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 97 08:03:53 -0000
Subject: Eurofest (1 of 3)

At the request of Bob Lamrock, organizer of Eurofest, I am posting details of the 
event which is coming up this May... 

James Espey

*************

The most frequent reaction from first time visitors to Belfast is that the reality 
- the very normality - of life in the city is at odds with its media image. 

The reality is a modern and forward looking capital, European in outlook and 
undergoing a renaissance in recent years which is seeing a revitalization of the 
heart of the city. The heartbeat of Belfast, civically, commercially, culturally, 
and recreationally is strong and vibrant. Although Belfast promotes itself 
through-out the world, it is said that the best ambassadors are visitors who come 
here and return home with happy tales of their stay in the province. Euro Expo 
'93 was a fine example when over 100 members of the Association from 10 different 
countries took advantage of genuine Irish hospitality. Now, four years later, 
Eurofest will attract DeLorean owners and enthusiasts from around the world to the 
birthplace of our famous marque from May 22 through May 25.

The Forte Posthouse hotel in Dunmurry will once again be the convention headquarters 
as it is situated only yards from the original factory gates.

Many of the former DeLorean managers have fond memories of the hotel and you will 
have a chance to meet them and share their stories at the opening reception on 
Thursday, May 22. Dick Mulholland the DMC body shop plant manager is already looking 
forward to meeting old friends again, and George McClurg who worked on the gold 
cars will tell you how to gold plate yours if you're keen! The only person missing 
from the opening ceremony will be John Zachary himself, but there are plans to show 
an exclusive TV interview which was recorded last year in New York.

If you've ever wondered how craftsmen manage to blow, hand cut and polish a unique 
piece of Irish crystal, then the Friday rallye is for you. Tyrone Crystal in 
Dungannon will give us a guided tour of the complete process and if you're lucky, 
you might even get a chance to cut your very own glass. I've tried and it's not as 
easy as it seems! 

The technical seminar will once again be chaired by Mike Loasby, the former DMC 
Director of product engineering, and he has agreed to present his excellent audio 
visual presentation on the manufacture of the car from start to finish.

But the weekend is not just about getting to grips with the various nuts and bolts 
Belfast has a brand new magnificent Waterfront concert hall and there's the elegant 
Victorian Grand Opera House. The program has yet to be announced and details will 
be dispatched nearer the time.

Saturday, once again promises to be the highlight of Eurofest with the visit to the 
DeLorean factory. 

I called in to see the test track just the other week and believe me there is 
nothing quite like zooming around the old track at 40 m.p.h.! The helicopter pilot 
remembers flying us over the site four years ago and he promises (weather permitting) 
another brilliant birdseye view of the factory.

The banquet will once again be held in the factory and I'm indebted to George 
Senninger, the managing director of Montupet who has kindly granted permission for 
the days events. Finally, on Sunday there's a visit to the new gallery at the Ulster 
Folk and Transport museum where the original Giugiaro wooden prototype is now on 
display. Well there you have it. As they say in Ireland, the craic will be 
mighty-hope to see you here!


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From: James Espey 
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 97 08:14:34 -0000
Subject: Eurofest (3 of 3)

At the request of Bob Lamrock, organizer of Eurofest, I am posting details of the 
event which is coming up this May... 

James Espey

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EUROFEST REGISTRATION FORM
Registration deadline - April 15, 1997

May 22 - Thursday
7:30 p.m. - 10 p.m. Welcoming
Reception and Registration - Forte
Crest Hotel, Dunmurry - $7.50 per
person

_____ people / $ ________


May 23 - Friday
10 a.m. - 1 p.m. Rallye and Visit to
Tyrone Crystal - $7.50 per person

_____ people / $ ________

2 p.m. - 5 p.m. Technical Seminar -
$15.00 per person

_____ people / $ ________

5 p.m. - 6 p.m. DeLorean Products Fair
- $3.00 per person

_____ people / $ ________

Evening Entertainment at Waterfront
Concert Hall or Grand Opera House
(This will be an additional cost.
Details will be released at a later
date)


May 24 - Sunday
10 a.m. - 1 p.m. DMC Factory Visit -
Includes a drive around the test
trackin a DeLorean as a passenger or
bring your own car! - $15.00 per
person

_____ people / $ ________

Helicopter Flight over Factory Site
(weather permitting) - $30.00 per
person

_____ people / $ ________

2 p.m. - 5 p.m. Concourse Competition
and Motor Show

_____ people / $ ________

8 p.m. - 11 p.m. Eurofest Banquet -
$37.50 per person

_____ people / $ ________


May 25 - Sunday
10 a.m. - 3 p.m. Ulster Folk and
Transport Museum Visit - See the
Original Giugiaro Prototype! - $7.50
per person

_____ people / $ ________

When you add them up, the total
cost of all events is $123 per
person. Or you can purchase a
Special Gold Eurofest Pass for
$100 per person, which will
entitle you to attend all events.

I wish to order a Gold Eurofest Pass
for

_____ people / $ ________


Transportation from the hotel to all
events , including the raylle to Tyrone
Crystal is an additional $30.00 per
person

_____ people / $ ________



Vendors


If you would like to sell or exhibit
items at Eurofest, you will need to
reserve a table @ $15.00 each.

Company Name _______________

Items to be displayed or sold:

___________________________

No. of tables____ / $ ________



Eurofest Registration fee:

The registration fee must be added
for each person who is reserving an
event(s), a vendortable or a Gold
Eurofest Pass.
Members - $20.00 per person
Non Members - $30.00 per person

_____ Members / $ ________

_____ Non Members / $ ________

Total........................... $ ________ 

Please charge my: ___ Master Card
___ Visa / ___ / Discover ___ / ___ Amex 

Account# __________________________

Expires ________

Signature __________________________


If you are paying by check, please
make it payable to:
Delorean Owners Association
(Checks must be payable through U.S. bank.) 


Member Name ______________________

Member No. ________________________

Guest's Name _______________________

Address ___________________________

_________________________________

City/State/Zip_____________________

_________________________________

Day Phone _________________________

Night Phone _______________________


Are you bringing yor Delorean?___ Yes / ___ No 

Please print, complete and
return this form to:
Joan Truscott, Trueasurer
879 Randolph Road,
Santa Barbara, CA 93111 USA
Phone/Fax: (805) 964-5296

Accomodations at Forte Penthouse, Dunmurry, Belfast must be booked directly. Hotel 
deadline is April 22, 1997. 
For Reservations, call: Belfast 01232 612101 


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From: Knut S Grimsrud  Date: 
Fri, 28 Mar 97 07:45:00 PST
Subject: Battery ground connection

The battery ground connection attaches to the frame near the trailing arm connection 
on the passenger side. The grounding bolt (and the cable's terminal) do 
electro-corrode and this connection is somewhat exposed to the elements (as far as 
the effects of water on your electrical systems).

With your car raised and the passenger side splash shield removed, follow the long 
member attached to the wheel hub forward to where it is attached to the frame. This 
long member is the trailing arm and it attaches to the frame with the infamous 
trailing arm pivot bolt (while you're under there, conduct the trailing arm pivot 
bolt integrity check). You should be able to see the grounding cable come out through 
the fiberglass tub and its attach point on the frame. 

I had intermittent electrical problems that were completely eliminated by cleaning up 
the ground connection.



Knut Grimsrud
Chapter 41


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From: Marc Levy 
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 11:40:33 -0500
Subject: Re:Running a DMC w/o battery

I dont think that running a car, or any electrical device on a DC square wave will 
cause any permanent damage. The device may not operate = correctly, until it is 
getting a clean input supply. 

Disconnecting and reconnecting the battery may damage some equipment if the car is 
running. The regulator may spike the power line if the = battery is disconnected 
while it is running. 

With this in mind, I dont recommend doing either. Use proper tools and methods for 
testing electrical components especially on cars with = computer control systems, 
and other electronics. 

Marc



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From: "Thomas A. Ghesquiere"  Date: 
Fri, 28 Mar 1997 11:03:27 -0600
Subject: Owners List and Parts Data

I am one of the list readers who seldomly contributes but looks forward to each 
digest for information and laughs. Here's my two cents. Aside from publishing this 
digest, there are two valuable services that could be provided: (a)a list of owners 
with address, email, and phone numbers and (b) parts cross reference data. The 
owners list would allow us to go offline and establish the social contacts we desire. 
I just don't have the time or inclination to be a big "club" member, but I would 
like to know others close by who might be interested in a little shadetree work 
and/or a cold one once in a while. This is reinforced after reading about the 
Southern California Chapter melee. The list would also make it easy to meet other 
owners while traveling or to get help with repairs when in a bind away from home. 
The parts cross reference list would be invaluable to us independent types who try 
to be as self sufficient as possible. It will help keep me away from high priced 
gougers (unnamed) and allow me to maintain my DMC in an affordable manner.
Many thanks to James Espey and others who make this list, the back issues, and 
technical inputs available to us all. 

Tom Ghesquiere
Silver Bullit


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From: "Brandon S. Moody"  Date: Fri, 28 Mar 97 02:19:31 PST
Subject: Cruise Control ?

Has anyone ever installed cruise control on a DMC-12 ? I have often tryied to 
figure out why this wasn't standard equipment on the car anyway ?

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From: Phillip124@aol.com
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 22:05:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Click Click Click

I don't think that it's the battery because mine has a new battery and I hear
the same click, click, click everytime after an attempt start. I don't know
what it is, I figured that it was some kind of circuits or something because
I can hear it comming from the module/fuse box behind the passenger seat. 

Phillip
VIN 7134


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From: ian@inow.com (Ian)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 16:22:12 +0000
Subject: Re: DeLorean Oxymoron?

At 9:54 AM 3/26/97, Brandon S. Moody wrote: 
1111981 DeLorean GULLWING CONVERTIBLE, 6 CYL, SILVER, 15,500 ORIGINAL MILES - To be 
auctioned by Kruse International in Charlotte, NC, April 4 & 5, 1997. Lot No. 33 
Kruse International Auctions

>>A gullwing convertible? How can that be? I once saw a picture of a DeLorean 
convertible customization, but on that>>car the gullwing doors were long gone. 

>Your guess is as good as mine, but I saw an add not long ago in a local car trader 
that read:

>1984 Delorean Gullwing T-TOP. Very rare car, only 2 were made. etc......

>Hmmmmm ?

Have you seen Universal's Back to the Future ride? It's cars have gullwings and 
are 'topless' ala convertible. The accomplish this by cutting all of the roof 
(almost all) and front edges of the doors.

(side and front windows are removed as well) 

The roof hinge is pushed farther back and a electric motor attached. 

wala, you now have a gullwing convertible... or at least Universal has a bunch or 
plastic look-a-like convertible DeLoreans. -- at least I *hope* they are plastic 
fakes... I would cry if they were real.

Happy Easter!
- -Ian Haddock




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From: James Nichols  Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 01:09:42 +0000
Subject: Re: Cruise Control ?

Brandon S. Moody wrote:
 

My D cane with an aftermarket cruise control installed. It is the typical vacuum 
operated ignition coil actuated cruise control available anyplace. The vacuum 
control diaphram is mounted on the left side of the firewall in front of the engine 
and the long control cable makes a 180 deg turn to the right and back to parallel 
the throttle cable. It uses brake light disconnect and does not have a clutch 
disconnect, (manual trans) but I haven't found this to be a problem. The control 
is a separate turn-light type control mounted on the steering column. It has a 
rotary control with the index mark set to 55 mph although it will adjust to 70. 
I may have to find the control box and set it to 8 cyl if the raise the speed limit 
any more.

Jim #6884


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From: "Marvin S. Sterling"  Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 02:51:11 -0800
Subject: Re: gas vapor leak?

GullWinged@aol.com wrote:

>>On and off since I've had my car, the cockpit smells of gas vapors. Not a trace 
of gas anywhere under the car. The only evidence I have was once I removed the 
underside baffle wall that protects the gas tank. There was a spongy material on 
it that was soaked in gas, yet no evidence of where it came from. Does anyone have 
any ideas 

>Mike:

>I have had the vapor smell before in my DeLorean, but only after filling it up 
with gas, and generally only if I fill it ALL the way to full. I assume that the 
fill tube is not generally designed to have gas sitting in it and therefore lets 
the smell escape and it enters the car. Solution: I just don't fill the tank up 
quite so full. 

>Perhaps you have a hole somewhere in this tube? 

>Chase Clark
- ------------------------------------------ Chase,
The owner's manual says to fill it until the hose clicks off . . . do not top off 
the tank ... ever ... the smell will knock you out. Marv Sterling

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From: ABatt10347@aol.com
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 08:54:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: Shop List

About a week ago I sugested that readers of the newsletter send me a list of
shops that you had used or would trust with your DMC's. I am still planning
on compiling all of these into a large list to be published in the newsletter. 
The idea of this list came about after reading the responces of
people who were afraid to travel cross country in their DMC's. If traveling
in a strange part of the country and having a problem it would be good to know who 
to call instead of picking up the yellow pages and hoping to get lucky. I have 
recieved a few responces to start the list, I again ask for a
quick email to ABatt10347 @aol.com ,please include the name of the shop, location, 
and phone #, also if you know the name of the owner I will include
it too. I will compile the list by state and will send it to the newsletter
by the end of April. Please take the time to add the shops to this list where
you have had a good experience with your DMC. Remember this list will be used
by fellow DMCers when traveling, just think how you would feel with your DMC
on the side of the road not running and not knowing who in that area to call
to get help. This list can solve this problem!!! Thank you for your time and
responces. I will email each responce back to let you know I got you mail. 
Bruce Battles

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From: GullWinged@aol.com
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 01:56:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Click Click Click

>The ever wise Marc Levy wrote:
>I dont think that running a car, or any electrical device on a DC square  wave 
will cause any permanent damage. The device may not operate = correctly, until 
it is getting a clean input supply. 

If that device is controlling the engine, THEN it could cause damage to the 
engine. I am sure that if I had kept my DeLorean running long enough without a 
properly grounded battery that it would have majorly screwed up the delicate PRV 
engine.

Chase



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From: raddad@cmn.net
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 18:24:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: DeLorean Oxymoron?

>At 9:54 AM 3/26/97, Brandon S. Moody wrote: 
11111981 DeLorean GULLWING CONVERTIBLE, 6 CYL, SILVER, 15,500 ORIGINAL MILES - 
To be auctioned by Kruse International in Charlotte, NC, April 4 & 5, 1997. Lot 
No. 33 Kruse International Auctions

It seems to me that this will be easy to resolve. Surely we must have a dmcnews 
subscriber near Charlotte who would be glad to spend a couple of hours and, 
typically, under $10, to do the car preview and see just what the heck this thing 
is! Any takers??? I WOULD, BUT COLORADO IS TOO FAR AWAY.

Dick Ryan




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From: James Nichols  Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 00:46:58 +0000
Subject: Re: Click Click Click

Phillip wrote:
 

What is your battery voltage? Your voltmeter on the dash will show correct battey 
voltage when you are not cranking the engine. 

Relays chatter when there is insufficient voltage to hold them closed. When they 
do close they draw current from the battery and drop voltage to the point that the 
relay opens allowing the voltage to build up again and the process repeats, thus 
the chatter. 

If your car has not been started or driven for two months, chances are that the 
battery is simply dead.
1. What is your battery voltage? It should be about 12 volts with no load.
2. What is your battery voltage when you try to crank the engine? This will require 
a separate voltmeter conneected to the battery terminals and should not be less 
than 10 volts. If is less than 10 volts, the battery needs charging. If it is greater 
than 11 volts when you here the relays chatter, you have a bad connection, usually 
the positive terminal is corroded at the battery or the ground strap at that connects 
the negative battery terminal to the frame is corroded at the frame. 

Jim #6884


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From: GullWinged@aol.com
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 01:56:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Click Click Click

>I hear the same click, click, click everytime after an attempt start 

This is normal Phillip. I once traced the noise and IF I still recall correctly, 
it comes from the fuel pump relay, which is situated toward the back of the 
electrical compartment.

Chase



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From: raddad@cmn.net
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 20:12:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Shop List

The DOA produced such a list a few years ago. I understand that a new version is 
in the works.

Two years ago I took an extended trip in my DMC. While on that trip I developed a 
problem with the ignition switch. The car would continue to run for 10 minutes 
after I had shut off the ignition and even turned off the battery cut-off switch. 
I reached into the glove compartment and pulled out the "shop list". I tried two 
different places in two different midwestern towns. In both instances I was the 
second DMC they had ever seen! Seems that in one case they had lubed and changed 
oil once and in the other case someone had plugs replaced. 

In each case the shop obviously treated these people well for they, in turn, 
recommended inclusion in the "shop list". I guess what I am leading up to is that 
it would be nice if we had some idea as to what kind of work these shops have 
performed.

Having said that, Haglin Automotive in Boulder CO works on DeLoreans regularly. 
I have had some work done there and I felt that I was treated fairly and that 
the shop did possess knowledge of the DMC. 




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From: James Espey 
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 97 20:37:06 -0000
Subject: Re: shop list

I have had some service work done at Mesa Auto Works here in Mesa, Az (near 
Phoenix). They have a set of shop manuals and have worked on several DeLoreans in 
the central AZ area. Shortly after I purchased my car, they replaced the clutch 
slave and master cylinders and installed my braided steel clutch line with parts 
that I provided. Most recently they replaced my shocks.

Mike Bacon is the contact at Mesa Auto Works, (602) 969-1954. 

James


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From: GullWinged@aol.com
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 22:43:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: '81 DMC For Sale (Not Mine)

For anyone who might be interested in buying a DeLorean, I found the following ad 
on America Online earlier on Saturday night. I don't know anything else than what 
is in the ad. - Chase 

Reply to Screen Name: Chicane325@aol.com Location: FL

'81 Delorean:7300mi/all original

This car is all original and unrestored; right down to the original tires.You 
won't find a more complete collectible.In storage for 10 years, started 
occasionally. Runs great.



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From: "Michael Babb"  Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 10:48:57 +0100
Subject: Re: DeLorean Oxymoron?

That's a good idea..... I live about 4 hours away from charlotte and Will try to 
get down there for the auction. Does anyone have a scanner? If I can get some 
pictures of the car, I am sure that others would be interested
in seeing it!

By the way I am now the proud owner of #3472, and I must say that a DeLorean is the 
coolest car I have ever driven! 

- ----------
>From: raddad@cmn.net
>To: dmcnews@world.std.com
>Subject: Re: DeLorean Oxymoron?
>Date: Saturday, March 29, 1997 2:24 AM

>>At 9:54 AM 3/26/97, Brandon S. Moody wrote: 
111111981 DeLorean GULLWING CONVERTIBLE, 6 CYL, SILVER, 15,500 ORIGINAL MILES - 
To be auctioned by Kruse International in Charlotte, NC, April 4 & 5, 1997. Lot 
No. 33 Kruse International Auctions

>It seems to me that this will be easy to resolve. Surely we must have a dmcnews 
subscriber near Charlotte who would be glad to spend a couple of hours and, 
typically, under $10, to do the car preview and see just what the heck this 
thing is! Any takers??? I WOULD, BUT COLORADO IS TOO FAR AWAY.

>Dick Ryan





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From: ausmith@pdx.oneworld.com
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 07:20:54 +0000
Subject: Shop list

In an emergency any long established Volvo dealer should be able to help with 
engine related problems.

Chris


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From: Duke 
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 10:08:47 -0600
Subject: Battery Charging

I've heard that jumping off a DeLorean is bad for the auto trans = computer 
governor. This weekend I had to recharge my battery and was = wondering is this 
also a bad idea???? If so, should I recharge it from = the engine compartment or 
from the battery itself??? Thanks in = advance!!!

Duke Bladorn

P.S. If anyone wants to display their pictures on my web site or if you = would 
like to add a DeLorean link just send me an email!!!! 

www.geocities.com/motorcity/8952/delorean.html 




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From: steve brodsky  Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 12:48:36 -0800
Subject: Re: gas vapor leak?

Marvin S. Sterling wrote:

>GullWinged@aol.com wrote:

>>>On and off since I've had my car, the cockpit smells of gas vapors. Not a 
trace of gas anywhere under the car. The only evidence I have was once I removed 
the underside baffle wall that protects the gas tank. There was a spongy material 
on it that was soaked in gas, yet no evidence of where it came from. Does anyone 
have any ideas 

>>Mike:

>>I have had the vapor smell before in my DeLorean, but only after filling it up 
with gas, and generally only if I fill it ALL the way to full. I assume that the 
fill tube is not generally designed to have gas sitting in it and therefore lets 
the smell escape and it enters the car. Solution: I just don't fill the tank up 
quite so full. 

>>Perhaps you have a hole somewhere in this tube? 

>>Chase Clark
>------------------------------------------ Chase,
>The owner's manual says to fill it until the hose clicks off . . . do not top off 
the tank ... ever ... the smell will knock you out. 
Marv Sterling
remove the access panel in the "firewall" so that you access to the filler tube 
connecting hose. you might find that the hose clamp on the hose going to the gas 
tank has loosened causing gas to slosh out of the tank.

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From: GullWinged@aol.com
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 14:44:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: FS: DeLoreans & DMC Ball Caps

Hello once again! I am just posting a couple of other interesting DeLorean items 
that I found for sale yesterday while 'surfing.' Please bear in mind, that I know 
nothing about either posting outside of what is said in the ads themselves.

Happy Easter All!

Chase Clark


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- -
Date: Mon Dec 16 1996
From: J. B. Scott

To all Delorean lovers!!! I have available to you a high quality baseball cap, that 
features grey wool cap/black bill and black "embroidered" DMC logo on front! This 
is a must for any Delorean enthusiest! Send your checks or Money Orders in the 
amount of $12.95 +
$2.00 S/H to: J.B. Scott, 5123 A Green Hills Ave. NE Tacoma, WA 98422.

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- -

Date: Sun Dec 2903:04:11 1996
From: C.B.LANDI

Year: 1981
Color: Stainless
Type: Manual
Location of Car:WINDSOR CT.
Asking Price: $105,000.

Sell 4 Deloreans and 2 Bricklins,and extensive supply of delorean and Bricklin 
parts,WILL NOT PART,SELL COMPLETE PACKAGE DEAL ONLY.One car is
a preproduction prototype.This is a firm price no dreamers or bottom hunters.All 
low mile cars.(860)527-5855

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- -



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From: AARON1@webtv.net (AARON MILLS)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 16:15:22 -0500
Subject: Re: owners in Michigan??

I would like to known if there are any owners in south west michigan. I have 
owned my delorean for 2 years, and have only seen 1 other D pass through kalamazoo.

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